The clock tells us that Luffy stayed unconscious for 7 minutes, so I'd definitely call it a draw.
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Chapter 896: The Last Request
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I would believe you if I hadn´t seen Rayleigh scout an entire island for animals, gauge their power level, compare them to Luffy, to tell him how many stronger oponents there are. It´s safe to assume not every one of those had a killing intent at the time Ray used his scouter.
OK Rayleigh is a legendary pirate but to think none of the hundreds of strong pirates near the mirror has proper CoO is super convenient. It would be more believable if Sanji was a mile up in the air and not sitting right next to them.
I´d prefer if people could "hide their presence" (like what Pedro seemingly did on Zou) than Yonkou crew nearby - nobody has Observation / scans the surroundings for an ambush (somebody providing help for Luffy). The former means Sanji is amazing, the latter implies incompetence on the BM pirate side.
and in that moment ray was willingly scouting the island for strong voices. the point is will…much like you have to focus to hear some flebile sound in your proximity, the same way an observation haki user has to focus and willingly try to "hear" to find something or someone..we also have another example of that when sanji was looking for kinemon's torso back in punk hazard, he had to focus to pin-point where it was.
in this moment none of the big mom pirates have any reason to do that since they all know where their enemy is coming from...luffy is coming from the mirror and for what they know the rest of the crew is on the ship (they don't know about pudding's betrayal, so they don't know that sanji could move indipendently from the ship)
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So luffy already beat vice yonkou level. The only people left stronger then him are admirals and yonkou. But since none thinks he will get to fight admirals, then only yonkous, and with shanks out of the question, then he should have only 3 battles left, with kaidou, bm and BB. and maybe some 2 minor arcs villains like weevil.
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One thing I forgot to mention: Nezoms scene doesn't really work because we didn't got any update on Brulee. Oh, he captured her… from being captured by Luffy!?
Last time we saw Brulee she was Luffy's captive, so Nazoms capturing her now doesn't really had much sense. Maybe Oda planned to show us an update on Brulee (she escaping from Luffy or being set free by him) and just forgot he didn't actually added that to the story?wellit's not that hard to imagine a solution to that… luffy took brulee but ditched her when he decided to fight katakuri to the end..since she was the reason why luffy escaped in the first place, she took the smart decision to just go back to whole cake island, where i think it's where we saw pekoms last time, that had just heard of pedro's sacrifice. then pekoms decided to kidnap brulee when nobody was watching because of the chaos,disguised himself and went into the mirror world.
considering how sometimes oda narrates, it'spossible that we are gonna get a mini flashback next chapter that explains what happened, but right now it was more important to him to end with the revelation of a possible exit and the cliffhanger in front of the mirror,more than finish the chapter on pedro kidnapping brulee
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One thing I forgot to mention: Nezoms scene doesn't really work because we didn't got any update on Brulee. Oh, he captured her… from being captured by Luffy!?
Last time we saw Brulee she was Luffy's captive, so Nazoms capturing her now doesn't really had much sense. Maybe Oda planned to show us an update on Brulee (she escaping from Luffy or being set free by him) and just forgot he didn't actually added that to the story?I specifically said I consider it a draw because both were knocked unconscious at the same time, something that didn't happen in any of the examples you used (even if just for a second, we could see Luffy was still awake after his enemy was knocked out. Even in the Moriah case, where we couldn't see his face, Oda had Luffy lifting his hand when he was shown on the ground).
But yeah, it is my interpretation, so get over it.
Luffy is shown unconscious here while Moria gives his speech http://mangalife.us/read-online/One-Piece-chapter-482-page-26.html
Luffy was already unconscious here http://mangalife.us/read-online/One-Piece-chapter-66-page-15.html
while Krieg still stands up and wants to continueI am ok with people interpreting things that require interpretation and are shaky, but manga facts, which it literally is when two character see what happens and declare it Katakuri´s defeat, are not supposed to be "interpreted".
But feel free to base your interpretation on wishes, no problem.
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what i meant when i said that it's not a radar is that it's not like you are gonna get a "blip" every time another voice pops up in your "space",of course you can pinpoint the location of someone based on his or her "voice"
So you think he has his "voice" recorded and just scans the entire island while ignoring any otehr voice? But he still has to hear the voices to compare, even if it´s very swiftly.
