Note: If I offended anyone I apologize. As a trans person I just tend to hold different beliefs about things that relate to who I am.
@Demon:
I hate the line of reasoning that takes time out to be like "She's got a right to her viewpoints".
Nobody has the desire or ability to actually strip her of her "Right" to her viewpoint.
Well, some posts here were like that just because she's "famous. Even famous people should have their right to their opinion and not just agree with everyone else going against their viewpoints even if they are ones that are false. I feel like people have the right to speak their mind, honestly.
Like seriously. She's a very rich very famous author, and despite her efforts to be as shitty as possible, still very beloved to a lot of people. Yes some companies may think twice about letting her use their platform to spout hate, but she's never going to hurt for OTHER platforms that will bend over backwards to accommodate her.
Yeah, so? I'm not sure where you going for this. She's not out to get trans people, she just is misinformed about it. I'm trans you know, and I just disagree with how people are reacting to her.
This is just another case of "The mean bad thought police are trying to silence me!" being a smokescreen for dismissing valid criticism.
It's basically this:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EcXW6iPU4AE1zYr?format=png&name=large
But that's how it feels like in this thread, people want her to be silent and not speak her own opinion. Even if one has criticism, doesn't mean the person has to agree with it.
@Noqanky:
Rowling fails to understand why people are being particularly affected by her takes. This isn't just an instance of a random TERF spouting non-sense online and people deciding from there whether she's right or wrong… instead, it's a case of a woman with a significant amount of influence and power spouting non-sense that thousands of people will take at face value because of it being her, whether the information is right or not.
Yeah, but like I mentioned even famous people deserve their right to speak their mind even if it is not the most popular opinion.
THAT, to me, is what makes her actions reprehensible and extremely questionable, as well as subject to ire from social media. We can't just say "I disagree with you, but your opinion is fine" because this fails to raise the appropriate flags of how dangerous her misinformation is and lack of outcry would also mean a ton of people would assume she's ok to believe those things. And a ton of those people will in turn support action and legislation that directly harms transgender people.
As a trans person myself, I do not see this happening. I think that's looking too much into things. I feel like she has the right to believe what she believes in, it's not like she's calling out to people to change legislation.
Plus, even with legislation in place, there still be discrimination. I know because I moved here to my city that has transgender protections, but yet I got misgendered by many customers who treated me like a man and not a woman. I'm too scared of being an activist even for anything because of this fear that will increase my dysphoria with news outlets misgendering me. The problem for me is society itself and not an individual person.
I would place it at a similar level as anti-vaxxer celebrities: it's fine for you to be stupid as shit, but it crosses a line when your stupidity feeds misinformation to an audience that will accept your idiocy as truth, and which in turn causes harm to the non-stupid people of the world by proxy of the idiots that will now directly and indirectly harm them.
I disagree. It's their opinion, they have the right to be themselves even if it is toxic. Plus, they lost a lot of fans too because of said toxic beliefs, I believe. I hate people that spread false beliefs, but I refuse to deny them their right to express their stupid beliefs no matter who they are. It's better to try to educate people the best way we can, but it's easier said than done.
The part where I hesitate to agree is that the sad reality is that there ARE people who are probably harassing her with the goal of denying her her viewpoint. Though to me that's also on Rowling for choosing that platform.
Well, I was mainly talking about in this thread in general. That's how it felt like to me.
To me the stupidity in this is believing that putting things on twitter is a valid form of discourse and conversation, since what winds up happening is that instead it just lead to blind mobs that seek to coerce for one side or the other. However legitimate it is to criticize Rowling stops mattering, because to her it's no longer "sane" people criticizing her views. To her it's a blind twitter mob that's harassing and sending death threats for what she believes to be blind agreement to social justice standards. Even in her huge post about the topic, you can tell that this is what pushed her over the edge from liking and agreeing with random TERFs to outright being a spoke person for their bullshit.
Yeah, that really sucks. >_<
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@KzTxL7:
It is not people are "probably" harassing her with the goal of denying her viewpoint. They are.
It is not that she "believes" to be blind agreement to social justice standards. There is.
I don't really read what she writes but skimming down her Twitter responses a good majority of the opposition is just "Shut the fuck up" and just calling her "transphobe".
Obviously part of the problem is Twitter in general just being a terrible social media platform.
But let's not ignore the reality the cancer that is cancel culture/"woke" crowds with give a lot of credibility to her "beliefs". Many of them don't want to fight misinformation with proper information.
Thank you! I hate cancel culture! It's fucking bullshit! I hate censorship in general, and it annoys me that people want to cancel stuff because it's "offensive." I agree with you that if you really want to make a difference you got to fight misinformation with proper information, which is what I mentioned in one of my previous posts.