Her surname is also Jewelry.
And? A lot a people changes their surnames because their parents are famous and they want to create a name by themselves or maybe she used the surname of her father.
Her surname is also Jewelry.
And? A lot a people changes their surnames because their parents are famous and they want to create a name by themselves or maybe she used the surname of her father.
Well its simple. You think Big Mom is not going to find Urouge? If Ace found alone Blackbeard after killing the 4th commander i think Mom is going
to find him faster with her intel and contact.
Is she gonna send someone to get him or is he gonna show up in Big Mama's territory once again?
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And? A lot a people changes their surnames because their parents are famous and they want to create a name by themselves or maybe she used the surname of her father.
Yes, all this is true, but they're still facts that could compromise the "Bonney is Big Mom's daughter" theory.
Yeah because Big Mom is a static pirate without legs… Why she needs to came from a specific sea in other to be the son of someone?
Remember what happened last time a yonkou got out of the NW ? another tried to get his territory ( you know, when Shanks stopped Kaido ).
Even though she could be very old and then, born before BigMom became a yonkou, it seems that Lola was the only daughter hanging 'round.
And if she had changed her name because doesn't like her mother, don't get why she'd keep a ship that looks like her mother's.
Is she gonna send someone to get him or is he gonna show up in Big Mama's territory once again?
I know this is probably irony but whatever.
He actually has no reason to come back. – except if, MAYBE, he's allied with Capone Begg and are up to something, but this is very unlikely --
And why would he ? is he expecting to take down every commanders of BigMom one after another ? escaping after beating one everyone single time ? it sounds like a very silly plan.
Man I was getting a little upset with the forest stuff but Cracker and Brulee redeem it completely for me. Seeing one of Big Mom's 3 Sweet Commanders in action is insanely cool. Can't believe Urouge was strong enough to outright kill a Big Mom commander, I would have killed to see that fight in action.
Good to finally see Big Mom show some muscle. I think Shanks is the only Yonkou left that we haven't really seen any of his crew in action, since they didn't do much at Marineford understandably given their presence itself put a halt to the war.
I can't say it is a bridge chapter, but it felt like one. Decent overall, I really don't care for the forest, like at ALL.
Can we get another 10 chapters of forest please?
Legit just make the rest of the Totland arc take place in the forest
Put the wedding in the forest, and the Vinsmokes, and Jimbei
@John:
Remember what happened last time a yonkou got out of the NW ? another tried to get his territory ( you know, when Shanks stopped Kaido ).
Didn't Kaido went to fight WB himself instead of taking his turf?
@John:
know this is probably irony but whatever.
He actually has no reason to come back. – except if, MAYBE, he's allied with Capone Begg and are up to something, but this is very unlikely --
And why would he ? is he expecting to take down every commanders of BigMom one after another ? escaping after beating one everyone single time ? it sounds like a very silly plan.
Bigbang have the answers to your questions!
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I can't say it is a bridge chapter, but it felt like one. Decent overall, I really don't care for the forest, like at ALL.
The losing side of the AGOG wars doesn't get to shit talk the forest.
@Monkey:
The losing side of the AGOG wars doesn't get to shit talk the forest.
Didn't AGOG lose that as well and make a big piss about it?
And really, you still going on about those arguments after all these years? When it was clear Hancock wasn't gonna join (I've come to the thought that it was probably the best move) I conceded and shut up about it. No need to drag up old history.
Are we talking about the same Sabo who felt comfortable taking on an admiral? Most wanted man's pupil?
Bobbins? When the hell did he fight?
I would not just put Sabo right away above likes of Jack.
For me he gave same impression that Whitebeard commander like Marco gave during war. Close to admiral but a bit below. Same as I imagine Jack or as I see Cracker right now.
With Fire Logia mastered he might get closer to being as strong as likes of Admirals though.
I think Killer will sneak in the wedding.
–- He read the paper that Law and Luffy have defeated Doflamingo –->>>
–- He thinks they want to take down Kaidou because he knows that Doflamingo is Joker and then works for Kaidou
( confirmed here http://www.mangareader.net/one-piece/793/10 ) –->>>
–- Everyone in the NewWorld knows Sanji will marry Pudding ( it's safe to assume everyone knows ). He doubts Luffy is okay with that because he knows what it implies. –->>>
–- He wants to rescue his captain. So he will ask to join Luffy's alliance.
@John:
I think Killer will sneak in the wedding.
