this is rather interesting, NEO thrives on scaring his victims to submission, but toriko wants to eat him, guess we'll see a slugfest
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Toriko III: It's Over!!
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Trying to eat Neo, what a novel idea. I'm sure none of the thousand of beasts who fought Neo so far tried something like that before -_-
I guess that Shima's editor already gave up and has asked for an earlier retirement.
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@Zp1:
NEO probably feels trolled right about now.
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Actually. If you think about it, NEO devoured a ton of things in the Blue Universe before going to the Red universe right? Toriko taking a bite out of NEO might have been all he needed to fully awaken his Blue demon. Because NEO effectively has the essence of a whole bunch of Blue universe items condensed into him.[/QUOTE
Yes. Neo devoured (don't know to what extent) Blueverse before going Red.
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So, who won that bet between Toriko and Aimaru anyway?
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I don't even know who that fat guy is. Was he originally a good guy or a bad guy and does that even matter?
He is Apollo and he was one of the participants of the Cooking Fest. He specializes is ingredients from space.
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So Toriko has NOTHING AT ALL against Neo. NOTHING. AT. ALL. Against him.
Except, you know, he killed Jirou, something Toriko pointed out last week.
Or JiJi, who we know was an asshole but, apparently, in-universe, the main cast liked him.
Or being the man responsible for the inminent destruction of the planet.
Aside from that, you know, he's ok. Nothing against him.
The dragon had a nice design, and Toriko biting Neo was funny enough. Everything else is mind numbingly boring. Everytime they start talking about the back channel I wanna gouge my eyes out. And BOY do they like to talk about back channels!
Exposition in Toriko has become so annoying. It's all over the place, it's boring, it's reiterative and yet, at the same time, manages to become too convulted for its own good. I'm not against exposition in manga per se, but there's exposition, and then there's this. This simply doesn't work, and it hasn't worked since the underwater arc.
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So Toriko has NOTHING AT ALL against Neo. NOTHING. AT. ALL. Against him.
Except, you know, he killed Jirou, something Toriko pointed out last week.
Or JiJi, who we know was an asshole but, apparently, in-universe, the main cast liked him.
Or being the man responsible for the inminent destruction of the planet.
Aside from that, you know, he's ok. Nothing against him.
The dragon had a nice design, and Toriko biting Neo was funny enough. Everything else is mind numbingly boring. Everytime they start talking about the back channel I wanna gouge my eyes out. And BOY do they like to talk about back channels!
Exposition in Toriko has become so annoying. It's all over the place, it's boring, it's reiterative and yet, at the same time, manages to become too convulted for its own good. I'm not against exposition in manga per se, but there's exposition, and then there's this. This simply doesn't work, and it hasn't worked since the underwater arc.
I loved expositions in Toriko when it was Coco theorizing about the core of the universe and the farthest lands. I don't know from which chapter this scene I remember was. But the main problem with the expositions is, for me, they come from people we don't really know or care. Considering story-wise we care for 4HK and since they know nothing and generally discovered things on their own mostly with their unique powers, expositions were ok. Then suddenly we got to this.
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I think it is a good time that Toriko spent his time on the Gourmet Temple to control his rage and appreciate even in the most dire moments.
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So Toriko has NOTHING AT ALL against Neo. NOTHING. AT. ALL. Against him.
Except, you know, he killed Jirou, something Toriko pointed out last week.
Or JiJi, who we know was an asshole but, apparently, in-universe, the main cast liked him.
Or being the man responsible for the inminent destruction of the planet.
Aside from that, you know, he's ok. Nothing against him.
The dragon had a nice design, and Toriko biting Neo was funny enough. Everything else is mind numbingly boring. Everytime they start talking about the back channel I wanna gouge my eyes out. And BOY do they like to talk about back channels!
Exposition in Toriko has become so annoying. It's all over the place, it's boring, it's reiterative and yet, at the same time, manages to become too convulted for its own good. I'm not against exposition in manga per se, but there's exposition, and then there's this. This simply doesn't work, and it hasn't worked since the underwater arc.
Chill out, it's just a manga. Get a girlfriend or something..
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Funny how the kings are like: Fuck the Neo situation and their silly god. We're eating the real good.
The dragon look cool.
Toriko deciding to put Neo in his full course and biting him was fun. Reminded me choosing the other dishes.
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So Toriko has NOTHING AT ALL against Neo. NOTHING. AT. ALL. Against him.
Except, you know, he killed Jirou, something Toriko pointed out last week.
Or JiJi, who we know was an asshole but, apparently, in-universe, the main cast liked him.
