Dogtooth has a 1 billion bounty. Luffy hashis strength and a strong crew, strong alliances and a big fleet. If Dogtooth is 1billion there's nothing crazy to Luffy being worth more considering he has much more assets than Dogtooth.
I guess what I'm attempting to say is that it doesn't sit well with me with Luffy's bounty being inflated partially because of Morgans' partially inaccurate news reporting. The dude… tends to hype stuff up a little too much. Haha.
I think Luffy bounty fine considering his previous bounty was too low.
Not sure if this has been conjectured, but since Hawkins can predict the percentage chance of an outcome (Luffy and Co. having a 19% chance of surviving the month), and possibly resents his current predicament, maybe he and Apoo will release Kidd and join the Mugiwara/Heart pirates in taking down Kaido, having seen that the outcome is likely or assured.
Not sure if this has been conjectured, but since Hawkins can predict the percentage chance of an outcome (Luffy and Co. having a 19% chance of surviving the month), and possibly resents his current predicament, maybe he and Apoo will release Kidd and join the Mugiwara/Heart pirates in taking down Kaido, having seen that the outcome is likely or assured.
I've said this before and I fully agree. Hawkins' first words when encountering Luffy and Zoro were: "In Wano, you either follow the strongest or hide for your survival", or something like that. This prediction ability is a great tool of survival in cases like these because it allows you to just choose the side which grants you the better odds. There's one weakness, an obvious one, though: when odds are not 1 - 0, there's always a risk of losing, after all. Now, will Hawkins be willing to take that risk, siding with whoever has the highest percentage? Or will he put his faith in Luffy, who he knows since Sabaody/Marine Ford has a lucky star?
If X drake was former rear admiral and we saw marines use CP9 techniques, then imagine giant t rex doing Soru and geppou! And he already has armaments of haki too…
Or T rex doing that finger pistol thing, or rankyaku.
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Or T rex doing that finger pistol thing, or rankyaku.
Yeah, that's why it would be funny to see him do it.
I guess what I'm attempting to say is that it doesn't sit well with me with Luffy's bounty being inflated partially because of Morgans' partially inaccurate news reporting. The dude… tends to hype stuff up a little too much. Haha.
Think about how much Luffy has done that they either have no idea about or which they themselves swept under the rug. It fits that he's got to be worth more than the guy he just beat since he's in a position of leadership and has way more influence.
Think about how much Luffy has done that they either have no idea about or which they themselves swept under the rug. It fits that he's got to be worth more than the guy he just beat since he's in a position of leadership and has way more influence.
It's interesting to see you say that, because I've seen people say that Luffy would have been justified having a 1 billion bounty right after Dressrosa, on top of his actions in the pre-timeskip and him being revealed to be the son of the most wanted man in the world, he had defeated Doflamingo and had gained a fleet the government didn't know about yet.
It's interesting to see you say that, because I've seen people say that Luffy would have been justified having a 1 billion bounty right after Dressrosa, on top of his actions in the pre-timeskip and him being revealed to be the most wanted man in the world, he had defeated Doflamingo and had gained a fleet the government didn't know about yet.
I'm one of those. No matter what bounty Doflamingo's was frozen at, his power and influence merited it being much higher, ergo Luffy's defeating him then AND revealing all of his connections with the Revolutionary Sabo and his fleet being established happening at the same time, should have netted him 1B easy. The fact that it didn't happen makes this 1.5B total all the more satisfying and hardly disputable.
Luffy's bounty after Dressrosa should have been at least around 800. Luffy's accomplishmebts have been undermined quite often.
The difference is that Morgans, even though he hyped Luffy's accomplishments, on paper what he did was not only unprecedented, but beyond what each and every rookie/supernova had achieved to that point.
Law went with the government, the others attempted to infiltrate but ended up as underlings of the emperors.
Luffy infiltrated Big Mom territory, all the way to her headquarters and escaped. He was in part one of the masterminds behind the assassination, and took the most visually expository role of the entire plan. "Technically" exploded Mama's castle. Escaped from 3-5 fleets. Then you have the news that 5600 men are under his banner.
In my mind what Morgans was saying was that Luffy was an emperor in the making, hence the appearance of the 5th emperor.
I don't know though.
I completely get that point of it being "inflated" because of falsely attributing things like the Tamate Box explosion, the alliance of Germa and the Firetanks to him specifically.
But then again it may not be that inflated, or too off to say he deserves to be mentioned in the same sentence as people like Teach and Kaido.
Remember, the bounty is about the evaluation of how much the Government is willing to pay to get this dangerous criminal. It's a meter of how many fucks they give.
Even taking out the aspects Morgans claimed was Luffy's doing, when you look at Luffy's track record of upturning entire countries when he visits them, it does make a bit of sense.
If we remember when Luffy got his first bounty, it was decided with a large group of Marines including Commodores and Vice Admirals. So if we're assuming it's their perspective going into deciding these numbers, they're looking at this man that keeps getting strong allies(this rookie got Whitebeard, Crocodile, Iva, and Jimbei to help him out. A kid did this), keeps fucking up the status quo wherever he goes(The WG Trifecta he fucked up between Enies Lobby and the War), has taken down multiple Warlords, directly hurting the balance of powers.
So while the newspaper is hyping Luffy up, I don't know if that's exactly influencing the bounty number itself. Since the timeskip Luffy has fucked this balance up even further and only in a few short months at the most. Since he's been back he allied with one Warlord that lost his position as a result, beat another one which crippled a huge criminal empire and embarrassed the Government as a result, then goes and screw with an Emperor.