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He has to get out of Mirror World.
He was schocked that Luffy recognized him instantly- he thought he is disguised.. He will have to fight and help.
well to defend himself..at the moment he is basically a traitor, and we already saw that the big mom pirates don't treat well traitors.
The point I'm making is that Oda bothering to give him a disguise at all implies that he has no intention of blowing his cover. Similar to how Pudding has been clearly helping the Straw Hats for awhile now, yet she's being very careful not to reveal herself as a traitor. If he was ready to risk it all, then I really fail to see why Oda would have Pekoms disguise himself at all, regardless of whether or not it's actually effective.
For all you know, he could simply be content with securing Brulee for Luffy, and Luffy takes it from there. As for the idea of them all fighting, that becomes tricky, because it's not exactly an environment where one can have a proper scuffle, not when they're all ready to ambush Luffy once he comes out of the mirror. They've repeatedly emphasized that it would be very ill-advised to come out into the crowd with the intention of actually fighting them, that they need to lose them ASAP.
They could possibly use Brulee's powers to transform their appearances. And though I don't think he'll transform this late in the arc, Pekoms using his Sulong form to blitz out of the Mirror World makes more sense than him actually fighting his crew.
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The clock tells us that Luffy stayed unconscious for 7 minutes, so I'd definitely call it a draw.
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I'm not surprise, in AP world, Luffy lost to Eneru and Moriah.
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People say that Katakuri didn't even budge in that attack.
But when you actually see and think about it, he's pretty much holding into the ground with his arm and can't move, that or his arm is super heavy. Meaning Katakuri took the full force of that punch without flying backwards.
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So you think he has his "voice" recorded and just scans the entire island while ignoring any otehr voice? But he still has to hear the voices to compare, even if it´s very swiftly.
yeah, but hearing all those voices for a couple seconds is one thing..hearing them for all your life, continuously, might be a lil' more taxing.
also what distinguish a good observation haki user is also the fact that it can focus on one singular voice,much like sanji did on the punk hazard lake to find kinemon's torso.–- Update From New Post Merge ---
The point I'm making is that Oda bothering to give him a disguise at all implies that he has no intention of blowing his cover. Similar to how Pudding has been clearly helping the Straw Hats for awhile now, yet she's being very careful not to reveal herself as a traitor. If he was ready to risk it all, then I really fail to see why Oda would have Pekoms disguise himself at all, regardless of whether or not it's actually effective.
For all you know, he could simply be content with securing Brulee for Luffy, and Luffy takes it from there. As for the idea of them all fighting, that becomes tricky, because it's not exactly an environment where one can have a proper scuffle, not when they're all ready to ambush Luffy once he comes out of the mirror. They've repeatedly emphasized that it would be very ill-advised to come out into the crowd with the intention of actually fighting them, that they need to lose them ASAP.
They could possibly use Brulee's powers to transform their appearances. And though I don't think he'll transform this late in the arc, Pekoms using his Sulong form to blitz out of the Mirror World makes more sense than him actually fighting his crew.
but his cover has been blown by luffy of all people…the guy that was unable to say that sogeking was usopp..even brulee already knows that it's pekoms,so you can be sure that preyy much anyone will know at first glance, and even if they don't brulee will tell them.
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Can someone make a Luffy vs Katakuri fullfight imgur?
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again, a thing is luffy being durable,another is such a disparity in endurance between him and what is supposed to be an high level player of the new world.
luffy took a lot of abuse from lucci, but dealed as much to him and by the end he couldn't move a finger.
here he took 10 times the abuse the opponent did,and by the end is there walking while katakuri is flat on the ground…there's being resilient and then there's "damage doesn't actually matter" resilient.
Katakuri having more power than Luffy doesn't mean he has better endurance. Cracker is a prime example of this & so is Enel.
Katakuri being a high level opponent doesn't mean he's better or significantly better than someone like Luffy at everything. One piece's power structure has never been so simple. Big Mom & Kaido have far better durability than Whitebeard to the point where they are damn near indestructable but he was stronger than them both.
