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Loved the originality of the series, too bad I've only seen the dub. I would love to find some subs, but I don't know if I'm allowed to post that here, why am I still talking?
I really wish that either Toriyama World would shape up and scanslate everything they skipped and with a better speed, or that another group picks it up.
I love this series, though. My favorites heroes are Kinnikuman, Ramenman, Neptuneman, Prince Kamehame and Brocken Jr. My favorite villains are Buffaloman, Sunshine, and Warsman.
My favorites:
The Ninja
Bone Cold
Warsman
Brocken Jr.
Jade
Checkmate
Gazelleman
Hanzou
Hydrozoa (isn't it Kurioneman in Japanese?)
Comrade Turbinski (don't know his Japanese name)
My favorites:
The Ninja
Bone Cold
Warsman
Brocken Jr.
Jade
Checkmate
Gazelleman
Hanzou
Hydrozoa (isn't it Kurioneman in Japanese?)
Comrade Turbinski (don't know his Japanese name)
Bone Cold, The Ninja, and Hanzou are pretty awesome too. I think they threw in the lame construction guy to balance out the awesome of Hanzou and The Ninja.
I'm also fond of Kinkotsuman, though he doesn't do much after the early volumes. Rikishiman sadly didn't do all that much, either. I also liked Kinnikuman's father, Mayuri.
Springman was one of the few cool underlings of Buffaloman.
I always found Terryman and his son to be pretty lame.
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@Cap'n:
Bone Cold, The Ninja, and Hanzou are pretty awesome too. I think they threw in the lame construction guy to balance out the awesome of Hanzou and The Ninja.
I'm also fond of Kinkotsuman, though he doesn't do much after the early volumes. Rikishiman sadly didn't do all that much, either. I also liked Kinnikuman's father, Mayuri.
Springman was one of the few cool underlings of Buffaloman.
I always found Terryman and his son to be pretty lame.
Me too, the only time i like Terryman is when he fought King the 100 Ton.
And my favorite characters are Ramenman,Warsman,Kinnikuman,Sneagator,Stecase King,Sunshine,Kinnku Zebra,Omegaman,The Ninja,Springman,Benkiman,Robin Mask,Planetman,Black Hole,Dead Singal and King the 100 ton
This is my favorite team-up special in the PS2 game (Galactic Wrestling in U.S.):
(Bone Cold and Kinkotsuman)
I think I'd like the series if the scans were done better. I may just check out the Second Generation, though.
The reason I got into the series was because I had a ton of those little figurines as a kid. And I also had the NES game.
I still don't know much about the first series. I used to download them from Toriyama World…but that was many years ago. I thought they stopped or something, but I guess they just go slow. I was also disappointed how they skipped stuff.
I watched 2nd Generations/Ultimate Muscle on television. I want to see the Japanese version though. I don't have any of the Viz comic releases either.
I need to get this game:
Was the PS2 game here any fun?
I've played Galactic Wrestling (the clip I posted was from it), and I think it's pretty fun.
But I can't compare it to other wrestling games, because I don't play that many. But I got it new for really cheap, and I enjoy it. Only thing is that most characters seem kind of the same as far as how they play, but it's worth it to see all their attacks.
this is a series that was interesting but something about it just didn't click (the dub)
is there any signifigant difference in the versions
I have been told the manga is good and different from the anime version.
I actually liked the dub, it was silly and fun. :ninja:
I remember when those little M.U.S.C.L.E. figurines were popular.
is that the anime i watched when i was 10yo? i wonder.
I sort of enjoyed the dub as well. I also enjoy the Viz manga, because despite the name-changes and some edits, they try to stay true to the original and translate/explain some of the Japanese gags instead of trying to supplant them with something else (see: Bo-bobo dub)
I love what has been put out so far and I'm looking foward to the rest as well. What I really want to see is the tag team arc(s).
There's a tag team arc in Kinnikuman Nisei right now i can post some Images
http://forums.kinnikuman.com/forums/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=99720
Good news everyone Kinnikuman Nisei is on chapter 400! here's a picture
Which chapter does Pandaman appear in? I'm pretty sure that he had a one-time role in one of the Kinnikuman series.