–- He read the paper that Law and Luffy have defeated Doflamingo –->>>
–- He thinks they want to take down Kaidou because he knows that Doflamingo is Joker and then works for Kaidou
( confirmed here http://www.mangareader.net/one-piece/793/10 ) –->>>
–- Everyone in the NewWorld knows Sanji will marry Pudding ( it's safe to assume everyone knows ). He doubts Luffy is okay with that because he knows what it implies. –->>>
–- He wants to rescue his captain. So he will ask to join Luffy's alliance.
Umm no it's not? Where have we had confirmation that Big Mom advertises her tea parties, and the details of them to the entire New World?
As for Killer joining the alliance, I don't see that happening this arc, if it happens at all. I think he's more likely to be hiding out on Wano somewhere, and may meet with Zoro, as opposed to him making his way through Big Mom's territory on the off-chance he'll run into Luffy
Didn't AGOG lose that as well and make a big piss about it?
And really, you still going on about those arguments after all these years? When it was clear Hancock wasn't gonna join (I've come to the thought that it was probably the best move) I conceded and shut up about it. No need to drag up old history.
War crimes don't just "vanish". They get lost in forests and made miserable.
@Mr0:
Umm no it's not? Where have we had confirmation that Big Mom advertises her tea parties, and the details of them to the entire New World?
Fact: Every citizen of BigMom's kingdom know that Pudding is going to marry Sanji.
Suppositions: There are a lot of guests, and a lot of citizen in the country knowing about the wedding. Really think that the news about the wedding didn't spread 'round the NW ? OR AT LEAST, didn't leak ? Why would they even hide it ?
Plus, a yonkou, which -means one of the 4 most powerful pirates- is marrying her daughter with Sanji VINSMOKE and you believe that everyone in the NW doesn't know ?
Well, I'll just assume you're nitpicking my post for some reasons.
@John:
Fact: Every citizen of BigMom's kingdom know that Pudding is going to marry Sanji.
Suppositions: There are a lot of guests, and a lot of citizen in the country knowing about the wedding. Really think that the news about the wedding didn't spread 'round the NW ? OR AT LEAST, didn't leak ? Why would they even hide it ?
Plus, a yonkou, which -means one of the 4 most powerful pirates- is marrying her daughter with Sanji VINSMOKE and you believe that everyone in the NW doesn't know ?Well, I'll just assume you're nitpicking my post for some reasons.
Since when were a lot of guests coming?
Guess who else is trying to sneak into the wedding - the Straw Hats. I assume you know how well that's going. So I highly doubt that Killer is going to do the same, especially when the Kid Pirates were defeated in Totland before.
We're nitpicking your posts because they're speculation supported by more speculation
@uniaka:
Maybe now, but Burgess's true power will be shown once he eats a fruit. Imagine if Burgess eats marco's fruit or Jozu's fruit.
If marco teams up with luffy and helps him beat kaido Ill think he gets another fruit
What kind of guest do people think are gonna show up. Its not really a wedding that needs everyone in NW's attention.
@Halfmetal-lich:
Didn't AGOG lose that as well and make a big piss about it?
And really, you still going on about those arguments after all these years? When it was clear Hancock wasn't gonna join (I've come to the thought that it was probably the best move) I conceded and shut up about it. No need to drag up old history.
The more you bitch about the forrest the more MK will annoy you. :ninja:
Considering Cracker multiplies when and where he gets it, now will we see two crackers from Torso-up?
@Count:
Yeah, there are a bunch of holes in Bonney being a Charlotte. However, her appetite and the fact that her ship is a giant cake like Big Mom's is a bit of a weird coincidence. Not to mention time-related fruits.
The giant cake ship, I can buy. Appetite is a bit far-fetched though - we've been introduced to a bunch of gluttons over the past 15 years, including Luffy, and that didn't make any of them Charlotte candidates. In fact, I think don't any of the confirmed Charlotte children were introduced as big eaters.
I fail to see how the time-related fruit would hint at her being a Charlotte daughter either.
There is definitely something with her though, considering how eager Akainu was to capture her.
The thing is Pudding mentioned about only one sister that left, and based on recent chapters, it's lola. If Bonney is Bm's daughter, then either she has a bad relation with her and some of the kids don't even know about her, or BM just doesn't know that she is still alive?
But what if Bonney is BM's sister? With her fruit she could have any age.
I also find the candy ship theme, years based fruit, upper lip, and love for eating too much of a conincidence for them to be non related at all.