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Pretty confusing that Compote now suddenly is back in WCI, wasn't she and the other guy after the Sun Pirates? It feels we jumped a whole chapter in a way…information wise that is. At least we can now imagine that Brulee is honest about her feelings for Katakuri and really loves him as her big brother, not like her shallow little sister Flampe xD. I loved the way this fight ended, for me it's a draw as well which is more than okay. Also sad we haven't seen a flashback of Katakuri, would have been nice. Wonder how thin Big-Mom is by now...
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Now I am very interested in…...
Zoro vs Katakuri that will take place in future when Luffy will be fighting Big Mom.
Mogura vs 3 sword style should be awesome. Also both of them being possibly some of biggest, most honorable badasses in series.
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The clock tells us that Luffy stayed unconscious for 7 minutes, so I'd definitely call it a draw.
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That's how I see it as well. It was a moral defeat for Katakuri, no doubt, since he couldn't avoid falling on his back and we know what that means to him. But as far as we are sticking to the "brawl" itself…
wellit's not that hard to imagine a solution to that… luffy took brulee but ditched her when he decided to fight katakuri to the end..since she was the reason why luffy escaped in the first place, she took the smart decision to just go back to whole cake island, where i think it's where we saw pekoms last time, that had just heard of pedro's sacrifice. then pekoms decided to kidnap brulee when nobody was watching because of the chaos,disguised himself and went into the mirror world.
considering how sometimes oda narrates, it'spossible that we are gonna get a mini flashback next chapter that explains what happened, but right now it was more important to him to end with the revelation of a possible exit and the cliffhanger in front of the mirror,more than finish the chapter on pedro kidnapping brulee
I agree that it is easy to come up with scenarios, my thing is that none of those possible scenarios were shown. And I don't think this is the kind of thing that properly works when shown retroactively.
Luffy is shown unconscious here while Moria gives his speech http://mangalife.us/read-online/One-Piece-chapter-482-page-26.html
Luffy was already unconscious here http://mangalife.us/read-online/One-Piece-chapter-66-page-15.html
while Krieg still stands up and wants to continueI am ok with people interpreting things that require interpretation and are shaky, but manga facts, which it literally is when two character see what happens and declare it Katakuri´s defeat, are not supposed to be "interpreted".
But feel free to base your interpretation on wishes, no problem.
Go back a few pages on the Krieg one and you'll see Luffy was still conscious after knocking him off, Krieg regained his conscious after being rescued but he was knocked out back there; as for the Moriah one, this time go forward to the next chapter and you'll see Luffy is raising his hand as his body is vanishing (so even though it may seem like he is unconscious in the page you posted, he is not).
Plus, as I said in my edit, I see a considerable difference between being knocked out by your opponent's attack and falling out of exhaustion once you have ensured your enemy was defeated.That said, while I am totally fine with explaining my opinion (this is a forum after all), I'm not in for having to defend it against someone as if I need your ok to arrive to a different conclusion, so save me from your passive-aggressive shtick and move over to someone else.
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Katakuri having more power than Luffy doesn't mean has better endurance. Cracker is a prime example of this.
Katakuri being a high level opponent doesn't mean he's better than someone like Luffy at everything. One piece's power structure has never been so simple. Big Mom & Kaido have far better durability than Whitebeard to the point where they are damn near indestructable but he was stronger than them both.
cracker took his own attack multiplied by the bounciness of what was basically a gear 4 gomgom fuusen,through the hardness of his own haki imbued armor and was sent flying for a good kilometre if now much more.
craker didn't really lack stamina.
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I just noticed an Octopus Mermaid alongside Oven and the others.
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By the way, looking forward to Ramistars Imgur of the entire fight.
I just quickly went through chapters downloaded on my phone to look at the entire fight in 1 sitting which took like 10-15 minutes to do.
Luffy wasn't even doing that bad the entire time, he was doing really well, it's the typical the opponents got the upperhand.
Luffy didn't take any attacks that would be fatal, hes taken quite a lot, but when you see the entire fight, he didn't really take much compared to other fights. Also, the fight was quite short, people thought it was long and dragged and Luffy took the most damage ever when he never did.
Katakuri was all bloody after Boundmans attacks, it's just gotta tell you that Luffy's Boundman is no joke.
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I just noticed an Octopus Mermaid alongside Oven and the others.
Damnit. I was going to comment just that. Full sister of Praline? She seems the right age range, but with Oda the age ranges are too wide to tell.
