Of course the old players are past their prime, age leaves its mark.
Chapter 796: The Soldiers Decision
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I am a supporter of "Luffy is going to do something about Kyros and Rebecca" Theory, I also get the feeling Gatz and his Megaphone will be included…
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I am a supporter of "Luffy is going to do something about Kyros and Rebecca" Theory, I also get the feeling Gatz and his Megaphone will be included…
Let's wait and see :)I'd say he's going to fight Fujitora briefly, someone will help so then Luffy fights someone else briefly, and so on…until he reaches Rebecca and resolves the Rebecca- Kyros thing, followed by declaring Dressrosa his territory.
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You people are certainly sure of a ton of things, just like people were sure Gin was gonna return someday. Just cause Dofla ran from Tsuru doesn't mean anything, it could have been apart of his plan back then. We all know Dofla is a scheming guy, maybe he didn't want to reveal his strength at the time. Maybe he wasn't as strong as Tsuru was at that time, who the ef knows, besides oda. Just cause you called me out doesn't mean I don't believe what I do as strongly as you believe what you do. We all know Oda is poor at portraying female characters, and I am not at all convinced Tsuru was ever beastly or stronger than she is now. Nor am I convinced Chinjoa, Garp, Sengoku, or Wb were once stronger than we have ever seen, seems silly to assume such.
But I don't think Luffy is going to have a showdown with Tsuru, Fuji, and Sengoku. I think he is going to go back to say something to rebecca as that plot thread seems unresolved, and I think he is going to show some awakened fruit power that he just thought up on the fly, so that luffy will be on a level to maybe fight a yonkou when we finally get there.
Even though some of these people just showed you direct evidence from the manga to back their points up? A lot of what they said isn't conjecture it's as they said "logic" but for you I think common sense is more fitting and you need to use it, you just said the old timers, who's hairs are whitening and their faces riddled with wrinkles are as strong as they've ever been.
that's like saying Old Man Whitebeard was never affected by his age and was at his prime in Marineford, or Rayleigh is as strong as he was when his captain became pirate king. Age, just as it does in real life, does make people weaker. There's no silliness here, only a butthurt individual who got called out.Not to mention you're making stuff up about "scheming" from Doflamingo, as a reason for him running away for years upon years from Tsuru, that's not even conjecture from you that's you talking crap. Very ironic that someone who is a firm believer of "if it hasn't been shown in the story then it can't possibly be true" so what schemes has the manga shown thus far that made Doffy flee? Oh wait, there are none. He's even commented on Tsuru being on his tail, one flashback showed him panicking when his ship was in hot pursuit of her, that shows fear, that shows (logically speaking) that he's in no shape to confront her and take her out.
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Tsuru is a VA. So it's safe to assume that she's around the VA's strength bracket (Garp not included).
She's a senior member of the marines that why she gets that "special respect" from fellow marines.
Now regarding females stronger than Zoro, we have the following. IMO:Kuina
Boa Hancock
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Break this week?
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Tsuru is a VA. So it's safe to assume that she's around the VA's strength bracket (Garp not included).
She's a senior member of the marines that why she gets that "special respect" from fellow marines.
Now regarding females stronger than Zoro, we have the following. IMO:Kuina
Boa Hancock
And Big Mom.I think she could have been the strongest marine women and not far from garp and Sengoku. Maybe she wasn't admiral level, but not Maynard, Bastile and the rest, no way.
Old Tsuru? I still think she could be the strongest VA by a long shot.
VA is simply a hype tool in NW and they looked bad even pre TS.
The only strong VA we saw, that still got defeated not hard was Vergo, and he was a pirate undercover.
Garp is a special case, in the eyes of WG he could have been even FA, he just didn't want that.
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@uniaka:
The only strong VA we saw … was Vergo.
No, that's simply not true.
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@uniaka:
The only strong VA we saw, that still got defeated not hard was Vergo, and he was a pirate undercover.
Better call Saul.
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no one piece this week? wtf? it feels like the last 3 months we have had SOOOOOO many damn gaps..
and someone said last week was a double issue, but hows that work, only 1 chapter was released? ?? ??????
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no one piece this week? wtf? it feels like the last 3 months we have had SOOOOOO many damn gaps..
and someone said last week was a double issue, but hows that work, only 1 chapter was released? ?? ??????
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No, that's simply not true.
Who then? Smoker was defeated 3 times in the same arc, Bastile and Maynard got defeated easy, pre ts I don't remember any special VA.
Unless you talk about flashback characters.
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no one piece this week? wtf? it feels like the last 3 months we have had SOOOOOO many damn gaps..
and someone said last week was a double issue, but hows that work, only 1 chapter was released? ?? ??????
We got 5 chapters two times in a row, we haven't gotten that in months, so how the hell were the last 3 months "worse" than usual?
Also people made a damn thread to tell people the magazine was on a break, its not an Oda break its the magazine.
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No new chapter this week?
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no one piece this week? wtf? it feels like the last 3 months we have had SOOOOOO many damn gaps..
and someone said last week was a double issue, but hows that work, only 1 chapter was released? ?? ??????
No Gaps, 5 chapters before break, when normally there are 4 chapters only.
This is not Oda's break. It can't be published.
Double issue is not 2 chapters, it sounds very misleading.
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Tsuru is a VA. So it's safe to assume that she's around the VA's strength bracket (Garp not included).
She's a senior member of the marines that why she gets that "special respect" from fellow marines.
Now regarding females stronger than Zoro, we have the following. IMO:Kuina
Boa Hancock
And Big Mom.Why would Hancock be stronger than Zoro?
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Tsuru is a VA. So it's safe to assume that she's around the VA's strength bracket (Garp not included).
She's a senior member of the marines that why she gets that "special respect" from fellow marines.
Now regarding females stronger than Zoro, we have the following. IMO:Kuina
Boa Hancock
And Big Mom.Are Whitey Bay and Izo too close to call at this point? What about Catarina Devon?
I'm expecting there to be multiple female crewmembers in both Big Mom's and Kaido's crews as well. The question going forward is whether they're legit strong or just have bullshit abilities.
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Tsuru is a VA. So it's safe to assume that she's around the VA's strength bracket (Garp not included).
She's a senior member of the marines that why she gets that "special respect" from fellow marines.
Now regarding females stronger than Zoro, we have the following. IMO:Kuina
Boa Hancock
And Big Mom.Well, Kuina died before we saw her true potential, so I don't think she really counts. Boa Hancock is so far largely hype. I'm not making any judgement calls until we see her go all out, if ever.
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Why would Hancock be stronger than Zoro?
Just an opinion.
It all depends on Zoro's resistance against the Mellow Mellow Beam, which is debatable.And as Mr.Lucci said, Hancock has yet to break a sweat (kind of like Zoro :sad:)
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And as Mr.Lucci said, Hancock has yet to break a sweat (kind of like Zoro :sad:)
Zoro pre TS was constantly at deaths doors during his major fights. Post TS he was shown.panting after defeating pica How is that he is not breaking a sweat¿
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Just an opinion.
It all depends on Zoro's resistance against the Mellow Mellow Beam, which is debatable.And as Mr.Lucci said, Hancock has yet to break a sweat (kind of like Zoro :sad:)
Hancock is powerful in her own right.
But guys keep getting bated to her body and get done.
Zoro doesn't cut down women (to kill), so he's secretly a Sanji. So Hancock would win.
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Zoro pre TS was constantly at deaths doors during his major fights. Post TS he was shown.panting after defeating pica How is that he is not breaking a sweat¿
I was only referring to post TS. I think it makes no doubt that Hancock is stronger than pre TS Zoro.