Like Dragon Warrior, I've only really seen the dub, but even that was just plain awesome to me. I'd like to find some scans/fansubs sometime.
Which chapter does Pandaman appear in? I'm pretty sure that he had a one-time role in one of the Kinnikuman series.
I think Pandaman was in the 20th Choujin Olympics saga it started in chapter 28 to chapter 51 in Kinnikuman
Edit: I found a picture of Pandaman what he looks like on Kinnikuman
i made a mistake he appear in the first volume of Kinnikuman on page 157 i check thegrandline.com
(Sorry for double posting)
I found this from youtube
Yeah, I'm hyped up for this game. Zebra (my favorite of the 5) looks especially badass in the gameplay test videos. Like here:
Anyone else play Muscle Grand Prix MAX? It's the PS2 port of the first one… it's a really awesome game. Probably the best Kinnikuman game ever. I'm pretty excited for Grand Prix 2 and the subsequent port.
By the way:
http://www.apforums.net/showthread.php?t=11606
I bought Nisei volume 24 and started on a little rundown of Barrierfreeman's fight in it.
It reminds me of Tekken for some reason. I was hoping the Grand Prix games were like Aki's old wrestling games. But oh well, it still looks like a lot of fun Carter. I'll probably burn it tho to be on the safe side.
Reportedly there's going to be two other characters in Muscle Grand Prix II… Big the Budou and NEPTUNEMAN! He was pretty much the one character that I thought they missed in the old game. And since it looks like everyone from the old game (including the crapload of characters added in the PS2 port) will be in, all of my favorites will be playable. Awesome.
http://www.kinnikuman-mg2.com/
main site.
Watching the cutscenes in these games is the closest I have to kinnikuman goodness.
Id love to finance subbers(supply dvd raws) if I had the cash, just to see this subbed.
Did anyone like the dub? I thought it had its own personal charm. I still have the GC game to this day(only one I play) Its great. One of the only dubs I dont mind the voices of.(I did hear them first tho)
Id wish toriyama world would start releasing more and stopped skipping around so damn much.
It looks like they are skipping the tag team arc tho. Going straight to the fight for the crown and shoving big and neptune in that one. Makes sense tho, Generations was the tag team arc game really.
It plays alot like Aki's wrestlers garaa, my only problem with it is it lacks a training mode. That KILLS practicing this game for me(having to restart trying to perfect a move) and the music isnt the best(except for the stuff from the series. I find myself humming the tune that plays whenever kinnikuman fights someone he did in the seris(Like buffaloman and Akuma Shogun). i love that track.
I want to choke the announcer bitch tho, same damn chick from FFOP who rolls her tongue. OMG is that annoying.
Otherwise this game is alot of fun. It seems simple, but you can actually do alot. and it plays like no other fighter out there(which is good for an anime fighter)
So I bought it(because Im a fan who wants to collect the good games, like I do with OP fighters) and I still play it from time to time. The lack of training mode prevents me from getting deep into this game tho. i just play if for fun really.
also wtf is up with those weak ass lvl 9 supers? is there something special u need to do to make them do more damage. I was like "GAWD DAYUM" when kevin caught the dude on his foot and kicked him, but it did shit damage.
Someone on youtube is making some cool videos for the characters with their theme songs:
The user also has some for Ramenman, Terryman, and Planetman, but I haven't watched them yet (but I will). I think the user is going to upload more later.
Speak of the devil. I recently started downloading a bunch of those themes from Kinnikuman. Brocken Jr's is hilarious.
http://www.kinnikuman-mg2.com/
main site.
Watching the cutscenes in these games is the closest I have to kinnikuman goodness.
Id love to finance subbers(supply dvd raws) if I had the cash, just to see this subbed.
Did anyone like the dub? I thought it had its own personal charm. I still have the GC game to this day(only one I play) Its great. One of the only dubs I dont mind the voices of.(I did hear them first tho)
Id wish toriyama world would start releasing more and stopped skipping around so damn much.