I'd say the evaluation is looking at his progress in a short amount of time more so than Morgans report with this. The other Supernova have done bad things, but Luffy has directly upset the balance of powers more than anyone, and is the only one that directly attacked all three of the World Government's main strongholds. From their perspective, he probably comes off as the most dangerous to them specifically.
@Kaido:
Trebol is Paramecia and Radio Knife specifically prevents cut people from being put back together for a time
Thanks for the explanation, btw I knew that, the point was that we didn't know radio knife existed before having seen that.
The whole monet thing was just hyping zoro in my opinion. He didn't hurt her, he just messed her up to avoid the fight and still get over it
So is this is the last chapter where Tama's going to be in danger from the sickness because I dont want it to happen but I could see "oh no we dont have this grass can you get some" and then that taking 3-4 chapters but I doubt that will happen. More important "where in the world is Trafalgar Sandiego"
Chapter 437 Discussion after franky decides to join the Strawhats:
So who think Usopp is inside that duffelbag?
H x H Chimera Ant Arc / OP Manga Spoiler
Spoiler:
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So is this is the last chapter where Tama's going to be in danger from the sickness because I dont want it to happen but I could see "oh no we dont have this grass can you get some" and then that taking 3-4 chapters…
This type of stalling is Oda's specialty.
Throw some back it's gonna be a long one.
Hoping we get a nice, solid chapter this week (another Calamity reveal…or something...please...Oda) due to the weird schedule in recent weeks (break, chapter, break), but I know that's not how things work, nor do I expect them to work in such ways (especially since we really just started the arc).
Probably get some Luffy/Zoro teahouse shenanigans, maybe some Bepo and company. Or we will just flash to somewhere else on Wano with another Strawhat member/group.
I'd love a really tense tearoom scene where everyone's on their knees having tea and conversation, only Luffy and Zoro are kind of frozen in place like they've stepped on one of Miss Goldenweek's paint traps and they've got to grit their teeth and can only tremble with anger while stuck in place as they listen to whoever's there laying down the terms or giving them info they don't want to have to deal with. Bonus points if they're forced to be polite and sip tea and compliment its quality even if they're hating it.
I'd love a really tense tearoom scene where everyone's on their knees having tea and conversation, only Luffy and Zoro are kind of frozen in place like they've stepped on one of Miss Goldenweek's paint traps and they've got to grit their teeth and can only tremble with anger while stuck in place as they listen to whoever's there laying down the terms or giving them info they don't want to have to deal with. Bonus points if they're forced to be polite and sip tea and compliment its quality even if they're hating it.
Or even an homage to the classic gag when Chopper started giving Franky random beverages from the refridgerator on Enies Lobby, one of them being green tea, which made Franky turn into a laid-back farmer who wanted to sit and talk.
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Hoping we get a nice, solid chapter this week (another Calamity reveal…or something...please...Oda) due to the weird schedule in recent weeks (break, chapter, break), but I know that's not how things work, nor do I expect them to work in such ways (especially since we really just started the arc).
Probably get some Luffy/Zoro teahouse shenanigans, maybe some Bepo and company. Or we will just flash to somewhere else on Wano with another Strawhat member/group.
Most likely we will switch to Sanji or Kinemon Group.
Or even an homage to the classic gag when Chopper started giving Franky random beverages from the refridgerator on Enies Lobby, one of them being green tea, which made Franky turn into a laid-back farmer who wanted to sit and talk.
I completely forgot about that, that shit was hilarious lmao 
rereading Enies lobby, I'm starting Nami vs Kalifa. And immediately I thought about those who complained about Hawkins speech.
@Long:
So is this is the last chapter where Tama's going to be in danger from the sickness because I dont want it to happen but I could see "oh no we dont have this grass can you get some" and then that taking 3-4 chapters but I doubt that will happen. More important "where in the world is Trafalgar Sandiego"
Hold your horse,,, O Tama's sickness is plot device, so that luffy could get to to see the woman of the tea house.
Next, something good will happen…..
Wait, this is not harem, i forgot.
Hold your horse,,, O Tama's sickness is plot device,
Isn't everything in prose a plot device? Otherwise, it's just rambling. It's gotta keep moving!
I'm really hoping we get more action back to back this arc before even gets to the climax. I hope we can get some fights vs Kaido's crew or Hawkins or X-Drake that are good brawls instead of the detours. I love the world building but I think it can be done well during combat with proper dialogue, I understand Otama will become important but I hope something like the sickness interrupting the fight isn't a continuing thing.
This arc is gonna be too long not to have a pre final fight with luffy like dressrosa / whole cake / alabasta had.
Hold your horse,,, O Tama's sickness is plot device, so that luffy could get to to see the woman of the tea house.
Next, something good will happen…..
Wait, this is not harem, i forgot.
Ofc it's a plot device. It is Oda's way to introduce us to the circumstances in Wano, the condition in which the people live & we will probably see the factories and impact on the land. It is a trigger for the Sh's to want to destroy the factories and everything that Kaidou build for the sake of the country.
Or even an homage to the classic gag when Chopper started giving Franky random beverages from the refridgerator on Enies Lobby, one of them being green tea, which made Franky turn into a laid-back farmer who wanted to sit and talk.
LOL, that entire Enies Lobby thing with Franky made me fall head-over-heels for him as a character, starting with him beating Nero on the train. Hands-down my favorite character, though I'm not overly pleased with his new design. Still, I'm never using any other character for my username.
