There are unfortunately going to be a lot of medical staff who suffer greatly after this. :/
The COVID-19 (Coronavirus) Thread
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@Medical:
"That's just a job for high school kids to make extra money" is something that gets thrown around a lot re: those jobs, but I've seen plenty of older people working in jobs with low pay and low respect too. Also some people aren't able to find different jobs or can only do specific jobs due to disability, and some people genuinely enjoy that kind of work.
My disability that keeps me from driving has definitely kept me from applying for lots of different jobs I was interested in. It's very frustrating, and one of the few reasons I'm still in retail. The only way to keep your brain in retail is to work for a store that matches your interests. For me that would be animals (hence working at Petco), books, shoes, or jewelry. If I worked at a Home Depot or something I would have gone crazy years ago.
Also a lot of stores won't hire anybody under 18 now, so I don't know what most high schoolers are doing for money other than babysitting or mowing lawns.
There are unfortunately going to be a lot of medical staff who suffer greatly after this. :/
sigh You knew that was going to happen sooner or later.
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I hate to admit that I have to consistently and consciously make an effort, to rewire my brain from "low-skilled jobs are dead-ends that deserve minimal respect" to "they're doing their job same as anyone else and their work is often more important and vital than those with higher pay". It's not like I was actively raised that way, but I think society likes to paint these jobs are temporary bad positions that are mere stepping stones to the "real" and "good" jobs.
I mean, there's plenty of "jobs" we can look down on, like televangelists and other people who prey on the poor and vulnerable.
I've gotten better but I still have to remember from time to time. From my personal experience, I picked that up because while living with my parents there was lots of talk that those complaining about low wages should just find a better job, as if it was easy as a snap of the finger. Throw in the American Conservative Media machine then it's easy to see how in the States various jobs are seen in a low light. I would hope at least some understand just how important these workers are after all of this is over, but my optimism for that has dwindled over the years.
On a different note, while not many the things I've seen people say/post to downplay this has been frustrating. It's ranged from saying it's no big deal since compared to other diseases where the death toll was in the millions, to good ol younger generation bashing as people say back in our day we weren't afraid of these things and went on with out lives whether it was a pandemic or a war going on. I think end of the day, a lot of people acting like this are just angry their daily lives have been flipped upside down, which I understand, but at the same time they don't understand how much sacrifice those still going to work are making. I know many people at my hospital alone who have to come into work when they'd rather not so not to risk a family member contracting the disease.
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It's simple: You want goods and services to be provided well, you treat their employees well. Before bashing on them thing if your bone to pick is not result of a corporate mandate before you assume is an employee's fault.
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I guess most capitalist societies have that built into it. I mean we don't have it as much because we have a more established cultural stigma about standing out or thinking you are better than someone else, but we still have to contend with that downplaying of "lesser jobs"
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The world could learn a lot from Scandinavia, they just don't want to.
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We learned form Scandinavia. Thor is a global superstar and everyone loved the new God of War video game.
Oh, and the artist whose work I use for my avatars is from Finland.
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Well we'll always have the Vikings.
What's funny is my dad wanted me to move to Scandinavia because he thought I would be happier there, but it's like, "Uhhhh, I don't have a job there, dad." I don't even know how hard the immigration paperwork is there.
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It's happening lol, California beaches closing down. Thank you to all the outsiders who crowded our beaches, sat around sunbathing in active-only zones, and ignored all social distancing and mask guidelines. Way to ruin it for those of us who actually live here and use the beach as a means of exercise and de-stressing. Has to happen though, idiots in charge of this county won't enforce any sort of rules regarding it even after this past weekend.
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It's happening lol, California beaches closing down. Thank you to all the outsiders who crowded our beaches, sat around sunbathing in active-only zones, and ignored all social distancing and mask guidelines. Way to ruin it for those of us who actually live here and use the beach as a means of exercise and de-stressing. Has to happen though, idiots in charge of this county won't enforce any sort of rules regarding it even after this past weekend.
I was curious and checked the replies on that tweet.
