Really disappointed by that chapter. Seriously, that was Ousen's master plan ? The praise he's been getting in that chapter for that "prediction" pissed me off.
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Ousen is a terrible general. Literally the worst general I've seen thus far. He's yet to show tactical nuance or individual strength. Even his own captains, trying desperately to understand him are suppressed by the sycophants under him. I can't wait for his eventual end.
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Ousen is a terrible general. Literally the worst general I've seen thus far. He's yet to show tactical nuance or individual strength. Even his own captains, trying desperately to understand him are suppressed by the sycophants under him. I can't wait for his eventual end.
Well according to history,
! Ousen (Wang jian) is among the few of the greatest lived in that generation along with Li Mu and Lian Po (Riboku and Renpa respectively). So I highly doubt that he will go down soon. While I agree that Riboku has showed more tactical prowess thus far, this is Ousen's arc to shine.
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Well according to history,
! Ousen (Wang jian) is among the few of the greatest lived in that generation along with Li Mu and Lian Po (Riboku and Renpa respectively). So I highly doubt that he will go down soon. While I agree that Riboku has showed more tactical prowess thus far, this is Ousen's arc to shine.
! I know what history says, but he's yet to show that within this story. And let's not forget that he's actually a traitor.
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He hasn't really been in a situation where he needs to show either of those much, so far.
Guess we'll see what Hara's capacity is.
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Oh, just went to check out of pure boredom.
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! At last not getting rid of the Gakuei army is coming back to bite Qin's heels. I'm glad this part is consistent, what with all the emphasis previously put on OMFG WE'RE SO DESPERATE, NEED TO KILL ONE GENERAL EACH DAY!!!1111 The narration sounds like Ouhon might really not make it now, I'm curious to see how it plays out.
The Qin army badly needs to rank in some achievements if they're going to win this battle, though. They were desperate and outnumbered to start with and the awakening part was bad enough as it is, but if on top of that and all the starvation hype they manage to lose Ouhon and his unit, any form of victory will only feel like a gigantic asspull :getlost: -
Shin noticed and will come to masacre this dude as promised
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! Dont forget about ousen @Seafarer33:
! At last not getting rid of the Gakuei army is coming back to bite Qin's heels. I'm glad this part is consistent, what with all the emphasis previously put on OMFG WE'RE SO DESPERATE, NEED TO KILL ONE GENERAL EACH DAY!!!1111 The narration sounds like Ouhon might really not make it now, I'm curious to see how it plays out.
The Qin army badly needs to rank in some achievements if they're going to win this battle, though. They were desperate and outnumbered to start with and the awakening part was bad enough as it is, but if on top of that and all the starvation hype they manage to lose Ouhon and his unit, any form of victory will only feel like a gigantic asspull :getlost: -
I don't, but I'm assuming he would have his hands full with Riboku and the more-or-less intact Zhao center. He may have a plan, but does he have the means to carry it out right now?
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I guess that would work, keeping his "son" as bait for Zhao while he knows what they want to do and waits in ambush risking his son in the process
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I wish he'd just stop with these Instinctual vs Strategical comparisons as if it's a rock-paper-scissors RPG. Really dumbing things down to basement level.
Even Shin going like "I can't read him, what's going on?". Just stahp.
Otherwise it's executed pretty good. If you disregard the fact someone out of the entire army should have seen Gyoun going back behind the lines, but OK, that's a lot easier to swallow.
Cutting some corners again!
Still can't wait to see what happens, though. :happy:
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I wish he'd just stop with these Instinctual vs Strategical comparisons as if it's a rock-paper-scissors RPG. Really dumbing things down to basement level.
All the more when Mrs Strategist Girl is supposed to compensate for Shin's tactical dumbness. The Hi Shin are really fortunate that she's here to…sit back and comment? :ninja:
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She is the most annoying character ever all other generals are making their decisions and leave some flanks or minor to their subordinates but no shin thevdumbass is the only one who doesn't there ten is the leader of the planning get out
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! I think Shin will come and save them here, if Kanjou was gonna die it'd probably be in this chapter.
