At the very least we know Bonney has a sad flashback coming and a mentor figure who’s pretty much dead
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@Shiebs said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
At the very least we know Bonney has a sad flashback coming and a mentor figure who’s pretty much dead
See, I don't think it's as so simple like that, since Zoro's teacher didn't die, Sanji's teacher Zeff didn't die, and Brook didn't really treat someone like Yorkie as a mentor.
I think it's more like a Straw Hat has to have a family surrogate who shares or at least encourages the Straw Hat to pursue an interest that gives them enough purpose to go to sea, not just for themselves, but also as if paying tribute to their family, which is pretty noble.
It's why I felt Yamato wasn't ready to be a Straw Hat by the end of Wano, because Oden wasn't really her family surrogate that we saw spend time with each other, and that Ushimaru and Ace didn't really share noble interests with her. But that Momo would fill in that void since they both seem heavily invested in Oden's unfinished mission.
Bonney, however, might end up sharing Kuma's interest in trying to overthrow the Celestial Dragons, to the point of joining a group that would better help her accomplish that noble goal.
I could just see Kuma teleporting back to Egghead after doing what he needs to do at the Red Line, not knowing Bonney is there until he's right in front of her, dies in front of her, but only after telling her in his dying words that he's sorry he couldn't overthrow the Celestial Dragons before his death. And that this would impact Bonney to the point of carrying up Kuma's will to help overthrow the Celestial Dragons in his place.
Bonney sharing Kuma's interest of overthrowing the Celestial Dragons to the point of wanting to carry that out is def a lot more noble than sailing out to sea just to party and drink. Of course, this could easily happen with Bonney alongside Dragon, but it would be interesting if Bonney chose to do this with Luffy instead.
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Bonney would need something deeper than "Defeating the Celestial Dragons" to join the SHs. If that is her only goal then she can join the Revolutionaries like her father did.
I'm still waiting to see what Oda does with Bonney, but right now I'm not convinced.
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@Zin-Magala said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
Bonney would need something deeper than "Defeating the Celestial Dragons" to join the SHs. If that is her only goal then she can join the Revolutionaries like her father did.
I'm still waiting to see what Oda does with Bonney, but right now I'm not convinced.
Yeah, though again, it’s admittedly a lot more noble than sailing just for the sake of partying and drinking at sea. Not that that’s inherently a bad motivation to sail out to begin with, but after noble motivations like delivering a final song of a dead crew to an old friend and wishing to strengthen the relationship between fish-men and humans, I think it’s safe to say that “partying and drinking just for the sake of it” would be comparatively pretty crap writing from Oda.
And there’s Vegapunk’s noble dream, apparently shared with Clover, of giving the whole world free energy, but he might be too dissatisfied with Straw Hat’s funds to go with them on this.
And of course there’s Vivi, who may seem set-up to somehow fulfill her legacy with the Will of D. which her Void Century ancestor Lily had and was encouraged by Cobra to fly the flag of Dawn against the world. So perhaps Vivi’s noble dream would be to fulfill the Dawn against the forces of Im and attempt to better understand it by going to Laugh Tale with Luffy.
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I've already said everything I wanted to say about Vivi. I don't expect Vivi to go to Laughtale. Her priority is the people and she will always choose them over traveling with Luffy. Vivi will want to be involved in rebuilding the WG. As for Vegapunk, I'm not even sure if he is going to make it out of Egghead alive at this point. Best case scenario Kuma sends him to the Revolutionaries along with his daughter. On the subject of Bonney, I have no idea what her motivations would be outside of getting back at the WG. Maybe there is something more personal there but Oda needs to show us.
Right now my eyes are on Caribou, York, and Garp.
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York joining the Blackbeard pirates will support the idea of the SHs getting one more crew member.
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Caribou will lead to Wano 2.
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Garp being captured (plan, no plan) would give other candidates a destination to meet up with Luffy. Sphinx could also do that if something terrible happens on Hachinosu.
That's assuming no one joins in this arc, which I don't think will happen. I think Oda is setting up the SHs to take a series of Ls and if someone is going to join, then they will join when it's time for the SHs to make that come back. I'm leaning towards Elbaf being the bounce back arc so going into this, we'll already know if there is one more or not.
