I was talking about this picture, Jericho could have died?
Seven Deadly Sins
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@Shobu:
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I was talking about this picture, Jericho could have died?
She's probably just critically injured; I doubt she would have been offscreened. Ban can heal her anyway with his blood if necessary.
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@Shobu:
I was talking about this picture, Jericho could have died?
Nope he isn't dead. We just don't get to see her as the panel focus on Ban protecting Elaine.
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@LUFFYSMC:
Took some time to look it up. Not sure now either way, but Was under the understanding that the water just needed to be there, not necessarily anywhere near constantly flowing in order to be "effective". Unlike what Geharde wants which maybe if not immediately, at some point, (even possibly thousands of years later), definitely seems like overkill.
But it was constantly flowing back in the days. So it wouldn't be any different than back then. And it's definitely better than a couple of visits every few years. Especially if the fountain is now a human wandering in the world.
Willing to use for jokes indicates no real 'limits' to what he'll use it for, while odd, no big deal I guess.
When fighting in the forest, he used it. He also try to used it against explosion girl but got blow off.
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Out of the sins I think the only one with a normal lifespan are Escanor and Merlin, right? Meliodas is more than 3 thousands years old, Diane and King are rocking at least a good thousand year, Gowther is a doll and Ban is now immortal.
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Extra chapter about King and Helbram. Yeah. Another one.
It's short, and, I don't think it was really needed? But, anyways, King is not miserable in it, so there's that.
There's also a kinda forced "wink, wink" moment.
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Ferdinbeer posted his translation of some spoilers of ch 119. Taken from MH:
! Here are my translations of the spoilers.
! 七つの大罪 119話 ネタバレ
Nanatsu no Taizai Chapter 119 Spoilers
! 『<十戒>始動』
The Ten Commandments begin to move
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! アルビオンが敗れたのは
<十戒>たちも気づいていた
The Ten Commandments realized that the Albions were defeated.
! 誰が、まではわかってないが
倒され方の特徴は感知している
They can't tell who defeated them, but they can sense that they were defeated.
! まだ魔力が戻らないのをわかってなお
<十戒>の一人が見に行く
Even though their powers have not recovered yet, one of the Ten Commandment members goes to check things out.
! メリオダスの分身技はロストヴェインの特性で
所有者の闘級を半分以下に振り分けるもの
Meliodas' clones are a result of Lostvayne's ability, and each clone of the user has less than half of the original power level.
! 全反射をもつメリオダスだから
有効に使えたのであって
However, because Meliodas has Full Counter, the clone ability is very useful.
! そうでなければエリザベスを
ある程度の役にしかたたない
Otherwise, Elizabeth will only be useful to a certain degree.
(I admit, this bit has me completely stumped. I'm translating pretty literally but no idea what this means)
! そこに上空から何かが落ちてくる
その闘級、26000
And something falls from the sky with a power level of 26,000.
! 煽り
「メリオダスたちのもとに突如現れた
<十戒>の一人、ガラン!!
その闘級、圧倒的!!
勝機の見えない戦いが始まる!!
Gallin/Gallan/whatever the member of the ten commandments arrives before Meliodas and the others!!
His/Her power level is overwhelming!!
The losing battle begins now!!
! 次号、七つの大罪 120話、『圧倒的暴力』
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Extra chapter about King and Helbram. Yeah. Another one.
It's short, and, I don't think it was really needed? But, anyways, King is not miserable in it, so there's that.
There's also a kinda forced "wink, wink" moment.
It wasn't excellent and it wasn't bad. The form was good but there really wasn't much(or anything) when it came to the story. It kind of felt like reading a children book.
Well he may not be miserable in it but it sure make a point to show how big King is gonna fail considering he lost it all(or ironically Ban took all except the friend).
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The extra chapter was too cheesy for my tastes. It was more like the kind of short flashback a shonen character has before a big fight. If Nakaba had shortened it to two-three pages and put it into a regular chapter it wouldnt be that bad.
What I'm really looking forward is the nex episode of the vampire saga.
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Extra chapter about King and Helbram. Yeah. Another one.
It's short, and, I don't think it was really needed? But, anyways, King is not miserable in it, so there's that.
There's also a kinda forced "wink, wink" moment.
I have asked the same thing myself. Why when there's hooker pages, porn pages exists?
Was neccesary to remember us that King has that name because it's a king.
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I think the extra chapter would have been awarded to whichever character came top in the popularity poll, kinda explains why it felt so unnecessary. But as a big King fan I'm not complaining!
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When were the 10 commandments named as such?
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When were the 10 commandments named as such?
http://manga.redhawkscans.com/reader/read/the_seven_deadly_sins/en/0/111/page/18
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Im still waiting for a side chapter about Diane and the Giants Clan.
