Don't know how you can really go with half the cast dead and another quarter crippled.
Kimetsu no Yaiba
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It is a solid twist. I very much hope it is a twist to make the end more tragic or wholesome and not to continue beyond the natural ending point. Sometimes it's fine to end stuff before their popularity run out.
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Yes I agree it was a great unforeseen twist. But it explains the role of Nezuko in the final battle. So far I don't see how it changes thing wrt to the end of the serie.
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Felt pretty mixed on the twist, but I'll wait to see how it plays out first.
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It probably would be best story-wise to end it after this battle (although then one of my fave shounen series would end sob), but I could see if they wanted to keep it going (as it's one of the most popular Jump series) then they could have Tanjiro run off and become the new demon king, then have NETSUKO become the demon-hunter in his stead. But yeah, probably not best to string it out too long.
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I honestly think this is just a final twist for a dramatic finale, rather than an attempt at a shippuuden. If they had simply defeated Muzan, the series would just have ended on a typical all out final boss defeat. One which was kind of underwhelming for many people (myself included). This allows the roles of Tanjiro and Nezuko to be reversed from what they were in chapter 1, providing some much needed drama to make for a memorable ending to a memorable series.
IF Shueisha don't push it and it ends here (maybe we can even have a less than happy ending, maybe Tanjirou has to kill himself to protect Nezuko or something) it will certainly remain in my heart as a relatively short and (bitter)sweet shonen series. Otherwise, I think I'll just grow tired of it.
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Why do some of you think this series is ending? Usually we'd have "Manga is entering its final arc" announcements in the magazine or news reports on which volume would be the last… nothing like this happened here, not now and not in the weeks leading up to Muzan's defeat either. A twist was therefore not only expected, but also kinda easy to narrow down since it can really only end in a few ways: Muzan escaping or Muzan dying, but a new threat emerging. And there was also an interview with Wani where she said she initially wanted to turn Nezuko into the main character but editorial influence and suggestions made her change it - combining all of these information make this twist the most likely.
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Am I the only one that thinks the medicine is gonna work somewhat?
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Why do some of you think this series is ending? Usually we'd have "Manga is entering its final arc" announcements in the magazine or news reports on which volume would be the last… nothing like this happened here, not now and not in the weeks leading up to Muzan's defeat either. A twist was therefore not only expected, but also kinda easy to narrow down since it can really only end in a few ways: Muzan escaping or Muzan dying, but a new threat emerging. And there was also an interview with Wani where she said she initially wanted to turn Nezuko into the main character but editorial influence and suggestions made her change it - combining all of these information make this twist the most likely.
Uhm… 23 February 2019: [https://www.reddit.com/r/KimetsuNoYaiba/comments/atut1r/the_manga_confirmed_to_be_in_its_final_arc/
S](https://www.reddit.com/r/KimetsuNoYaiba/comments/atut1r/the_manga_confirmed_to_be_in_its_final_arc/)orry to say, but it's ending, mate. As I said, unless Shueisha makes the author pull a shippuuden, which I'd hate. This story has told its tale. Tanjirou (and the demon slayers in general) was bent on killing Muzan and exacting his revenge for killing his family, while finding a cure to turn Nezuko back into a human. Both have been achieved. What's left is for Nezuko to get Tanjirou back to his senses and for this twist to get a resolution.
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Yeah, I thought I read at some point it was ending and why would you want it to continue?
Muzan is dead and Nezuko is human. If Tanjiro stayed a demon and became the new enemy it would only be because he is not conscious of his actions as we all know he'd never hurt Nezuko or his friends. Nobody would want Tanjiro as the enemy to begin with, and if he is not in control of himself it just seems stupid to have some mindless monster as the enemy. Not to mention most the characters are dead or mutilated to a fraction of their fighting strength. If Tanjiro became the new enemy and they had to go through all of this again against their friend it would all feel bitter and pointless.
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Uhm… 23 February 2019: [https://www.reddit.com/r/KimetsuNoYaiba/comments/atut1r/the_manga_confirmed_to_be_in_its_final_arc/
S](https://www.reddit.com/r/KimetsuNoYaiba/comments/atut1r/the_manga_confirmed_to_be_in_its_final_arc/)orry to say, but it's ending, mate. As I said, unless Shueisha makes the author pull a shippuuden, which I'd hate. This story has told its tale. Tanjirou (and the demon slayers in general) was bent on killing Muzan and exacting his revenge for killing his family, while finding a cure to turn Nezuko back into a human. Both have been achieved. What's left is for Nezuko to get Tanjirou back to his senses and for this twist to get a resolution.