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@Zin-Magala said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
I think Oda is setting up the SHs to take a series of Ls and if someone is going to join, then they will join when it's time for the SHs to make that come back. I'm leaning towards Elbaf being the bounce back arc so going into this, we'll already know if there is one more or not.
Interesting idea. After what Oda did with Law and Kid, I suppose it would make sense to show at least one more time that everything isn’t going to be easy from here on forward even though Luffy has Gear 5th. Would push the idea of Straw Hats having to gain someone pretty strong even more.
I’m pretty certain one more is set to join, after what Oda said about “Luffy’s crew of 10” in 2022 and I see no reason to accuse him as wrong on that, as well as considering Luffy’s dream and promise. If someone will prove me wrong about Luffy gaining a 10th person, then Oda will be the one to do it.
And yeah, Vivi I’m pretty sure after reuniting with Straw Hats would leave back to her kingdom once her situation has been properly addressed.
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Things to consider:
- For a long time, characters have not needed to join the crew in order to travel with it, have major storylines around them or appear in multiple arcs. Vivi was the prime example, but in the last 10 years we also got Law, Rebecca/Kyros, Carrot, Momonosuke, Kin'emon and Yamato.
- Oda loves throwing a curveball. So, maybe we are looking at the wrong angle? After repeating a formula at least partially for 8 out of 9 crewmembers (Robin being the one exception), we may again be surprised by a character that Oda is purposefully not calling attention to. If so, most of its story will only become relevant after the character joins.
- Given how long Oda waits to explore certain storylines, I feel whoever is meant to join is not only a character planned for a long time, but created with the intention of being a crewmate all along. As such, I'm suspicious against characters that we know have not been planned long before their debuts. For instance, no matter how much Law got important or popular, he was created one week before his debut. He may have inherited traits from other planned characters, but this makes him unlikely to be the future crewmate.
- Something I feel about the last crewmate is that, rather than the story stressing how important the character is for the last saga, it may instead focus on how much the crew needs that character's skills to complete its dynamic and sail the seas ahead.
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@Deicide said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
Things to consider:
- Oda loves throwing a curveball. So, maybe we are looking at the wrong angle? After repeating a formula at least partially for 8 out of 9 crewmembers (Robin being the one exception), we may again be surprised by a character that Oda is purposefully not calling attention to. If so, most of its story will only become relevant after the character joins.
- Something I feel about the last crewmate is that, rather than the story stressing how important the character is for the last saga, it may instead focus on how much the crew needs that character's skills to complete its dynamic and sail the seas ahead.
Also interesting. Oda did do things like have Robin basically be a relatively minor lackey to the main villain of Alabasta, and just when it looks like a princess who had been with the crew for multiple arcs is set to leave her kingdom for the pirate life, she ultimately decides it's her kingdom that she wants to care for first and foremost. And it's then the villain's lackey takes the opportunity to go from minor to major be appearing on the leading main characters' mode of transport despite not having spent much time with each other beforehand. In retrospect, Oda prob did that so that to have Robin bond with the crew on a meaningful level during Skypiea and use her skills as an archeologist to emphasize on how important that poneglyph was, and came full circle when we saw Oden read it.
So in light of that, in regards to skills, what would you say would be the most needed skillset that would be most welcome to the crew at this point? Like would there be something about Egghead for example so far that you feel would justify having an 11th Straw Hat for their skills? If so, then what do you think it would be?
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@electricmastro said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
So in light of that, in regards to skills, what would you say would be the most needed skillset that would be most welcome to the crew at this point? Like would there be something about Egghead for example so far that you feel would justify having an 11th Straw Hat for their skills? If so, then what do you think it would be?
It's kinda hard to pinpoint. If the idea of this needed skills does come true, it will be something that has been at most hinted very subtly, never blatantly told.
Maybe it's a need that will become more obvious now that the crew already seems "full". Like, we can only see it's lacking now that every other role has been filled.