Now I'm not sure I live in the same world as those people. I mean… What the hell are they even talking about.
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I was curious and checked the replies on that tweet.
Now I'm not sure I live in the same world as those people. I mean… What the hell are they even talking about.
You godless euro commies wouldn't understand the language of freedom.
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Only thing these people are free from is the burden of common sense.
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I'm safez cause if i see dat there virus coming at me i'm planting a slug right betwenn his eyes. It is all a plot to turn decent folk into gay homosexuals. Also i heard that they put the virus into the vaccine to "cure" you, but i'm on to you soros, you ain't making me into a democrat with yer demon virus
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Now we're come full circle with Soros. Of course our Great Orbán has already declared the arrivel of the Soros-plan: Part Deux: The reckoning, because Soros, I guess, wrote something about the economical impart of Covid, or maybe just breathed funny for a sec.
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That might actually be useful now that there's been an increase in people drinking or inhaling disinfectants.
Wait what, that's an actual thing? Can't read the article.
Damn.
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My county is apparently considered a covid19 top10 hotspot now, according to the NYT. County had a small amount of reports for awhile but shot way up once workers at Tyson got it.
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If y'all want something to sing to entertain yourselves:
We ARE Rapunzel.
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Only thing these people are free from is the burden of common sense.
Agreed. I've unwisely subjected myself to reading the Twitter comments on these things several times, and came out of them with the initial reaction of "I fucking hate this country", lulz. I've had to work hard to keep it in perspective and remind myself that the people saying these things are just a vocal minority–not enough of a minority, sadly, but still a minority–and the majority of our citizens are in favor of playing things safe and do find people like these Twitter trolls ridiculous.
All the same, it is indeed appalling regardless that there are so many people who clearly care more about the economy than saving people's lives, and try to justify it with shit like
- Quoting Benjamin Franklin's statement about giving up freedom to gain security, despite that being way out of context,
- Quoting parts of the Constitution, also out of context,
- Insisting COVID is an overblown hoax and no deadlier or more contagious than the flu,
- Insisting that we need to protect the "higher risk" people by only keeping them quarantined and letting everyone else go out and live their lives, ignoring the effects it would have on the health system, the fact that it would very easily spread to the "high-risk" folks that way, and the fact that so-called "low risk" healthy people have been getting sick from this to the point of needing hospitalization, too,
- Calling Democrat/liberal leaders who make these policies "communists", "dictators", "fascists", "Nazis", etc. (which, lulz, make up your minds, idiots), and themselves "patriots" for wanting to defy it,
- And much, much more.
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- Insisting COVID is an overblown hoax and no deadlier or more contagious than the flu
Except they seem to forget (or stupidly never realized), that the flu can be DAMN DANGEROUS. It's only because so many of us get our flu shots that it doesn't get worse (Spanish Flu, anyone?).
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I adore how they think of themselves as proud warriors standing up for what is right as if being cautious in times of a global pandemic is akin to hurting the weak and kicking puppies.
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Yeah, the flu also kills tons of people every year, but even if you point that out, these idiots still like to treat it like "Well, we don't shut the economy down for the flu every year, so we shouldn't be doing it with this!", trying to post (very skewed) numbers of death rates and such that "prove" that this isn't any worse. Which, in addition to the fact that that is blatantly false, also completely disregards the fact that, yes, we have a vaccine for the flu–one that doesn't prevent it 100% of the time, sure, but is far better than not having one at all--and lots of people still die from it every year. So since we don't yet have one for COVID, even if we humored their inaccurately low numbers, COVID is still more dangerous.
And, indeed, these "true 'Muricans", proud "patriots", whatever you wanna call them, act like these temporary measures instated to save lives are trying to take away their freedom forever. Y'know what freedom these people have always had, always feel the need to exercise, and the one that should definitely be taken away from them but never can be? The so-called "God-given" freedom to be a complete raging dumbass.
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I would say "they need to watch a documentary on Spanish Flu or Smallpox" but they wouldn't learn anything from it anyway.
