I'm saying Franky is too convenient to be metal. I think Franky is Light.
If it's not Franky, then it's Zoro.
I'm saying Franky is too convenient to be metal. I think Franky is Light.
If it's not Franky, then it's Zoro.
Luffy : rubber
Nami : lightning
Sanji : fire
Zorro : wind
Usopp : flora
Robin : flesh
Franky : steel
Brook : spirit
Jinbei : water
Chopper:??? Fauna?
Post timeskip, Brook's attacks have been ice-related. During FI, Chopper's new form used digging moves, so I assumed he'd be earth-centric if this elemental thing continued. Since then he hasnt used them, however.
Chopper really doesn't it into the pattern you've set. As its more to do with what he is and not what he can do, unlike the others.
Heart (for his healing, naivety which seemed to be emphasized a lot) may be possible
Luffy-Rubber, Fire, Lightning
Zoro-Wind, Spritual
Nami- Water, Air, Lightning
Sanii- Fire
Chopper- Earth
Franky-Steel, Light
Robin- ???
Usopp-Plant, Earth
Brooke- Ice, Spiritual
My turn! My turn!
Luffy: food
Zoro: muscles
Nami: bra
Usopp: lie
Sanji: love
Chopper: cuteness
Robin: Robin
Franky: perversion
Brook: afro
Jinbe: kimonoFollowing this logic, the next strawhat should be….
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Robin is definitely best Robin.
If Wapol would fuse Robin and Carue, she might be the best Karoo Robin possible.
The 13 Chinese Zodiacs
"The legend is an interesting one. Each Chinese zodiac sign and the order they rank in was decided by the mythical Jade Emperor and his favourite creature, the rat. When the task of choosing the zodiac animals fell to the Emperor, he asked the rat to help him. The resourceful rat decided that the best way would be to arrange a race across the river. The order in which the animals arrived would decide who would be second, third, fourth, and so on.
The rat put the word out across the kingdom, and the first creature to appear on the riverbank was the cat. The pair enlisted the help of the ox, who was resting nearby, and asked him to ferry them across the river. A kind old soul, the ox agreed, but just as they set off, the rat pushed the cat into the river. Hating water, the cat managed to get out and scurried away to dry off.
Thus, the ox was the second creature to reach the opposite shore. The strong tiger came next, followed by agile rabbit who hopped from stone to stone and floating log. The dragon was hot on the rabbits heels, and only came in fifth because he stopped to make rain and then help the rabbit with a gust of wind. The horse galloped effortlessly across the river, but was pipped to sixth place by the wily snake who was hiding on his hoof. The sheep, monkey, and rooster arrived together on a raft, taking eighth, ninth, and 10th places respectively. The dog was late because he had stopped for a wash in the river, and the pig had been sleeping, so took 12th place. The poor cat finally dragged himself over to the other side, but it was too late. His anger at the rat has lasted through the ages, and they are still mortal enemies."
With the Cat are 13 Zodiacs ( First the Rat and Last the Cat )
Strawhats–------SBS–-------------Chapter 651–-----Zodiacs
?–------------------?------------------?---------------------Rat
Franky–------------Bull---------------Rhinoceros----------Ox
Zorro–-------------Shark-------------Tiger----------------Tiger
?–------------------?-------------------?--------------------Rabbit
?–------------------?-------------------?--------------------Drake
Robin–-------------Crane--------------Falcon-------------Rooster
Brook–-------------Horse--------------Giraffe------------Horse
Sanji–--------------Duck---------------Goat--------------Goat
Luffy–--------------Monkey------------Monkey-----------Monkey
Usopp–-------------Armadillo----------Chameleon-------Snake
Chopper–-----------Reindeer-----------Tanuki------------Dog
?–--------------------?-------------------?------------------Pig
Nami–---------------Cat-----------------Cat---------------Cat
AB = Brook
CD = Chopper
EF = Franky
GH = ??