I have a theory for my candidate but it's kinda reverse-engineered (I had the candidate first, so I tried to imagine what role she would fulfill and could make sense). In that case, I came up with Quartermaster (or, in OP translations, Staff Officer/Chief of Staff), which has been used in the story since Orange Town, when Cabaji was presented as Buggy's Staff Officer. Sabo also feels this role as Dragon's Chief of Staff. My idea for the crewmate is essentially "able to coordinate efforts so the crew operates at maximum efficiency". But, again, it's just a theory and everyone is free to speculate on their own ideas.
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I just want a logia to join, it’s going to bug the shit out of me if we have two out of three devil fruit types but never have that third type, I don’t know why, my brain is weird
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@Deicide said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
@electricmastro said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
So in light of that, in regards to skills, what would you say would be the most needed skillset that would be most welcome to the crew at this point? Like would there be something about Egghead for example so far that you feel would justify having an 11th Straw Hat for their skills? If so, then what do you think it would be?
It's kinda hard to pinpoint. If the idea of this needed skills does come true, it will be something that has been at most hinted very subtly, never blatantly told.
Maybe it's a need that will become more obvious now that the crew already seems "full". Like, we can only see it's lacking now that every other role has been filled.
I have a theory for my candidate but it's kinda reverse-engineered (I had the candidate first, so I tried to imagine what role she would fulfill and could make sense). In that case, I came up with Quartermaster (or, in OP translations, Staff Officer/Chief of Staff), which has been used in the story since Orange Town, when Cabaji was presented as Buggy's Staff Officer. Sabo also feels this role as Dragon's Chief of Staff. My idea for the crewmate is essentially "able to coordinate efforts so the crew operates at maximum efficiency". But, again, it's just a theory and everyone is free to speculate on their own ideas.
My own gut reaction is to say a guard/rearguard sort of role. Buchi and Sham were ship guards for example. The role hasn't really been emphasized on since, but they still could serve as an example of a theoretical Straw Hat taking up such a role and still getting to fight and have adventures when the plot demands it. Some might say Zoro takes on this role, but it seems about as official as making Franky a helmsman, before Jinbe officially took on the role, so it might be just as fitting it someone did officially take it up.
There's also the aspect of a Straw Hats needing to be "escorted" (like Luffy needing to save energy before getting to the roof) and situations where a Straw Hat needs to safeguard someone else (like Chopper and Jinbe safeguarding Atlas and Bonney) or needing to be safeguarded themselves (like Nami and Usopp against Ulti and Page One).
I suppose that comes off as a "glorified back-up" sort of role, but if Oda is going to constantly write someone in to have either a Straw Hat save someone or needing to be saved, then he might as well have a dedicated role for that, in my opinion.
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Maybe I'm being cynical, but I don't expect to see a new position on the crew that we haven't heard of in nearly 1100 chapters. :/
I think the overall best answer is that Bonney joins in her child-form as a cabin boy (and gets a much-needed fighting style overhaul, btw).
And if that doesn't happen, my next best guess is that Vivi just tags along.
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@Shin10-Bukuro said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
Maybe I'm being cynical, but I don't expect to see a new position on the crew that we haven't heard of in nearly 1100 chapters. :/
I think the overall best answer is that Bonney joins in her child-form as a cabin boy (and gets a much-needed fighting style overhaul, btw).
And if that doesn't happen, my next best guess is that Vivi just tags along.
Well again, Oda acknowledged the idea of ship guard long ago, since those are the roles he gave Buchi and Sham. Many chapters ago, sure, though still have precedent.
And it's a role pseudo-acknowledged with what Zoro said about guarding the ship. The fact that Luffy is now an Emperor and the Sunny is on Franky's wanted poster means that they can't just casually leave the Sunny around anymore, so they'd def have to do more to make sure it stays safe.
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@Shin10-Bukuro said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
I think the overall best answer is that Bonney joins in her child-form as a cabin boy (and gets a much-needed fighting style overhaul, btw).
A bit weird for a former Pirate Captain with a 320 million bounty to be "cabin boy" just because she can manipulate her own age to appear younger.
@Shin10-Bukuro said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
Maybe I'm being cynical, but I don't expect to see a new position on the crew that we haven't heard of in nearly 1100 chapters.
That's why I've been sighting on Staff Officer/Chief of Staff, since those interchangeable titles not only are based on a real pirate role (quartermaster), but have been around since Chapter 15.
