Vivre Card: One Piece Visual Dictionary
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New Jump scan.
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Thanks Redon
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Carrot number is 955!!!
5+5= 10
10-9=1
10+1=11!Finally we have official clear confirmation
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@.access:
Carrot number is 955!!!
5+5= 10
10-9=1
10+1=11!Finally we have official clear confirmation
Dear god it's been right in front of our face the whole time :ninja:
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@.access:
Carrot number is 955!!!
5+5= 10
10-9=1
10+1=11!Finally we have official clear confirmation
Sorry to be confused, but where did you get that calculation?did it appear from your head?
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So Carrot is joining the crew 8 chapters from now, right? There's no other way. I mean, she DID debut before Wanda, the numbering doesn't make any sense otherwise.
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@Kaido:
So Carrot is joining the crew 8 chapters from now, right? There's no other way. I mean, she DID debut before Wanda, the numbering doesn't make any sense otherwise.
Wanda got a prominent title card first. And dialogue. I think Carrot has never gotten a title card, in fact….
And if numbering is going purely by appearance order, Tristan should be the first Mink.
I mostly want names for the remaining members of the musketeer squad.
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Wanda got a prominent title card first. And dialogue. I think Carrot has never gotten a title card, in fact….
And if numbering is going purely by appearance order, Tristan should be the first Mink.
I mostly want names for the remaining members of the musketeer squad.
Wanda and Carrot got Odaboxes on the same page, but they're positioned so that Wanda's would be read first.
Tristain never got an Odabox, so she should be first, but I figure she's going to be an EX character.
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I've had this question for awhile, so I thought I'd ask it before the new packs drop. In your opinion Captain M, who do you think are characters #622 to 626? Going over your Vivre Card visual guide, there are five open spots between Sukoshiba Kanishitoru and Little Oars Jr. At first I thought they might name the other members of the Giant Squad (even if their numbers seem off, as seen with some previously unnamed characters), but that doesn't seem to pan out since aside from Ronse and Lacroix, there are six other members (unless one member is given #639). It could be some of Whitebeard's allies, though image wise several have small head shots in the manga and the only clear facial images of them only exist in concept art format from the Green databook.
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626 is clearly Stitch do you even ohana.
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From TalkOP.
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From TalkOP.
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https://images2.imgbox.com/03/0d/FU3RyJSy_o.jpgFor a moment I was disappointed at the colour of Jack's card, but upon closer inspection, it seems that dark green is the designated colour for Kaido's crew. Can't wait for the rest of the set to turn up!
I've had this question for awhile, so I thought I'd ask it before the new packs drop. In your opinion Captain M, who do you think are characters #622 to 626? Going over your Vivre Card visual guide, there are five open spots between Sukoshiba Kanishitoru and Little Oars Jr. At first I thought they might name the other members of the Giant Squad (even if their numbers seem off, as seen with some previously unnamed characters), but that doesn't seem to pan out since aside from Ronse and Lacroix, there are six other members (unless one member is given #639). It could be some of Whitebeard's allies, though image wise several have small head shots in the manga and the only clear facial images of them only exist in concept art format from the Green databook.
The real problem with that set is that the EX cards have already skipped over it and I have no idea where you'd find five more characters worthy of full cards introduced in that period. Any new Marineford Saga or Whitebeard Pirates EX card would literally have to go backwards in numbers to fill the gap, so it's unlikely to be either of them. I could see Bastille being one of them, since he showed up around that point and had more than enough screentime in Dressrosa, but as for the rest, who knows.
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translation etenboy orojackson
0960 Jack
“Jack the Drought”
Fruit: Elephant-Elephant fruit Ancient type model: Mammoth
Brown Spotted Cod Fishman
Beasts Pirates/AllStar
Mammoth/Captain
【Profile】
Gender:male
Ship: Mammoth
Birthday: September 28
Age: 28
Height: 830cm
Origin: Grand Line
Favorite food: Elephant steak
【Bounty】1 Billion0967 Inuarashi
“King of Day” “Duke Inuarashi”
Haki: Armament, Observation
Dog Mink
Nine Red Scabbards
Mokomo Dukedom/King
【Profile】
Gender: male
Birthday: October 11
Age: 40
Height: 322cm
Origin: Mokomo Dukedom
Favorite food: Bone0971 Nekomamushi
“Guardian of the Whale Forest” “King of Night” “Master Nekomamushi”
Cat Mink
Nine Red Scabbards
Mokomo Dukedom/King
【Profile】
Gender: Male
Birthday: November 22
Age: 40
Height: 318cm
Origin:Mokomo Dukedom
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Jack is 28?
You're telling me he helped wage the attack on Wano at Momonosuke's age?
On one hand, it seems wrong, on the other hand, his little brother complex to Queen and King makes more sense, especially if they're a decade plus older than him.
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@Kaido:
Jack is 28?
You're telling me he helped wage the attack on Wano at Momonosuke's age?
On one hand, it seems wrong, on the other hand, his little brother complex to Queen and King makes more sense, especially if they're a decade plus older than him.
