Brook got his first color spread and Eighth Person title for the last chapter of Thriller Bark. Chapter 489. It was the chapter right after his flashback and Binks' Sake sing-a-long party. He presents his bounty and attends the Rumbar Pirates/Yubashiri funeral with Zoro.
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And Franky got his official Strawhat spread before the fighting against CP9 even started, like a year and a half before he joined. (And the anime ruined Robin joining by putting her in the opening like 4 episodes early.)
Since next chapter is a color spread at the end/start of the arc, with Jinbe all but joined (or joining next chapter) hopefully it'll show the whole crew, and only the crew, and that can hopefully settle this nonsense somewhat.
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I hope my signature won't be unexpectedly proven wrong in a few chapters. Seriously, Carrot's gonna join? That would contradict so much of how he handled those things before. Jinbe joining should be enough.
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And Franky got his official Strawhat spread before the fighting against CP9 even started, like a year and a half before he joined. (And the anime ruined Robin joining by putting her in the opening like 4 episodes early.)
Since next chapter is a color spread at the end/start of the arc, with Jinbe all but joined (or joining next chapter) hopefully it'll show the whole crew, and only the crew, and that can hopefully settle this nonsense somewhat.
That´s what i was hoping for yes, forgot about Franky
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@Galaxy:
Jinbe is socializing with the crew and playing along with their antics. He fits in perfectly, as expected.
Carrot is just "there".
Honnestly that sounds extremely subjectively biased :-)
Carrot was able to wake up luffy a few minutes after he went sleeping exhausted from an extremely long fight. That’s not being just here. It’s a huge accomplishment non of the strawhat were able to do yet. -
@.access:
Jinbe also failed to keep the distance they gained from Smoothie, allowing her to hit the Sunny and Daifuku's genie to reach them, because he left his post to look on Luffy. This was not supposed to read as the member failing to fulfill their job, but showing Luffy is their priority.
Yes, of course this specific scene in the chapter is them caring about Luffy.
But people keep clamoring on that her lookout ability is "amazing", when she's only said the things that other Straw Hats have also said. "Look out! Ship ahead! Here they come!" K. Kira posted two pages from previous chapters where she failed at this "job" as well, and there was no Luffy there to distract them.
Jinbe primarily got his showing as a helmsman with the Green Room. There is no debate or argument anymore that he won't join. Carrot, on the other hand, has not shown how her "Look out!" skills are vital to the sailing of this ship. How is she the "best" person for the position? Where is her "oompf" moment where the crew realizes that she is "The best lookout"?
Nevermind the necessity of the role being a rotating role, as said earlier. Nobody seemed to care about that point, but everybody on the ship needs to sleep, hence the current rotation in the lookout role.
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It took Jinbe 4 arcs to show how special his helmsman abilities were. While Carrot will need to show it at some point if she is really intended to join the SH, it's not like it has to be now.
Btw, you just brought an interesting point about they having to rotate the lookout because everyone has to sleep at some point. I was curious what was the point of Oda stating that Carrot and Wanda were the only Minks that could stay awake the whole day… :ninja:
Also, it's not like lookout is the only position that needs to be performed 100% of the time. Navigator and helmsman do too and that is not keeping Nami and Jinbe from filling those specific roles even if at some point of the day someone will have to replace them as they rest. -
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It took Jinbe 4 arcs to show how special his helmsman abilities were. While Carrot will need to show it at some point if she is really intended to join the SH, it's not like it has to be now.
Impel down -> Marineford -> Fishman island -> Punk hazard -> Dressrosa -> Zou -> WCI
It's the 7th arc after his first appearance in which he shows his special helmsman skills. Meanwhile, in Carrot's second chapter:
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We can't really count PH, Dressrosa and Zou, though. He didn't took part in those.
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@.access:
It took Jinbe 4 arcs to show how special his helmsman abilities were. While Carrot will need to show it at some point if she is really intended to join the SH, it's not like it has to be now.