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@Shiebs enter Karasu
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Vivi's role on he ship is Parleyor considering her skills in Diplomacy
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I'm sticking with Zoro moving to Vice Captain (more than likely not his choice) and freeing up the combatant spot. Not the most exciting but we are heading towards the end, I don't see Oda introducing any new roles. He has already blended roles together for certain crew members and the rest is shared amongst the crew to avoid constantly separating characters from the group.
Combatant is kind of vague so that doesn't really narrow the field too much. If Devon is confirmed to be a combatant, then it narrows the field considerably.
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@Zin-Magala said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
I'm sticking with Zoro moving to Vice Captain (more than likely not his choice) and freeing up the combatant spot. Not the most exciting but we are heading towards the end, I don't see Oda introducing any new roles. He has already blended roles together for certain crew members and the rest is shared amongst the crew to avoid constantly separating characters from the group.
Combatant is kind of vague so that doesn't really narrow the field too much. If Devon is confirmed to be a combatant, then it narrows the field considerably.
It’s fine. The series isn’t ending anytime soon like Oda was saying. Considering the wealth of ideas he tends to end up using, I gladly believe him on that. So it’s not as if the series will end in less than 50 chapters or anything like that.
At this point, I don’t think they’ll really feel like they’re “near the end” until they’re all actually on Laugh Tale. lol
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It's not a matter of "how many chapters we have left," it's a matter of believability. We're in the final saga and the SHs are a pirate emperor crew, It's hard to imagine there is a new role that will be needed for them to reach the end. Granted Oda usually introduces that necessity ahead of time but if the SHs need anything right now it would be more power. Maybe there is something related to that we haven't thought of yet.
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@Zin-Magala said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
It's not a matter of "how many chapters we have left," it's a matter of believability. We're in the final saga and the SHs are a pirate emperor crew, It's hard to imagine there is a new role that will be needed for them to reach the end. Granted Oda usually introduces that necessity ahead of time but if the SHs need anything right now it would be more power. Maybe there is something related to that we haven't thought of yet.
Like I mentioned earlier, it's possible the necessity for some sort of guard character has increased in need. Seeing as how Emperor Luffy's ship is now known worldwide, it's pretty much impossible for the Straw Hats to casually just leave it around unlike the old days.
People might think Straw Hats don't really need an official guard, like for the ship, but it makes sense to me given what Oda did with Franky's wanted poster and what he had Zoro say too.
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I’ve already talked about the reasons why Oda will never add a Lookout or Ship Guard to the crew a while back. It doesn’t make any sense to add a character that is constantly separated from the crew and if you’re not guarding the ship you’re not a very good ship guard.
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@Zin-Magala said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
I’ve already talked about the reasons why Oda will never add a Lookout or Ship Guard to the crew a while back. It doesn’t make any sense to add a character that is constantly separated from the crew and if you’re not guarding the ship you’re not a very good ship guard.
Interesting. If Oda were to go for a ship guard role in spite of protests, then how would you feel would be the best way to go about it, hypothetically speaking?
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@Zin-Magala said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
I'm sticking with Zoro moving to Vice Captain (more than likely not his choice) and freeing up the combatant spot. Not the most exciting but we are heading towards the end, I don't see Oda introducing any new roles. He has already blended roles together for certain crew members and the rest is shared amongst the crew to avoid constantly separating characters from the group.
Combatant is kind of vague so that doesn't really narrow the field too much. If Devon is confirmed to be a combatant, then it narrows the field considerably.
If Oda hasn't made Zoro Vice Captain so far, it's not in the final stretch that he's going to change that.
Seriously how would that be? Luffy would suddenly arrive and say "So now that we are a Yonko crew we need to have a more defined hierarchy so Zoro is now officially the Vice Captain and our new member is the combatant after all we all know there can only be one." I can't think of a scenario where this would make sense since Luffy never cared about these hierarchies.
The reason the crew never had a Vice Captain is that it doesn't make sense to hierarchize them like that. Having someone in the pack be "most important" after Luffy doesn't seem right with their dynamic.