Todays NNT episode again had a derpy animation, I feel Toei wouldve done a better job(if they gave the series a budget like the upcoming Digimon series).
Sora Amamiya can really cry, usually most female seiyuus when they cry, they sound cringeworthy..
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http://manga.redhawkscans.com/reader/read/the_seven_deadly_sins/en/0/111/page/18
Totally forgot that part. Thanks
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I think I'll need a MASTERCLASS about Dreyfuss, Hendrickson, who they are, who they were, what is going on. . .
1- I assume, at one point in time, BOTH were regular, righteous humans, right? Like, during the Vampire side story?
2- I assume, at one point in time, Dreyfuss got possessed by a demon?
3- I assume, at one point in time, Dreyfuss started manipulating Hendrickson?
4- And, finally, I assume Hendrickson has no longer demonic influence in him and is back to being a righteous human?
How does the Zaratras murder play into these? They were regular humans when they killed him? Dreyfuss was already possessed? What about Hendrickson being from the Druid clan, does that have any influence on. . .anything?
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Aside from that, solid hype chapter. Though, honestly, at 26.000, even Zarbon could take care of him. What a pansy.
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Maybe Dreyfuss talked Hendriksen into murdering Zaratras, because the demon controlling Dreyfuss was scared of the purify ability? Wouldn't be surprised if Zaratras was the most dangerous to them with a ability apparently made for eradicating evil.
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Maybe Dreyfuss talked Hendriksen into murdering Zaratras, because the demon controlling Dreyfuss was scared of the purify ability? Wouldn't be surprised if Zaratras was the most dangerous to them with a ability apparently made for eradicating evil.
I wouldn't doubt it, but then again, Dreyfuss felt legit remorse, if I recall correctly? Like he did make it out of pure envy? I still don't even know if he has like a double personality at work, or as soon as the demonic entity went inside him, he's faked every single interaction he's had?
Again, really confused with how it all works.
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I wouldn't doubt it, but then again, Dreyfuss felt legit remorse, if I recall correctly? Like he did make it out of pure envy? I still don't even know if he has like a double personality at work, or as soon as the demonic entity went inside him, he's faked every single interaction he's had?
Again, really confused with how it all works.
If his fight with Gowther was any indication, he might not have known he was possesed. Like… he thought he was doing it out of his own volition, even though he was being forced/manipulated.
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I'm reminded of the Ginyu Force. And I like it.
Now, what I do not hope will happen is one of the Commandments getting defeated already. I'm so digging Galan's design and the little bit of his personality we've already seen. No doubt he'll be one of the first to bite the dust (being arrogant and whatnot) but not just yet please. Instead… let him wreck some havoc. You know, set an example as to what the Commandments are capable of.
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If his fight with Gowther was any indication, he might not have known he was possesed. Like… he thought he was doing it out of his own volition, even though he was being forced/manipulated.
And then, right during the rebirth of the Ten Commandments, he was going total mastermind mode.
It's the constant shifts from guilt consumed mess of a man to according-to-keikaku* that confuses me. And now Hendrickson going from crazy zealot to "we must save Britannia at once. . .just wait Dreifuss, my dearest friend, I'll save you from darkness!". It's all so baffling, but that might just be the author's intentions.
We'll see. If anything, it's got me interested.
*keikaku means "demonic plan slowly baked during 3000 years".
Now, what I do not hope will happen is one of the Commandments getting defeated already. I'm so digging Galan's design and the little bit of his personality we've already seen. No doubt he'll be one of the first to bite the dust (being arrogant and whatnot) but not just yet please. Instead… let him wreck some havoc. You know, set an example as to what the Commandments are capable of.
Next chapter is called Overwhelming Violence, so I'm expecting this fella to wreck some shit. Though it could also mean full devil Meliodas appearing again.
(Even though that Meliodas was defeated by Helbram, who in turn was defeated by Diane, who was defeated by Dreyfuss, who. . . . .yeah, power levels and this manga don't go hand in hand).
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I cant believe how much of a badly written character Hendrikson is.
Even if he was lured by Dreyfus what was he thinking that breaking the seal would mean? What a joke.
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(Even though that Meliodas was defeated by Helbram, who in turn was defeated by Diane, who was defeated by Dreyfuss, who. . . . .yeah, power levels and this manga don't go hand in hand).
Don't forget that Meliodas was mindless and he didn't used the black matter to protect himself from the sword.
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Judging by that preview, hell is about to wreck loose it would seem.
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I fucking love the armour designs in this series. At least I do when they are in black and white.
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I'm really excited about this arc. The commandments all seem genuinely exciting, not to mention I've been looking forward to seeing Merlin go all-out since we her introduction. And while I'm talking about her, was really cute seeing her protect Arthur as well as not allowing him to look whilst Meliodas was..observing Elizabeth!