IJ = Jimbei
KL = Luffy
MN = Nami
OP = Purin
QR = Robin
ST = Sanji
UV = Usopp
WX = Weeble
YZ = Zorro
What do you think ?
The Zodiac will always be 12 for me anyway. And why is Weeble in there?
Names do not influence the next namaka. The 'next namaka' will have a specific letter to start the name' theory is bogus.
After all those letters are in English and the character names are different in Japanese. Luffy is the English name. I've seen the romanji of 'Monkey D Luffy" (English) as 'Monki Di Rufi'.
So Luffy & Robin disproves that theory.
No that is not true !
Luffy and Robin are the original names from the japanese Anime.
Weebles Mother Miss Bucking is the Mother from Lola
They are no Foes to Luffy and his Crew
Luffy and Robin are the original names from the japanese Anime.
Uhhh…
Weebles Mother Miss Bucking is the Mother from Lola
They are no Foes to Luffy and his Crew
Nothing of the sort has been confirmed yet, though.
So what Zodiac sign will Jinbe be? There is the Rat, Rabbit, Dragon, and Pig/Boar left. I'm leaning towards the Boar because of Jinbe's rotund shape and the Boar's tusks being like Jinbe's bottom big teeth. Dragon would be 2nd place.
And that name theory 2.0 hasn't had a positive feedback so far in this thread. The Japanese don't distinguish L and R argument is the biggest counter to this theory. And it's a good argument. But I'll play devil's advocate here. Some of the Strawhats' names are not Japanese names by origin. So for some names it isn't Japanese–>English but English-->Japanese or whatever other origin language. When Oda was giving each person their name was he really just thinking in "Japanese"? Oda has sprinkled other languages throughout the series so why not the names too? How many people named Franky or Brook are born in Japan? And some of their romanized names sound foreign and out of place if you don't know the English equivalent.
Romanized Name
Monki Di Rufi
Roronoa Zoro
Nami
Usoppu
Vinsumōku-ke Sanji
Toni Toni Choppa
Niko Robin
Furanki
Burukku
Jinbe
Plus Luffy's last name isn't Japanese because if it was it would be Saru D Luffy.
And why Purin and Weeble? There are other characters in the Jinbe Cover Story/Zou/Big Mom/Kaido arc(s) that fit in both spots so why ignore them in this "hypothesis"?
OP: Pekoms, Pedro, Purin
WX: X Drake, Wanda, Weeble, Wadatsumi
Weeble and Purin are Examples
Pedro, Pekoms and the others fit well
No that is not true !
Luffy and Robin are the original names from the japanese Anime.
Well there's your problem!
No seriously, manga is canon, not anime. HAve you talked with people who know Japanese? Just curious, because that's what the ones I've talked with state.
Besides, so what if the anime makes it sound as "Luffy", the anime likes to mix in English in with the Japanese.
This current ark seems, at least to me, pretty similar to the Enel Lobby ark with Zoe being the Water 7 of this ark. So maybe someone is joining at the end, like with Franky. Either Jimbei or a new character.
Is the crew breaking down from the inside because a 20 years old plot and the conflict over what is right for everyone? Is the island infiltrated by government agents for nefarious reasons?
How zou and water 7 are alike other than it is possible at this point that the crew could come back after a while?
The g is for going mery duh.
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And the t is for thousand sunny, sanji confirmed not going back! Oh good.
Is the crew breaking down from the inside because a 20 years old plot and the conflict over what is right for everyone? Is the island infiltrated by government agents for nefarious reasons?
How zou and water 7 are alike other than it is possible at this point that the crew could come back after a while?
Isn't that what is happening right now??? A little face lift here and there but over all the same.
Sanji left, the crew knows that it was against his will and its planning if they go to save him, or continue the original plan just before something very outrageous happens and we don't know how it affects everything.
That's the only connection, but you should read water 7 again to compare the very different feelings of both arcs,
Sanji left, the crew knows that it was against his will and its planning if they go to save him, or continue the original plan just before something very outrageous happens and we don't know how it affects everything.