This goes to show that overall, the role of the joiner is not the "deciding factor". Jinbe had everything else going for him before he fell into the Helmsman role.
Btw, you just brought an interesting point about they having to rotate the lookout because everyone has to sleep at some point. I was curious what was the point of Oda stating that Carrot and Wanda were the only Minks that could stay awake the whole day… :ninja:
It's because it's most commonly rotated between characters, in this series, in other works of fiction, and in real life.
I really doubt she can stay up forever. If the argument that some have presented that "anything can happen in the matter of seconds", she would need to be on lookout forever if that was her designated role.
Also, it's not like lookout is the only position that needs to be performed 100% of the time. Navigator and helmsman do too and that is not keeping Nami and Jinbe from filling those specific roles even if at some point of the day someone will have to replace them as they rest.
They don't need to be performed 100% of the time, though. Nami sets the ship on course, and is always there to predict a storm or other problem that could hurt the ship. Likewise, Jinbe will always be there to take command of the wheel if there's a circumstance like the Green Room again.
What kind of situation can realistically be created for a lookout that requires it to be "one person"?
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Meanwhile, in Carrot's second chapter:
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Then, in Carrot's third chapter and beyond in the Zou Arc, she faded into the background and was not important.
I like how Franky points out how her jumping is just what the Minks as a whole are capable of, too.
Also, Jinbe helmed the ship from Impel Down to Marineford. That's where the initial theories that he would be the helmsman came from. And yes, that definitely counts if we're counting generic "look out! A ship is in front of you!" conversations.
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@Galaxy:
They don't need to be performed 100% of the time, though. Nami sets the ship on course, and is always there to predict a storm or other problem that could hurt the ship. Likewise, Jinbe will always be there to take command of the wheel if there's a circumstance like the Green Room again.
What? How many times did Oda drill it into our heads that the grandline waters change at a moment's notice? You can't leave the ship alone for too long or you'll end up completely off course.
Also, I doubt Nami can sense storms in her sleep.
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@Galaxy:
Also, Jinbe helmed the ship from Impel Down to Marineford. That's where the initial theories that he would be the helmsman came from. And yes, that definitely counts if we're counting generic "look out! A ship is in front of you!" conversations.
Obviously those count, that's the whole point the Carrot supporters keep trying to make clear - equaling Carrot current feats as lookout to Jinbe's as helmsman prior to this arc. The ones denying the similarities are those going against her.
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What? How many times did Oda drill it into our heads that the grandline waters change at a moment's notice? You can't leave the ship alone for too long or you'll end up completely off course.
And that's why she's constantly checking on it, and not active 100% of the time. Even when she was sick during Drum, she couldn't rest because she had to be there.
But thanks for reminding me of yet another "oompf" moment that another Straw Hat has gotten regarding their position.
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Also, I doubt Nami can sense storms in her sleep.
And that's why there are rotating lookouts on the ship, because everybody needs to sleep.
No role can be active "100% of the time", but when she's needed. she's there. She has to be there. A lookout can be filled by anybody who is awake.
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@.access:
Obviously those count, that's the whole point the Carrot supporters keep trying to make clear - equaling Carrot current feats as lookout to Jinbe's as helmsman prior to this arc. The ones denying the similarities are those going against her.
I deny the true equivalence of the similarities because there's a difference between the random dialogue I posted, that everybody who stands in the crow's nest, or stands on lookout anywhere on the ship can say, and an actual ship role that has the one person capable of handling the difficult situations. We had a few times before where a proper helmsman would've made their lives easier, but they were able to manage. We have never had a problem where "if only somebody had been a designated lookout" was applicable.
Nobody else on the ship can detect a storm by feeling the air. "Natural Navigator"
Nobody else on the ship is capable of properly steering through phenomenons like the Green Room. "Natural Helmsman"Think of the ridiculousness of "nobody else could have looked out for that so well!" What situation can be created for that to be an "oompf" moment?
If Carrot had a true moment in the 20 or so chapters that we've been sailing around Totto Land, that indicated that she was the only person capable of "looking out!", I might be inclined to see a path to her being a Straw Hat. As long as she got more proper development, that is.