Case in point: Couple years ago I got my flu shot, then the next couple days I felt "meh" because that's how it works. My coworker saw me looking a little low then gave me a whole speech about how it's pointless to put yourself through that when it doesn't work 100%. I told her it's worth it if it gives me even a small chance of success, because feeling "meh" isn't a big deal. Didn't listen. What happened? She got the flu, I didn't. I didn't tell her "told ya so" though because she would just get angry.
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These are the same people that are pro-life, but only if that life is an unborn fetus. Once it is born, they'll happily sacrifice it to the COVID-god in order to save their bank accounts.
Also, eating bats has been a big hit in the U.S. ever since Ozzy showed us how. Don't go shutting down our all-you-can-eat-10-types-of-bat buffet restaurants with free pangolin-pudding dessert.
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Heh, sounds about right. I, too, have gotten the flu shot every year for around a decade now, and have never had the flu since.
And, yup, gotta love the hypocrisy of those pro-lifers who will scream about the rights of a not-yet-fully-alive human, but then don't give a shit about what happens to him/her once (s)he's born and possibly grows up in horrible living conditions.
@Zeorn:DISCLAIMER: No bats or pangolins were harmed in the making of this post.
A cat got sick and somebody shot a duck, but that's it.
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They weren't strict enough to begin with and tons of people didn't follow them anyway but things are only going to get worse now.
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People are aware that in 3 months Covid has claimed more american lives than 3 years of Korea War or 8 years of the Vietnam War.
And I would claim the Spanish Flu was a good warning exemple, because Europe was in rags due to the war, sanitation was a new thing that hadn’t reach a fifth of the world, malnutrition was probably high due to war efforts, a modern medicine was just moving from lets prescribe cocaine to lets not do it.
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They weren't strict enough to begin with and tons of people didn't follow them anyway but things are only going to get worse now.
Well we knew that, but yeah Trump just wants to let the states struggle on their own so he doesn't have to deal with it.
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They weren't strict enough to begin with and tons of people didn't follow them anyway but things are only going to get worse now.
I don't know exactly how it works, but if a state has a sane governor, can't they introduce independent rules for their own states? To at least protect the people in those area.
In Hungary, each mayor got special rights to introduce restrictions to their respective counties/districts as they deem necessary, at least in the weekends I think.
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I want to show the picture I took but I'm being tired and lazy.
Two days ago a woman returned 18 Nintendo Switch Lites. All of which she had ordered online. It was both hilarious but simultaneously annoying as hell because we had so many people looking for Switches and yet we had people like her. And I highly doubt she had some sort of good intentions with them other than trying to resell them at a high price (but failed).
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Spain is about to relax the lockdown tomorrow, witch I say I will relax the lockdown in about two months. Too many people are thinking "Relaxing == Ending" for my tastes.
I can still work from home, and if I can get a little more sunlight in my life (and my fucking passportS as in both of them), I'll be mostly fine. I also need a work desk and a proper chair, before my back becomes a kanji.
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just read california is "Many Days" away from starting to reopen.. Yay.
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For those who live in Massachusetts, starting May 6th it is now required to wear a mask in public by state order:
https://www.mass.gov/news/wear-a-mask-in-public?fbclid=IwAR25IE8LgKTcmZM5gX6DUo5Fll45j4XsBdRrfkVCCQfX1lqNzW6kiavhUzEFine by me. If the idiot in chief is going to make places open again, we can at least have the masks.
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Georgia has decided to just start handing out driver's licenses to teens without testing them.
All they need is a parent's permission.Is the governor of Georgia huffing bleach like Trump suggested?
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lol someone compare that to whatever draconian psuedo Jim Crow voting laws and policies they've been up to recently.
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I also need a work desk and a proper chair, before my back becomes a kanji.