That's the only connection, but you should read water 7 again to compare the very different feelings of both arcs,
chill, I never said it was the exact same, the two having different feelings is good it makes it fresh and fun. It just seems like we seen this formula before.
The name theory is so ass because it has to ignore the japanese, and the last names, and pairs up half the alphabet randomly to work. (It's not even every other letter, its just, a random letter between every couple letters.)
It's not how it functions.
Will Oda try to keep all the names sounding different? Sure. Is he doing it based on some elaborate nonsensical pattern? No.
Besides, the crew is going to be 11, not 13.
You are wrong !
At one point in One Piece we had at least 13 Strawhats ( Luffy and his 12 Nakamas )
Even in Japan they think we get 13 Strawhats
Maybe Sanjis Bride is the third 3 for the Crew :wub:
But listen by yourself :
Who are the candidates for next nakama this ark so far?? Raizo, Puddin, Carrot….mm am I missing anyone else?
Who are the candidates for next nakama this ark so far?? Raizo, Puddin, Carrot….mm am I missing anyone else?
I've seen some people say Pedro, Pekoms, and Wanda.
And Cat Viper, on a less serious note.
This thead never ceases to amaze me on the theories people make on who's going to be the next strawhat member. It's quite entertaining to read to be honest.
Anyway, I'm sticking with the total of 11 strawhats and I'm certain Jimbei will be joining at some point. The other one is anyone's guess. Could be Pudding since Luffy mentioned of having a new crewmate because of the wedding, but we'll have to see how Oda works that out.
So i found this Japanese youtuber, who said there are 2 very popular one piece theories/rumors
1. The strawhat pirates call themselves the mugiwara no ichimi which translates into strawhat gang members. But apparently ichimi can be reconstructed into "13". And the rumor is that this will be the final number of the straw hat crew. The "straw hat 13".
2. Apparently a former employee of Oda revealed that the next strawhat will be a kunoichi with the tsuku tsuku no mi (fits apparently with the numbers theory) . This was apparently said before the introduction of Raizo.
So my question : are these really common topics in the Japanese community, or is he just as weird as the western community?
There's always some new rumor or some "info from someone at Jump" that pops up every once in a while. They can be just as ridiculous as the ones from the western fanbase.
Reminds me of the good ol "Uncle that works at Nintendo."
You are wrong !
At one point in One Piece we had at least 13 Strawhats ( Luffy and his 12 Nakamas )
When did we have 13 official Straw Hat members?
Stupid arbitrary rule, 2 instances of something doesn't make a pattern.
@Galaxy:
http://i.imgur.com/kcIx3dT.png
When did we have 13 official Straw Hat members?
Pfft a japanese guy made the theory, so its true, your arguments are invalid.
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On a serious note, I'm not sure the 11 thing will stick, Oda does a lot of foreshadowing so it might indeed be just that, when we get to 11 we will get a pretty good idea if that will be it or not.
The japanese guy does make some good points though.
I think it could go one way or another, to be serious. I prefer the SH to remain as few as possible - if we could stay with just 9 I would be happy because Oda is clearly struggling as it is to handle all those characters, just try to think how hard it will be once more join the group! But I know 11 is the least we'll have so I hope 11 will be.
But, honestly, I don't see how people can be so certain of a number so they can come and post "NO! IT WILL NOT BE ___, IT WILL BE ____!". "At least 10 members" certainly is not an exact foreshadowing.
@.access:
But, honestly, I don't see how people can be so certain about a number so they can come and post "NO! IT WILL NOT BE ___, IT WILL BE ____!". "At least 10 members" certainly is not an exact foreshadowing.
Also the size of Shanks crew, the size of Blackbeard's crew, and Oda's love of soccer. On top of Luffy saying "10" at the very start.
Also the size of Shanks crew, the size of Blackbeard's crew, and Oda's love of soccer. On top of Luffy saying "10" at the very start.