If 5 years old BM defeated elbaf, 8 years old jack hepling kaidou defeat wano is not unlikely.
But if he is full fishman, do they age like humans?
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They should have use a pic of Nekomamushi pre injury. He looks cooler.
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Jack confirmed a fishman, was 8 years when they killed Oden (!) and is nearly as big as Linlin. Huh…
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0960 Jack
Favorite food: Elephant steakSo in an alternate ending, Zou would end with Jack and co. having a massive barbeque.
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@uniaka:
If 5 years old BM defeated elbaf, 8 years old jack hepling kaidou defeat wano is not unlikely.
But if he is full fishman, do they age like humans?
This definitely doesn't look like a 8yo:
General assumption now seems to be Kaido had a different Jack back then and the current one was enlisted at some point later.
Looking back now, it did sounded like Jack and Shutenmaru had never met before their recent clash, so the possibility of a 1st Jack before him could be likely.
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@.access:
This definitely doesn't look like a 8yo:
[qimg]https://i.postimg.cc/ZRLM2Bgg/cal.png[/qimg]General assumption now seems to be Kaido had a different Jack back then and the current one was enlisted at some point later.
Looking back now, it did sounded like Jack and Shutenmaru had never met before their recent clash, so the possibility of a 1st Jack before him could be likely.
Also Jack had never met with Inu and Nelo
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Inu is the only Haki confirmation this time? That's disappointing
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New Booster Packs files, thanks to TalkOP. Lola bounty is 24,000,000 Berries!!
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Even though Ryuma's name on the card goes just by Ryuma, one of his epithets is "Sword God, Shimotsuki Ryuma".
Same Shimotsuki as in Shimotsuki Yasuie.
Also, Moria's defeat against Kaido happened on Wano when Moria was still a rookie, so I suppose the idea of them being rivals back then is not really accurate (on the other hand, Moria already had a 320,000,000 bounty before their fight, so he was a very impressive rookie).
@No:Inu is the only Haki confirmation this time? That's disappointing
Also, is Jack full 100% or only part fishman? Because he clearly doesn't look like one except for really his teethAccording to the card, 100%. It simply says "Giant Grouper Fishman" while Dellinger, for example, said "Half Fighting Fish Fishman"
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Zebra musketeer is Giovanni and fox musketeer is Koncelot.
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New Booster Packs files, thanks to TalkOP. Lola bounty is 24,000,000 Berries!!
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[qimg]https://images2.imgbox.com/a9/21/ebkH8DRN_o.jpg[/qimg]What is the names of the 3 musketeer squad?
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Does Moria have an epithet?
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Just glanced through, but apparently Jack's card doesn't have any mention about the fight against the Kozuki clan 20 years before. His time line only mention him joining the Beast Pirates and then becoming a Calamity among the past events and the card itself seem to focus on his role in the Zou arc and relationship with King, Queen and Kaidou.
Pedro confirmed having CoO and CoA. Carrot is 15.
The Edward "family" timeline mention Bakkin and Whitebeard traveling together.
Does Moria have an epithet?
Nop.
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FBI is gonna bust parts of the fandom
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FBI is gonna bust parts of the fandom
Too late for that, this has been a thing with one piece fans since chopper was introduced. At least it explains why oda's never had sanji or brook be creepy with carrot. Didn't stop the anime from having filler scenes where brook asks to see her panties of course.
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Huh… Come to think I about it, I'm honestly not sure i ever gave much thought to Carrot's age... Her "little sister" relationship with Chopper WOULD imply someone younger than his 17 years.
Doesn't change much in the Carrot4Nakama debate - at least for those of us trying to weigh her actual merits, ather than going "she's a girl so she's obviously (not) a real contender - but certainly interesting to note nonetheless.
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648 is an ex character and also Sanjuan Wolf.
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648 is an ex character and also Sanjuan Wolf
No, it's Arthur. He's a pirate who took part to Paramount war.
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No, it's Arthur. He's a pirate who took part to Paramount war.
SAn Juan Wolf is also 648, go back and look. There are 2 characters share that spot. We already anticipate this because, there were so many ex characters with such a limited space. I knew there would be an error somewhere.
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SAn Juan Wolf is also 648, go back and look. There are 2 characters share that spot. We already anticipate this because, there were so many ex characters with such a limited space. I knew there would be an error somewhere
Oh, my bad
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According to the card, 100%. It simply says "Giant Grouper Fishman" while Dellinger, for example, said "Half Fighting Fish Fishman"
This feels really retconned, Oda should've designed to be "less human"
Also, anything on Sheepshead being dead or alive?
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@No:
This feels really retconned, Oda should've designed to be "less human"
Also, anything on Sheepshead being dead or alive?
How is this a retcon, people have been wondering how Jack could breathe underwater, and him being a Fishman was the most obvious answer
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Doesn't change much in the Carrot4Nakama debate - at least for those of us trying to weigh her actual merits, ather than going "she's a girl so she's obviously (not) a real contender - but certainly interesting to note nonetheless.
Literally no one is discrediting Carrot joining because she's a girl.
