@Cyan:
! Why is Wonder Woman's symbol the WWE logo?
! Wonder Woman Entertainment?
@Cyan:
! Why is Wonder Woman's symbol the WWE logo?
! Wonder Woman Entertainment?
http://www.filmfreakcentral.net/ffc/2016/03/batman-v-superman-dawn-of-justice.html
How many scarred children going to fun superhero movie with mom and dad will this movie produce?
I asked someone who had seen the movie to elaborate on this, since it sounds too nasty to be true.
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100% true.
"Superman is blackmailed into murder" => Luthor wants to prove that Supes isn't good / can't stay good so he takes his mom in hostage and blackmails him into killing Batman in the span time of an hour. Which doesn't go as planned.
"suicide bombers" => a guy who lost his legs in the battle of Metropolis bombs an audience between Superman and a senator (I think). Bomb given by Luthor.
"references to pedophiles and sex slavery, cages full of brutalized, filthy Asian women and all" => Yup. Batman saves asian sex slaves from a nameless slaver who he thinks will help him trace someone involved in an event that tarnished Supes' reputation.
"Polaroid snapshots of a beloved character, gagged and terrified with terrible things written on her forehead" => Superman's mom. Witch was written on her forehead. Luthor is threatening to have her burned alive.
"It includes a "thank you" to Frank Miller in its closing credits" => That I can't confirm. I left the minute the credits started rolling. It wouldn't surprise me though.
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I dont like the cheesy parts in BvS. They just dont work.
I expected an awesome Opening scene, like Watchmen 'times there are a changing', but it was pretty lame.
Weird editing?!?
Actually not much action O.o. Lets say 20 minutes of the movie…
Some unneccesary scenes, like the nightmare part.
The actual action wasnt that awesome o.O
I hate cryptonite, always did.
The whole ending is useless.
Jesse promised that the scene where he 'loses' his hair is the best scene he ever did. But he wasnt serious. He tricked me...
Damn now I actually feel p bad. Of all of us, he was probably the most optimistic about the movie
Just seen it. One word:
! Mediocre.
! In some more words: Decent actors, cool action. But how was that movie so long? Nothing happened. Plot moved like lava. And in between the slow moving story was symbolism, shoved in your face on every corner. And don't get me started on the constant Zack Snyder slowmotion. Way too much, especially when you have a boring first 1 and 1/2 hour. And when you need dreamsequences to somehow action up your plot, something isn't right with your script imo.
! Also, WW had not enough lines to even shine. Even her origin wasn't explained properly. So I would say her shortcomings weren't Gal Gadots fault.
Just seen it. One word:
! Mediocre.
! In some more words: Decent actors, cool action. But how was that movie so long? Nothing happened. Plot moved like lava. And in between the slow moving story was symbolism, shoved in your face on every corner. And don't get me started on the constant Zack Snyder slowmotion. Way too much, especially when you have a boring first 1 and 1/2 hour. And when you need dreamsequences to somehow action up your plot, something isn't right with your script imo.
! Also, WW had not enough lines to even shine. Even her origin wasn't explained properly. So I would say her shortcomings weren't Gal Gadots fault.
Let me fix that for you.
One word:
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Well, it also has some great parts. See for yourself. We were 5 and they liked it alot. I just had other expectations. The trailers are misleading, so i had a Version in my head which i had to replace scene by scene with the actual movie. Maybe i think otherwise when i watch it a second time.
36% on RT but Audience is at 86%.
At this point, I'm just going to wait for an okay cam rip or the dvd release.
I have the feeling that the directors cut will be a huge improvement. Some scenes seem to be cut off instead of having a smooth end. And the movie needs more action…
Now let's talk about money. At this rate it hitting 1 billion is not very likely. I'd just be very surprised if it did. I was never of the ilk who thought this movie was going to hit a billion anyway but now…? I really, really don't think so. They done screwed the pooch. If this movie is as boring as people are making it out to be then word of mouth will tank this film well before it hits that "B" note.
It's still going to hit 1 billion. I'll wear an avatar and/or sig of shame for a month if it doesn't.
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36% on RT but Audience is at 86%.
It's below Wolverine Origins now (38%). Will it reach Green Lantern?
36% on RT but Audience is at 86%.