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@Oga:
! I think Shin will come and save them here, if Kanjou was gonna die it'd probably be in this chapter.
! Not so sure. Similar thing happened with Katari, and he still died.
! Not to mention Shin already saved one of Ouhon's captains in the last possible moment in this campaign. And Gyoun failed couple of times already.
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! Yeah but Katari had already been stabbed by the end of the chapter. Completely forgot about Shin saving Banyou(it was him right?) so yeah that would be a bit repetitive.
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Why are you hiding your Text as spoiler?
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Courtesy, in case people haven't read the chapter yet.
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Why are you hiding your Text as spoiler?
Just a common courtesy to give those who haven't read the chapter yet a chance to not get spoiled.
Or at least I do it with that purpose.
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If anything I expect Ouhon to turn back, putting himself more at risk.
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Well, couple of chapters ago it was said that Ouhan would be defeated. If likes of Kanjou doesn't die and Ouhan manages to get away, then Ouhan pretty much win( other than losing some ground).
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Well, couple of chapters ago it was said that Ouhan would be defeated. If likes of Kanjou doesn't die and Ouhan manages to get away, then Ouhan pretty much win( other than losing some ground).
Not neccesarily, he's losing his best men and the losses are going to grow. No food, further stalling of precious time, strength withering away.
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Yeah but Katari had already been stabbed by the end of the chapter. Completely forgot about Shin saving Banyou(it was him right?) so yeah that would be a bit repetitive.
It's just that it wasn't so obvious that it was actually him that got stabbed there. There was still some chance that he avoided it in last moment.
Yeah, it was Banyou.
Found it silly that Kanyou is just standing there with his arms out, not even taking up a defensive pose. If there's anyone saving him, it's Ouhon. Maybe he pays the price and gets wounded enough to have to pull out of the fighting for the remainder of the battle. The battle itself shouldn't last much longer since Qin provisions are near the end.
Speaking of provisions, that part has been a little silly to me. The army shouldn't be in danger of starving as long as they still have horses.
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Sense did a group release for their 8th anniversary so it didn't show up on the front page, but Chapter's out.
! Guess this is Ouhon's "defeat" that was teased a while ago. Not a bad chapter, but not a good one either (the choregraphy isn't wonderful, and I can't help but feel amused whenever a blow is so strong that it breaks some poor horse's legs) Waiting to see what comes next.
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Thanks for the heads up and link! Much appreciated. I liked the chapter and development
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http://sensescans.com/reader/read/kingdom/en/54/587/page/1
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http://sensescans.com/reader/read/kingdom/en/54/587/page/1
Being a brother in this series is like being a mom in one piece.That was actually funny.
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Didn't they like ran out of food yesterday?
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Didn't they like ran out of food yesterday?
They did, but it seems those soldiers can run 3 days on a handfull of rice :getlost:. I have this disagreable impression that every once in a while we're reminded how critical food shortage and a quick victory are, only to shrug it off right afterwards and throw in another couple days of battle.
Aside from Gaku'ei (or whatever his name, the secondary guy Shin cleaved in two), Quin's sole achievement has been to take Gyo'un's right arm. Even the asspulled awakening didn't amount to much and now they're pretty much fighting on an empty stomach with the Gyoku Ou severely crippled.
Unless we eventually learn that Ousen manipulated food reports and the besieged city fell a couple days ago (which would force Zhao to retreat), I have an increasingly hard time picturing an acceptable way out of this situation. -
i actually like this development very much. Ouhon and shin were on equal terms. and now that ouhon is incapisitated it seems like shin can actually take charge of the right flank. seems like the perfect opertunity to show what shin can do, but also the highly underated ten. she can now actually push her battle plan now that ouhon is not there to be the strategist of higher rank. Shins army is pushed very hard, so i think it opens up a lot of possibilities for cross attacks to other armys.
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Ouhon and shin were on equal terms. and now that ouhon is incapisitated it seems like shin can actually take charge of the right flank. seems like the perfect opertunity to show what shin can do, but also the highly underated ten.
