You got them all didn't you,, but..but who will be the BON-CHAN of Dressrosa?? SENIOR-PINK??
Hmmmm… Baby-5?!
You got them all didn't you,, but..but who will be the BON-CHAN of Dressrosa?? SENIOR-PINK??
Hmmmm… Baby-5?!
Kuzan, is going to have one heck of a role to play.
That's what I got the vibe for. The royalty stuff especially. Zou for me though is the black sheep. I'm not sure how that will fit in if the patterns follows. That yonkou conflict is definitely being hinted at. All depends on what Sanji's side of the SHs do against Big Mom's ship.
I have a feeling Skypeia is more connected then we think. Especially if it turns out Enel is the Seventh Shichibukai. All speculative of course.
It's not speculative, it's already been said it was a devil fruit user whom was hinted wielding a sword/knife is the seventh, so unless Oda gives Enel a sword out of nowhere, he isn't even an option for the seventh.
Plus, Zephyr got his arm cut off on the blue sea, Enel lived in Skypea, and then the moon. Unless he Came to the blue sea right after Marineford, even though it seems he stayed on the moon with his new "followers".
Enel wields a staff which he can change into a blade.
First of Z's entire character is not cannon so whatever you say about Z doesn't matter regardless if Oda designed him. Second where was that said? I don't remember that at all? Third I think it would be lame if Enel was the 7th warlord cuz Luffy already beat him and Enel will NEVER EVER beat Luffy because he depends on his DF way too much. Like all logias. Even if Enel has been training his 1v1 skills by this time he will still be way behind Luffy.
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Sry that came off a lot more aggressive then i meant it :)
Scrambled tamago and grilled turtle lion cuisine, by the swirlyhats pirates special dish, newworld headache for dessert…..
With the defeat of doffy I can't help but wonder how the crew can hope to take on kaido, especially now that all his wrath will be on the strawhats.
Maybe some kind of team up/collaboration with all of wano? Anything less than that and I find it hard to believe they could even get near kaido.
All his wrath won't be on SH/Law, big mom and Kaidou will be against each other as she wants Caesar. I see them clashing and SH take on winner eventually
We shouldn´t forget the reason the samurai from Wano Kuni are out there.
Afterall Momonusuke also seems to be an ace worth having.
@Don:
We shouldn´t forget the reason the samurai from Wano Kuni are out there.
Afterall Momonusuke also seems to be an ace worth having.
Thats one of those mysteries that is flying under the radar rn. What wood they be doing?
Thats one of those mysteries that is flying under the radar rn. What wood they be doing?
Who could say really but judging by their strong reaction to the mention of Kaido back on the Sunny you can bet well learn about their motives and agenda.
First of Z's entire character is not cannon so whatever you say about Z doesn't matter regardless if Oda designed him. Second where was that said? I don't remember that at all? Third I think it would be lame if Enel was the 7th warlord cuz Luffy already beat him and Enel will NEVER EVER beat Luffy because he depends on his DF way too much. Like all logias. Even if Enel has been training his 1v1 skills by this time he will still be way behind Luffy.
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Sry that came off a lot more aggressive then i meant it :)
Wasn't it that the character of Z is canon, but the events of One Piece Film Z are non canon?
Wasn't it that the character of Z is canon, but the events of One Piece Film Z are non canon?
No Z is made by Oda but just like Strong World isn't Canon and therefore everything Shiki did in the movie is not canon. Z never existed in the OPU. I have had some arguments about this and i think that Z is not part of the OPU at all but i could be wrong.
Z is canon character just like Shiki. It's just that the movies aren't.
Z is canon character just like Shiki. It's just that the movies aren't.
Shiri is cannon thanks to chapter 0. Why is Z canon?
Shiki is also mentioned in the main story. Not only chapter 0.
Besides the story of Strong World fits very well between Thriller Bark and Redline : "a few days late"
Z's timeline is really a mess though. At least it is now. Maybe it will fit somewhere in the future. But I doubt it.