A quick refresher on fishfolk and merfolk genetics:
The only siblings that we've seen that were the same kind of fish were the Quintuplets. We have seen very little repeats (I think only Hachan and Ottopako) of undersea tribes fish base species.
But what I don't remember is what happened with kids of one fishfolk parent and one merfolk parent, hybrids or random of either merfolk or fishfolk?
Some fishmen and mermen were weirder than usual, like Hyozo's mouth like Hachan, or Vanderdecken randomly having four legs.
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Biggest surprise of this arc: Bege has shown himself to be rather likable.
It seems possible that bege will be under grand fleet strawhat one day of course when Luffy become serious contender of the strongest pirate (king of pirate).
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Yeah when it comes to objective and resolve Luffy won.
But a referee doesn't take 7 minutes to count to three. That's what I meant when I said "draw".
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In the very very very unlikely chance that the Big Mom Pirates get a new arc to be the villains, Katakuri is fighting Zoro.
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Im 80% sure that Gerth is on Hajrudin's crew the other 3 could be Eiri, Road and Goldberg.
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Luffy was the last man standing, that means he won. I don't think it would have been cool to see Katakuri win and then letting Luffy go out of respect or wanting to see him come back at his full potential, that's already happened with Zoro and Mihawk and I wouldn't want to see that with Luffy. Considering that Luffy is being built up to be the Pirate King, him losing in that way doesn't fit with the entire narrative of him becoming a Legendary figure in the pirate world.
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yeah, but hearing all those voices for a couple seconds is one thing..hearing them for all your life, continuously, might be a lil' more taxing.
also what distinguish a good observation haki user is also the fact that it can focus on one singular voice,much like sanji did on the punk hazard lake to find kinemon's torso.–- Update From New Post Merge ---
but his cover has been blown by luffy of all people...the guy that was unable to say that sogeking was usopp..even brulee already knows that it's pekoms,so you can be sure that preyy much anyone will know at first glance, and even if they don't brulee will tell them.
if pudding doesn't so some big memory manipulation at the end of the arc, i don't see how pekoms can keep his place on the big mom pirates.But there were not thousands of humans in the lake.
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Decent chapter, time to wrap this arc up. I don't understand the Sanji and Pudding moment, did she request that he stop smoking? Or take his memory? Also thought that Pekom's younger brother randomly appearing was corny af. Happy with the way the fight ended with Luffy and Katakuri, nice gesture from Luffy to cover Katakuri's mouth before he left. I like it when we get to this point in an arc, the next 5-10 chapters will be solid we should get updates of what's going on elsewhere.
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That's how I see it as well. It was a moral defeat for Katakuri, no doubt, since he couldn't avoid falling on his back and we know what that means to him. But as far as we are sticking to the "brawl" itself...
I agree that it is easy to come up with scenarios, my thing is that none of those possible scenarios were shown. And I don't think this is the kind of thing that properly works when shown retroactively.
Go back a few pages on the Krieg one and you'll see Luffy was still conscious after knocking him off, Krieg regained his conscious after being rescued but he was knocked out back there; as for the Moriah one, this time go forward to the next chapter and you'll see Luffy is raising his hand as his body is vanishing (so even though it may seem like he is unconscious in the page you posted, he is not).
Plus, as I said in my edit, I see a considerable difference between being knocked out by your opponent's attack and falling out of exhaustion once you have ensured your enemy was defeated.That said, while I am totally fine with explaining my opinion (this is a forum after all), I'm not in for having to defend it against someone as if I need your ok to arrive to a different conclusion, so save me from your passive-aggressive shtick and move over to someone else.
They literally go unconscious the same time with one second apart, talking about Krieg, which in this case happened as well, only that Luffy went unconscious due to G4 like he did in Dressrosa, especially since he literally got up again after 10 minutes, the 10 minutes he expressed he needs back in Dressrosa as well, so once again with your logic, Krieg victor, DD victor.
And Luffy "raising his hand" after Moria is his body vanishing, he was lying on the ground motionless.Yep good think Luffy was not knocked out but his G4 ended.
Why should i save you from that if it´s a forum like you said and you express something that is factually going against what the manga shows and states?
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Tankman is sth that shouldn't be taken too lightly.