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Zoro pre TS was constantly at deaths doors during his major fights. Post TS he was shown.panting after defeating pica How is that he is not breaking a sweat¿
Hancock has never been put in any kind of situation Zoro has.
Hancock is there to look pretty, deliver the laughs, aid Luffy and so on. You're not gonna see her all battered and bruised in the war of the best like Zoro against any opponent.
Pica was extremely large. Extremely, large. He was only panting after taking him out. Which mind me, was the most competent of all executives.
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Welp. Since it's been 30 pages and a lot of time has passed, I'll just end up giving the answers to my own questions.. again lol.
By the way, who here is up for a game? I was gonna post some of this down eventually but instead of the usual explanations, I figured it'd be fun as a game (either that or my definition of 'fun' is off). This will be a question and answer deal and it'll cover (exaggerated) science and/or spirituality.
Three (simple enough) questions! (Oh and these aren't jokes lol)
[Exaggerated Science]
1. Why hasn't Sanji gotten lung cancer?[Exaggerated Science AND Spirituality]
2. This would technically only be exaggerated science but to avoid any copying (just in case) I'm gonna be adding and ask 'the purpose' to cover the spirituality. So the question is Why does Zoro and Sanji only have one eye and what's the purpose?Oh and just in case anyone is thinking it, forget the "left hand & right hand" of the King stuff, that's obvious. Also, the spiritual meaning of "the left being the shield and the right where the manifestation of Ki comes from", not that either.
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3. Excluding Luffy, where does the "flaws" of the Straw Hats derived from?If no one decides to play, well that's that, but if anyone gets all three answers correct, they'll earn my respect. (I really wish I have a cookie or a star to give.. and sorry but I can't give my LIFELONG respect since it's just simple questions.)
Answers.
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LOL. I think "meant for boys" isn't exactly the same as hentai. If so, then One Piece's fanservice would be close to something like Fairy Tail without. A series without any actual relevance or redeeming messages. But what do I know? Anyone who actually still follows FT is free to tell me if I'm wrong though. Speaking of fan-service, the difference with this series are there are explanations to Rebecca's armor as Oda's given the weight limit and but also that she was still technically a prisoner who was made to excite the fans. Not that kind of excitement.. I meant her shedding blood, less armor, higher chance of fatality. Nami as well, she was poor with secondhand clothes, also being raised with a shameless mother as Bellemere (Happiness Punch!). Also, wasn't one of the reason Sanji wanted to learn Attack Cuisine was so he could… uh.. enhance Nami and Robin? The series actually has a lot of exaggerated food benefits as I mentioned before and in my thread but let me stop there before someone figures out that.. was a big hint. If you're saying though that "Oda goes too far even with actual reasons/excuse" then I agree lol.
And from my thread.
You might find this ridiculous and rightly so but these are one of those exaggerated scientific explanations I mentioned in the beginning. (Red) Meat, for instance are rich in Vitamin B-12 which helps make DNA and the formation of the nerve and red blood cells and keep them healthy. Red Meat is also an excellent source of Zinc, which keeps the immune system working properly. It contributes to the development of bone tissue, stimulates the growth and division of cells, tissue regeneration, reproductive function and brain development. If you're wondering, is Luffy the only one who benefits from such things? No, of course not, there are more obvious exaggerated health benefits from the consumption of food in this series, like Brook's milk, Nami's mikan (though all of you should know that serves a double purpose and not to just prevent scurvy), pretty much anything Sanji can make to the not so obvious, like Zoro's sake, even Chopper's cotton Candy and Franky's cola - though in his case it's really just a drink that both fuels and sustains him.
Adding to the "not so obvious" would be Sanji's. In this case the exaggerated effect and health benefit of black tea, which protects him from getting lung cancer. To complete the list on the Straw Hats though and adding to the "not so obvious" list would be Usopp's and Robin's.. which is kind of sad.. Let's start with Usopp. Fish has a lot of benefits but specifically it helps keep your heart healthy and reduce the risks of heart attacks and strokes. Now you might ask, why is that sad? Think about all the times Usopp's has been scared - from his so called "diseases" and Perona messing with him by grabbing his heart. It could just be him having a 'weak heart' (not brave) but possibly it might be hereditary as a heart condition since it was never stated or specified as to what his Mother died from.
For Robin, there are also many health benefits to coffee but in her case, what stands out are the increase of energy which improves her brain and cognitive functions and.. possibly the effect that coffee can be used as an anti-depressant.[/hide]
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I thought about this a long time ago and actually there's a lot of meaning to that. Maybe I should add it to my thread but I only write about the spiritual.. well let's leave that out since I already wrote about it. What I'm about to say will include small details that you may have to look up yourself to confirm. Besides the spiritual meaning, there are (theorized) scientific explanations as to their change of appearance - which is the left-right brain hemisphere functions.
Do note that the left brain hemisphere is processed by the right eye and controls the right side of the body and the right brain hemisphere by the left eye and the left side of the body. Let's start before the time skip. Zoro is seemingly left-handed, his swords on the right hip and he uses his one sword style with his left hand and Sanji I'm not exactly entirely sure on since he seems to use both hands. This might sound ridiculous but the more meaningful to this interpretation is Sanji's style of hair and Zoro's earrings as those are one of the leading and modern take on the subject. As the 2nd image shows that the right brain is feminine (seeing with your left eye) and that the left brain (seeing with your right eye) is masculine. What that means is how others perceive you, the left earrings is believed to be masculine due to others perceiving it more from the right eye (and the left brain). The same as parting your hair people do it to the left to be perceived as more masculine while to the right believed to be feminine (both of them being masculine but especially emphasized in Sanji's case due to how he was raised). The images pretty much describes how the two characters was before the time skip - Sanji is more left brained (he sees with his right eye) while Zoro doesn't favor any eye but is seemingly left-handed (usually attributed to being right brained).
After the time skip, Zoro seems to be favoring the usage of his right-hand more (left brained; you guys can check it yourself) - even in one sword styles. While Sanji, after spending time in Kamabakka Kingdom parts his hair to the right and sees with his left eye (right brained). Besides the more obvious status of Luffy's right hand and left hand and the spiritual meaning behind it, the two seems to be covering for their previous weaknesses, as Zoro after the time skip is more left brained and Sanji the right brained, but that also helps with their own respective way of "powering up" - as Zoro's is to stay collected and Sanji's is more emotional.
So yeah, whether Zoro has some angsty demonic eye, I will not say it's not possible but there are other ACTUAL meanings behind it.
To clarify more since I made that post, first of all, Sanji is most likely right handed or at least he leads more with his right leg, but with his occupation, he could easily be ambidextrous. Sanji being left-brained is not exactly a surprise though since he's covered the left side of his face and saw with his right eye pre-time skip and a big part of his character is saving the others through planning. Secondly, Zoro, as naturally as Sanji was being left-brained, is right-brained - which adds more to their contrast and rivalry. After the time skip, besides the more obvious way of them powering up and transcending their limitations, when I stated "the two seems to be covering up their weakness", what I meant was that the right-brain is more ambitious (remember what Zoro mirrors in Luffy is their ambition, as what Sanji mirrors is his resolve to chase a dream that may or may not exist) and uses feelings and emotions while the left-brain is more analytical, cautious, logical and is more based on reality (remember what Sanji said on Baratie as Zoro fell into the sea?)