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It's not about being the only one capable. It's about having that special capability for it. Nami can cook but doesn't do it all the time. Franky has done most of the steering up to now. People take turns as lookout. But when new crewmates who specialize in those skills show up, it makes their lives easier. Usopp didn't habe to keep making makeshift repairs once Franky came aboard, he could concentrate on his own projects like the new weapons for himself and Nami.
And those jobs can still be filled in by others as needed: Franky can still steer if Jinbe's needed elsewhere, and more than one person can help out as extra lookouts. Just because Carrot would be the most capale doesn't mean she couldn't use help sometimes like with any other job.
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It's not about being the only one capable. It's about having that special capability for it.
It really is about the one person who can do it best, though. Every Straw Hat with a traditional ship role knocks the others out of the park when it comes to performing their duty. What special capability does Carrot bring to the role of lookout inside of the crow's nest?
Nami can cook but doesn't do it all the time.
She had to cook when Sanji wasn't on the ship on the way to Totto Land. Otherwise, it's his specialty. It was a major point that without Sanji, the crew would eventually be screwed. He has the knowledge to know whether or not something is safe to eat, or safe to cook, and the crew was scrambling to find out that information when they caught the hot sea fish. It almost got Luffy "killed".
Look at Chiffon's words in the current chapter. He is the best. Nobody on the ship can do it as well as him.
Look at Vivi's words when Nami detected the storm with no real warning. She is the best person for the job. Nobody else on the ship can do it as well as her.
Look at the crew's words when Jinbe flawlessly led them through the green room. He is the best person for the job. Nobody else on the ship was capable of doing it so flawlessly.
Franky has done most of the steering up to now. People take turns as lookout.
But when new crewmates who specialize in those skills show up, it makes their lives easier.She doesn't specialize in it any more than anybody else that has done the job, though. She hasn't brought anything new to the role of lookout that other characters are not capable of. "Jumping high" doesn't fill in that gap. A situation needs to exist where the character is the best at the job.
Just something along the lines of "she's so good at what she does." A comment from someone, a true depiction that her lookout skills surpass all others, anything.
Usopp didn't habe to keep making makeshift repairs once Franky came aboard, he could concentrate on his own projects like the new weapons for himself and Nami.
The role of shipwright and the role of lookout on a ship are very different, though. One is a dedicated role that has the person most experienced performing maintenance on the ship. The other is a job that multiple others have done perfectly for the entire series, with no issues existing for the crew otherwise.
Usopp was fine at the time for patching up the Merry, but he wasn't anywhere close to the best possible person for the job. I've always imagined that if the crew had Franky from the start, the Going Merry could've made it further than Water 7, because he would've done proper ship repairs instead of just boarding it up.
And those jobs can still be filled in by others as needed: Franky can still steer if Jinbe's needed elsewhere, and more than one person can help out as extra lookouts. Just because Carrot would be the most capale doesn't mean she couldn't use help sometimes like with any other job.
I have no doubt that we will primarily see Jinbe steering the ship from here on out. Usopp is still "capable" of patching up the ship, but we're only ever shown Franky taking care of stuff like that. Nami can cook, but Sanji is most experienced, and it's why he takes care of it on screen 99% of the time.
If the entire crew is still rotating in to take over the lookout role, then what's the point of bringing on a member that so far, has no real special ability in it?
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@Galaxy:
If the entire crew is still rotating in to take over the lookout role, then what's the point of bringing on a member that so far, has no real special ability in it?
That's the whole point we're making here: The whole crew ISN'T rotating to take over the lookout role anymore. Carrot is the singular lookout of the Sunny.
And I don't know why you keep dismissing her being able to jump ridiculously high as a special ability that helps her be the lookout. She has used that ability for that exact purpose to great effect before.
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I still don't get why people are putting all their hopes on Carrot on her just being the lookout, when there's still Usopp. You know, the master sniper. Who can see really far.