Well that really isn't surprising. I mean it was 8.8 on IMDB last time i checked and the reviews were filled with "AWESOME ACTION = BEST SUPERHERO MOVIE OF ALL TIME". Most casual movie goer's/ comic book readers are definitely going to be satisfied with this movie with all the CGI and what not.
God Damnit Batman. It's Man of Steel all over again.
A lot of BvS reviews on IMDB are written by people who just recently made an account, and it was their first and only review….... Hmmmm that doesn't sound suspicious at all....
36% on RT but Audience is at 86%.
A huuuuuge chunk of the audience reviews were from BEFORE the movie came out though. Of the 1400 reviews, at least 1200 are from before the movie came out. I noticed there were a ton of reviews from audiences already when we were waiting on the irst reviews to trickle in. A lot of the 5 star reviews are from people that were going to see the movie, and had not actually seen it. Some of those are from months ago, going as far back as November 2014.
Not surprisingly, comic book fans love it: http://www.newsarama.com/28529-newsarama-readers-review-batman-v-superman-dawn-of-justice.html
God Damnit Batman. It's Man of Steel all over again.
Doubt it. At this rate BvS is probably hoping to be as liked as MoS.
I'll post my thoughts after I watch it tomorrow night
! > If you were upset because Superman broke General Zod’s neck in Man Of Steel, you will most likely burst a blood vessel when you see Batman, Serial Murderer as he gleefully destroys criminals in this film, often with high caliber firearms. One of the sequences in which he guns down a batch of people is a dream… maybe… but there’s another where there’s a huge body count that he is directly overtly responsible for, and by the time it ended, I was really confused about what I was watching. This is supposedly a film in which the two greatest heroes of the DC universe end up fighting, but I don’t see how either Batman or Superman is meant to be the hero of this film. Snyder’s Batman is already burnt out and cynical, heartbroken by what we have to presume was the death of Robin at some point. He’s graduated from just capturing bad guys to branding them so that people in prison know they’re supposed to kill them. Seriously.
Geebus that's completely wrong and awful.
Well that really isn't surprising. I mean it was 8.8 on IMDB last time i checked and the reviews were filled with "AWESOME ACTION = BEST SUPERHERO MOVIE OF ALL TIME". Most casual movie goer's/ comic book readers are definitely going to be satisfied with this movie with all the CGI and what not.
Again, a bunch of CGI and fight scenes does not automatically translate to great audience reviews. Look no further than most of the Transformers movies for proof.
Or the Ninja Turtles Movie…
If the audience is liking the movie it goes beyond just how much CGI is thrown on it and how much action there is. In fact, reading plenty of reviews there seems to be a mixed reaction of "too many explosions" and "not enough action".
http://www.ew.com/article/2016/03/21/zack-snyder-grant-gustin-flash-justice-league
This is hilarious. I know the prospect of a TV Flash being in the film was probably impossible, but Snyder's reasoning is the best part. "No fun allowed".
@Galaxy:
http://www.ew.com/article/2016/03/21/zack-snyder-grant-gustin-flash-justice-league
This is hilarious. I know the prospect of a TV Flash being in the film was probably impossible, but Snyder's reasoning is the best part. "No fun allowed".
I love that some WB guy said a week ago that what makes the DC movies unique is that they are all filmmaker-driven, but apparantly they still have to fit within Zack Snyder's vision.
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Again, a bunch of CGI and fight scenes does not automatically translate to great audience reviews. Look no further than most of the Transformers movies for proof.
Or the Ninja Turtles Movie…
If the audience is liking the movie it goes beyond just how much CGI is thrown on it and how much action there is. In fact, reading plenty of reviews there seems to be a mixed reaction of "too many explosions" and "not enough action".
The Transformers box office returns expanded with each new movie though. And I've seen nothing but hype for the new TMNT movie despite the first one being a dumpster fire.
You want to know something even scarier about this image.
This score is old. IT JUST REACHED 33%.
http://i.4cdn.org/tv/1458782650448.png
You want to know something even scarier about this image.
This score is old. IT JUST REACHED 33%.
Paul Bat: Mall Cop
The Transformers box office returns expanded with each new movie though. And I've seen nothing but hype for the new TMNT movie despite the first one being a dumpster fire.
Yeah, but I'm not talking about money when it comes to how an audience receives and a views a movie. How much money a film makes and its critical reception are not always linked. Sometimes they're completely separate. You can have movies that are critically praised by basically everyone but don't do as well as they should at the box office. Edge of Tomorrow is a great example of that. Then you have movies like most of the Transformers which are panned by basically everyone but still make a killing.