Pre-time skip, the two were not exactly missing those traits and characteristics, but they were lacking – if you really want to say it another way: "they truly complete each other". ALSO, as SOME of you already know, Haki ties to the very character themselves. When Oda said that Zoro specialized in Armament Haki and Sanji in Observation Haki, that meant it ties to their nature and characteristics, as Zoro is ambitious and Sanji is more aware. What might be confusing and what you might ask yourself right now is "Does the right-brain = Armament and left-brain = Observation?" that would be a simple nooo. It's not that simple, it would be a lot easier if it was lol but remember both Observation and Armament are Haki, which is Ki in foundation (and can be seen/felt as feelings) but Haki on it's own are based off your ambition and aspirations, which also sometimes means you take the necessary risks, in short, it's definitely right-brained. This is where what I said before that the two are covering for their weakness starts to matter. Zoro, even if he specializes in Armament would not exactly be a complete character or even a complete "second" (to the Future Pirate King) if he didn't have left-brain functions/traits, as well as Sanji who specializes in his observation/awareness needed to be more right-brained, both being covered after the time skip.
Not sure if this will ever happen.. but if you think about it.. it might really be possible… the whole [eye reveal power-up]. I mean it makes some sense in this series since well.. Sanji always needs to cover up one of his eyes so in his case, him seeing through the left eye (right-brained; Haki) is more beneficial to him but for Zoro whose scar might just be an ornament (by that I mean like Rayleigh but speaking of him and this is really just a shot in the dark but remember the small instance we saw him meeting Roger? We never did get if he had his own ambition at the time like Zoro, he seemed content at the time like Sanji– makes you appreciate which side the scar on his face is at, huh?), if he does open his eye and.. since it's a manga and all, it might add to his Haki.. I don't know man.
I'll add one more example on how this theory applies to what we've seen in the series so far. It's actually very simple and something we all know by heart (or you should). In Marineford. Uh-huh, I'm going there. Whitebeard. Did you get it yet? Well this might already be obvious to some by now as to where I'm getting at but Whitebeard vs Akainu. Akainu taking out half his face, specifically the left side of Whitebeard's face and in extension - his brain. This was after Akainu already has killed Ace, so obviously Whitebeard would be angry but what I'm getting at is, remember the functions of the right-brain and what did Whitebeard proceeded to do?
Fashion-wise, there's another and rather small example I'm thinking of that can add to a theory with an already huge following. Now remember in my quote, I stated that the modern take on this theory is that parting your hair towards the right and wearing an earring only to your right is feminine– due to others seeing it more from their left eye (right brain and ergo feminine) while the opposite, hair towards the left and earrings on the left etc etc is masculine. Well look up the most flamboyant character we have so far in the series - Doflamingo, not his hair but specifically his earrings, how many does he have? Two? Good. You're seeing what I'm seeing.
Okay now look up Crocodile (not an actual Crocodile, but "One Piece Crocodile" preferably adding the keyword "manga"), what is really interesting is that most of his appearance in the manga he is shown from the right side of his face which shows us (and seems to emphasize) his single right earring. Feel free to look up Crocodile's wiki page to make it easier but the most notable example really would be the only time his face was never shown in Chapter 0 - not only was his face hidden as the panel was showing us the back of his head but it was also the right side of his head (and again showed us the earring). So yeah.. by that theory with an already huge following, I obviously meant that Crocodile being a woman.. or at least having some feminine traits.. but hey, it's not like Romancing Saga 2 didn't already make that clear - as the villains are most likely the inspirations to the original Shichibukai.[/hide]
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Okay we're almost done. Thank jebus. Honestly, I think I would've been beyond impressed if someone had to type all that to answer my questions.. I see now that was asking too much lol.. Anyways, I'm getting lazier so let me just speed things up on this one.
When I asked the "fault" of the Straw Hats, excluding Luffy, I was being loose on the word 'fault'. Anyways, the answer to the third question is the Five Precepts [. You might ask, why is Luffy excluded? This is because these are things that the Straw Hats doing and continue to do - which are against the precepts making it well.. faults (like I said, loose). Luffy not killing is something he does so he would be following the first precept but it wouldn't match the others doing what they have been doing for most of the series (like Nami stealing, Usopp lying, Sanji.. being a perv) so instead you should be asking "Who kills?" That's easy, Zoro. It's more notable during Jaya that he does kill when they were looking for the South Bird.
Anyways, another possible question would be "Why is Zoro not the fifth precept?" because while it matches Zoro's drinking, that precept covers not only alcohol but also drugs, now ask yourself "Who takes drugs in the crew?" That's right, Doctor Chopper. Okay now this is where it gets tricky or interesting, depends on how you view it, really. The Five Precepts eventually becomes the Eight Precepts](. You might ask, why is Luffy excluded? This is because these are things that the Straw Hats doing and [u]continue[/u] to do - which are against the precepts making it well.. faults (like I said, loose). Luffy not killing is something he does so he would be following the first precept but it wouldn't match the others doing what they have been doing for most of the series (like Nami stealing, Usopp lying, Sanji.. being a perv) so instead you should be asking ) [and 2 of those precepts splits into 2, making Ten Precepts](and 2 of those precepts splits into 2, making Ten Precepts [url][link] - [b]IF you haven't noticed yet[/b], yes this is ALSO a possible hint on how many crew members there are and will be. The Eight Precepts ('The Eight' chapter title referring to Brook) becoming the Ten Precepts would match in Oda's interview that new members will successively join - meaning that it strongly hints at least TWO more members, making ten.
Now there ARE problems with the precepts, mostly the fact that after the Eight Precepts, other than Brook, it doesn't seem to match the others, yeah I don't know either but take into account that at the time, Chopper and Brook was foreshadowed, because well.. they needed (and wanted) a Doctor and Musician. A lot of those from the Ten Precepts seems to fit more of what Luffy does, especially sixth and ninth, I know.. I'm pretty lost myself, but hey if you catch Robin and/or Franky doing any of the other things, feel free to let me know lol.
Actually hmm.. thinking more about it now.. what if those the sixth and the ninth precept that Luffy is covering is saved for the next 2 members? meaning that the eight and tenth actually covers Robin and Franky respectively.. I mean Robin does use makeup (not like that's a big deal lol) and Franky DID steal their gold when they first met him.. I don't know, I might be reaching but if I'm not then the next two members will cover what Luffy has been - eating at forbidden times (man this is giving me vibes for a certain pink haired character....) and lying on high/luxurious places.[/hide]
Now to wait one more week..[/link][/url]) [- IF you haven't noticed yet, yes this is ALSO a possible hint on how many crew members there are and will be. The Eight Precepts ('The Eight' chapter title referring to Brook) becoming the Ten Precepts would match in Oda's interview that new members will successively join - meaning that it strongly hints at least TWO more members, making ten.
Now there ARE problems with the precepts, mostly the fact that after the Eight Precepts, other than Brook, it doesn't seem to match the others, yeah I don't know either but take into account that at the time, Chopper and Brook was foreshadowed, because well.. they needed (and wanted) a Doctor and Musician. A lot of those from the Ten Precepts seems to fit more of what Luffy does, especially sixth and ninth, I know.. I'm pretty lost myself, but hey if you catch Robin and/or Franky doing any of the other things, feel free to let me know lol.
Actually hmm.. thinking more about it now.. what if those the sixth and the ninth precept that Luffy is covering is saved for the next 2 members? meaning that the eight and tenth actually covers Robin and Franky respectively.. I mean Robin does use makeup (not like that's a big deal lol) and Franky DID steal their gold when they first met him.. I don't know, I might be reaching but if I'm not then the next two members will cover what Luffy has been - eating at forbidden times (man this is giving me vibes for a certain pink haired character….) and lying on high/luxurious places.[/hide]
Now to wait one more week..](- [b]IF you haven't noticed yet[/b], yes this is ALSO a possible hint on how many crew members there are and will be. The Eight Precepts ('The Eight' chapter title referring to Brook) becoming the Ten Precepts would match in Oda's interview that new members will successively join - meaning that it strongly hints at least TWO more members, making ten.