I do like that part as well, but maybe there's been too much emphasis on the desperate aspect of their situation for it to play out smoothly. I want Shin and Ten to prove themselves and achieve something big, but with these odds it will take a lot to convince me that they've truly earned their victory.
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well only the commanders are actually taken out, in numbers of total soldiers its still not a dire situation. its now on who has the best command. and here shin and ten can show that they are up to the task. Also the awakening of ouhons troups has not gon away. shin can still play on the pride and loyalty of ouhons army to achieve victory.heck the rivalry between the units is so big, if shin can exploit that they dont really need ouhon physically. Shins army is allready in an advantagous position, this is a result of the risky play made by shou army that had not the result the desired i think. and it will bite them in the ass the the coming days
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I don't get this food thing at all. Everything else is good and nice but the food thing is just messed up
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Kingdom Live Action International Trailer
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I'm usually not much into live action adaptations, but their trailers never fail to entertain :wub:
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New Preview for upcoming Kingdom live-adaptation movie:
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New chapter out!
http://sensescans.com/reader/read/kingdom/en/54/588/page/1
! Biological warfare! It's nice that Hara decided to cover the horse issue, even a little.
! Was that an actual reaction from Ousen!? Even made a sound and everything! :ninja:
! Figures spies were planted among the refugees. Think the possibility was even discussed here. Might have even been me, can't remember. -
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! Good thing Hara adressed the horse topic. Feeling kinda frustrated, however, that it took a whole chapter to not even get a hint on Shin's plan (which is…what exactly ? Make me commander and things will improve magically ? Did he even come up with anything resembling a strategy ?). At least hearing from the infiltrators gives something to chew on while the main battle goes on and on and on and on.
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New chapter out!
http://sensescans.com/reader/read/kingdom/en/54/588/page/1
! Biological warfare! It's nice that Hara decided to cover the horse issue, even a little.
! Was that an actual reaction from Ousen!? Even made a sound and everything! :ninja:
! Figures spies were planted among the refugees. Think the possibility was even discussed here. Might have even been me, can't remember.! Well, technically, I believe it would probably be chemical warfare rather than biological. It seems to be some kind of poison powder rather than some sickness…
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! Well, technically, I believe it would probably be chemical warfare rather than biological. It seems to be some kind of poison powder rather than some sickness…
It depends on how the poison was made I suppose. If it was made from some plants or fungus, it's still biological. Of course, haven't really thought about it much when I wrote that. Was mostly thinking of contaminated horse meat.
But thanks for correcting me, I guess…
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It depends on how the poison was made I suppose. If it was made from some plants or fungus, it's still biological. Of course, haven't really thought about it much when I wrote that. Was mostly thinking of contaminated horse meat.
But thanks for correcting me, I guess…
No problem, it's always a pleasure to bring some pedantry to other people's lives!
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Ok so fire fire less food. I am surprised they still had loads more anyway didnt they take like million refugees etc. On the other hand again the drama from the little girl. Oh god heh. And the opposition will finish this and now everything will finally be settled. Well still love kingdom but come on already
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So, there any place I can read this series from the start? It's caught my interest but I dunno that I want to go in on the physical release sight unseen.
Also, I head the anime adaption is terrible. Is it actually terrible, or just animated in bad CG? Because I can watch it while I work and not be too offput by the look of a thing, long as I'm getting the story.
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So, there any place I can read this series from the start? It's caught my interest but I dunno that I want to go in on the physical release sight unseen.
Also, I head the anime adaption is terrible. Is it actually terrible, or just animated in bad CG? Because I can watch it while I work and not be too offput by the look of a thing, long as I'm getting the story.
The anime is a fair adaptation, but skips some arcs.
Previous scans should be easy to find.
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The anime, while not great, is not that bad to get started (S2 being better than S1 if I remember).
As for the scans, Mangadex has everything I think.
Just beware of the early scans where the names can be confusing (the early scans were using the chinese names).
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What, no love for Kingdom? It's been out almost a week.
These guys on Zhao side are so obviously gonna fall on their asses. Nice big cocky speeches.