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That's the whole point we're making here: The whole crew ISN'T rotating to take over the lookout role anymore. Carrot is the singular lookout of the Sunny.
And I don't know why you keep dismissing her being able to jump ridiculously high as a special ability that helps her be the lookout. She has used that ability for that exact purpose to great effect before.
Except for Brook in this chapter?
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And how about everybody directing Jinbe on the cannonball locations in Chapter 894?
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And Nami in 892?
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And Chopper in Chapter 888?
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And Chopper with Carrot in 886?
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Cue the "reporting what's going on" isn't what being a lookout is, though.
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And I don't know why you keep dismissing her being able to jump ridiculously high as a special ability that helps her be the lookout. She has used that ability for that exact purpose to great effect before.
Because this is a Shonen manga where "jumping high" isn't some special ability.
If she is in the Crow's nest, how does jumping high help at that point?
Where is the "oomfph" moment of "She was able to do this better than all of us"?
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@S.C.:
I still don't get why people are putting all their hopes on Carrot on her just being the lookout, when there's still Usopp. You know, the master sniper. Who can see really far.
Disregard the whole Lookout thing, and her overall portrayal alone is a major negative.
Apparently "jumping high" adds to it, though.
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@S.C.:
I still don't get why people are putting all their hopes on Carrot on her just being the lookout, when there's still Usopp. You know, the master sniper. Who can see really far.
But you just said what his actual position is though. Honestly, it's whatever, I personally have no intention of arguing in circles. I do agree that it's pretty hard to ignore that they keep putting her up there though.
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But you just said what his actual position is though.
Yeah, and he can also be look-out, too. Since, again, he can see really far. Which is apparently the big hook for Carrot.
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Carrot has been depicted looking far through binoculars. They're a non-natural device that has helped other Straw Hats to see far, as well.
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@S.C.:
Which is apparently the big hook for Carrot.
I don't believe anyone said this. Topic just happened to (once again) be about what her position is.
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I don't believe anyone said this. Topic just happened to (once again) be about what her position is.
It is one of the bigger hooks that people have focused on. Every time she is shown in the crow's nest, with binoculars or not, the thread gets bumped with a picture of it.
It was even listed in some of the reasons for her joining a few pages back by a few members.
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@Galaxy:
It is one of the bigger hooks that people have focused on. Every time she is shown in the crow's nest, with binoculars or not, the thread gets bumped with a picture of it.
It was even listed in some of the reasons for her joining a few pages back by a few members.
I looked back, the first bump had to do with her hugging Luffy. Then the conversation steered back to the topic of her position, which was already being discussed beforehand.
I'm not saying people don't see the whole lookout thing as potential evidence of her eventually joining, but calling it the "big hook" implies that's all she has to discuss. It just happens to be what's being currently talked about.
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@S.C.:
I still don't get why people are putting all their hopes on Carrot on her just being the lookout, when there's still Usopp. You know, the master sniper. Who can see really far.
Usopp is decidedly not the lookout of the strawhats. There are just too many instances of other people being lookout for him to be considered the official lookout.
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@S.C.:
Yeah, and he can also be look-out, too.
Just like Franky can be the helmsman.
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I'm not saying people don't see the whole lookout thing as potential evidence of her eventually joining, but calling it the "big hook" implies that's all she has to discuss. It just happens to be what's being currently talked about.
Yeah, the big hook is what Pedro told her before blowing himself up. However, the extent to which Oda is portraying her as the ship's lookout is unprecedented in terms of random tag alongs clearly filling out a specific role on the ship. So its still pretty important.
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Not to mention that Carrot is still a narrative anomaly, where she goes from here is still uncertain, but I just can't see her leaving anytime soon. Especially after Chapter 877, where the importance of Pedro's sacrifice is clearly foreshadowing something important that Carrot needs to find out.
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What about the importance of Pekom's sacrifice? Last we saw he was in the middle of starting an uncontrollable berserker rage and being wrecked by enemies, with no means of escape or proper farewell, far removed from all other allies.