And after Oda made Helmsman a "very important" role even though they never needed it until then I found it a waste of time guessing what roles new Nakamas will have LOL -
If there's gonna be a ship guard it should be the guy who did it for two years non stop and also has a power to deflect giant attacks like nothing.... and also has a 2.9 devil fruit
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@Shiebs said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
If there's gonna be a ship guard it should be the guy who did it for two years non stop and also has a power to deflect giant attacks like nothing.... and also has a 2.9 devil fruit
Come to think of it, it has been rather due to luck that the Sunny has survived to this point:
Kuma happened to be there to guard the Sunny during the timeskip.
No one was really there to steal the Sunny away from Fish-Man Island.
Punk Hazard was too abandoned.
Law happened to be there when the Sunny was being attacked at Dressrosa.
No one would have been interested to steal the Sunny at Zou.
Jinbe managed to barely escape the Big Mom Pirates with the Sunny using his helmsman skills.
And the Sunny got lucky that the explosives weren't strong enough to damage it at Wano.
I get the feeling the luck may have run out by now though.
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@Hades said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
And after Oda made Helmsman a "very important" role even though they never needed it until then I found it a waste of time guessing what roles new Nakamas will have LOL
Straw Hats had always taken turns steering the Sunny, but it very much helps to have a dedicated person for that.
Like, imagine if Chopper happened to be alone on the Sunny tending to an injured person and needed someone to steer the ship away from danger while he was tending to injuries?
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@electricmastro and again if that’s a thing Oda wants to do Kuma would be a perfect fit for the job
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I have no idea how Oda could make Ship Guard work. It's a preemptive role so if the character isn't already guarding the ship, then they are not a ship guard. If someone attacks the ship and the character wasn't there, then they have already failed at their job. If other characters are protecting the ship, you might as well keep the status quo and continue to share the role amongst the crew. It doesn't make sense to lock one character to the ship while everyone else is exploring and having adventures.
LOL I don't expect Luffy to give Zoro the role. It would be something that the Marines/WG label him. Oda has a running gag with bounty posters so I can see Zoro being labeled as such and turning it into a big joke amongst the crew. I'm not confidant that will happen as I'm really have no idea what a final role would be at this point. If we are getting one more crew member, I don't think the role will be very important. Oda could say swordsman and combatant are two different things and that would be the end of it.
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@Zin-Magala said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
I have no idea how Oda could make Ship Guard work. It's a preemptive role so if the character isn't already guarding the ship, then they are not a ship guard. If someone attacks the ship and the character wasn't there, then they have already failed at their job. If other characters are protecting the ship, you might as well keep the status quo and continue to share the role amongst the crew. It doesn't make sense to lock one character to the ship while everyone else is exploring and having adventures.
I personally think it does make sense to have that extra back-up always helps.
And I wasn't necessarily saying 24/7 during every adventure. I was more so thinking during emergency scenarios.
I suppose a better way to put it would be a "rearguard" role. Someone ready to give back-up defense to someone or something else at a moment's notice.
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@Shiebs said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
@electricmastro and again if that’s a thing Oda wants to do Kuma would be a perfect fit for the job
Yeah, and it doesn't just have to be sitting in one place all day either. Someone like Yamato was constantly on point in protecting something or backing someone up, even being quick to the point of protecting some bombs to keep them from exploding prematurely.
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THAT makes more sense to me. Someone who supports the weaker crew members or if there is a specific task that needs to be done, that character is the go-to. It falls in line with "the need for more power."
I'm curious if/when Oda will label the rest of Blackbeard's crew to help us out. lol
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@electricmastro said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
Well again, Oda acknowledged the idea of ship guard long ago, since those are the roles he gave Buchi and Sham. Many chapters ago, sure, though still have precedent.
And it's a role pseudo-acknowledged with what Zoro said about guarding the ship. The fact that Luffy is now an Emperor and the Sunny is on Franky's wanted poster means that they can't just casually leave the Sunny around anymore, so they'd def have to do more to make sure it stays safe.
I'm willing to agree that a ship guard role is a decent idea. Perhaps it ends up getting implemented, even if only unofficially.
I just tend to believe in the apprentice role so much because of how many times we've seen it occur by this point.
@Deicide said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
A bit weird for a former Pirate Captain with a 320 million bounty to be "cabin boy" just because she can manipulate her own age to appear younger.