I actually missed that news, wtf. Okay, this is the end then. Fair enough, I can get behind that.
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Apparently May 11th will be the end. Also the next four volumes will be release this day, and it has already reach the mark of 38M volumes sold this fiscal year. Talk about ending with a bang.
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The chapter was great. I loved every moment of it.
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https://mangaplus.shueisha.co.jp/viewer/1006548
Can only say this…! God Muzan is pathetic.
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It was a really nice chapter, both in the drawings and the feelings
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i got moisty eye-d.
i am happy that we got a not-so-bleach ending statement; i believe we have 5-ish chapters before wrapping the last volume. it's gonna get emotional, I guess
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Meh, now that that's over, I can safely say I wasn't really a fan of Tanjiro becoming a demon in the first place. It didn't lead to any dark conclusion, neither did he die. Not that I really wanted that, but in hindsight it just feels like a roundabout way to cure his severe injuries.
Visually him turning back to normal was nice to look at, especially Muzan getting desperate to have him stay, but that's about it. Also don't feel that it makes up for Nezuko's lack of screentime in this arc.
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Well Muzan was not lying when he said that if Tanjiro embraced his "gift", he would have truly become some sort of God. If he escaped, it would have given him time to grow much stronger as his body got used to his new powers. No longer having the sun as a weakness and the opposition being decimated, the story could have not believably continued in the present.
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https://mangaplus.shueisha.co.jp/viewer/1006548
Can only say this…! God Muzan is pathetic.
Right? Makes you want to say something like, "So long, dumbass!"
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i got moisty eye-d.
i am happy that we got a not-so-bleach ending statement; i believe we have 5-ish chapters before wrapping the last volume. it's gonna get emotional, I guess
Last chapter is schedule for May 11th, next week is golden week so…one more chapter.
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Last chapter is schedule for April 11th, next week is golden week so…one more chapter.
May 11th I assume is what you meant.
Yeah…I dunno how to feel about this. Muzan hanging on desperately was...Eh?
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All Muzan has ever tried to do is survive and live forever, he died but tried to pass his powers onto Tanjiro to live through him. You think Muzan would finally decide "Yeah, I lived a good productive life and I think I'll just pass along peacefully with my entire legacy gone."
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He's too petty and childish for that.
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Frankly, Muzan fell short from the threatening presence we gave when he first encountered Tanjiro. He is an overwhelming power with no style of substance, may also add brains too, he was to petty, childish and obsessed in self-preservation to the point he failed in do the exact thing he obsessed since the encounter with Yoriichi. Imo Upper Moons 1 to 3 were better antagonists than him.
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Also, was ever addressed why he slayed Tanjiro's family, as in he was hunting any one related to Yoriichi, or it was just a random act of violence?
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No, just chance.
It is like Star Wars but instead of them following the tracks to Luke's home, "We were just passing through and decided to slaughter your family."
Also, Tanjiro isn't even a descendant of Yoriichi. It seemed like Yoriichi just happened to be a friend of Tanjiro's ancestor and the ancestor memorized the forms after seeing them 1 time and passed them down perfectly from generation to generation along with the earrings. Hell of a memory that guy had, not to mention the complete physical control to be able to mimic the forms flawlessly considering he wasn't a swordsman/martial artist. Yeah, I think Tanjiro's family has some crazy memory bloodline, Tanjiro even saw Sumiyoshi's memories himself.
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So, it was a really beautiful chapter to read. Well drawn, I liked the struggle and the overall message. And it couldn't have been a more humiliating way for Muzan to die. After turning into a giant baby, he keeps begging and crying inside Tanjiro as he is slowly left among his mountain of corpses.
BUT, all in all, the entire final boss fight and this demon Tanjiro drama weren't that great. I have to agree with those who say we have had much better enemies in the past, both in terms of fighting sequence and in terms of story and personality. Muzan fell into the nearly "mindless big monster" category that many final boss fights also become. I don't know why so many mangaka go this route, it's just not that interesting. And after seeing Tanjiro turn into a demon, I was hoping that this would lead to a longer drama, with a more epic struggle both inside and outside his mind. It was sweet, but it just didn't make up for the lacking final fight.