Or being the man responsible for the inminent destruction of the planet.
Aside from that, you know, he's ok. Nothing against him.
You can say he hates Acacia not Neo. He does have a policy of not being mad at someone just feeding himself. At least we sure he is going to die now. We could have had Komatsu cooking for him.
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I mean when Toriko's first conversation with Midora quickly turned to "Hey man let's eat GOD together", it honestly isn't that surprising that he's like "Nah Acacia we cool. I just gotta get some of that meat."
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@Purple:
I mean when Toriko's first conversation with Midora quickly turned to "Hey man let's eat GOD together", it honestly isn't that surprising that he's like "Nah Acacia we cool. I just gotta get some of that meat."
True that. Sad thing is we still don't feel like there is such a theme established that this response of Toriko feels familiar to it. Still out of place as that first time you mentioned.
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So Toriko has NOTHING AT ALL against Neo. NOTHING. AT. ALL. Against him.
Except, you know, he killed Jirou, something Toriko pointed out last week.
Or JiJi, who we know was an asshole but, apparently, in-universe, the main cast liked him.
Or being the man responsible for the inminent destruction of the planet.
Aside from that, you know, he's ok. Nothing against him.
On the one hand, I respect that Shima tries sticking to the weird, unrelatable moral compass of the food-centric Torikoverse.
But on the other, he's still clearly villainizing Neo/Acacia to the extreme, showing that their way of eating stuff is totes wrong and evil. Since this is the world-ending finale for the series, he tries getting us readers invested in seeing the final boss taken down…but he undercuts it through the heroes' blassé reactions. It just creates a more superficial type of engamenet, which may of course be all Shima ever wanted - but then he still makes entire chapters devoted to showcasing Neo as sadistic nightmare fuel.
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@Daz:
On the one hand, I respect that Shima tries sticking to the weird, unrelatable moral compass of the food-centric Torikoverse.
But on the other, he's still clearly villainizing Neo/Acacia to the extreme, showing that their way of eating stuff is totes wrong and evil. Since this is the world-ending finale for the series, he tries getting us readers invested in seeing the final boss taken down…but he undercuts it through the heroes' blassé reactions. It just creates a more superficial type of engamenet, which may of course be all Shima ever wanted - but then he still makes entire chapters devoted to showcasing Neo as sadistic nightmare fuel.
But it's as you say, Shima makes an effort to portray these actions as evuuulz, but then he's like "oh, but there's no right or wrong in the Torikoverse! Just gourmetinsert-word-here!". It doesn't work like that.
I mean, I've never liked HxH's Gon because he's this amoral kid that's mainly driven by curiosity, but at least that's something that's constantly reminded to us. Toriko just from time to time appears to be this "oh, you're Hitler, you say? Wathever, wanna eat together?" guy that's, honestly, kinda jarring.
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I can't see anything :(
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Thanks a lot. Nothing to say, for now. We have to wait for the whole chapter to comment.
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I don't even bother reading spoilers when the chapter comes out within 10 hours of the spoilers being posted lol.
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The "Talk to The Hand" Chapter.
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good chapter and i was correct about the chapter coming out within 10 hours of the spoilers lol.
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Hi Tommyrod. Bye Tommyrod.
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Me trying to find some sense in this chapter:
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So Acacia has the power of the God Hand, so his best move would be to Dragon Kick everyone's ass into the milky way.
The part where God hit Acacia/Neo to the other side of the earth multiple times was pretty cool. Not a fan of the other three kings getting taken down so easily, and not looking forward to the father reveal, because we really need more of that. Also, can we have one fighting chapter without exposition? I thought with Gigi gone that was over, but now the Blue Nitro are taking over for exposition dump.
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11,5 hours actually
So are they saying CENTER is a gourmet demon?
Maybe but if it was made up of 100% gourmet cells i guess that would stop the nitro eating it as well.
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Why did Toriko suddenly got 2 Stands? Those were just manifestations that then turned into transformations and now this. Like what it was abstract became concrect.
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There were some good things here but then Shima lost focus and it all turned into a big mess again. Like did you really offscreen Tommyrod, Grinpatch and three of the Kings? Jesus.
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So real Gods eat with their hands. Good to know. Too bad the only God we see is eating with his extra long tongue haha. I really don't want to believe that Shima is going to skip the three kings fight but I'm not optimistic. Is Toriko manifesting his demon's or fighting with his demon's or turning into his demon's because it all seems really confusing.
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God slamming TumorCacia across the entire planet with his tongue. That's the kind of stuff befitting of Toriko's final climax.