Now there ARE problems with the precepts, mostly the fact that after the Eight Precepts, other than Brook, it doesn't seem to match the others, yeah I don't know either but take into account that at the time, Chopper and Brook was foreshadowed, because well.. they needed (and wanted) a Doctor and Musician. A lot of those from the Ten Precepts seems to fit more of what Luffy does, especially sixth and ninth, I know.. I'm pretty lost myself, but hey if you catch Robin and/or Franky doing any of the other things, feel free to let me know lol.
Actually hmm.. thinking more about it now.. what if those the sixth and the ninth precept that Luffy is covering is saved for the next 2 members? meaning that the eight and tenth actually covers Robin and Franky respectively.. I mean Robin does use makeup (not like that's a big deal lol) and Franky DID steal their gold when they first met him.. I don't know, I might be reaching but if I'm not then the next two members will cover what Luffy has been - eating at forbidden times (man this is giving me vibes for a certain pink haired character....) and lying on high/luxurious places.[/hide]
Now to wait one more week..)
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Every time I see people hype post ts Zoro( or zoro in general), I give them this.
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I feel your pain:ninja:
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You give them a sleeping Zoro, so he's just like pre-TS. :)
Zoro pre TS was constantly at deaths doors during his major fights. Post TS he was shown.panting after defeating pica How is that he is not breaking a sweat¿
You act as if the circumstances under which he fought weren't extremely disadvantageous to "where am I again?" Zoro. Hancock never fought anyboy constantly hiding, attacking out of nowhere. Having to evade and jump around just to get an attack in, would of course cause Zoro to put some labour into what has been more of a wild chase than anything else.
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God I love the sleeping Zoro. NF created some pretty awesome meme pics back then. I wish I had saved them -.-
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Welp. Since it's been 30 pages and a lot of time has passed, I'll just end up giving the answers to my own questions.. again lol.
Answers.
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And from my thread.
Adding to the "not so obvious" would be Sanji's. In this case the exaggerated effect and health benefit of black tea, which protects him from getting lung cancer. To complete the list on the Straw Hats though and adding to the "not so obvious" list would be Usopp's and Robin's.. which is kind of sad.. Let's start with Usopp. Fish has a lot of benefits but specifically it helps keep your heart healthy and reduce the risks of heart attacks and strokes. Now you might ask, why is that sad? Think about all the times Usopp's has been scared - from his so called "diseases" and Perona messing with him by grabbing his heart. It could just be him having a 'weak heart' (not brave) but possibly it might be hereditary as a heart condition since it was never stated or specified as to what his Mother died from.
For Robin, there are also many health benefits to coffee but in her case, what stands out are the increase of energy which improves her brain and cognitive functions and.. possibly the effect that coffee can be used as an anti-depressant.[/hide]
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To clarify more since I made that post, first of all, Sanji is most likely right handed or at least he leads more with his right leg, but with his occupation, he could easily be ambidextrous. Sanji being left-brained is not exactly a surprise though since he's covered the left side of his face and saw with his right eye pre-time skip and a big part of his character is saving the others through planning. Secondly, Zoro, as naturally as Sanji was being left-brained, is right-brained - which adds more to their contrast and rivalry. After the time skip, besides the more obvious way of them powering up and transcending their limitations, when I stated "the two seems to be covering up their weakness", what I meant was that the right-brain is more ambitious (remember what Zoro mirrors in Luffy is their ambition, as what Sanji mirrors is his resolve to chase a dream that may or may not exist) and uses feelings and emotions while the left-brain is more analytical, cautious, logical and is more based on reality (remember what Sanji said on Baratie as Zoro fell into the sea?)
Pre-time skip, the two were not exactly missing those traits and characteristics, but they were lacking – if you really want to say it another way: "they truly complete each other". ALSO, as SOME of you already know, Haki ties to the very character themselves. When Oda said that Zoro specialized in Armament Haki and Sanji in Observation Haki, that meant it ties to their nature and characteristics, as Zoro is ambitious and Sanji is more aware. What might be confusing and what you might ask yourself right now is "Does the right-brain = Armament and left-brain = Observation?" that would be a simple nooo. It's not that simple, it would be a lot easier if it was lol but remember both Observation and Armament are Haki, which is Ki in foundation (and can be seen/felt as feelings) but Haki on it's own are based off your ambition and aspirations, which also sometimes means you take the necessary risks, in short, it's definitely right-brained. This is where what I said before that the two are covering for their weakness starts to matter. Zoro, even if he specializes in Armament would not exactly be a complete character or even a complete "second" (to the Future Pirate King) if he didn't have left-brain functions/traits, as well as Sanji who specializes in his observation/awareness needed to be more right-brained, both being covered after the time skip.
Not sure if this will ever happen.. but if you think about it.. it might really be possible… the whole [eye reveal power-up]. I mean it makes some sense in this series since well.. Sanji always needs to cover up one of his eyes so in his case, him seeing through the left eye (right-brained; Haki) is more beneficial to him but for Zoro whose scar might just be an ornament (by that I mean like Rayleigh but speaking of him and this is really just a shot in the dark but remember the small instance we saw him meeting Roger? We never did get if he had his own ambition at the time like Zoro, he seemed content at the time like Sanji– makes you appreciate which side the scar on his face is at, huh?), if he does open his eye and.. since it's a manga and all, it might add to his Haki.. I don't know man.
I'll add one more example on how this theory applies to what we've seen in the series so far. It's actually very simple and something we all know by heart (or you should). In Marineford. Uh-huh, I'm going there. Whitebeard. Did you get it yet? Well this might already be obvious to some by now as to where I'm getting at but Whitebeard vs Akainu. Akainu taking out half his face, specifically the left side of Whitebeard's face and in extension - his brain. This was after Akainu already has killed Ace, so obviously Whitebeard would be angry but what I'm getting at is, remember the functions of the right-brain and what did Whitebeard proceeded to do?
Fashion-wise, there's another and rather small example I'm thinking of that can add to a theory with an already huge following. Now remember in my quote, I stated that the modern take on this theory is that parting your hair towards the right and wearing an earring only to your right is feminine– due to others seeing it more from their left eye (right brain and ergo feminine) while the opposite, hair towards the left and earrings on the left etc etc is masculine. Well look up the most flamboyant character we have so far in the series - Doflamingo, not his hair but specifically his earrings, how many does he have? Two? Good. You're seeing what I'm seeing.
Okay now look up Crocodile (not an actual Crocodile, but "One Piece Crocodile" preferably adding the keyword "manga"), what is really interesting is that most of his appearance in the manga he is shown from the right side of his face which shows us (and seems to emphasize) his single right earring. Feel free to look up Crocodile's wiki page to make it easier but the most notable example really would be the only time his face was never shown in Chapter 0 - not only was his face hidden as the panel was showing us the back of his head but it was also the right side of his head (and again showed us the earring). So yeah.. by that theory with an already huge following, I obviously meant that Crocodile being a woman.. or at least having some feminine traits.. but hey, it's not like Romancing Saga 2 didn't already make that clear - as the villains are most likely the inspirations to the original Shichibukai.[/hide]
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Okay we're almost done. Thank jebus. Honestly, I think I would've been beyond impressed if someone had to type all that to answer my questions.. I see now that was asking too much lol.. Anyways, I'm getting lazier so let me just speed things up on this one.
