@Bigivel:
I totally don't understand you. You say that the genocide is the last thing that should've been done, but you also say that you don't know what he could have done in regards to that.
Are you perhaps implying that the situation presented to the viewers was one where only the "last thing" was an option?
You're posing these questions to me but not exactly explaining what other options was on the table after Danzo decided to attack Shisui stealing his Sharingan. And removing one of the failsafes intended to be used in case stopping the coup via negotiations went nowhere.
@Bigivel:
Are you saying that when somebody punch you in the face what you do next is exposing your private part to allow him to kick you? Because that was exactly what Sarutobi did in the Hinata Kidnaping and Neji Father incident.
We're never told who came up with the idea that put an end to Hyuuga affair all we know is Sarutobi went along with the idea. You also haven't answered what other option was available besides one that could've led to the Cloud and Leaf going to war.
@Bigivel:
So the president of a country/village, can't up and tell nor try to negotiate with one of the country/village members? OK!
The Cloud weren't really in any mood to make peace during the Hyuuga Affair just get what they want. Which was a Hyuuga and which one didn't matter.
@Bigivel:
Don't try to up the words of the others to later be able to disprove it. I said "good as the story tries to pass him".
And yet this is still wrong since it makes Sarutobi out to be someone who as Hokage never made a questionable decision in his position. There's a reason Sasuke wanted to kill the Kages near the end of the story.
@Bigivel:
There has been nothing about the issue, so it basically was put in the side, like it never existed in the first place. That is the thing that is bad. You have a major problem and you don't even talk or show people caring about that problem.
….Okay even if they don't show it or talk about it that doesn't mean you can't answer the question of what were the best methods to deal with these problems. Instead of getting incredulous at people not giving you satisfactory answers to the same questions.
@Bigivel:
First is important to note that the thing that happened is not "Hesitating". Sarutobi intentionally let Orochimaru escape.
By this logic Jiraiya did the same thing the only difference is that he tried to appeal to him before he escaped.
@Bigivel:
Do you even remember the scene? Where King Enma shout a ton of time for Sarutobi to do anything, and he just stand there and let Orochimaru go.
Yes I remember this scene, and I remember him hesitating to stop him because of their relationship, hence why I said he hesitated in stopping him. If he intentionally wanted Orochimaru to get away he wouldn't have showed up to stop him in the first place.
@Bigivel:
And Hesitating is a sign of treason when you are at the front lines and your hesitation was the cause of the increase of your allies deaths.
I don't think you know what is treason is. By this logic the people who had trouble fighting Kabuto's Edo Tensei'ed army because they were people they once knew or simply too powerful are guilty of treason.
@Bigivel:
Are you comparing Orochimaru that escaped in a known location
Are you forgetting the fact that even if they knew Orochimaru was in the sound village (which wasn't really a village and mostly concealed) given his ability to disguise himself they should've just gone there with no guarantee they'd find, capture, or kill him? This isn't even getting into the fact that Orochimaru had different hideouts across the land with that just being one of many.
@Bigivel:
to the members of Akatsuki that the village don't even knew who were and nor had any reason to investigate them?
Considering they would eventually wind up attempting to kidnap Naruto for Kurama that would be reason enough to investigate them.
@Bigivel:
This is like saying that it would made sense for the United States not to know anything about the location of Bin Laden after the Twin Towers attack.
…Off topic and somewhat weird comparison but remind me how that went regarding where Bin Laden would later be found?
@Bigivel:
He didn't know anything about Orochimaru in the Chuunin exam? Are you kidding me?! It was explicitly reported to him, when they found the people without face.
Yes but did they know what has aim and purpose was, because it wasn't to disrupt the Chunnin Exam or kill all of it's participants. Mostly to bump off Sarutobi.
@Bigivel:
Sarutobi said to let things continue and not say nothing to anybody and not stop the Chuunin exam!
Which was most likely done because they didn't know what his aim was, wanted to cause mass panic and essentially tip him off allowing him to escape.
@Bigivel:
Certainly not abandon the kid to his like while he was growing(how Naruto survived as a baby with nobody is still one of the 7 biggest secrets of the world!) and just prohibit talking about the issue.
We can assume he was nurtured by someone up until a certain point. And then monitored to make sure nothing happened to him.
@Cyclone_Baroness:
Not take out their anger on someone who's got a tremendous spirit was locked away inside of them when it's supposedly what the Uzumaki clan is known for anyways.
Not all humans are known for being compassionate and symphathetic people especially when they witness bad things happening to themselves or others. It kind of like our real world problem with how people perceive all muslims based on the actions of a few.
@Cyclone_Baroness:
Naruto's father was stupid for not trying to be there for his son.
It would kind of be hard to be there with being dead and all along with your spirit being trapped in a death god….though you can somehow commune with your son spirtually after he loses his shit in order to calm him down.