@Kaido:
We're nitpicking your posts because they're speculation supported by more speculation
The only speculation is that Killer knows about the wedding SOMEHOW. But I guess you're considering speculation that Killer wants to help his captain, or that he doubts Luffy is okay with what the wedding implies.
maybe he won't show up, but it's legit to assume that maybe he could. I say, MAYBE.
Guess who else is trying to sneak into the wedding - the Straw Hats. I assume you know how well that's going.
yeah, yeah, yeah, lmao. "hey, you know who's also trying to sneak into the wedding ? Luffy, also known as The Ninja of East Blue"
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@John:
The only speculation is that Killer knows about the wedding SOMEHOW. But I guess you're considering speculation that Killer wants to help his captain, or that he doubts Luffy is okay with what the wedding implies.
Which basically constitutes your entire theory. I don't see how Killer attending a wedding can help his captain, nor why he would be concerned over Luffy losing a crewmate, even if he did somehow find out about the wedding, which you admitted was completely speculatory.
yeah, yeah, yeah, lmao. "hey, you know who's also trying to sneak into the wedding ? Luffy, also known as The Ninja of East Blue"
http://i5.mangareader.net/one-piece/827/one-piece-7614745.jpg
The Big Mom Pirates knew the Straw Hats were there as soon as they entered Totland. It's been heavily implied that no intruder goes unnoticed.
Urouge hype in this chapter reminds me of Oda's quote in Color Walk 6 which says, "I get annoyed to hear people speaking ill of characters in ONE PIECE. For example, when they say ‘this villain is weak’, I can't help thinking that then I'll make him much stronger!"
Perhaps Oda loves Urouge since
Urouge reaches Raftel in the first episode of his cover story.
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@Monkey:
War crimes don't just "vanish". They get lost in forests and made miserable.
Whatever dude, kinda sad that your still making asides about that, but it's the internet. You do you buddy. Whatever gets you going.
Urouge hype in this chapter reminds me of Oda's quote in Color Walk 6 which says, "I get annoyed to hear people speaking ill of characters in ONE PIECE. For example, when they say ‘this villain is weak’, I can't help thinking that then I'll make him much stronger!"
Perhaps Oda loves Urouge since
- Urouge is the only supernova who has more than 2 hobbies. (Volume 82 SBS)
- Oda selected Urouge as his favorite character figure and gave special Oda award in Character Figures Summit War 5.[hide]http://i.imgur.com/RuKCUAx.jpg[/hide]- Oda called him Urouge-san. (Volume 57 SBS)[hide]http://i.imgur.com/nMckXfz.jpg[/hide]Urouge is so popular among Japanese audience that they sometimes made funny pics about him.[hide]http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/onesokuone/imgs/1/d/1de7743d-s.png
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Urouge reaches Raftel in the first episode of his cover story.
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Holy shit! Share The Urouge became the real deal.
The giant cake ship, I can buy. Appetite is a bit far-fetched though - we've been introduced to a bunch of gluttons over the past 15 years, including Luffy, and that didn't make any of them Charlotte candidates. In fact, I think don't any of the confirmed Charlotte children were introduced as big eaters.
I fail to see how the time-related fruit would hint at her being a Charlotte daughter either.
There is definitely something with her though, considering how eager Akainu was to capture her.
It's the fact that she's a FEMALE character and a glutton though. You don't exactly see many "beautiful" females in this series written tomboyish at all besides maybe Vivi. On its own, it's pretty meaningless, but paired with the cake ship is a bit of a weird coincidence. And of course, a time-related fruit doesn't have to be related in any major way, but it would have potential to somehow counter Big Mom's powers pretty conveniently. It's mainly the fact that all of these traits are in her that makes it a bit too coincidental in hindsight, which is why I can understand why people connect her to Big Mom despite the major holes in the theory regarding being born in one of the Blues and having a different last name. It's not as ridiculous and reaching as say, Killer Vinsmoke, to give a comparison.
She was also crying at Whitebeard's death, which is probably why she caught up with Blackbeard in the first place. That's pretty interesting.
Urouge hype in this chapter reminds me of Oda's quote in Color Walk 6 which says, "I get annoyed to hear people speaking ill of characters in ONE PIECE. For example, when they say ‘this villain is weak’, I can't help thinking that then I'll make him much stronger!"