When I asked the "fault" of the Straw Hats, excluding Luffy, I was being loose on the word 'fault'. Anyways, the answer to the third question is the Five Precepts [. You might ask, why is Luffy excluded? This is because these are things that the Straw Hats doing and continue to do - which are against the precepts making it well.. faults (like I said, loose). Luffy not killing is something he does so he would be following the first precept but it wouldn't match the others doing what they have been doing for most of the series (like Nami stealing, Usopp lying, Sanji.. being a perv) so instead you should be asking "Who kills?" That's easy, Zoro. It's more notable during Jaya that he does kill when they were looking for the South Bird.
Anyways, another possible question would be "Why is Zoro not the fifth precept?" because while it matches Zoro's drinking, that precept covers not only alcohol but also drugs, now ask yourself "Who takes drugs in the crew?" That's right, Doctor Chopper. Okay now this is where it gets tricky or interesting, depends on how you view it, really. The Five Precepts eventually becomes the Eight Precepts](. You might ask, why is Luffy excluded? This is because these are things that the Straw Hats doing and [u]continue[/u] to do - which are against the precepts making it well.. faults (like I said, loose). Luffy not killing is something he does so he would be following the first precept but it wouldn't match the others doing what they have been doing for most of the series (like Nami stealing, Usopp lying, Sanji.. being a perv) so instead you should be asking ) [and 2 of those precepts splits into 2, making Ten Precepts](and 2 of those precepts splits into 2, making Ten Precepts [url][link] - [b]IF you haven't noticed yet[/b], yes this is ALSO a possible hint on how many crew members there are and will be. The Eight Precepts ('The Eight' chapter title referring to Brook) becoming the Ten Precepts would match in Oda's interview that new members will successively join - meaning that it strongly hints at least TWO more members, making ten.
Now there ARE problems with the precepts, mostly the fact that after the Eight Precepts, other than Brook, it doesn't seem to match the others, yeah I don't know either but take into account that at the time, Chopper and Brook was foreshadowed, because well.. they needed (and wanted) a Doctor and Musician. A lot of those from the Ten Precepts seems to fit more of what Luffy does, especially sixth and ninth, I know.. I'm pretty lost myself, but hey if you catch Robin and/or Franky doing any of the other things, feel free to let me know lol.
Actually hmm.. thinking more about it now.. what if those the sixth and the ninth precept that Luffy is covering is saved for the next 2 members? meaning that the eight and tenth actually covers Robin and Franky respectively.. I mean Robin does use makeup (not like that's a big deal lol) and Franky DID steal their gold when they first met him.. I don't know, I might be reaching but if I'm not then the next two members will cover what Luffy has been - eating at forbidden times (man this is giving me vibes for a certain pink haired character....) and lying on high/luxurious places.[/hide]
Now to wait one more week..
Do you read seven deadly sins? The part about Zoro and Sanji covering their pre-timeskip deficiencies was mindblowing haha I read through all your answers and was going to write my own when you posted those initially but there's way too much writing involved, interesting stuff though, 10 crewmates ftw, Bonney might actually become one eh?[/link][/url]) [- IF you haven't noticed yet, yes this is ALSO a possible hint on how many crew members there are and will be. The Eight Precepts ('The Eight' chapter title referring to Brook) becoming the Ten Precepts would match in Oda's interview that new members will successively join - meaning that it strongly hints at least TWO more members, making ten.
Now there ARE problems with the precepts, mostly the fact that after the Eight Precepts, other than Brook, it doesn't seem to match the others, yeah I don't know either but take into account that at the time, Chopper and Brook was foreshadowed, because well.. they needed (and wanted) a Doctor and Musician. A lot of those from the Ten Precepts seems to fit more of what Luffy does, especially sixth and ninth, I know.. I'm pretty lost myself, but hey if you catch Robin and/or Franky doing any of the other things, feel free to let me know lol.
Actually hmm.. thinking more about it now.. what if those the sixth and the ninth precept that Luffy is covering is saved for the next 2 members? meaning that the eight and tenth actually covers Robin and Franky respectively.. I mean Robin does use makeup (not like that's a big deal lol) and Franky DID steal their gold when they first met him.. I don't know, I might be reaching but if I'm not then the next two members will cover what Luffy has been - eating at forbidden times (man this is giving me vibes for a certain pink haired character….) and lying on high/luxurious places.[/hide]
Now to wait one more week..
Do you read seven deadly sins? The part about Zoro and Sanji covering their pre-timeskip deficiencies was mindblowing haha I read through all your answers and was going to write my own when you posted those initially but there's way too much writing involved, interesting stuff though, 10 crewmates ftw, Bonney might actually become one eh?](- [b]IF you haven't noticed yet[/b], yes this is ALSO a possible hint on how many crew members there are and will be. The Eight Precepts ('The Eight' chapter title referring to Brook) becoming the Ten Precepts would match in Oda's interview that new members will successively join - meaning that it strongly hints at least TWO more members, making ten.
Now there ARE problems with the precepts, mostly the fact that after the Eight Precepts, other than Brook, it doesn't seem to match the others, yeah I don't know either but take into account that at the time, Chopper and Brook was foreshadowed, because well.. they needed (and wanted) a Doctor and Musician. A lot of those from the Ten Precepts seems to fit more of what Luffy does, especially sixth and ninth, I know.. I'm pretty lost myself, but hey if you catch Robin and/or Franky doing any of the other things, feel free to let me know lol.
Actually hmm.. thinking more about it now.. what if those the sixth and the ninth precept that Luffy is covering is saved for the next 2 members? meaning that the eight and tenth actually covers Robin and Franky respectively.. I mean Robin does use makeup (not like that's a big deal lol) and Franky DID steal their gold when they first met him.. I don't know, I might be reaching but if I'm not then the next two members will cover what Luffy has been - eating at forbidden times (man this is giving me vibes for a certain pink haired character....) and lying on high/luxurious places.[/hide]
Now to wait one more week..
Do you read seven deadly sins? The part about Zoro and Sanji covering their pre-timeskip deficiencies was mindblowing haha I read through all your answers and was going to write my own when you posted those initially but there's way too much writing involved, interesting stuff though, 10 crewmates ftw, Bonney might actually become one eh?)
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I was only referring to post TS. I think it makes no doubt that Hancock is stronger than pre TS Zoro.
Anyway, do you mean that Zoro showed the full extent of his training against Pica ?Zoro panting after that huge attack is emough to tell that it might be one of zoros strongest attacks. I'm not discussing his current strength or who is needed to show the full extent of his training but he did not defeat pica with ease. You might say he defeated pica easier than pre TS but come on… it's ok for zoro to have a break from his near death experiences. I'm sure we will get back to them soon enough (wano?)
Also what are you all quoting me on hancock? I'm only arguing about ramistar telling that zoro didn't break a sweat.
Defeating pica with ease would.be zoro using mastery of CoO then launch a slash that is at least one level above picas detecting abilities and kill him without effort. One slash kill in a maximum of 4 or 5 panels... One example of defeating someone with ease is mihawk stopping zoro with his smallest dagger ieastblue.
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Zoro panting after that huge attack is emough to tell that it might be one of zoros strongest attacks. I'm not discussing his current strength or who is needed to show the full extent of his training but he did not defeat pica with ease. You might say he defeated pica easier than pre TS but come on… it's ok for zoro to have a break from his near death experiences. I'm sure we will get back to them soon enough (wano?)
Yeah I agree with all this about Zoro. My post was mostly about Hancock anyway.
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Now there ARE problems with the precepts, mostly the fact that after the Eight Precepts, other than Brook, it doesn't seem to match the others, yeah I don't know either but take into account that at the time, Chopper and Brook was foreshadowed, because well.. they needed (and wanted) a Doctor and Musician. A lot of those from the Ten Precepts seems to fit more of what Luffy does, especially sixth and ninth, I know.. I'm pretty lost myself, but hey if you catch Robin and/or Franky doing any of the other things, feel free to let me know lol.