Toriko using stand demons, BoringJoa using FoodBore to offscreen 5 beloved characters + more exposition, nah, could do without that crap, but at this point, it's asking for a bit much maybe.
So, thankful for the eye candy!
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Why did Toriko suddenly got 2 Stands? Those were just manifestations that then turned into transformations and now this. Like what it was abstract became concrect.
Same question.
On the other hand, Shima, are you trying to tell me Toriko could match Acacia/Neo when Zebra, Coco, Sunny and their Demons can't do a thing against Joa? Come on! Oh, damn, there's the third demon…Toriko is strong, but without his demons he would be long dead.
And now what's up with Star sentence to Joa? Is he speaking of some incredible parents or appetite?
Well, I must accept the manga as it is right now, no more questions.
I both liked and disliked the skipped-off battle between Bishokukai and thier former comrades. I was expecting to see some Kuromado and Dores action.
And still I miss people like Rapp, Ryu, Malisman, Megarodras, Goblin Ramon and all the other 0th Biotope members. -
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What happened to this manga?
Said it before, but this, Bleach, and Naruto are all good indicators of just how crazy-hard it is to keep a quality manga running for more than a decade. And this one may have already collapsed more than Naruto ever did.
Hang in there, Kierkegaard.
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In before the 3 "dead" Kings are actually sentient poison dummies.
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Actually, what would be worst? Off-panelled for good, or saved by our beloved immoral ass-pull?
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What happened to this manga?
Said it before, but this, Bleach, and Naruto are all good indicators of just how crazy-hard it is to keep a quality manga running for more than a decade. And this one may have already collapsed more than Naruto ever did.
It is probably the Editorial Staff's fault. There are some things that I am pretty sure it wasn't in the original script.
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I guess Starjun and Toriko's father is famous.
Some long-term predictions: Vegapunk with Paw-Paw fruit for Nakama!!! Kaidou is gonna be killed by Blackbeard and get his strongest Zoan DF!!!
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That's why it feels so good to eat burgers, it is an act of god.
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In before the 3 "dead" Kings are actually sentient poison dummies.
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Actually, what would be worst? Off-panelled for good, or saved by our beloved immoral ass-pull?
Didn´t you learn anything from Area 6? Now we´ll have a flashback that shows exactly how the whole epic thing happened.
Bbut then the Kings will be defeated in 2 chapters.
At that point we´ll be like "No way, look at Joie´s clothes in chapter 374. Something more definitly happened there, the Kings are not yet defeated!"
And then she will trip and her cloths will get dirty.
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I guess Starjun and Toriko's father is famous.
Midora would probably qualify as famous, yes.
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I always wondered at what point Oda finally sat down with all his notebooks and plot charts and finally gave himself a timeframe for finishing off One Piece after it became clear he wasn't going to be the relatively short little jaunt he imagined. What must it have felt like to realize that the crippling schedule of a mangaka was going to be his until well into his adult life? It must have been weird realizing there wasn't any good and noble way out except to plug along and do the best he could.
See, that's what I think happened to Shima. He got everything together, looked at his notes for the Gourmet World, and thought, "I don't want to do this any more." And that's how we got modern Toriko.
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I always wondered at what point Oda finally sat down with all his notebooks and plot charts and finally gave himself a timeframe for finishing off One Piece after it became clear he wasn't going to be the relatively short little jaunt he imagined. What must it have felt like to realize that the crippling schedule of a mangaka was going to be his until well into his adult life? It must have been weird realizing there wasn't any good and noble way out except to plug along and do the best he could.
See, that's what I think happened to Shima. He got everything together, looked at his notes for the Gourmet World, and thought, "I don't want to do this any more." And that's how we got modern Toriko.
Sadly, I think that's what happened with Naruto also.
Not Bleach though. You could tell there was no planning since the earlier chapters.
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Didn´t you learn anything from Area 6? Now we´ll have a flashback that shows exactly how the whole epic thing happened.
Bbut then the Kings will be defeated in 2 chapters.
At that point we´ll be like "No way, look at Joie´s clothes in chapter 374. Something more definitly happened there, the Kings are not yet defeated!"
And then she will trip and her cloths will get dirty.
And we´ll be back to Star vs Joa, or whatever her name is.True story. But which one is [AREA 6] though? It's been a while since characters and Shima don't care about locations!
Also, despite how funny and enjoyable is God, I find it to be kind of a lackluster… I mean, having whole-Earth reach with just his tongue is fine, but, meh, we just saw how it played for the guy who could stop the planet with a half-assed punch and a king of demons that ate supernovas for breakfast.