He gave up his life in order to buy the strawhats a few moments of extra time too.
Unless you're assuming Pekoms isn't dead, because of course he isn't. Then why are you assuming Pedro is actually dead?
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What about the importance of Pekom's sacrifice? Last we saw he was in the middle of starting an uncontrollable berserker rage and being wrecked by enemies, with no means of escape or proper farewell, far removed from all other allies.
He gave up his life in order to buy the strawhats a few moments of extra time too.
Unless you're assuming Pekoms isn't dead, because of course he isn't. Then why are you assuming Pedro is actually dead?
The Germa are still on Cacao island and the attacks were aiming to blind him, not kill him. It is entirely possible to see how he's getting out of this. There is no way for Pedro to have survived that explosion and gotten away.
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Just like there's no way "insert character here" survived "realistic life-ending event."
Wait a minute…
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@Galaxy:
Just like there's no way "insert character here" survived "realistic life-ending event."
Wait a minute…
Pell could conceivably have thrown the bomb at the last second. Pedro had the bomb wrapped around him, so he didn't get away from that explosion. Pell also immediately got medical attention. Pedro isn't getting his wounds treated on WCI.
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Not to mention that Carrot is still a narrative anomaly, where she goes from here is still uncertain,
Exactly. I can see people assuming she is likely or unlikely to join depending on what side of the balance they think it's weighing more. But those who completely deny one of the two possibilities when it's pretty obvious Oda is throwing bones here and there but not going full blown to either side… the narrowness baffles me.
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Pell could conceivably have thrown the bomb at the last second. Pedro had the bomb wrapped around him, so he didn't get away from that explosion. Pell also immediately got medical attention. Pedro isn't getting his wounds treated on WCI.
Believe me, I'd love for Pedro to be dead.
But this is the same author who can't bring himself to kill random Marines on Punk Hazard. He had to introduce a "waiting period" until the poison kicked in.
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@.access:
Exactly. I can see people assuming she is likely or unlikely to join depending on what side of the balance they think it's weighing more. But those who completely deny one of the two possibilities when it's pretty obvious Oda is throwing bones here and there but not going full blown to either side… the narrowness baffles me.
This is something that just sounds highly subjective. There are always going to be three sides to any theory: Against, Middle-Ground, and For. That's a natural progression for any discussion.
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Oh. My. God. Pedro is not dead. Quit using that as justification for Carrot.
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The Sun pirates has been underwater for a very long time. None of the Big Mom crew even realise that considering that praline took out all the underwater snail camera.
They saved Pekom earlier this arc when he fell into the water & gave him medical treatment.It's not that far fetched to believe that they saved Pedro when he hit the water. Aladdin is also a doctor so he could easily treat Pedro.
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What about the importance of Pekom's sacrifice? Last we saw he was in the middle of starting an uncontrollable berserker rage and being wrecked by enemies, with no means of escape or proper farewell, far removed from all other allies.
He gave up his life in order to buy the strawhats a few moments of extra time too.
Unless you're assuming Pekoms isn't dead, because of course he isn't. Then why are you assuming Pedro is actually dead?
Context is completely different though…
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The Sun pirates has been underwater for a very long time.
For the first time in my whole life I caught myself wondering if mermaids get wrinkly fingers after too long underwater. How this thought never crossed my mind before? I'm disappointed with myself.
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Oh. My. God. Pedro is not dead. Quit using that as justification for Carrot.
Oh shit! Here comes Below Average again with his bulletproof arguments. Surely our side of the debate is done for!
The Sun pirates has been underwater for a very long time. None of the Big Mom crew even realise that considering that praline took out all the underwater snail camera.
They saved Pekom earlier this arc when he fell into the water & gave him medical treatment.It's not that far fetched to believe that they saved Pedro when he hit the water. Aladdin is also a doctor so he could easily treat Pedro.