Actually hmm.. thinking more about it now.. what if those the sixth and the ninth precept that Luffy is covering is saved for the next 2 members? meaning that the eight and tenth actually covers Robin and Franky respectively.. I mean Robin does use makeup (not like that's a big deal lol) and Franky DID steal their gold when they first met him.. I don't know, I might be reaching but if I'm not then the next two members will cover what Luffy has been - eating at forbidden times (man this is giving me vibes for a certain pink haired character….) and lying on high/luxurious places.
Now to wait one more week..
You could make a decent case for Franky being the Eighth of the Ten Precepts if you interpret it as condemning the alteration of the body's appearance. Franky first appeared wearing a mask, looked weird when we first saw him, and now post-timeskip doesn't look all that human. It's not exactly cosmetics but I think it could count. Coup de Boo as perfume?
This is a lot iffier but perhaps Robin could be the Ninth? She's often seen reclining aboard the ship.
If you get dunked on in the dream, you get dunked on in real life
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Do you read seven deadly sins? The part about Zoro and Sanji covering their pre-timeskip deficiencies was mindblowing haha I read through all your answers and was going to write my own when you posted those initially but there's way too much writing involved, interesting stuff though, 10 crewmates ftw, Bonney might actually become one eh?
I've read it, yeah but I don't actively follow it. Not really sure why you asked though. Yeah, Bonney crossed my mind lol.
You could make a decent case for Franky being the Eighth of the Ten Precepts if you interpret it as condemning the alteration of the body's appearance. Franky first appeared wearing a mask, looked weird when we first saw him, and now post-timeskip doesn't look all that human. It's not exactly cosmetics but I think it could count. Coup de Boo as perfume?
This is a lot iffier but perhaps Robin could be the Ninth? She's often seen reclining aboard the ship.
That's awesome. I actually missed that.. Franky did alter his body (beautifying) and for all we know continues to do so.
The Robin thing, to be honest, when I was first trying to match them, I arrived to the ninth for her as well since cosmetics isn't rather special for women in the series but the Franky thing is pretty ingenious. I'm still not entirely sure if she does match but it is the highest probability as far as I can tell. It also does seem to match what seems to be a "cause and effect" in the things they do when it comes to the precepts - mainly things from their pasts. Nami stealing, Usopp lying are obvious, but Sanji being a pervert due to being raised by only men, Chopper's humanity resulted into the creation of the Rumble Ball, Zoro killing in his path towards his own ambition and promise (not to mention he was eager to fight with real swords even in his past), Franky altering himself to be reborn, Brook, well we can only guess his full past but from what we know in his past he played his songs to cheer up Laboon and his crew. As for Robin, she ran from the World Government/Marines since she was 8, it makes sense she's sitting and relaxing a lot enjoying her books.
So if ALL that is correct, that still leaves "eating at forbidden times" and "accepting/using silver & gold (money)".
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That's awesome. I actually missed that.. Franky did alter his body (beautifying) and for all we know continues to do so.
Thanks! You put in a lot more elegantly though.
As for Robin, she ran from the World Government/Marines since she was 8, it makes sense she's sitting and relaxing a lot enjoying her books.
So if ALL that is correct, that still leaves "eating at forbidden times" and "accepting/using silver & gold (money)".
Nice connection for Robin. Ten might theoretically work for her since she survived on the temporary charity of others growing up, but I don't see that present in her character much anymore. I think the Ninth fits her best so far.
Looking forward, I can't help but notice that Jinbe lacks the characteristics of any vacant precept. Perhaps that suggests that he won't join the crew or will be killed before he can formally join? If we see a flashback specifically of him or see more of his character that might change, but right now I can't think of any way he matches. All the Strawhats' precept flaws are a fairly apparent part of their characters with only minor exceptions.
If you get dunked on in the dream, you get dunked on in real life
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Looking forward, I can't help but notice that Jinbe lacks the characteristics of any vacant precept. Perhaps that suggests that he won't join the crew or will be killed before he can formally join? If we see a flashback specifically of him or see more of his character that might change, but right now I can't think of any way he matches. All the Strawhats' precept flaws are a fairly apparent part of their characters with only minor exceptions.
-Coughs- (I was trying to avoid that topic) Don't worry Jinbei fans! He'll join okay? OK.
Well anyways, you've already said the problems and the possibilities of more character exposition. Jinbei is really honorable, I can't see him eating at forbidden times since he seems disciplined, can't see him sitting/laying around unless he's formally the lookout or something and that's not much reflected from his past rather than it would just be a job but.. maybe.. hmm.. he uses the money to free slaves everywhere they go? I don't know man. Shot in the dark.
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So if ALL that is correct, that still leaves "eating at forbidden times" and "accepting/using silver & gold (money)".
I think they are, those faults are something the other Straw Hats comment upon. E.g. When Brook was talking to himself (entertained himself) Franky noted it and when Robin is reading while doing something else they often comment on it. I mean Robin does drink coffee all the time at nights, but nobody has ever said anything about it so it can't be it.
Overall I would say Jinbe is either a sleepwalker who will go with Luffy to rob the fridge or this another heavy hint towards Bonney. And I can't believe we are getting another greedy member, although like you said it could just be that they likes money so that they can donate it.
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Welp. Since it's been 30 pages and a lot of time has passed, I'll just end up giving the answers to my own questions.. again lol.
Answers.
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And from my thread.
Adding to the "not so obvious" would be Sanji's. In this case the exaggerated effect and health benefit of black tea, which protects him from getting lung cancer. To complete the list on the Straw Hats though and adding to the "not so obvious" list would be Usopp's and Robin's.. which is kind of sad.. Let's start with Usopp. Fish has a lot of benefits but specifically it helps keep your heart healthy and reduce the risks of heart attacks and strokes. Now you might ask, why is that sad? Think about all the times Usopp's has been scared - from his so called "diseases" and Perona messing with him by grabbing his heart. It could just be him having a 'weak heart' (not brave) but possibly it might be hereditary as a heart condition since it was never stated or specified as to what his Mother died from.
For Robin, there are also many health benefits to coffee but in her case, what stands out are the increase of energy which improves her brain and cognitive functions and.. possibly the effect that coffee can be used as an anti-depressant.[/hide]
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To clarify more since I made that post, first of all, Sanji is most likely right handed or at least he leads more with his right leg, but with his occupation, he could easily be ambidextrous. Sanji being left-brained is not exactly a surprise though since he's covered the left side of his face and saw with his right eye pre-time skip and a big part of his character is saving the others through planning. Secondly, Zoro, as naturally as Sanji was being left-brained, is right-brained - which adds more to their contrast and rivalry. After the time skip, besides the more obvious way of them powering up and transcending their limitations, when I stated "the two seems to be covering up their weakness", what I meant was that the right-brain is more ambitious (remember what Zoro mirrors in Luffy is their ambition, as what Sanji mirrors is his resolve to chase a dream that may or may not exist) and uses feelings and emotions while the left-brain is more analytical, cautious, logical and is more based on reality (remember what Sanji said on Baratie as Zoro fell into the sea?)