Either way, this was a pleasant series to read. I will never get the enormous boom that made it break even One Piece's selling record in a single year, just like I will never get how it was so underestimated at first, when it started serialization. But it was still a relatively short and sweet series to follow. And it will keep me waiting for the author's next work eagerly.
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I didn't liked Demon Tanjiro too, felt more a coup to heal him than anything else.
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Also, was ever addressed why he slayed Tanjiro's family, as in he was hunting any one related to Yoriichi, or it was just a random act of violence?
He was hunting down anyone who was related to the Sun Pillar.
I agree with you. In the end Muzan ended up being a boring and generic villain, completely antithetical to the story that the author had been crafting. In the end his goals amounted to simply surviving and living as a monster.
Seriously, why was this guy posing as a human, with a wife and kids no less. What did that ever accomplish.
I used to think he would end up being the kind of villain who would test Tanjirou's kindness and morality in a compelling way. He just ended up being a generic monster with one trick(flailing arms).
Seriously his only move was to flail his arms all over the place. He's like Youpi from Hunter x hunter without the raw talent and strategy that Youpi possessed.
This story was great but its been severely marred by such a lackluster climax.
Now if they had turned out boy tanjirou into a monster for good. That would have been great and would have introduced a compelling narrative angle to the story.
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Yeah, when I used related to Yoriichi I was speaking in the broadest terms, as in any bloodline relatives of his and any bloodline of his associates he had in life.
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By the way is Muzan still posing as a family father?
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Nah, he changes his cover over the course of the story. He was only a family man in the first appearance iirc. Next time we saw him he was a woman (some kind of teacher I think? I don't really remember), and after that he was a rich kid.
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I think Muzan's fate is still open ended, unless the manga is coming to an end.
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Muzan is clearly left among the dead in the afterlife. The manga ends next chapter, so…
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Either way, this was a pleasant series to read. I will never get the enormous boom that made it break even One Piece's selling record in a single year, just like I will never get how it was so underestimated at first, when it started serialization. But it was still a relatively short and sweet series to follow. And it will keep me waiting for the author's next work eagerly.
I hope she will try something new and not go the Spinoff easy way. The second title after a big hit is always the hardest so I'm hoping for a 'Siver Spoon' rather than 'Samurai 8' scenario
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Since we're pretty much at the end of this, can i just say what a disappointingly wet fart of a villain Muzan turned out to be (and this final arc in general honestly but that's another can of worms). He started so strong with a striking design, presence and intrigue. The family angle was an interesting idea that could have been fleshed out to give his character more depth, how does a demon who feasts on humans reconcile having a human family? Apparently they were nothing more than a cover though and were never seen again after Muzan's introduction. So what we're left with could still have been good, I love many a villain without any real depth but propped up by their boundless evil charisma and panache. Dio, Frieza, Crocodile, hell just recently there was Ibari from Dr. Stone, a conniving old man with bare bones motivation who exuded so much evil charisma and exhibited such cruelty all the while deploying intelligent tactics that pushed our heroes to the limit.
Muzan didn't really have any of that, Muzan was just boring. I guess the point is that he's this cold, emotionless destroying machine, like a natural disaster, but in execution, he just came off as flat. It doesn't help that he was nerfed with a super cocktail drug before his fight even began (begging the question of why even give him so many overpowered abilities in the first place? For the most satisfying conclusion, a villain should always be beaten at his best) but even putting that aside nothing from his performance or what was needed to beat him was particularly impressive compared to even his minions. Yeah, half the guys who fought him died but they were already half dead from their previous battles. Also all those guys got wrecked OFFSCREEN so even Muzan's most intimidating accomplishment was never actually seen. His fight was mostly a mess of flailing sharp tentacles with no real tactics or strategy to speak of. His only noteworthy feature was that he was really, really tough to kill I guess, like a cockroach.
In terms of fantastic fights, this series peaked at Upper Sixth and never managed to reach that level again. This is probably in part due to the author rushing the series and writing himself into a corner by forcing two on ones against enemies that previously needed whole groups of demon slayers and volumes long arcs to beat.
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Rethinking about Dio who is the perfect comparable to Muzan really puts into perspective of how weak a villain he was.
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Muzan fighting: frantically swings tentacles and spits poisonous blood
All the upper moons, with refined, distinct and powerful fighting styles; bruh
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Muzan was definitely disappointing. It's like the higher the rank the less thought went into their techniques. UM1 was pretty boring too.