I apologize for being unclear, but I think Bonney's true form is that of a child. When engulfed in sea water, she had the appearance of a kid.
And there's plenty about Bonney we don't know...I think Oda could make it work.
To be honest, the main reason I focus on Bonney is because of how long Kuma has been a mysterious part of the plot. If we look to how Jinbe joined over such a long period, I think Bonney fits with that pattern.
That's why I've been sighting on Staff Officer/Chief of Staff, since those interchangeable titles not only are based on a real pirate role (quartermaster), but have been around since Chapter 15.
That's fair, but Oda hasn't highlighted that role for the length of the series. I appreciate that you dug and found something unused, but I think you're too focused on the role in question being "serious" and "useful," whereas I think Oda might want to be a bit silly.
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@Zin-Magala said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
THAT makes more sense to me. Someone who supports the weaker crew members or if there is a specific task that needs to be done, that character is the go-to. It falls in line with "the need for more power."
I'm curious if/when Oda will label the rest of Blackbeard's crew to help us out. lol
Yeah, like with that Yamato did for Franky here for example. What would that be called, or what role could that fall into?
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Let’s entertain the idea of Kuma as ship guard, if that did happen would he have his normal body, or would they find some way to put his memories/consciousness into a new body?
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@Shiebs said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
Let’s entertain the idea of Kuma as ship guard, if that did happen would he have his normal body, or would they find some way to put his memories/consciousness into a new body?
If need be, then I'd prefer he'd be his normal self, going along with the Straw Hats and maybe teleport back to the ship at moments notice.
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@Shin10-Bukuro said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
I'm willing to agree that a ship guard role is a decent idea. Perhaps it ends up getting implemented, even if only unofficially.
I just tend to believe in the apprentice role so much because of how many times we've seen it occur by this point.
It doesn't seem as if Luffy would be ready to take someone under his wing like that. He's barely grown out of his kid phase and is still learning many things himself.
In other words, it would be too early for Luffy to take on a disciple like that.
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I feel like the ship has sailed on Apprentice. I thought Carrot or Yamato would have filled that role easily with their lack of experience. Now I think Tama will get it post story when she is ready to join the crew.
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@Zin-Magala said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
I feel like the ship has sailed on Apprentice. I thought Carrot or Yamato would have filled that role easily with their lack of experience. Now I think Tama will get it post story when she is ready to join the crew.
Tama didn't even seem like she'd be set-up to have a nobler purpose than being free to party at sea. So yeah, I'm not really thinking she'll be Luffy's 10th person anytime soon either. lol
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So at this point, it looks like Vivi is being set-up with the most compelling motivation to join and sail.
Other people like Tama seemed mainly motivated simply to just sail and have fun.
But Vivi joining and sailing with the motivation to understand and fulfill her legacy with the Will of D. seems much more compelling by comparison.
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Ship's Apprentice seems like a role of someone being prepared for the next generation. For example, like how Shanks was an Apprentice in Roger's Ship, but that never felt "complete" for him, like that was never "his moment". That's why he never went to Laugh Tale, and stayed back with Buggy, because he wanted to return on his own terms, with his own crew. So I don't see the Strawhats having an Apprentice anytime soon, because all of them are having their moment now, and throwing everything on the line for this particular journey. I don't see a character being prepared for a future moment, but all of them living the greatest adventure of their lives in the present.
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Tama will probably be the apprentice, after she joins in the epilogue.
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@Chams-0 said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
Ship's Apprentice seems like a role of someone being prepared for the next generation. For example, like how Shanks was an Apprentice in Roger's Ship, but that never felt "complete" for him, like that was never "his moment". That's why he never went to Laugh Tale, and stayed back with Buggy, because he wanted to return on his own terms, with his own crew. So I don't see the Strawhats having an Apprentice anytime soon, because all of them are having their moment now, and throwing everything on the line for this particular journey. I don't see a character being prepared for a future moment, but all of them living the greatest adventure of their lives in the present.
Roger was a pirate for like 30 years, while Luffy only started being a pirate 2 years ago. If Luffy is going to take on an appreciate, then I'd think it would be much more to his and the apprentice's benefit if Luffy had several more years of experience under his belt, since he's still learning various things even now.