Shiki is also mentioned in the main story. Not only chapter 0.
I remember Sengoku talking about the Golden lion but not naming him Shiki. Chapter 0 is the one I go by since it named and shown his design.
Just saying when I marathon One Piece I always watch Strong World and read chapter 0. (also Ryuma's short story because why the hell not)
Because it feels weird to read a panel where Sengoku hypes a character, if this guy never appears later.
However, there isn't the slightest reference to Film Z in the main story so there isn't this feeling of missing something.
For instance, some want to see Roche Tomson or Jack the broker just because of one panel.
Just saying when I marathon One Piece I always watch Strong World and read chapter 0. (also Ryuma's short story because why the hell not)
Because it feels weird to read a panel where Sengoku hypes a character, if this guy never appears later.
However, there isn't the slightest reference to Film Z in the main story so there isn't this feeling of missing something.For instance, some want to see Roche Tomson or Jack the broker just because of one panel.
oda drew z in that huge marine panel no?
Well, there's the chapter 691 cover which suggests that at least Z's existence is canon.
However, you're right that it isn't in the main story and therefore is no actual proof. Considering it's only a cover - and it's even labeled Film Z.
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For me, Z may or may not be canon. I don't really care because his existence in the main story wouldn't do anything aside of possibly refuting some random 7th Shichibukai theories.
@LordEnel:
oda drew z in that huge marine panel no?
You've got a point. Then again Chopperman got a cover too
Anyway, strong world becomes filler the moment Franky wears pants.
Usually it gets mentioned for the 7th shichibukai reference but even if it was canon then it doesn't mean that the 7th one is the guy/girl who did it. IT could just have easily been Doffy, Mihawk or some old Warlord we don't even know about.
Usually it gets mentioned for the 7th shichibukai reference but even if it was canon then it doesn't mean that the 7th one is the guy/girl who did it. IT could just have easily been Doffy, Mihawk or some old Warlord we don't even know about.
I believe it was mentioned that said pirate joined one year before the timeskip.
You know I think Oda's really improved on his colour works over the years. Like that Guiness Record Luffy. That looked pretty amazing.
I wonder what will happen to Boa Hancock when/if the shichibukai system is abolished.
What'll happen next? We know we're off to Zou, but what of it? We still have the Wano guys, and Big Mom. We also now have Kaidou on the Straw Hat's asses. My best guess is after this the straw hats regroup with everyone and get to Wano, something happens, maybe the straw hats get a crewmate or two idk who cares, and then we finally get to face Kaidou. Along the way the Heart Pirates separate, before rejoining the Straw Hats to face Kaidou.
I wonder what will happen to Boa Hancock when/if the shichibukai system is abolished.
She'll return to Amazon Lily to try and protect it from the WG most likely, since it's special status is dependent on her role as a Shichibukai.
I doubt the Shichibukai system would be gone soon. If it's gonna happen, it's when everything is happening. When things are breaking apart to usher in a huge change that's about to come. By then, Boa Hancock and all of the allies and friends the Straw Hats have made by that point would be standing up with the Straw Hats to the World Government. That kind of stuff.
My guess is at the Reverie starting with Vivi, Riku and Elizabello A LOT of the WG nations will split apart from the WG and sail under Luffy's flag. Therefore Luffy gains Yonko status at that point - and Hancock will be one of these.
I want to see Buggy's reaction when the Shichibukai are abolished. The poor guy managed to luck his way to the top and then it all comes crashing down. Somewhat because of Luffy, of course.
@Game:
I doubt the Shichibukai system would be gone soon. If it's gonna happen, it's when everything is happening. When things are breaking apart to usher in a huge change that's about to come. By then, Boa Hancock and all of the allies and friends the Straw Hats have made by that point would be standing up with the Straw Hats to the World Government. That kind of stuff.