But that's really besides the point I'm making. I pointed out the Transformers movies not because of how much money they made but because of their audience reviews. Most of those movies weren't only disliked by the critics but by the "casual moviegoers" as well. That's proof enough you can't just have a bunch of CGI and fight scenes to get great audience reviews.
Jumping back to my previous comment on the topic I already pointed out movies like Avatar to be an exception…
You want to know something even scarier about this image.
This score is old. IT JUST REACHED 33%.
The actual audience seems to like it though
The actual audience seems to like it though
Robby already brought it up but the audience reviews don't really mean much when reviews also exist months before the actual release
I'll never understand why they don't limit audience reviews until the day the movie officially releases. It'd stop that from happening.
@Purple:
Robby already brought it up but the audience reviews don't really mean much when reviews also exist months before the actual release
Ah I don't go on RT so didn't think they ever let reviews go up that early.
@Galaxy:
I'll never understand why they don't limit audience reviews until the day the movie officially releases. It'd stop that from happening.
Prescreening perhaps, and BvS did premiere last week. Still, yeah, doesn't amke much sense when it's just love it or hate it reviews with quite a few reviews being "BATMAN V SUPERMAN SOOOOO AWESOME!!!"
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This sort of shit that confounds the data
A huuuuuge chunk of the audience reviews were from BEFORE the movie came out though. Of the 1400 reviews, at least 1200 are from before the movie came out. I noticed there were a ton of reviews from audiences already when we were waiting on the irst reviews to trickle in. A lot of the 5 star reviews are from people that were going to see the movie, and had not actually seen it. Some of those are from months ago, going as far back as November 2014.
@Purple:
Robby already brought it up but the audience reviews don't really mean much when reviews also exist months before the actual release
I'm not seeing that and I checked. Most of those rated audience reviews are from March of this year. Many older dated "reviews" aren't reviews at all and offer no opinion are only categorized as "want to see it". Then there are older dated reviews consisting of people who saw early screenings.
Though for some reason I can't seem to get past page 38 (or is it 39?) to see all the reviews dated older or newer as they don't seem to all be in chronological order regardless of page.
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@Purple:
Prescreening perhaps, and BvS did premiere last week. Still, yeah, doesn't amke much sense when it's just love it or hate it reviews with quite a few reviews being "BATMAN V SUPERMAN SOOOOO AWESOME!!!"
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http://puu.sh/nRJc5/8fee4d92af.png
This sort of shit that confounds the data
Yeah, and there are reviews like that but that's not the majority either.
@Purple:
Prescreening perhaps, and BvS did premiere last week. Still, yeah, doesn't amke much sense when it's just love it or hate it reviews with quite a few reviews being "BATMAN V SUPERMAN SOOOOO AWESOME!!!"
Well, even opening up the ratings a week in advance would quell some of this.
There definitely shouldn't be any allowed from 2014, for example.
!
I'm so tempted to bitch about plot points, but I'm going to wait until this movie is out and everyone is screaming louder than I possibly could.
Yeah, and there are reviews like that but that's not the majority either.
Well, if you go back to Page 38 and sort by date, you can see some stars that go back years, among some "I want to see it" reviews. And then some are writing as early as last week that they haven't seen it, but that they liked the trailer, or that they think the poster looked cool.
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/batman_v_superman_dawn_of_justice/reviews/?page=38&type=user&sort=
@Galaxy:
Well, even opening up the ratings a week in advance would quell some of this.
There definitely shouldn't be any allowed from 2014, for example.
The general consensus is that if a big movie is preventing reviews all the way until the last minute they have more than just spoilers to hide. The movie probably sucks and they don't want bad word of mouth to draw people away from wasting their money.
In that effect it actually keeps people away from the movie even more because now they don't trust it and will definitely wait until other people see it and review it before they give it a chance. Buuuuut if a movie lets reviews roll out a few days before release it's seen as a goodwill to the audience. That they trust and have faith in their movie and their audience to see it no matter what the reviews.
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@Galaxy:
Well, if you go back to Page 38 and sort by date, you can see some stars that go back years, among some "I want to see it" reviews. And then some are writing as early as last week that they haven't seen it, but that they liked the trailer, or that they think the poster looked cool.