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My candidate hasn't changed. With Egghead halted since March, I'm in the same position I was way back in February.
I think Ch 1059 set things nicely for her, and with every single big name making a move nowadays, I think she will make hers as well.
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@Deicide said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
My candidate hasn't changed. With Egghead halted since March, I'm in the same position I was way back in February.
I think Ch 1059 set things nicely for her, and with every single big name making a move nowadays, I think she will make hers as well.
I'm still not sure about Hancock joining. I don't get the sense that she'd have a greater purpose with sailing with Luffy. And at this point she only seems like she'd only whole-heartedly listen to Luffy, but no other crewmates, seeing them as "below" her too. Someone who doesn't have good chemistry with the crew and may argue with them even in the most crucial of moments probably isn't fit to be on the crew.
I don't say this as a vendetta against Hancock, but as emphasis to reinforce the idea that the Straw Hats should be a fully-functioning crew always able to work together despite their difference in views and opinion. Anyone who'd constantly oppose others on the crew and argue isn't going to help the crew be safer, since they're not playing pirates, but constantly risking their lives in this reality.
So in the event Hancock joins the Straw Hats, I think it would be reasonable and make sense to expect that she'd be cooperative and respect her fellow crewmates enough to be able to work together to survive, rather than risk having the crew fall apart due to not being in-sync.
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@electricmastro She hasn't had any chance to interact with them so far. If it happens, whatever conflicts there may be at first (and I don't think there will be many), things would eventually work out.
For now, I'll be happy just to see her appearing again. So far, she had a single chapter in 12 years. But I'm sure she was always meant to have a role in this final saga.
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@Deicide said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
@electricmastro She hasn't had any chance to interact with them so far. If it happens, whatever conflicts there may be at first (and I don't think there will be many), things would eventually work out.
For now, I'll be happy just to see her appearing again. So far, she had a single chapter in 12 years. But I'm sure she was always meant to have a role in this final saga.
Fair enough then, I'm just thinking back to how she had treated people other than Luffy, like Rayleigh and Jinbe, and how there's no room for conflict of interest at this point. I understand that a big reason she behaves the way she does is not to appear vulnerable and weak, after what happened in her past, so I suppose I'd also hope Hancock would feel strong alongside them and change how she acts enough to respect and acknowledge that they'd be trying to survive at sea, with people trying to attack Luffy for the famous Emperor he's now known to be.
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@electricmastro I think it's fun to have a strong personality like hers trying to find harmony with other personalities. Robin, Franky and Brook weren't immediately accepted in the crew (or even by the readers), and each had to work to be accepted as "nakama".
So, whoever joins, I'm sure things will work out in the end.
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@Deicide said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
@electricmastro I think it's fun to have a strong personality like hers trying to find harmony with other personalities. Robin, Franky and Brook weren't immediately accepted in the crew (or even by the readers), and each had to work to be accepted as "nakama".
So, whoever joins, I'm sure things will work out in the end.
I suppose, but I can't help but feel bad for her though. After seeing the Volume 106 cover, I'm reminded of how Luffy and his 9 recruits get to fly around a futuristic city while eating Vega-burgers and even tumbling with some Lunarian clones, and meanwhile, Hancock is being forced to run for her life from her home.
Also, I figure that Vivi may attempt to fulfill her legacy with the Will of D. and that Yamato will try to finish what Oden started by going to Laugh Tale, but for Hancock, I'm not sure what greater, nobler purpose Hancock would have that would justify going all the way to Laugh Tale with Luffy as her captain.
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I speculate the Kuja may have some kind of purpose regarding the Dawn, and that's the reason the tribe hates "Central" (as they call Mary Geoise) and isolated itself from the rest of the world. The 7-year old Hancock we see in Chapter 0 was already wanting to go to sea, and I like to think she wants to fulfill that purpose, whatever it is.The recent Nefertari Lily reveal also brought some speculation that she may have been the founder of Amazon Lily. While there's no solid evidence of that, I do wonder if that connection could be real. We know Lily never returned to Alabasta, and so far there's nothing saying she was killed by Imu, so where did she go?