Except that everything is already happening, the moment Law broke the gears New World began to shift.
Shichibukai system abolishment also makes no sense to be left too late in the series, cause we wouldn't get see the effect it has on Shichibukai themselves and how it would actually affect the balance between WG and Yonko.
Except that everything is already happening, the moment Law broke the gears New World began to shift.
Shichibukai system abolishment also makes no sense to be left too late in the series, cause we wouldn't get see the effect it has on Shichibukai themselves and how it would actually affect the balance between WG and Yonko.
I don't think you understand what I mean when everything is happening. We just started. The fall of Doflamingo does not mean the world is about to go down. A Yonko might go down in a couple years, but that doesn't mean "everything is happening". It's beginning. You just said the New World "began to shift". It does not have to happen at the end of the series, when did I say that? It's gonna happen when "shit's about to go down", when the world as we know it is done for, when Marines are doubting their purpose, when a Revolution is gonna come, when after we actually get something from Mihawk, when kingdoms are starting to band against the World Government - that's what I mean when everything is happening. It's too early to get rid of the shichibukai especially when we don't even know the seventh one yet. The balance between the WG and the Yonkou is already at risk - we've lost two shichibukais, and possibly one or two of the Yonkou is gonna be gone. Things are just starting - I very much doubt that we'd be seeing the Warlords go away any time soon.
@Game:
I doubt the Shichibukai system would be gone soon. If it's gonna happen, it's when everything is happening. When things are breaking apart to usher in a huge change that's about to come. By then, Boa Hancock and all of the allies and friends the Straw Hats have made by that point would be standing up with the Straw Hats to the World Government. That kind of stuff.
@Game:
I don't think you understand what I mean when everything is happening. We just started. The fall of Doflamingo does not mean the world is about to go down. A Yonko might go down in a couple years, but that doesn't mean "everything is happening". It's beginning. You just said the New World "began to shift". It does not have to happen at the end of the series, when did I say that? It's gonna happen when "shit's about to go down", when the world as we know it is done for, when Marines are doubting their purpose, when a Revolution is gonna come, when after we actually get something from Mihawk, when kingdoms are starting to band against the World Government - that's what I mean when everything is happening. It's too early to get rid of the shichibukai especially when we don't even know the seventh one yet. The balance between the WG and the Yonkou is already at risk - we've lost two shichibukais, and possibly one or two of the Yonkou is gonna be gone. Things are just starting - I very much doubt that we'd be seeing the Warlords go away any time soon.
Your posts heavily imply with the people following pirates against WG and marines doubting their purpose that you think Shichibukai won't be abolished until One Piece is actually found as that's the trigger to things being "done for" and I have the nerve to think that is very close to the end.
Yes, there might be a few arcs before that happens since 7th (and perhaps one Yonko going down) will definedly be trigger to that abolition.
The end starts at the climax. When what I am saying happens, it will not be the climax. It might be close to the climax, it might even be part of what triggers the events leading to the climax, but I very much doubt it'd be only a little amount of years left before the story ends. Regardless of what you think I said or implied, I did not say the abolition of the shichibukai has to happen at the end. There'd be much that will happen with end of the Shichibukai system, and I feel like when something as huge as that ends, other huge things will happen. That's why I feel like it will happen not any time soon, but not at the end either.
@Game:
The end starts at the climax. When what I am saying happens, it will not be the climax. It might be close to the climax, it might even be part of what triggers the events leading to the climax, but I very much doubt it'd be only a little amount of years left before the story ends. Regardless of what you think I said or implied, I did not say the abolition of the shichibukai has to happen at the end. There'd be much that will happen with end of the Shichibukai system, and I feel like when something as huge as that ends, other huge things will happen. That's why I feel like it will happen not any time soon, but not at the end either.
We might actually have somewhat similiar thinking when it comes this topic, I too think there will be something big that affects all the players of NW. Kinda of like fight that determines who gets to proceed to Raftel and also a tease of what's to come in the finale.