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Well the only thing Koku gained by turning demon was the regeneration, is not like he was gonna drop his sweet breathing technique that he was obsessed it was pointless to pass down because no one will be as good as he and his brother.
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Yeah but the breathing techniques didn't really look like anything other than slashing very quickly. This is one of the few series where I think the anime really helps fights scenes have some character.
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Muzan to me was the only place where the ball was really dropped, and even then he had a fabulous design. So I look forward to the author's new series, whether it's a spin-off or not.
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Rethinking about Dio who is the perfect comparable to Muzan really puts into perspective of how weak a villain he was.
Nothing Muzan did came close to how amazing this is.
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Muzan to me was the only place where the ball was really dropped, and even then he had a fabulous design. So I look forward to the author's new series, whether it's a spin-off or not.
She's doing a new project?
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She's doing a new project?
She’s bound to Shuheisha will not let a her rest now they know she can out sale OP.
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I'd kinda like her to do the Demon Slayer high school AU lol.
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I know I’m gonna get a lot of shit for saying this but…. I think it has more to do with the insanely awesome quality of the animation than the actual manga itself, if it was just some other average anime I don’t think it would ever have become this big a phenomenon
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I know I’m gonna get a lot of shit for saying this but…. I think it has more to do with the insanely awesome quality of the animation than the actual manga itself, if it was just some other average anime I don’t think it would ever have become this big a phenomenon
It's a mix: solid character writing and development, organic an interesting character interactions, a basic power system given a good and creative visual representation; setting, lore and principles (such and family and one duty) that resonate well with japanese audiences, a finally a stellar animation given by an underdog studio.
I think is hard to dissociate one from another, UFO Table will be forever be bound to a higher expectation of quality on other projects that can either make or break them. -
Having your first work be a smash hit is both a blessing and a curse. Their next work can make or break them as people will actually have some expectations instead of just being the underdog that surprises everyone. They could become a Toriyama who followed Dr. Slump with Dragon Ball which became a worldwide hit or be the next Watsuki that made Gun Blaze West which was a gigantic failure after Rurouni Kenshin. We even saw it just recently with Kishimoto who fell flat on his face with Samurai 8.
Kimetsu had some wrongs but it did mostly right and kept it simple. Hopefully the next serialization continues to build up from this solid base and not trying too hard making it needlessly complicated like Kishimoto did with Samurai 8.
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Nah, the anime was a work of art and after watching it I read the manga like most people. Honestly, the character depth isn't One Piece level but I guess that is a high bar to set (and my personal preference), the fights are cool but the whole system of breathing and forms vs. random demon powers was not the best in my opinion. I didn't like the breath system but seeing their attacks animated with water, lightning, etc…was awesome. Again this just might be my personal preference for more complex systems or access to wide ranges of powers like Hunter X Hunter, One Piece, or even Bleach. Maybe the author couldn't give swords unique powers or make things more complex because then they'd just be accused of copying Bleach or something like that because they both use swords.
Demons, on the other hand, have blood techniques that can be completely random and all the upper moons have silly ways to not die from getting their heads chopped off which did seem Bleach-esque to me. But, no swords.
I'm not trying to trash this manga or anything, but whereas I'd put the anime in my "Top Anime" category and probably recommend it to people who don't watch anime, I never felt the same fervor for the manga. Of course, part of that might also be that I binge-read the manga to the final arc.
All in all, I would have liked more character depth and a more complex/varied fighting system for the Demon Slayers.
Oh, but in terms of comedic relief type character Zenitsu Agatsuma should be the prototype of how it is done right. Love Zenitsu. Inosuke is pretty awesome too, but putting him in the same manga as Zenitsu just means he'll be number 2. Also, Inosuke needs interaction with Tanjiro to really shine, without Tanjiro he just isn't the same.
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It's a mix: solid character writing and development, organic an interesting character interactions, a basic power system given a good and creative visual representation; setting, lore and principles (such and family and one duty) that resonate well with japanese audiences, a finally a stellar animation given by an underdog studio.
I think is hard to dissociate one from another, UFO Table will be forever be bound to a higher expectation of quality on other projects that can either make or break them.I'm personally not a huge fan of the manga. I recognize why it's liked and can respect it, but it's just not my thing, not a knock on it, sometimes something just doesn't click with you, ya know
For example, I hate Frank Sinatra's music, But I know he's an amazing musician with immense talent, it's just not my thing