Oda being a fan of soccer is REALLY a stretch. Like, really! The "Mugiwara no ichimi" sounds like a good point compared to it and it is a stretch in itself.
Regarding BB, while I do think they will have the same number of members (or at least officers) as the SH by the end, there is no reason to think his crew will stay as it is. They were 5 when we met them, then they became 10, after the time-skip they are 11 but maybe they are 12 now if Aokiji joined them. The BB Pirates keep growing every time, so their current size doesn't sound like a reliable argument.
Honestly, I think both numbers are equally possible. I prefer 11, I am already used to the idea of them being 11, but that's all. I understand people defending one or another, but no reason to be anal about it when there is no definite proof of either.
@.access:
Oda being a fan of soccer is REALLY a stretch. Like, really! The "Mugiwara no ichimi" sounds like a good point compared to it and it is a stretch in itself.
Regarding BB, while I do think they will have the same number of members (or at least officers) as the SH by the end, there is no reason to think his crew will stay as it is. They were 5 when we met them, then they became 10, after the time-skip they are 11 but maybe they are 12 now if Aokiji joined them. The BB Pirates keep growing every time, so their current size doesn't sound like a reliable argument.
Honestly, I think both numbers are equally possible. I prefer 11, I am already used to the idea of them being 11, but that's all. I understand people defending one or another, but no reason to be anal about it when there is no definite proof of either.
Blackbeard had 2 years to increase his crew, but apparently only one guy managed to meet the standards of ship captain during that entire time (meanwhile, the crew went from 5 to 10 in a question of days). I think that's enough reason to believe that it will not grow more in terms of leaders. Never mind that Oda already name-dropped the term "Ten Titanic Captains" (he could've ommited the 10 there if he didn't want it to be a set number). At this point, it's like expecting a 12th Sabaody Supernova, or a 4th Calamity, or an 8th Shichibukai, i.e., not gonna happen.
I really doubt they will increase from now on. Kuzan is obviously not going to be part of that crew as he is still a good guy at the end of the day, and we don't really have room for 4 more main characters.
@.access:
Regarding BB, while I do think they will have the same number of members (or at least officers) as the SH by the end, there is no reason to think his crew will stay as it is. They were 5 when we met them, then they became 10, after the time-skip they are 11 but maybe they are 12 now if Aokiji joined them. The BB Pirates keep growing every time, so their current size doesn't sound like a reliable argument.
BB's crew is bigger now. We know this for when we saw the two ships of Shilew and Lafitte. There may be only 10/11 top officers but the crew is bigger.
BB's crew is bigger now. We know this for when we saw the two ships of Shilew and Lafitte. There may be only 10/11 top officers but the crew is bigger.
And the equivalent to that would the SH armada eventually.
1 captain ten crewmates. Oda loves soccer. It adds up to the number of players in soccer. This is my bet.
1 captain ten crewmates. Oda loves soccer. It adds up to the number of players in soccer. This is my bet.
Don't forget the reserve players, and the coach. So that would make 18 crew members. And Straw hats army are the fan club.
Raizo :ninja: possibly having the Tsuki Tsuki no Mi may seem feasible as it connects with martial arts and the moon. Tsuki could mean thrust or moon.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsuki
https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/付く
https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/月
I also found this excerpt interesting from the last link above. If Raizo does have this fruit Luffy may get very excited accidentally. It also could point to where Raizo is hiding(I'm guessing Zunisha's back or liver.)
! Do not confuse 月 with ⺼, a form of 肉 (“flesh, meat”) when used as the left-hand radical of a character. ⺼ is used for parts of the body such as 背 (“back”) or 肝 (“liver”). These may be written identically as 月, but in careful use they are distinguished, with the inside of ⺼ being written with unattached diagonal strokes. This is particularly an issue in looking up characters by radical; compare the 月 index and 肉 index.