In RL-metallurgy sth can not be soft and hard at the same time. It's either hard and brittle or soft and easily penetrated.
I explaint it myself this way:
the surface of Luffy's Skin is hard (means cannot be penetrated), whereas Luffy's actual Body stays soft like a rubber ball.Such a material would be really weird in real life.
First I thought Luffy will hide inside Pekoms' turtle-Shell and escape Hancock-Smuggle-Style.
But with Brulee around those two could disguise as Katakuri and pretend to be in a hurry for Katakuri's Snack time.
Pekoms is too cool for Sulon. That's why he's wearing those sunglasses.
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Hey, what happened to the guys saying Big Mom is going down this Arc?
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nazoms, gastino, and sogeking should have a drink together sometimes.
I also feel the love for katakuri so people who insist that their fight is a draw (both ko'ed at first) or even those who argue that katakuri win (as luffy got ko'ed first) is somewhat understandable to me. but it's also ok for kata to lose as his main trait is to see the future and dodge the attack so his defense or endurance must be on the weaker side.
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After reading the chapter i continue to say that the battle was a draw but the only difference was that Luffy had something to fight for (meet others at 1 and escape). The both attacks connected and both were nearly defeated. I think Katakuri decided to let him go after answering his question. He knows what he is capable of and how he can grow fighting stronger enemies. That's why Katakuri let him go and Luffy gave him the black hat (it's a mirror match so he has right now a hat like Luffy) to show him respect (first time an enemy receives that from Luffy).
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Tankman is sth that shouldn't be taken too lightly.
In RL-metallurgy sth can not be soft and hard at the same time. It's either hard and brittle or soft and easily penetrated.
I explaint it myself this way:
the surface of Luffy's Skin is hard (means cannot be penetrated), whereas Luffy's actual Body stays soft like a rubber ball.Such a material would be really weird in real life.
First I thought Luffy will hide inside Pekoms' turtle-Shell and escape Hancock-Smuggle-Style.
But with Brulee around those two could disguise as Katakuri and pretend to be in a hurry for Katakuri's Snack time.
Pekoms is too cool for Sulon. That's why he's wearing those sunglasses.Of course Luffy´s tankman is way more extreme in its attributes, not that OP si supposed to be realistic, but the idea of having a hard shell and soft and malleable core is nothing foreign in technology.
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Ah what a conclusion to a very awesome arc. Love falling in love with One Piece over and over. Hats off (literally) to you Katakuri you were the MVP villain of the arc. It's so heavily implied by all the siblings that Big Bro is the glue that keeps them together as a solid unit. I agree with others that it makes sense his durability is not on Luffy's level as he endeavours to avoid hits altogether, but for someone who does that he certainly took some seriously strong blows without flinching. If he took a gut punch and literally has his side impaled I wonder if that added to the damage he received overall. I would call it a draw too with Luffy edging it slightly as he's got places to be, if he didn't he'd be napping. Those last few words they exchanged solidifies Luffy's improvement in this fight, Luffy can see very far into the future even if it's unknowingly and I don't think it's just some poetic thing Katakuri is talking about, I believe in his mind's eye he can see what Luffy is seeing which is becoming the king of the Pirates. Mafia hat scene…that's some powerful stuff.
Pudding and Sanji. I hope it isn't a memory wipe... they need to be together! Pudding4nakama along with Carrot.
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How are people reading that Katakuri let him go?
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People aren't asking the real questions.
Where did Luffy get that extra hat? That's an asspull because he literally pulled it out of his ass
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People aren't asking the real questions.
Where did Luffy get that extra hat? That's an asspull because he literally pulled it out of his ass
Sarcasm? He had it with him since he got dressed to meet Capone.
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Sarcasm? He had it with him since he got dressed to meet Capone.
Yup.
Btw, Luffy was burdened wearing an extra hat.
His hat was all but a plot device in the end.
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Just to add a bit of controversy (and hate): 1 and 2.
I was probably labeled a katafan the moment I said I considered it a draw, so why not go all the way and point out this: Katakuri was actually the last man standing!
They literally go unconscious the same time with one second apart, talking about Krieg, which in this case happened as well, only that Luffy went unconscious due to G4 like he did in Dressrosa, especially since he literally got up again after 10 minutes, the 10 minutes he expressed he needs back in Dressrosa as well, so once again with your logic, Krieg victor, DD victor.