The problem with this is that we see the fishmen only a few chapters after Pedro explodes and Aladdin is just standing (treading water?) next to Praline. That explosion took Perospero's arm off, and Pedro took it point blank in the chest. I don't think any doctor could finish an operation like that so fast. That was well before we started getting time jumps every chapter, so this is still very soon after the explosion. Also, it probably took them a long time in order to call for all sea slugs in BM's entire territory and for the sea slugs to gather around Praline from their spots at every corner of BM's territory.
It's much more likely that the fishmen were busy with the slugs rather than hanging out near the coast (and not helping the strawhats and Jimbei fight the BM pirates for some reason).
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@Galaxy:
It really is about the one person who can do it best, though. Every Straw Hat with a traditional ship role knocks the others out of the park when it comes to performing their duty. What special capability does Carrot bring to the role of lookout inside of the crow's nest?
Out of the few times that the lookout position has been brought up over the course of the series, we know that a big issue is that whoever handles the lookout position at night doesn't get enough sleep (Volume 74's SBS), and if the crew gets a permanent look-out, Luffy wants one who is full of energy. (Chapter 304)
Carrot has plenty of energy (not to mention that she seems easily excitable when it comes to the sort of chaos that is found in the New World), and it was shown back in Zou that she either doesn't need to sleep or doesn't sleep often, given that she worked for both the night and day rulers. While some of the people on the crew would be energetic (mainly Luffy; Usopp and Chopper might be, depending on the island), the fact that she doesn't need sleep gives Carrot an advantage in the long run.
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The Sun pirates has been underwater for a very long time. None of the Big Mom crew even realise that considering that praline took out all the underwater snail camera.
They saved Pekom earlier this arc when he fell into the water & gave him medical treatment.It's not that far fetched to believe that they saved Pedro when he hit the water. Aladdin is also a doctor so he could easily treat Pedro.
It's not, but it's even more far-fetched how Perospero, who was literally on top of him, didn't get blown off into the sea.
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It's quite ironic how everytime we mention the lookout role the very next chapter has Carrot there giving the crew a heads up but apparently it's still not a thing yet…if next chapter still has her there that still won't be enough. Carrot's chances are not zero, don't rule it out like it's a foregone conclusion is what most us Carrot supporters are saying. She just went cheek to cheek with Luffy in one of the most adorable interactions I've ever seen with Luffy from any character in the entire series. It's quite endearing in fact.
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Out of the few times that the lookout position has been brought up over the course of the series, we know that a big issue is that whoever handles the lookout position at night doesn't get enough sleep (Volume 74's SBS),
Yeah, and that SBS also says this.
there will always need to be at least two people awake at all times in order to keep an eye out in both the front and back directions of the ship
Do the Straw Hats need two people manning the wheel? Two people cooking? Two people navigating? Oda literally deems it as a role that they rotate there because of the logistics of it, meaning he doesn't consider it a dedicated role on the ship.
Maybe if we had gotten even a bit of a hint that the Straw Hats are suffering from this supposed lack of sleep, there'd be some argument to this, but it really doesn't seem to matter much at all.
and if the crew gets a permanent look-out, Luffy wants one who is full of energy. (Chapter 304)
That's a one-time gag that involved both Luffy and Usopp. They just didn't like that Robin was so serious about it.
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Carrot has plenty of energy (not to mention that she seems easily excitable when it comes to the sort of chaos that is found in the New World), and it was shown back in Zou that she either doesn't need to sleep or doesn't sleep often, given that she worked for both the night and day rulers. While some of the people on the crew would be energetic (mainly Luffy; Usopp and Chopper might be, depending on the island), the fact that she doesn't need sleep gives Carrot an advantage in the long run.
This doesn't mean she "never" sleeps, though. Luffy wakes up her (and the others) at the end of Chapter 830.
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The funny thing is that Carrot has the tools to become the perfect lookout just standing there, on top of her head, since we met her, but Oda just refuses to use it.