I'm not sure how moon powers could be represented though. But someone already posted a fanfiction of said devil fruit.
http://onepiecefanfiction.wikia.com/wiki/Tsuki_Tsuki_no_Mi
It could also have a connection with why the Wanda was glad that the full moon was clouded. Not sure how though.
http://www.mangapanda.com/one-piece/811/18
Maybe there could also be a parallel correlation with the moon god climbing the celestial ladder to the heavens with Raizo trying to reach the moon in outerspace? This could possibly point to astronomy?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsukuyomi-no-Mikoto
This excerpt could point to Raizo using a bow and being a lookout/nightwatch.
! The Nihon Shoki mentions this name spelled as Tsukuyumi (月弓?, "moon bow"), but this yumi is likely a variation in pronunciation of yomi (読み?, "reading, counting").[1] An alternate interpretation is that his name is a combination of tsukiyo (月夜?, "moonlit night") and mi (見?, "looking, watching").
Just speculating. Nothing more.:happy:
Raizo :ninja: possibly having the Tsuki Tsuki no Mi may seem feasible as it connects with martial arts and the moon. Tsuki could mean thrust or moon.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsuki
https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/付く
https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/月
I also found this excerpt interesting from the last link above. If Raizo does have this fruit Luffy may get very excited accidentally. It also could point to where Raizo is hiding(I'm guessing Zunisha's back or liver.)! Do not confuse 月 with ⺼, a form of 肉 (“flesh, meat”) when used as the left-hand radical of a character. ⺼ is used for parts of the body such as 背 (“back”) or 肝 (“liver”). These may be written identically as 月, but in careful use they are distinguished, with the inside of ⺼ being written with unattached diagonal strokes. This is particularly an issue in looking up characters by radical; compare the 月 index and 肉 index.
I'm not sure how moon powers could be represented though. But someone already posted a fanfiction of said devil fruit.
http://onepiecefanfiction.wikia.com/wiki/Tsuki_Tsuki_no_MiIt could also have a connection with why the Wanda was glad that the full moon was clouded. Not sure how though.
http://www.mangapanda.com/one-piece/811/18Maybe there could also be a parallel correlation with the moon god climbing the celestial ladder to the heavens with Raizo trying to reach the moon in outerspace? This could possibly point to astronomy?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsukuyomi-no-Mikoto
This excerpt could point to Raizo using a bow and being a lookout/nightwatch.! The Nihon Shoki mentions this name spelled as Tsukuyumi (月弓?, "moon bow"), but this yumi is likely a variation in pronunciation of yomi (読み?, "reading, counting").[1] An alternate interpretation is that his name is a combination of tsukiyo (月夜?, "moonlit night") and mi (見?, "looking, watching").
Just speculating. Nothing more.:happy:
Tsuki does not fit the number theory though.
That would be "Tsuku", which also means… to vomit. Or "to stick", but that's already Trebol's area.
Also, Raizo is most likely an electricity user, anyway. And Zoro already does the job of lookout, as the crow's nest is already his personal room.
The idea of a Tsuku Tsuku fruit is good though, as it would fit with Brook's Yomi Yomi no Mi.
Honestly, thinking about it, I would prefer the crew to stay as they are. Oda can't seem to handle everyone as is imo. Yeah it's fun to speculate who will join, but if that character is only going to be important in the arc they join ,coughBrookecough, then I would rather Oda give more time to the crew.
I do like Jimbei tho. I hope he joins soon lol
Sanji's dad is the person doflamingo is talking to he will join the crew as a replacement for Sanji in crew since pudding is actually good looking so Sanji will marry her.
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@Galaxy:
http://i.imgur.com/kcIx3dT.png
When did we have 13 official Straw Hat members?
I think he is counting vivi and carue? i think they will be more allies in the final war than members though.
Tsuki does not fit the number theory though.
That would be "Tsuku", which also means… to vomit. Or "to stick", but that's already Trebol's area.
Also, Raizo is most likely an electricity user, anyway. And Zoro already does the job of lookout, as the crow's nest is already his personal room.