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So whose the famous Dad going to be? Ichiyru perhaps??!!
SAILING AGAIN FOR THE NEW WORLD
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So whose the famous Dad going to be? Ichiyru perhaps??!!
I don't know if you're serious but it has already been revealed to be midora.
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I always wondered at what point Oda finally sat down with all his notebooks and plot charts and finally gave himself a timeframe for finishing off One Piece after it became clear he wasn't going to be the relatively short little jaunt he imagined. What must it have felt like to realize that the crippling schedule of a mangaka was going to be his until well into his adult life? It must have been weird realizing there wasn't any good and noble way out except to plug along and do the best he could.
See, that's what I think happened to Shima. He got everything together, looked at his notes for the Gourmet World, and thought, "I don't want to do this any more." And that's how we got modern Toriko.
One piece was successful and popular so why would he take the risk ending it early when he can take his time and make more money and starting a new manga that might not do as well? It would have been rushed like toriko is not if it has not been as successful.
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I always wondered at what point Oda finally sat down with all his notebooks and plot charts and finally gave himself a timeframe for finishing off One Piece after it became clear he wasn't going to be the relatively short little jaunt he imagined. What must it have felt like to realize that the crippling schedule of a mangaka was going to be his until well into his adult life? It must have been weird realizing there wasn't any good and noble way out except to plug along and do the best he could.
You make it sound as though Oda doesn't want to make OP and that making it or being a mangaka in general is a negative thing.
It's a labor of love. He puts effort into it because he wants to be good, not because it's an obligation.
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You make it sound as though Oda doesn't want to make OP and that making it or being a mangaka in general is a negative thing.
It's a labor of love. He puts effort into it because he wants to be good, not because it's an obligation.
Cant say I see much love on One Piece on the recent years. Its more like an office work for Oda at this stage.
I dont want to be incendiary or anything, but I prefer the crazy approach of Shima. He is clearly tired of the series, or he was told to end it on a short break, so he had thrown common sense out of the window.
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@sanji''s_dad:
I don't know if you're serious but it has already been revealed to be midora.
Nope. It wasn't.
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You make it sound as though Oda doesn't want to make OP and that making it or being a mangaka in general is a negative thing.
It's a labor of love. He puts effort into it because he wants to be good, not because it's an obligation.
There's a difference between a labor of love and a labor of love on someone else's deadlines and timeframe. Committing to a manga as your labor of love means a very rigorous weekly commitment (or monthly or whatever) for decades at a time. Can see why so many seem to just chuck it out the window ten years in.
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Well I'm not sure what is your idea about a good story and how it should go, but I'm fully enjoying the manga as it is so far. No alarm bells triggering for me to indicate blatant nonsense yet.
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Same question.
On the other hand, Shima, are you trying to tell me Toriko could match Acacia/Neo when Zebra, Coco, Sunny and their Demons can't do a thing against Joa? Come on! Oh, damn, there's the third demon…Toriko is strong, but without his demons he would be long dead.
And now what's up with Star sentence to Joa? Is he speaking of some incredible parents or appetite?
Well, I must accept the manga as it is right now, no more questions.
I both liked and disliked the skipped-off battle between Bishokukai and thier former comrades. I was expecting to see some Kuromado and Dores action.
And still I miss people like Rapp, Ryu, Malisman, Megarodras, Goblin Ramon and all the other 0th Biotope members.Read the manga title it says toriko he is a special snow flake even more than naruto since naruto had to be given his monster also toriko has 3 and his third demon makes neo look like a old dog turd in power difference looks like some sort of angel lol.
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There's a difference between a labor of love and a labor of love on someone else's deadlines and timeframe. Committing to a manga as your labor of love means a very rigorous weekly commitment (or monthly or whatever) for decades at a time. Can see why so many seem to just chuck it out the window ten years in.
That's why I'm a proponent of a manga not going more than 10 years at a time. After the 10 years, if you want to continue a story as a GT or "beyond" phase…that's up to the mangaka, the profitability of the thing and the support your publisher gives you...just think it's too easy to become bored, whether it's the readers or the mangaka his or herself.
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It's one thing if you start reading a manga that becomes fabulously popular when you're 10 to 15 years old. You grow up with it.
Life is finite folks. Younger kids don't think much about that stuff as children or teens...but if you have a plan to have your ultimate storyline take 30 years to complete, man...it better be an epic story.
People age. They get illnesses. Families. Other distractions. Too easy for mangaka to get tired or bored.