She just needs to go "ok, know what? Fuck these binoculars, I will just use my super rabbit hearing and scan the shit out of this sea". Just like that, bam!, fuck your eyes Usopp, girl doesn't even need to look and she can keep the crew's ass covered 360º for kilometers if Oda so wishes. But does he wish, though, because so far not a single mention of her having the one thing rabbits are known most for (still, it is a very fair possibility)…
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She just went cheek to cheek with Luffy in one of the most adorable interactions I've ever seen with Luffy from any character in the entire series. It's quite endearing in fact.
She's doing a thing that both Pedro and Wanda have been shown doing. It's the Mink's way of showing affection, not some Carrot-specific character trait.
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The funny thing is that Carrot has the tools to become the perfect lookout just standing there, on top of her head, since we met her, but Oda just refuses to use it.
She just needs to go "ok, know what? Fuck these binoculars, I will just use my super rabbit hearing and scan the shit out of this sea". Just like that, bam!, fuck your eyes Usopp, girl don't even need to look and she can keep the crew's ass covered 360º for kilometers if Oda so wishes. But does he wish, though, because so far not a single mention of her having the one thing rabbits are most known for (still, it is a very fair possibility)…
Something like this would be the "oompf" moment I've been talking about. It's at least somewhat of an equal portrayal to the "best person" portrayal that the other roles have gotten.
But, alas, she just continues to use the same tools as any other Straw Hat does while looking out.
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And I don't know why you keep dismissing her being able to jump ridiculously high as a special ability that helps her be the lookout. She has used that ability for that exact purpose to great effect before.
@S.C.:
I still don't get why people are putting all their hopes on Carrot on her just being the lookout, when there's still Usopp. You know, the master sniper. Who can see really far.
And who can also make other strawhats and possibly himself jump very high
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Even if jumping high would be an unique ability and if lookout would be an ability at all, i think those would be the most underwhelming defining abilities for a main character. The same applies to sulong and electro.
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What about the importance of Pekom's sacrifice? Last we saw he was in the middle of starting an uncontrollable berserker rage and being wrecked by enemies, with no means of escape or proper farewell, far removed from all other allies.
He gave up his life in order to buy the strawhats a few moments of extra time too.
Unless you're assuming Pekoms isn't dead, because of course he isn't. Then why are you assuming Pedro is actually dead?
Pekoms was doing that because of Pedro's sacrifice. Not a single person who's read the manga for more than a week thinks he's actually dead. On the other had, Pekoms' sacrifice and everyone else's (including Luffy taking Katakuri to the mirror world, Carrot's sulong gamble, etc.) would be completely undone if Pedro were still alive. His sacrifice started a chain of events that would completely fall apart if he were to suddenly appear. I can't recall a single instance of someone's "death" triggering so many other events besides Ace and Whitebeard.
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Oh shit! Here comes Below Average again with his bulletproof arguments. Surely our side of the debate is done for!
First off, I'm a woman. Second, I've made plenty of points that you've chosen to ignore. Your sexy bunny is not joining the crew. Sorry.
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@Below:
First off, I'm a woman. Second, I've made plenty of points that you've chosen to ignore. Your sexy bunny is not joining the crew. Sorry.
To be fair, your arguments are usually one or two sentences that don't really refute a lot of statements. They usually break down to "Carrot won't join guyz."
Some of your last few are:
Oh. My. God. Pedro is not dead. Quit using that as justification for Carrot.
But Galaxy! She stood on the crow's nest! She has to be a Strawhat!
Carrot is the focus of every chapter. Period.
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Carrot really brings narrative dissonance, so its not surprising people would gravitate to the theory that she would join.
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@Below:
First off, I'm a woman. Second, I've made plenty of points that you've chosen to ignore.
Are we really going to go back and count which one of us has ignore more of the others' points? Because I'm pretty sure you're the most guilty of that.
Your sexy bunny is not joining the crew. Sorry.
My sexy bunny is currently working a specific job on the Sunny and she's staying in the story for at least 3 more years even if she doesn't join. I'll be fine.
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Glad we're focusing on my snark and not the things I've said that no one commented on because they want their rabbit girl to be a main character so badly that they'll ignore valid points and keep reiterating the same "she's a lookout" or "her personality will come later" arguments.