Perhaps Oda loves Urouge since
- Urouge is the only supernova who has more than 2 hobbies. (Volume 82 SBS)
- Oda selected Urouge as his favorite character figure and gave special Oda award in Character Figures Summit War 5.[hide]http://i.imgur.com/RuKCUAx.jpg[/hide]- Oda called him Urouge-san. (Volume 57 SBS)[hide]http://i.imgur.com/nMckXfz.jpg[/hide]Urouge is so popular among Japanese audience that they sometimes made funny pics about him.[hide]http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/onesokuone/imgs/1/d/1de7743d-s.png
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Urouge reaches Raftel in the first episode of his cover story.
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Share the Urouge just became a hundred times funnier. Japan please.
Urouge hype in this chapter reminds me of Oda's quote in Color Walk 6 which says, "I get annoyed to hear people speaking ill of characters in ONE PIECE. For example, when they say ‘this villain is weak’, I can't help thinking that then I'll make him much stronger!"
Perhaps Oda loves Urouge since
- Urouge is the only supernova who has more than 2 hobbies. (Volume 82 SBS)
- Oda selected Urouge as his favorite character figure and gave special Oda award in Character Figures Summit War 5.[hide][qimg]http://i.imgur.com/RuKCUAx.jpg[/qimg][/hide]- Oda called him Urouge-san. (Volume 57 SBS)[hide][qimg]http://i.imgur.com/nMckXfz.jpg[/qimg][/hide]Urouge is so popular among Japanese audience that they sometimes made funny pics about him.[hide][qimg]http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/onesokuone/imgs/1/d/1de7743d-s.png[/qimg]
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Urouge reaches Raftel in the first episode of his cover story.
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Funny stuff, sandman. I do. Wonder who's Oda's top 10 currently are. I bet he changes it a lot :p
Also, Funny enough I read a similar things about villains from Araki about Jojo part 4. Manga authors love their villains
Urouge is no villain. He's a protagonist.
So, so far we have Bonney, Killer and even Croc on the list of people attending the wedding. Any other suggestions? I'd bet on some CP agents.
Urouge is no villain. He's a protagonist.
I don't think Oda was referring exclusively to villains, just quoted a common saying.
Urouge is no villain. He's a protagonist.So, so far we have Bonney, Killer and even Croc on the list of people attending the wedding. Any other suggestions? I'd bet on some CP agents.
Wait what. Is that's some baseless speculation or some very important hints I missed?
I don't think Oda was referring exclusively to villains, just quoted a common saying.
I know, I just wanted to clear that up ;)
Wait what. Is that's some baseless speculation or some very important hints I missed?
That's only what is speculated by some people here in this thread.
Urouge is no villain. He's a protagonist.
So, so far we have Bonney, Killer and even Croc on the list of people attending the wedding. Any other suggestions? I'd bet on some CP agents.
My speculative guesses:
CP-0
Beast Pirates
3) Queen; another queen like Alice in Wonderland/Looking Glass
Doflamingo Family
4) Monet; she may have a future use, be with Vergo
5) Vergo; Food stuck on face shtick works for Tea Party, Year of Sanji
East Blue
6) Don Krieg; mafia feel to him
7) Gin; with Don Krieg, Year of Sanji
8) Kuro; would fit in a Tea Party atmosphere
People will be so disappointed that the characters they wanted to return in the Tea Party will not be present, because none of them wil appear.
My speculative guesses:
CP-0
- Jabra; looking for girlfriend/wife, Year of Sanji
- Kalifa; had tea with Sanji
Beast Pirates
3) Queen; another queen like Alice in Wonderland/Looking GlassDoflamingo Family
4) Monet; she may have a future use, be with Vergo
5) Vergo; Food stuck on face shtick works for Tea Party, Year of SanjiEast Blue
6) Don Krieg; mafia feel to him
7) Gin; with Don Krieg, Year of Sanji
8) Kuro; would fit in a Tea Party atmosphere
Alot of these are stretches, I can only see Gin and the Don krieg 3000 possibly
@Long:
Alot of these are stretches, I can only see Gin and the Don krieg 3000 possibly
Why are they stretches?
CP-0 were in Dressrosa and attacked Baltigo. I think they have agents in Totland(Jabra and Kalifa) and Wano(Kaku and Kumadori).
I think the Tea Party will be a world building event showing old and new characters interacting learning some valuable information.