The idea of a Tsuku Tsuku fruit is good though, as it would fit with Brook's Yomi Yomi no Mi.
Well "Tsuki" can mean "thrust" while "Tsuku" can mean "to thrust". So using the same logic, "Tsuki" can mean "moon". Can't "tsuku" also mean "the moon"? I could be missing something in the Japanese grammar though.
https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/月読
So number theory intact…if that really means anything.
Raizo probably does use thunder/electricity as you stated. That doesn't mean thunder/electricity and devil fruit powers can't be used together.
Thunder Moon?
http://www.almanac.com/content/full-moon-names
! July
Full Buck Moon
Bucks begin to grow new antlers at this time. This full Moon was also known as the Thunder Moon, because thunderstorms are so frequent during this month.
Vomit Thunder?
https://www.discogs.com/artist/943088-I-Vomit-Thunder
And Zoro is a terrible lookout. You can't depend on him to for a whole shift to "lookout" without him taking a nap or concentrating on training. Besides maybe Zoro needs some company while he's training. It is a decent size room.
Well "Tsuki" can mean "thrust" while "Tsuku" can mean "to thrust". So using the same logic, "Tsuki" can mean "moon". Can't "tsuku" also mean "the moon"? I could be missing something in the Japanese grammar though.
https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/月読
So number theory intact…if that really means anything.Raizo probably does use thunder/electricity as you stated. That doesn't mean thunder/electricity and devil fruit powers can't be used together.
Thunder Moon?
http://www.almanac.com/content/full-moon-names! July
Full Buck Moon
Bucks begin to grow new antlers at this time. This full Moon was also known as the Thunder Moon, because thunderstorms are so frequent during this month.
Vomit Thunder?
https://www.discogs.com/artist/943088-I-Vomit-ThunderAnd Zoro is a terrible lookout. You can't depend on him to for a whole shift to "lookout" without him taking a nap or concentrating on training. Besides maybe Zoro needs some company while he's training. It is a decent size room.
http://i44.tinypic.com/24g83eu.jpg
To bad Robin does not do the lookout spot in that room since its binoculars and a telescope she can just make a clone in that room as well so she does not even need to go in it not to mention she can make eyes on the ships so people cannot sneak up on the ship either plus she could use her power to cripple the enemy's that she sees with it as well.
And Zoro is a terrible lookout. You can't depend on him to for a whole shift to "lookout" without him taking a nap or concentrating on training. Besides maybe Zoro needs some company while he's training. It is a decent size room.
http://i44.tinypic.com/24g83eu.jpg
Yeah, Zoro is such a bad lookout; just about everything that wasn't a ship or island was spotted by the terrible lookout, Zoro.
http://www.mangapanda.com/one-piece/130/19
http://www.mangapanda.com/one-piece/322/6
http://www.mangapanda.com/one-piece/323/6
http://www.mangapanda.com/one-piece/323/7
http://www.mangapanda.com/one-piece/371/10
http://www.mangapanda.com/one-piece/442/4
Actually, looking on it now, it's almost as if Zoro is already the designated lookout and Oda has no intentions of creating a new character to do the one thing Zoro does on the ship in the part of the ship specifically created for Zoro. I'm mean it's not like every crew member has a specific place on the ship that was pretty much made for them, sub Brook.
Wanting a position filled when the person acting as the position(lookout<zoro>, helmsman<franky>) has not only never failed, but is also doing an excellent job at it,is kinda silly; don't you think?