It looks like they are skipping the tag team arc tho. Going straight to the fight for the crown and shoving big and neptune in that one. Makes sense tho, Generations was the tag team arc game really.
It plays alot like Aki's wrestlers garaa, my only problem with it is it lacks a training mode. That KILLS practicing this game for me(having to restart trying to perfect a move) and the music isnt the best(except for the stuff from the series. I find myself humming the tune that plays whenever kinnikuman fights someone he did in the seris(Like buffaloman and Akuma Shogun). i love that track.
I want to choke the announcer bitch tho, same damn chick from FFOP who rolls her tongue. OMG is that annoying.
Otherwise this game is alot of fun. It seems simple, but you can actually do alot. and it plays like no other fighter out there(which is good for an anime fighter)
So I bought it(because Im a fan who wants to collect the good games, like I do with OP fighters) and I still play it from time to time. The lack of training mode prevents me from getting deep into this game tho. i just play if for fun really.
also wtf is up with those weak ass lvl 9 supers? is there something special u need to do to make them do more damage. I was like "GAWD DAYUM" when kevin caught the dude on his foot and kicked him, but it did shit damage.
Yeah, for practice I just used survivial mode or arcade mode.
I think the purpose of the really weak level 9 supers is they completely deplete the other person's special gauge.
The dub was alright, but I hated some of their name changes. What the hell is wrong with "Gazelleman" or "Terry the Kid"? I also hate how Viz is using those names for their releases.
Another thing I don't like in Muscle Grand Prix MAX is how annoying it can be to unlock characters. I never did get Akuma Shogun or Ataru. I think the real frustration comes from the ways to unlocking stuff being so damn obscure, and there's little information online how to do it.
And yeah, I hope that if they try to cover the tag arc story-wise, they don't try to do anything wacky like tag team specials, since the gameplay is solid as is.
^ agreed. with just about everything(though i wouldnt trade the endless jokes me and my friends cracked about dik dik van dik for anyhting in the world. Alot of fun. XD)
I never noticed the depletion of the special gauge. Glad they do have a purpose.
I gave up on unlocking people a while ago. I dont even know if my favorite nisei character, bone cold, is even in the game. XD
heres a great example of things that can be done combo wise in this game.
Cant wait to see how the 2nd one improves on this.
and to the person who said Kinnikuman zebra was the best, you have great taste my friend.
EDIT: anyone ever seen these?:
http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=MuscleFightMovie
http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=mfmovie
best fan game Ive ever seen….period.
Yeah, Kinnikuman Zebra was always my favorite. His boxing techniques were pretty awesome, and I liked Muscle Inferno. Super Phoenix and Soldier (Ataru) were pretty cool too, but Big Body was king lame and Mariposa was the biggest gay in history
Muscle Fight looks pretty cool. Very impressive for a fan game.
Here's the full roster for Kinnikuman Muscle Grand Prix:
Seigi/Idol Choujins:
Kinnikuman
Terryman/Kinnikuman Great II
Robin Mask
Ramenman/Mongolman
Brocken Jr.
Wolfman
Pentagon
Warsman/Chloe
Geronimo
Benkiman
Kinnikuman Soldier/Ataru
7 Akuma Choujin:
Stecasse King
Black Hole
Springman
The Mountain
Mr. Kamen
Atlantis
Buffaloman
Akuma Knights:
Sneagator
Planetman
Junkman
The Ninja
Sunshine/New Sunshine
Ashuraman
Akuma Shogun
Kinnikuman Nisei:
Kinniku Mantaro
Terry the Kid
Jade
Kevin Mask
Checkmate
Scarface/Mars
Ilioukhine/Comrade Turbinski
Barrierfreeman
I think that's everyone.
Personally, one of my favorite things about the game was how the game owuld announce a character's name when you pick them. My favorite being Wolfman, haha.
LOL, I have yet to see a mariposa fan.
and no bone cold!?! damn. >_>
Does anyone know if Bone Cold appears again in the manga? He was also my favorite Nisei villain (along with Hanzo). The only things I know about Nisei is from the dubbed anime though.