Pre-time skip, the two were not exactly missing those traits and characteristics, but they were lacking – if you really want to say it another way: "they truly complete each other". ALSO, as SOME of you already know, Haki ties to the very character themselves. When Oda said that Zoro specialized in Armament Haki and Sanji in Observation Haki, that meant it ties to their nature and characteristics, as Zoro is ambitious and Sanji is more aware. What might be confusing and what you might ask yourself right now is "Does the right-brain = Armament and left-brain = Observation?" that would be a simple nooo. It's not that simple, it would be a lot easier if it was lol but remember both Observation and Armament are Haki, which is Ki in foundation (and can be seen/felt as feelings) but Haki on it's own are based off your ambition and aspirations, which also sometimes means you take the necessary risks, in short, it's definitely right-brained. This is where what I said before that the two are covering for their weakness starts to matter. Zoro, even if he specializes in Armament would not exactly be a complete character or even a complete "second" (to the Future Pirate King) if he didn't have left-brain functions/traits, as well as Sanji who specializes in his observation/awareness needed to be more right-brained, both being covered after the time skip.
Not sure if this will ever happen.. but if you think about it.. it might really be possible… the whole [eye reveal power-up]. I mean it makes some sense in this series since well.. Sanji always needs to cover up one of his eyes so in his case, him seeing through the left eye (right-brained; Haki) is more beneficial to him but for Zoro whose scar might just be an ornament (by that I mean like Rayleigh but speaking of him and this is really just a shot in the dark but remember the small instance we saw him meeting Roger? We never did get if he had his own ambition at the time like Zoro, he seemed content at the time like Sanji– makes you appreciate which side the scar on his face is at, huh?), if he does open his eye and.. since it's a manga and all, it might add to his Haki.. I don't know man.
I'll add one more example on how this theory applies to what we've seen in the series so far. It's actually very simple and something we all know by heart (or you should). In Marineford. Uh-huh, I'm going there. Whitebeard. Did you get it yet? Well this might already be obvious to some by now as to where I'm getting at but Whitebeard vs Akainu. Akainu taking out half his face, specifically the left side of Whitebeard's face and in extension - his brain. This was after Akainu already has killed Ace, so obviously Whitebeard would be angry but what I'm getting at is, remember the functions of the right-brain and what did Whitebeard proceeded to do?
Fashion-wise, there's another and rather small example I'm thinking of that can add to a theory with an already huge following. Now remember in my quote, I stated that the modern take on this theory is that parting your hair towards the right and wearing an earring only to your right is feminine– due to others seeing it more from their left eye (right brain and ergo feminine) while the opposite, hair towards the left and earrings on the left etc etc is masculine. Well look up the most flamboyant character we have so far in the series - Doflamingo, not his hair but specifically his earrings, how many does he have? Two? Good. You're seeing what I'm seeing.
Okay now look up Crocodile (not an actual Crocodile, but "One Piece Crocodile" preferably adding the keyword "manga"), what is really interesting is that most of his appearance in the manga he is shown from the right side of his face which shows us (and seems to emphasize) his single right earring. Feel free to look up Crocodile's wiki page to make it easier but the most notable example really would be the only time his face was never shown in Chapter 0 - not only was his face hidden as the panel was showing us the back of his head but it was also the right side of his head (and again showed us the earring). So yeah.. by that theory with an already huge following, I obviously meant that Crocodile being a woman.. or at least having some feminine traits.. but hey, it's not like Romancing Saga 2 didn't already make that clear - as the villains are most likely the inspirations to the original Shichibukai.[/hide]
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Okay we're almost done. Thank jebus. Honestly, I think I would've been beyond impressed if someone had to type all that to answer my questions.. I see now that was asking too much lol.. Anyways, I'm getting lazier so let me just speed things up on this one.
When I asked the "fault" of the Straw Hats, excluding Luffy, I was being loose on the word 'fault'. Anyways, the answer to the third question is the Five Precepts [. You might ask, why is Luffy excluded? This is because these are things that the Straw Hats doing and continue to do - which are against the precepts making it well.. faults (like I said, loose). Luffy not killing is something he does so he would be following the first precept but it wouldn't match the others doing what they have been doing for most of the series (like Nami stealing, Usopp lying, Sanji.. being a perv) so instead you should be asking "Who kills?" That's easy, Zoro. It's more notable during Jaya that he does kill when they were looking for the South Bird.
Anyways, another possible question would be "Why is Zoro not the fifth precept?" because while it matches Zoro's drinking, that precept covers not only alcohol but also drugs, now ask yourself "Who takes drugs in the crew?" That's right, Doctor Chopper. Okay now this is where it gets tricky or interesting, depends on how you view it, really. The Five Precepts eventually becomes the Eight Precepts](. You might ask, why is Luffy excluded? This is because these are things that the Straw Hats doing and [u]continue[/u] to do - which are against the precepts making it well.. faults (like I said, loose). Luffy not killing is something he does so he would be following the first precept but it wouldn't match the others doing what they have been doing for most of the series (like Nami stealing, Usopp lying, Sanji.. being a perv) so instead you should be asking ) [and 2 of those precepts splits into 2, making Ten Precepts](and 2 of those precepts splits into 2, making Ten Precepts [url][link] - [b]IF you haven't noticed yet[/b], yes this is ALSO a possible hint on how many crew members there are and will be. The Eight Precepts ('The Eight' chapter title referring to Brook) becoming the Ten Precepts would match in Oda's interview that new members will successively join - meaning that it strongly hints at least TWO more members, making ten.
Now there ARE problems with the precepts, mostly the fact that after the Eight Precepts, other than Brook, it doesn't seem to match the others, yeah I don't know either but take into account that at the time, Chopper and Brook was foreshadowed, because well.. they needed (and wanted) a Doctor and Musician. A lot of those from the Ten Precepts seems to fit more of what Luffy does, especially sixth and ninth, I know.. I'm pretty lost myself, but hey if you catch Robin and/or Franky doing any of the other things, feel free to let me know lol.
Actually hmm.. thinking more about it now.. what if those the sixth and the ninth precept that Luffy is covering is saved for the next 2 members? meaning that the eight and tenth actually covers Robin and Franky respectively.. I mean Robin does use makeup (not like that's a big deal lol) and Franky DID steal their gold when they first met him.. I don't know, I might be reaching but if I'm not then the next two members will cover what Luffy has been - eating at forbidden times (man this is giving me vibes for a certain pink haired character....) and lying on high/luxurious places.[/hide]
Now to wait one more week..
great!i especially like your take on the dynamic between sanji and zoro.if we look at before the ts,i think this also fits in with many of their roles and actions.sanji decided to play mr. prince,using cunning and strategy which really helped out the shs.zoro decided to take on 100 bounty hunters in whiskey peak by himself,so that the others could rest.likewise,many of their actions had similar motives,but quite different methodology.so(which is why sanji is proficient in observation,and zoro in armament).so their appearance being shown as contrasting to their previous mentality after ts shows a sort of growth.
but,do you think that means their roles will change?as in,now sanji is more likely to do actions that zoro would have done earlier,and vice versa?
personally,i don't think so,just wanted to know your thoughts.
also,about the health benefits(exaggerated) of food,as we have been explicitly shown that sanji has learned a lot of new recipies from iva,what potential use do you see for them,apart from the obvious fitness,health and endurance?do you think that there is a chance that some recipes will affect each crew member distinctly,and cause specific changes?i am really interested in these recipes,and how they are used.[/link][/url]) [- IF you haven't noticed yet, yes this is ALSO a possible hint on how many crew members there are and will be. The Eight Precepts ('The Eight' chapter title referring to Brook) becoming the Ten Precepts would match in Oda's interview that new members will successively join - meaning that it strongly hints at least TWO more members, making ten.Now there ARE problems with the precepts, mostly the fact that after the Eight Precepts, other than Brook, it doesn't seem to match the others, yeah I don't know either but take into account that at the time, Chopper and Brook was foreshadowed, because well.. they needed (and wanted) a Doctor and Musician. A lot of those from the Ten Precepts seems to fit more of what Luffy does, especially sixth and ninth, I know.. I'm pretty lost myself, but hey if you catch Robin and/or Franky doing any of the other things, feel free to let me know lol.