Speaking of which. Why is it always helmsman and lookout the first things people bring up for potential positions to be filled. Those along with cabin boy are not needed. They are not suffering without a designated crew member to those jobs. Do you know what they are having trouble with? Defending the weaker members. What they need is a Master at Arms. Someone who's job it is to protect the ship and crew, bar the monster trio. That would be Jinbei's job: Stay on the ship and protect the crew and ship. He would be good at it, I bet.</franky></zoro>
Yeah, Zoro is such a bad lookout; just about everything that wasn't a ship or island was spotted by the terrible lookout, Zoro.
http://www.mangapanda.com/one-piece/130/19
http://www.mangapanda.com/one-piece/322/6
http://www.mangapanda.com/one-piece/323/6
http://www.mangapanda.com/one-piece/323/7
http://www.mangapanda.com/one-piece/371/10
http://www.mangapanda.com/one-piece/442/4Actually, looking on it now, it's almost as if Zoro is already the designated lookout and Oda has no intentions of creating a new character to do the one thing Zoro does on the ship in the part of the ship specifically created for Zoro. I'm mean it's not like every crew member has a specific place on the ship that was pretty much made for them, sub Brook.
Wanting a position filled when the person acting as the position(lookout<zoro>, helmsman<franky>) has not only never failed, but is also doing an excellent job at it,is kinda silly; don't you think?
Speaking of which. Why is it always helmsman and lookout the first things people bring up for potential positions to be filled. Those along with cabin boy are not needed. They are not suffering without a designated crew member to those jobs. Do you know what they are having trouble with? Defending the weaker members. What they need is a Master at Arms. Someone who's job it is to protect the ship and crew, bar the monster trio. That would be Jinbei's job: Stay on the ship and protect the crew and ship. He would be good at it, I bet.</franky></zoro>
You make some valid points. I'm glad you enlightened my perspective(minus the sacarsm).
I was wrong to call Zoro a terrible lookout. :sad: My bad Zoro. But from looking at the links I wouldn't say he is a GREAT lookout. I'd say he gets the job done for the most part which is fine unless there ever is a danger Zoro cannot see.
Everyone at their positions excels. More than likely they will be considered the BEST in the world at their ship roles when it's all said and done. So Zoro being considered the BEST lookout doesn't seem plausible. Hence why lookout and helmsman are used as possible next positions. But I'll partly drop the lookout position…I say partly because NIGHTWATCH is a lookout but specifically at night. I believe they do need this role on the ship. This nightwatch could also be an ASTRONOMER(see the connection?) as there is already an astronomer's telescope in the crows nest. Zoro isn't using the telescope so who is? Which could provide Zoro some company(training or drinking buddy?) from time to time as I stated before.
Franky seems more like the ship's engineer than helmsman. But...until some event(s) steering the ship prove to be too much for Franky I can't really argue that a true helmsman is needed.
Master-at-Arms...hmmm...interesting.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master-at-arms
! A master-at-arms (US: MA; UK: & Pakistan MAA) may be a naval rating, responsible for law enforcement, regulating duties, security and force protection; an army officer responsible for physical training; or a member of the crew of a merchant ship (usually a passenger vessel) responsible for security and law enforcement.
This role fits Jinbe very well from what I can tell. I have been emphasizing that Jinbe is the LifeGUARD. I believe lifeguard and any other guard roles could fit under the Master-at-Arms position. Jinbe could train all members in combat and protect the food supply from Luffy. All Jinbe needs is a dream that connects to the role…protect the man and crew who will change the world! Or something that deals with protection. Plus Master-at-Arms could have a double meaning: Jinbe's punches(arms) are world class and lethal...but how often does Jinbe kick?:blink:
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@sanji''s_dad:
To bad Robin does not do the lookout spot in that room since its binoculars and a telescope she can just make a clone in that room as well so she does not even need to go in it not to mention she can make eyes on the ships so people cannot sneak up on the ship either plus she could use her power to cripple the enemy's that she sees with it as well.
I'm sure Oda doesn't want to make a power too broken. But it would make a lot of sense for her to have eyes and ears all around the ship looking out for possible dangers or things of interest.
I've been thinking about the straw hats' dreams/ goals, couldn't these be considered promises, too?? Cuz if that is the case, didn't Jimbei made a promise too?? I mean, his theme is "yakuza", and they tend to honor their promises. At least the romanticised version of the yakuza.