I'm not quite sure if I will start buying the Viz manga though. I've been considering it, but haven't decided (since I'm buying too many other books, and edits bother me unless there is a good reason for them).
I did for a while, but the names and edits(road mans sign) bothered me, so I stopped.
I dont see why the rate the manga 17+, yet use the same names meant for kids 12 and under. who are they trying to sell this too? XD
I don't think Bone Cold has appeared again, but Hanzo reappears in the Demon Seed arc to help Mantaro and wins an awesome battle.
As for the Viz version, I heard they've started to really tone down their edits (aside from some name changes).
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What were some of the edits they made to Nisei? I mean, I was flipping through one of the volumes and saw Bone Cold ripping out some guy's rib cage and spine, so were they to avoid cultural differences instead of to tone down the violence?
Stuff like putting underwear on nude characters, editted out clothed erections, toning down the blood… etc.
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Hm, and how frequent are they? I could tolerate an occasional edit, but if they do that to every other page…
I would definitely start buying them if I could find some raws online. I'm a completist, so as long as I would be able to see the original artwork as well, then it wouldn't bother me so much.
If I wasn't already spending so much on import games at the moment I would probably just buy the Japanese versions online, then buy the Viz versions to read.
It just seems to me that Viz has the wrong idea of who is interested in Kinnikuman. I know that it showed on Saturday morning tv, but I was always under the impression that lots of older folks watched it. It seems that lots of the fans (in North America) were people who used to get those M.U.S.C.L.E. figurines years ago. People who were older than me (although I also had lots of those figurines when I was really young).
Yeah, Kinnikuman is awesome. I saw the dub when I was like 12 and was hooked, then it came of…>_<.
I saw vids on Youtube and was like "WTF?!?". Then Chibibee was busted. Surprisingly, I am still interested. I read some scanlations on Toryama world but got pissed by the inconsistancy. If they pick up the pace, I might continue (And if I have time).
I only seen the dub as well. And well I love it since I love wrestling, and the concept for the characters was cool. This and Shaman King are the only 4kids dubs I like. Plus I still remember those Mr.Cheeks last segments that they had in the dub. My favorite character is between Checkmate, and Kid Muscle.
Seen jsut the Dub and thought the show was cool . I missed the last episode though.
small question: were those pink eraser figures called MUSCLE from the show?
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small question: were those pink eraser figures called MUSCLE from the show?
The little figurine things from a long time ago? Yeah, those were from the original series.
They also made some for Nisei.
by the way, another cool Muscle Grand Prix 2 video:
Looks like they're really going all out
Do these games have any type of story mode? I was looking at the clips for the special moves for the first Grand Prix and I was impressed with it quite a bit.
Yeah, the story mode's pretty solid. There's one that goes through the 7 Akuma Choujin arc, and one that goes through the Golden Mask arc (with Akuma Shogun and the others).
It's kind of interesting because in order to fully complete the mode, unlock stuff, and finish the story, you have to get the matchups right. Robin Mask has to fight Atlantis, Geronimo has to fight Sunshine, etc. I goofed up in the Golden Mask mode (because I don't know Japanese) and picked the wrong tunnel at first, so Kinnikuman fought Planetman first instead of Sneagator. When I beat the other 5, the story mode ended and I got a Game Over.
So yeah, lots of cool detail for the fans.
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the only game I have played are Ultimate muscle :League vs new generation which did not intrest me for long considering it was for the Gamecube
But the PS2 version Ultimate muscle:galatic wrestling was better considering it had more characters and a mask mode which you steal masks from the other wrestlers
I think you're using "providing" in the wrong context.
And I got Nisei volumes 4 and 5 today. I really like the series, but it's getting a little samey…like, all the battles are similiar.
One of my favorite kinnikuman moments. One of the few anime moments tha tmade me actually feel sad.
I especially like how mammothman went out. Great vid.
Yes that video was sad ;-; aleast Robin Mask comes back alive at the end of Kinnikuman, Here i found Warsman vs Manriki i like Chibi Kinnikuman