It's just that the things you typed about allies gathering and marines doubting themselves before One Piece being found seriously threw me off big time.
It makes much more sense to me if it were only the New World pirate allies (not every ally from the storyline) that would fight the main marines (not WG combined force/whatever secret weapons they have) before Raftel.
At most I think Revolutionaries will pop up at Reverie and sow the seeds of doubt in countries leader, expecially in the ones that Straw Hats have helped.
As for marines doubting themselves, do you think Smoker & Co going to be involved in Buster Call or something similiar now that he is a vice-admiral and has to question whether they are seriously doing the right thing
bombing a whole island just to kill a few pirates?
I feel that my own estimate for the Shichibukai abolition date (as said on previous post) is a bit overestimated as few arcs (2-3) already makes about 5 years. Considering in 2014 Oda's estimate for finishing the manga was 10 years, that would already make Shichibukai abolition quite late in the story. Assuming Oda actually does stick with his writing plan this time, that is.
(I doubt we'd finish in 10 years lol)
Let me pose a question. When do you guys think we see DD again, and what will his role be?
A role as relevant as Gekko Moriah. At least for now.
I feel like Doffy is gonna die. The reason why is because the WG can't just put him in ID cuz he is bound to have some type of backup plan to get the WG secret out Doffy is way too smart not to have one. So if he can't go to prison and he can't escape how else does he survive? I mean i guess he could escape but i doubt he will be able to considering that a marine Admiral is there, who actually wants to do something now mind you! Therefore the only thing i see happening is Doffy dying. Possibly by Laws hand or maybe a Dressrosa citizen for revenge.
Let me pose a question. When do you guys think we see DD again, and what will his role be?
I feel like Doffy is gonna die. The reason why is because the WG can't just put him in ID cuz he is bound to have some type of backup plan to get the WG secret out Doffy is way too smart not to have one. So if he can't go to prison and he can't escape how else does he survive? I mean i guess he could escape but i doubt he will be able to considering that a marine Admiral is there, who actually wants to do something now mind you! Therefore the only thing i see happening is Doffy dying. Possibly by Laws hand or maybe a Dressrosa citizen for revenge.
This is One Piece we are talking about here. Doflamingo has had pretty rough life and even though he might not deserve redemption he will most likely get one during the finale when rest of the tenryuubito are cast as mortals too.
I think if he is not recognized as tenryuubito anymore it could be that he will end up as a slave for them, as I doubt he will be taken to Impel Down considering it's not escape proof anymore.
Him becoming a slave would not only be karmic justice, but a great eye opening for him that might draw him to fight on Straw Hats side during the final fight.
Like I said i would love for him to be redeemed but i don't see a plausible situation in which the WG can deal with him or him escaping them at this point.
Oda would get my ultimate kudos if he created a character that was deluded enough to believe it was an honor to be a slave for the Celestial Dragons. I think that'd be a great way to show just how much they could break people's spirits.
While he is currently locked up, I can't help but still think he's gonna be caught up with another Yonko in the future, only more like a hench man more than anything. Originally I thought he'd escape from Dressrosa before being caught, and hide away for a bit. Guess Oda has different plans for him.
he's gonna get out of it sooner or later
All these "he's gonna get redeeemed/ become an ally" people should really be posting in the dumb predictions thread
How about keep his Warlord status but with one of those slave collars that goes boom?
Oda would get my ultimate kudos if he created a character that was deluded enough to believe it was an honor to be a slave for the Celestial Dragons. I think that'd be a great way to show just how much they could break people's spirits.
Kinda sounds like Baby 5
Kinda sounds like Baby 5
Ehh she was more I just wanna be useful not ohh yeah I'm a slave to a world noble!
am i the only one who'd love to see eneru come back and cause havoc in the new world?
Enel? i mean it would be cool to see him again but he would have to become an ally cuz Luffy could destroy him pretty easily.