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/batman_v_superman_dawn_of_justice/reviews/?page=38&type=user&sort=
True but those are the older "reviews" that I was talking about that don't actually give stars and thus have no affect on the rating. On that page there's only 1 reviewer that gave it 5 stars. Everyone else either raises the percentage of people who "want to see it" or raises the percentage of people who "are not interested". Neither of those affect the star rating, I don't think.
Geebus that's completely wrong and awful.
Going from some reviewers, it feels that both Supes and Bats are major sociopaths in this movie.
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http://i.4cdn.org/tv/1458782650448.png
You want to know something even scarier about this image.
This score is old. IT JUST REACHED 33%.
It's officially worse than…
@Galaxy:
Well, if you go back to Page 38 and sort by date, you can see some stars that go back years, among some "I want to see it" reviews. And then some are writing as early as last week that they haven't seen it, but that they liked the trailer, or that they think the poster looked cool.
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/batman_v_superman_dawn_of_justice/reviews/?page=38&type=user&sort=
I just found this. Going by this description off the site the user reviews are rated by the stars and not others symbols like the blue plus signs or red stop-like symbols.
I just found this. Going by this description off the site the user reviews are rated by the stars and not others symbols like the blue plus signs or red stop-like symbols.
Yeah, I know. I didn't mean just the page I linked though. As you get closer to the date, more actual stars appear, and some of them are months ago/a few weeks ago. Those are the ones that I meant shouldn't have been allowed at all.
Even some of the newer ones are based on the trailer and promotional material though. I'd bet it's probably just some people that forgot to click the right rating option.
Well, there will definitely always be those kinds or "reviews" from people who haven't actually seen the film (fanboys, fanboys everywhere) but regardless most of the reviews seem to be coming from users who have actually seen it.
Well, worst comes to worst, we can defer to other users here for their opinions, and so far even for people who have been optimistic, it's a pretty strong ehhhhhhhhhh
Takto's review has me worried the most lol.
Takto is the kid in that gif I posted actually.
I was as skeptical as anyone else, but I had planned on seeing it since one of my classes was offering it as extra credit. But now, after these bad reviews? I'm not even sure if a $5 matinee will be worth it. =/
http://www.filmfreakcentral.net/ffc/2016/03/batman-v-superman-dawn-of-justice.html
How many scarred children going to fun superhero movie with mom and dad will this movie produce?
lol at the mention of Snyder making BvS a better Watchmen film than Watchmen itself.
! If you were upset because Superman broke General Zod’s neck in Man Of Steel, you will most likely burst a blood vessel when you see Batman, Serial Murderer as he gleefully destroys criminals in this film, often with high caliber firearms. One of the sequences in which he guns down a batch of people is a dream… maybe… but there’s another where there’s a huge body count that he is directly overtly responsible for, and by the time it ended, I was really confused about what I was watching. This is supposedly a film in which the two greatest heroes of the DC universe end up fighting, but I don’t see how either Batman or Superman is meant to be the hero of this film. Snyder’s Batman is already burnt out and cynical, heartbroken by what we have to presume was the death of Robin at some point. He’s graduated from just capturing bad guys to branding them so that people in prison know they’re supposed to kill them. Seriously.
Geebus that's completely wrong and awful.
! So… He's now a less interesting Punisher?
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@Cyan:
Here's a fun article about how, surprise surprise, Snyder is a Randroid
This explains the fuck out of Pa Kent imploring Clark not to save people.
Oh goodness, comparing Snyder to a parrot is so spot on:
a parrot trained to greet visitors with a hearty ‘Hello! Good to see you!’ It doesn’t have a fucking clue what it’s saying but somehow the audience is convinced it’s language.
It does explain Watchmen. A movie that was scripted and storyboarded for him in detail, that he didn't really deviate from at all on a surface level, and STILL managed to miss the point and the tone.
The David Hayter Watchmen script deviated like hell but still kept the core themes, tone, and idea. Imagine if that got made instead of Snyder's awkward sex scene extravaganza.
Messed up and watch Chris Stuckmann's review. "Spoiler-free" but it still reveals a lot of the overall structure of the film. One spoiler in particular about Batman's character bugs the crap out of me.
The whole right down the middle comment though seems pretty apt. Even Rotten Tomatoes (who as of this post is at 34%) has an overall average rating of 5.2/10. So nobody's saying it's completely unwatchable (though Man of Steel has an average of 6.2/10 for the comparison, so who's to say).