My speculative guesses:
CP-0
- Jabra; looking for girlfriend/wife, Year of Sanji
- Kalifa; had tea with Sanji
Beast Pirates
3) Queen; another queen like Alice in Wonderland/Looking GlassDoflamingo Family
4) Monet; she may have a future use, be with Vergo
5) Vergo; Food stuck on face shtick works for Tea Party, Year of SanjiEast Blue
6) Don Krieg; mafia feel to him
7) Gin; with Don Krieg, Year of Sanji
8) Kuro; would fit in a Tea Party atmosphere
Bearious, please, only one impossible suggestion at a time.
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Why are they stretches?
-school motto of Bearious State University
People will be so disappointed that the characters they wanted to return in the Tea Party will not be present, because none of them wil appear.
Why you so heartless, give them hope!
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I think Gaimon will appear at the wedding.
Just some speculations:
1): Luffy will finally reach Gum Gum Ultimate form after Krillin is killed by Kaidou, Year of Sanji.
2): At last we have it revealed that Nami has a penis, Year of Sanji.
3): Oda will begin the transition of turning One Piece into full blown Nazi apologia with Luffy turning to the audience and saying "Did you know international Jewry controls the livelihood of the German people?", Year of Sanji.
@Monkey:
Bearious, please, only one impossible suggestion at a time.
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Okay. That wasn't an explanation. I'm merely making suggestions.
There are known knowns. And known unknowns. Then there are unknown unknowns.
Guessing possible guests for the Tea Party with speculation is fine as long as each guest could feasibly be there.
What makes it impossible? Do you have counters? Do you have any suggestions on the Tea Party Guests not mentioned in manga yet?
Okay. That wasn't an explanation. I'm merely making suggestions.
There are known knowns. And known unknowns. Then there are unknown unknowns.
Guessing possible guests for the Tea Party with speculation is fine as long as each guest could feasibly be there.What makes it impossible? Do you have counters? Do you have any suggestions on the Tea Party Guests not mentioned in manga yet?
Luffy: So you see Chopper, the New World is an ideal frontier for attaining fresh new land for the German people to live on.
Chopper: But Luffy, aren't there already lots of people living there?
Luffy: Yes Chopper…yes there are...
both their heads slowly and inhumanly pivot toward the reader
Luffy & Chopper in monotone: Year of Sanji.
http://mangastream.com/r/one_piece/837/3627/15
http://mangastream.com/r/one_piece/837/3627/17
So is this house the way out of the Seducing Woods?
Urouge hype in this chapter reminds me of Oda's quote in Color Walk 6 which says, "I get annoyed to hear people speaking ill of characters in ONE PIECE. For example, when they say ‘this villain is weak’, I can't help thinking that then I'll make him much stronger!"
Perhaps Oda loves Urouge since
- Urouge is the only supernova who has more than 2 hobbies. (Volume 82 SBS)
- Oda selected Urouge as his favorite character figure and gave special Oda award in Character Figures Summit War 5.[hide]http://i.imgur.com/RuKCUAx.jpg[/hide]- Oda called him Urouge-san. (Volume 57 SBS)[hide]http://i.imgur.com/nMckXfz.jpg[/hide]Urouge is so popular among Japanese audience that they sometimes made funny pics about him.[hide]http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/onesokuone/imgs/1/d/1de7743d-s.png
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Urouge reaches Raftel in the first episode of his cover story.
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Thanks for all this info.
I thought all these Urouge memes were just a massive troll on how random he was, but come to speak of it, Urouge was 48th in the latest popularity poll (without appearing much at all) and 24th in the previous one.
Also, it's interesting to note that Urouge was reintroduced same time an Emperor was introduced in the story.
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Funny stuff, sandman. I do. Wonder who's Oda's top 10 currently are. I bet he changes it a lot :p
I don't think he has favorites.
http://mangastream.com/r/one_piece/837/3627/15
http://mangastream.com/r/one_piece/837/3627/17So is this house the way out of the Seducing Woods?
No it's Don Krieg's house.
@Monkey:
No it's Don Krieg's house.
As funny as that is, no. Maybe Brulee's? Witch in the forest type vibe.
By the way, Don Krieg needs to come back or you'll be wrong, remember?
@Monkey:
Pedro is ultimately going to have less dialogue than Don Krieg.
I thought all these Urouge memes were just a massive troll on how random he was, but come to speak of it, Urouge was 48th in the latest popularity poll (without appearing much at all) and 24th in the previous one.
I'm not sure how Viz translated, but despite his appearance, Urouge has a pretty polite speech style even when he is talking to an enemy. Perhaps it is one of the main reasons why many Japanese love him