This. So much this. My first week i worked off our wooden kitchen chairs and angle i had to work at and the stiffness of the chair caused some serious issues. Like i must've hit a nerve or something cause i kept spasming randomly around the coccyx. Finally got to drive out and get our office chairs from work, thank christ for that
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First two weeks were hell, as the work laptop didn’t connect to my screen, and I thought amazon was out since then, once I realized my mistake I got an adapter and a keyboard so at least I don’t have to look down, but the space is a limited comodity in That desk, when I moved to this place I had the chance to get a better one but I said “nah” i got the screen for my normal laptop and just put it in a big furniture right next to it, witch I moved and can’t move back without levels of disruption that I’m not willing to stomach, so the sacrifice should be to work with only one screen, like an animal, until I get the new desk.
I agree with the mask, but I still feel that the gloves (unless it is a store that gives you gloves when you go in and you take them off when you go out) are a waste of time, plastic and a false sense of security, as they seem to be taken as an excuse to not wash your hands or change them as soon as possible.
They key part is don’t touch your face, first two weeks of this mess taught me we do that to much. Then breathing higiene and the masks. And distance.
But the message has been too much on “use masks” but not on how to use them.
Pro Tips:
Your chin isn’t the point of infection or spread, the mouth and nose are, so they have to be covered
That means that breathing will be harder; that is kind of the point.
The mask has to be put on, adjusted and removed by the straps (not straps). Think of the outside part of the mask as covered in poo, and react accordingly whenever You touch that. Or breathe over that.
Think of removing the mask in the streets akin to removing your space helmet, you done and fucked up, probably.
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But the message has been too much on “use masks” but not on how to use them.
Pro Tips:
Your chin isn’t the point of infection or spread, the mouth and nose are, so they have to be covered
That means that breathing will be harder; that is kind of the point.
The mask has to be put on, adjusted and removed by the straws. Think of the outside part of the mask as covered in poo, and react accordingly whenever You touch that. Or breathe over that.
Think of removing the mask in the streets akin to removing your space helmet, you done and fucked up, probably.
I've never heard anything about using straws to remove the mask.
You're right, there's basically no information out there about how to properly use and handle masks.
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Autocorrect, I meant straps, sorry.
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I agree with the mask, but I still feel that the gloves (unless it is a store that gives you gloves when you go in and you take them off when you go out) are a waste of time, plastic and a false sense of security, as they seem to be taken as an excuse to not wash your hands or change them as soon as possible.
I use gloves when I go grocery shopping. Spray the surface of them with a coating of Lysol too before I leave the house.
I know I'm not going to touch my face with gloves on, and I don't trust that other people who have handled the products I'm buying before me are as careful as myself, don't have the virus and haven't transferred it to the surface of whatever I'm handling. Once home, they go into a trash can outside. I wash my hands inside, disinfect/wash products outside and wash hands again just in case after I bring them in.
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Here, from someone with actual credentials on the stuff: https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public/when-and-how-to-use-masks
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Autocorrect, I meant straps, sorry.
Oh.
Well still, would it be a bad idea if I kept a bunch of coffee stirrers around and used them to take the mask off?
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Newsom says california is now days away from stage 2 reopenings in possibly a week
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David Pakman put out a video talking about how he no longer trusts Trump's government to ensure even the most basic level of safety for citizens in a national emergency and he's started buying prepper stuff in case we elect another Trump in the future.
I'm reminded of how, when I heard the CDC advisory for citizens to store two weeks worth of food and water in late Feb, I ended up buying several months worth of nonperishables because while shopping I asked myself if Trump would really let people starve and the answer was "yes".
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I mean….we could always eat the rich. Ol' Trump alone could feed three people.
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Ewwwww, who would want to eat that pile of blubber?
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Fat supposedly provides flavor when you cook the meat. The trick is finding the marbled pieces as opposed to just fat on fat on fat.
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See, in this potential cannibal apocalypse, I would use Trump's body as fertilizer. He's big, and full of beef, so I assume you can use him to make great crops.
You know who I'd think would be delicious? Elon Musk. He's probably healthy, physically at least.
Boy I hope the FBI don't watch this site.
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Well its better than that time we talked about how to best cook other forum members
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The thing about eating the rich, is that you are going to get one, and then the rest will pay us to eat among ourselves.
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