And Luffy "raising his hand" after Moria is his body vanishing, he was lying on the ground motionless.Yep good think Luffy was not knocked out but his G4 ended.
Why should i save you from that if it´s a forum like you said and you express something that is factually going against what the manga shows and states?
That´s not how it works.
If you do not want your obviously false opinions to get refuted and criticized, all you have to do is not state them in the first place.gurl…
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Just to add a bit of controversy (and hate): 1 and 2.
I was probably labeled a katafan the moment I said I considered it a draw, so why not go all the way and point out this: Katakuri was actually the last man standing!
gurl…
So Luffy had his footing taken away so he lost ok.
In the end, the last one standing was Luffy.
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After reading the chapter I am even more convinced that Pudding erased/altered Sanji's memories of her and disappeared. This way he'll have no issues with leaving without her and it is also her punishment to herself for acting the way she did.
I still don't like this as an outcome though.
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Just to add a bit of controversy (and hate): 1 and 2.
I was probably labeled a katafan the moment I said I considered it a draw, so why not go all the way and point out this: Katakuri was actually the last man standing!
gurl…
So was DD since in both cases, the same thing happened, Luffy ran out of G4. Weirdly nobody considered DD the victor, just like nobody considers Katakuri the victor despite Pekomz and Brulee being there.
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After reading the chapter I am even more convinced that Pudding erased/altered Sanji's memories of her and disappeared. This way he'll have no issues with leaving without her and it is also her punishment to herself for acting the way she did.
I still don't like this as an outcome though.
What's the point when someone would just remind him that Pudding exists? Why would her last wish be to punish herself?
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Katakuri did pretty well despite having a serious self-inflicted wound.
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What's the point when someone would just remind him that Pudding exists? Why would her last wish be to punish herself?
Because Sanji is a meme and if he had a wife or fiance he can't play with other girls.
Also this isn't a romance series.
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Katakuri did pretty well despite having a serious self-inflicted wound.
So did Luffy having received the same serious wound.
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Man, Pudding a cute. I'd be sad if this arc was the last we saw of her.
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So did Luffy having received the same serious wound.
Not self-inflicted though.
Point is, if Katakuri didn't bother to fight 'fairly' then the outcome might have been different in this fight.Luffy knows that there isn't a 'fair fight' between pirates… That's why he tag-teamed cracker with Nami.
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Because Sanji is a meme and if he had a wife or fiance he can't play with other girls.
Also this isn't a romance series.
Again, there's a very obvious flaw in regards to Pudding erasing all traces of herself from Sanji's memories.
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Not self-inflicted though.
Point is, if Katakuri didn't bother to fight 'fairly' then the outcome might have been different in this fight.Luffy knows that there isn't a 'fair fight' between pirates… That's why he tag-teamed cracker with Nami.
But no one is disputing that.
The problem was that Katakuri has his pride and for him to defeat someone with the help of someone else, doesn't satisfy him.
I'm the same on online games, to put it more specifically, Battlefield 4 when i was one of the top Jet pilots. I hated it when some other jet would come in trying to help me, it just made it really difficult for the other guy and I would get no satisfaction in beating another good pilot with the help of someone else because it doesn't show my skill. Sure teamwork is required to defeat the opponent and its a teamplay game, but I take pride in beating people 1v1, no interference.
That's why I understand Katakuri's emotions very well.
Luffy on the other hand is different. Luffy in Doflamingo's case, has an objective, that objective was to stop Doflamingo from killing an entire country. He doesn't give a shit if his opponent is weaker and it's unfair, he needs to take him out to save his friends.
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Actually in Luffy´s case it was worse since he took that attack, and got additionally hit with a kick, a power mochi punch and a power gatling barrage by Katakuri right after he got hit by Mogura while Katakuri admitted that such a moment of carelessness, which it was not really, is the decisive moment in the match.
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I don't think Oda would bring Katakuri back again at another arc. It would like drag a car out of fuel to the nearby post miles away.
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Decent chapter, time to wrap this arc up. I don't understand the Sanji and Pudding moment, did she request that he stop smoking? Or take his memory?
All points out to be a kiss.
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