They are discrediting the bias theory makers have because she's a girl.
@No:
This feels really retconned, Oda should've designed to be "less human"
Also, anything on Sheepshead being dead or alive?
A lot of Fishmen look pretty human outside of maybe skintone, it's not that big a stretch. Especially for a guy that was wearing a mask.
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If not from being blue and having webbed hands Jinbe could pass as a human.
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Also, Oars is a lot taller then what the magazine said he was. Like a hundred plus more feet taller.
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@.access:
Even though Ryuma's name on the card goes just by Ryuma, one of his epithets is "Sword God, Shimotsuki Ryuma".
Same Shimotsuki as in Shimotsuki Yasuie.
Also, Moria's defeat against Kaido happened on Wano when Moria was still a rookie, so I suppose the idea of them being rivals back then is not really accurate (on the other hand, Moria already had a 320,000,000 bounty before their fight, so he was a very impressive rookie).
So Moria became a warlord right after he lost to Kaido then
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@Kaido:
Jack is 28?
You're telling me he helped wage the attack on Wano at Momonosuke's age?
On one hand, it seems wrong, on the other hand, his little brother complex to Queen and King makes more sense, especially if they're a decade plus older than him.
Well, there's three options here. A. The vivre card messed up. B. There was another All-Star before Jack and he replaced him. C. He was one giant 8 year old.
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Literally no one is discrediting Carrot joining because she's a girl.
They are discrediting the bias theory makers have because she's a girl.
A fair distinction.
Not always a clearly communicated one, though. Can be a bit difficult to distinguish the "I don't think Carrot's a viable pick, because…" from the "Yet another fanboy jumping on the girl-of-the-week hype-train..." sometimes...
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I've only read 2 Carrot theories, so I might not be able to see the madness, but neither use the "we need more females" plea. I wouldn't even consider it a theory if it says that. It's more of a campaign. Basically campaign vs campaign if that's what you choose to go against.
Anyway, I need to verify that Yasuie, Toko, Ryuma's last name and the dojo's village share the Shimotsuki name or not. This sounds interesting if true.
Also, I wonder if Jack is a Wotan or just Fishman. The fish name suggest he's 100% fishman tho
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Not always a clearly communicated one, though. Can be a bit difficult to distinguish the "I don't think Carrot's a viable pick, because…" from the "Yet another fanboy jumping on the girl-of-the-week hype-train..." sometimes...
I've only read 2 Carrot theories, so I might not be able to see the madness, but neither use the "we need more females" plea.
No one comes out and SAYS "I want this character to join cause boobs." But it is consistently, for well over a decade and dozens of characters, a repeating pattern of "I like this character and will make theories based on the tiniest on details, to fanfic a theory of why they could join", in such a way that basically never gets applied to male characters except as a joke. Also never to "ugly" girls like Lola or Shinobu.
But for years at a time literally any single panel a female character of the month is in, be it a small throwaway joke or an action beat, is then blown up and exaggerated into overwhelming proof. Even if another character had literally just as many moments or scenes, or if a more minor character is actually able to demonstrably have even more impact in a shorter time, or if there's multiple other characters with their exact same skill set and traits. Combined with a constant insistence on ignoring any and all counterpoints and well.. it gets old. SUper simple extremely straightforward non-trick questions can be asked about the character that then get avoided because actually answering them would destroy the theory. Be it Perona or Caimie or Margaritte or Hancock or Arlong's sister or Shirahoshi or Monet or Viola or Rebecce or Carrot or Tama or whatever, it is an endless streak.
The nature of the theories, and the specific non-details that are picked up on and pushed as evidence, followed by the speculation of "well if the story bent itself over backwards to accommodate this it could happen" those are really consistent and you see the pattern after a while as long as you aren't personally rooting for the character. The arguments based on their non-moments aren't compelling or convincing, just lengthy and enthusiastic. Generally when identical arguments can be made for Eyelashes the Camel the argument isn't actually that strong.
The only male characters in the last 12 years to get anywhere near the same kind of traction were Kinemon and Bart, and they had significant screen time and presence. (And Kinemon was clearly not happening the moment we saw a second Wano citizen and fully got the gag of his design, and Bart was always given equal billing with Cavendish, so that wasn't happening either.)
Compare to Jinbe who had a weird design not a lot of people liked and was seen as boring, but had an incredibly compelling and convincing argument in terms of narrative, situation, foreshadowing, and build up for him before he even appeared on camera.
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So, with this Shimotsuki Ryuma, could Toko be the legitimate heir of Wano's greatest swordsman?
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How is this a retcon, people have been wondering how Jack could breathe underwater, and him being a Fishman was the most obvious answer
I just don't like how he's supposed to be a fishman, yet doesn't resemble one save for his mouth. It doesn't make sense to me.
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@No:
I just don't like how he's supposed to be a fishman, yet doesn't resemble one save for his mouth. It doesn't make sense to me.
Sure that's fine, but it isn't a retcon.
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Remember the times when Monet was alive and was going to join. Good ol’ days.
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