Actually hmm.. thinking more about it now.. what if those the sixth and the ninth precept that Luffy is covering is saved for the next 2 members? meaning that the eight and tenth actually covers Robin and Franky respectively.. I mean Robin does use makeup (not like that's a big deal lol) and Franky DID steal their gold when they first met him.. I don't know, I might be reaching but if I'm not then the next two members will cover what Luffy has been - eating at forbidden times (man this is giving me vibes for a certain pink haired character….) and lying on high/luxurious places.[/hide]
Now to wait one more week..
great!i especially like your take on the dynamic between sanji and zoro.if we look at before the ts,i think this also fits in with many of their roles and actions.sanji decided to play mr. prince,using cunning and strategy which really helped out the shs.zoro decided to take on 100 bounty hunters in whiskey peak by himself,so that the others could rest.likewise,many of their actions had similar motives,but quite different methodology.so(which is why sanji is proficient in observation,and zoro in armament).so their appearance being shown as contrasting to their previous mentality after ts shows a sort of growth.
but,do you think that means their roles will change?as in,now sanji is more likely to do actions that zoro would have done earlier,and vice versa?
personally,i don't think so,just wanted to know your thoughts.
also,about the health benefits(exaggerated) of food,as we have been explicitly shown that sanji has learned a lot of new recipies from iva,what potential use do you see for them,apart from the obvious fitness,health and endurance?do you think that there is a chance that some recipes will affect each crew member distinctly,and cause specific changes?i am really interested in these recipes,and how they are used.](- [b]IF you haven't noticed yet[/b], yes this is ALSO a possible hint on how many crew members there are and will be. The Eight Precepts ('The Eight' chapter title referring to Brook) becoming the Ten Precepts would match in Oda's interview that new members will successively join - meaning that it strongly hints at least TWO more members, making ten.Now there ARE problems with the precepts, mostly the fact that after the Eight Precepts, other than Brook, it doesn't seem to match the others, yeah I don't know either but take into account that at the time, Chopper and Brook was foreshadowed, because well.. they needed (and wanted) a Doctor and Musician. A lot of those from the Ten Precepts seems to fit more of what Luffy does, especially sixth and ninth, I know.. I'm pretty lost myself, but hey if you catch Robin and/or Franky doing any of the other things, feel free to let me know lol.
Actually hmm.. thinking more about it now.. what if those the sixth and the ninth precept that Luffy is covering is saved for the next 2 members? meaning that the eight and tenth actually covers Robin and Franky respectively.. I mean Robin does use makeup (not like that's a big deal lol) and Franky DID steal their gold when they first met him.. I don't know, I might be reaching but if I'm not then the next two members will cover what Luffy has been - eating at forbidden times (man this is giving me vibes for a certain pink haired character....) and lying on high/luxurious places.[/hide]
Now to wait one more week..
great!i especially like your take on the dynamic between sanji and zoro.if we look at before the ts,i think this also fits in with many of their roles and actions.sanji decided to play mr. prince,using cunning and strategy which really helped out the shs.zoro decided to take on 100 bounty hunters in whiskey peak by himself,so that the others could rest.likewise,many of their actions had similar motives,but quite different methodology.so(which is why sanji is proficient in observation,and zoro in armament).so their appearance being shown as contrasting to their previous mentality after ts shows a sort of growth.
but,do you think that means their roles will change?as in,now sanji is more likely to do actions that zoro would have done earlier,and vice versa?
personally,i don't think so,just wanted to know your thoughts.
also,about the health benefits(exaggerated) of food,as we have been explicitly shown that sanji has learned a lot of new recipies from iva,what potential use do you see for them,apart from the obvious fitness,health and endurance?do you think that there is a chance that some recipes will affect each crew member distinctly,and cause specific changes?i am really interested in these recipes,and how they are used.) -
Hancock is there to look pretty, deliver the laughs, aid Luffy and so on. You're not gonna see her all battered and bruised in the war of the best like Zoro against any opponent.
Hancock fought in THE WAR. She smashed PX like blueberries. And didn't get a single scratch on her beautiful skin :p
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I've read it, yeah but I don't actively follow it. Not really sure why you asked though. Yeah, Bonney crossed my mind lol.
Because that exact scenario you outlined of Zoro and Sanji being opposite to what they were pre-timeskip happened to some of the protagonists in the most recent chapters in seven deadly sins in order for them to "improve" their skills in battle. Frighteningly similar, almost word for word of what you wrote happened lol sorry didn't mean to confuse you.
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The One who destroyed Nami hometown was kaido ?! ( but i dont know…....... )
or kaido maybe a designer like pappug :ninja:
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Nami's left boob belongs to KaidouWell sunny team got the attention of kaidou's pirates there, maybe more will return to fight them. Zou's plot could be related to Kaidou. -
What I'm gonna say it has nothing to do with this chapter, we may say with the previous one, but since I dunno where to put I'll put it here..
"I took this page from mangastream"
How about starting from here? for "OUR" last battle, why he didn't say "my" instead? from what we have read and saw from this chapter it was a quite clear that Kaido doesn't give a shit about anything, and he was always fighting alone, so what's the point from the army of smily users? and why person such a smart ass as doffy do such thing while it doesn't help him in anything in the first place? allow me to remind you something, Doffy wants to destroy the world and also Kaido wants that and it was clearly from his last words, he use "OUR" instead, and Doffy was preparing something all along and make him wait for the right moment when he get ready
Doffy wants to destroy the world, so why he was afraid from Kaido? he wasn't afraid from Kaido him self, he may either afraid that will ruin his relationship with him or and most likely that Kaido is an impatient as we can see from the page I put. Plus…
That's prove my point, besides Law planing was to let Doffy and Kaido fight each other to take down Kaido, if Doffy wasn't that stronger to stand against him so what's the point from this plan? I know Kaido would win, my point is that Doffy isn't "nothing" compare to Kaido, he can do some seriously damage even with his army
Let's go straight to the point… Kaido and Doffy been planning for the "biggest war" to take down the world
Sorry for my bad english, I hope it's not difficult to understand
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Disagree. He was intending for Kaido to beat Doffy for him. He never intended to take down Kaido, he was simply using Luffy to take down Doffy. Makes me wonder what the future holds, though obviously we still got to reunite with Law's crew and half of the Strawhats.
Actually…this makes me wanna see some adventures with just Sanji, Nami, Brook, and Chopper teaming up with Laws crew (minus Law). Would be really cool!
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Nami's left boob belongs to KaidouWell sunny team got the attention of kaidou's pirates there, maybe more will return to fight them. Zou's plot could be related to Kaidou.This whole thing makes me curious too. (Also lol about her left boob)
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-Coughs- (I was trying to avoid that topic) Don't worry Jinbei fans! He'll join okay? OK.
Well anyways, you've already said the problems and the possibilities of more character exposition. Jinbei is really honorable, I can't see him eating at forbidden times since he seems disciplined, can't see him sitting/laying around unless he's formally the lookout or something and that's not much reflected from his past rather than it would just be a job but.. maybe.. hmm.. he uses the money to free slaves everywhere they go? I don't know man. Shot in the dark.
What about that scene on amazon lily where Jinbei is stuffing his face on a meal Boa Hancock brought for luffy?
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Anyone got a link as to where I can find stephen's trans for every chap?
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Anyone got a link as to where I can find stephen's trans for every chap?
viz media, buy it.
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Powermanga is still pretty good.