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What if there was a demon possessing Hendrickson that recently passed to Dreyfus? Could that explain their human emotions?
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Hendricksen's character makes no sense at this point.
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What if there was a demon possessing Hendrickson that recently passed to Dreyfus? Could that explain their human emotions?
Well, he was tainted by demon blood and that demon side of him "died" breaking the seal.
But that doesnt make the whole thing look less ridiculous.
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Hendrickson make sense by himself, sort of. If you stretch it a bit. Dreyfus is the real problem.
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Why all the villains in this story becomes good after they are defeated? D: I don't like another One Piece villain bullshit… why!?
Galan is funny.
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! @kouch_lee:
! > I think I'll need a MASTERCLASS about Dreyfuss, Hendrickson, who they are, who they were, what is going on. . .1- I assume, at one point in time, BOTH were regular, righteous humans, right? Like, during the Vampire side story?
2- I assume, at one point in time, Dreyfuss got possessed by a demon?
3- I assume, at one point in time, Dreyfuss started manipulating Hendrickson?
4- And, finally, I assume Hendrickson has no longer demonic influence in him and is back to being a righteous human?
How does the Zaratras murder play into these? They were regular humans when they killed him? Dreyfuss was already possessed? What about Hendrickson being from the Druid clan, does that have any influence on. . .anything?
Aside from that, solid hype chapter. Though, honestly, at 26.000, even Zarbon could take care of him. What a pansy.
! @Darth:
! > If his fight with Gowther was any indication, he might not have known he was possesed. Like… he thought he was doing it out of his own volition, even though he was being forced/manipulated.
! @Jabberwok:
! > What if there was a demon possessing Hendrickson that recently passed to Dreyfus? Could that explain their human emotions?Was thinking something like that or maybe passing back and forth thru bodies possibly using their thoughts/ emotions/ subconscious/ unconscious of jealousy/ admiration (ironically changing also into jealousy/ envy), both as a gateway and place hide/ reside without their knowledge, controlling subtle at times and taking over at others. Probably would make the perfect opponent for Gowther, after Gowther gets quite a bit stronger.
And then, right during the rebirth of the Ten Commandments, he was going total mastermind mode.
It's the constant shifts from guilt consumed mess of a man to according-to-keikaku* that confuses me. And now Hendrickson going from crazy zealot to "we must save Britannia at once. . .just wait Dreifuss, my dearest friend, I'll save you from darkness!". It's all so baffling, but that might just be the author's intentions.
We'll see. If anything, it's got me interested.
Agreed. But even if his intention, still gives off a really awkward feeling to it. A lasting one with a bad aftertaste.
I'm reminded of the Ginyu Force. And I like it.
Now, what I do not hope will happen is one of the Commandments getting defeated already. I'm so digging Galan's design and the little bit of his personality we've already seen. No doubt he'll be one of the first to bite the dust (being arrogant and whatnot) but not just yet please. Instead… let him wreck some havoc. You know, set an example as to what the Commandments are capable of.
I don't know, think/ hope he'll be beat but escape/ get rescued by a teammate, and then be forced into cocoon like state to repair so he comes back stronger than his supposed peak, after a few of them have been taken out at full power already. Could see him being a temporary turning point till he then gets defeated…..
I fucking love the armour designs in this series. At least I do when they are in black and white.
Yeah, something about his armor in this chapter reminded me how so many characters we've just seen their armor. Interesting but hoping if this series lasts 100's longer, we see a newer way of diversifying them.
Well, he was tainted by demon blood and that demon side of him "died" breaking the seal.
But that doesnt make the whole thing look less ridiculous.
Can see that.
@Bold
Hendrickson make sense by himself, sort of. If you stretch it a bit. Dreyfus is the real problem.
Actually, nah…
Hendrickson's abrupt change this chapter makes it just as weird as Dreyfuss's change after his son's supposed death especially after seeing how his son/ family saw him in comparison was at the core of his supposed motivation of killing his brother........oh crap, please don't let his brother be secretly alive and on some Aizen mastermind shit, a la Ubel Blatt.
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I think I'll need a MASTERCLASS about Dreyfuss, Hendrickson, who they are, who they were, what is going on. . .
I'm gonna give it a try.
1- I assume, at one point in time, BOTH were regular, righteous humans, right? Like, during the Vampire side story?
Seems they were. From the flashback we got thinks to Gowther Dreyfus seemed genuinely good.
Hendrickson is tricky. We have the stories on how Hendricksen used to defend little Gill and his companions when they were scolded. We know he was a druid which usually mean you good. Meliodas respected him and all he did was because he thinks knights need a war to prove their worth so he wanted to cause and win the holy war.2- I assume, at one point in time, Dreyfuss got possessed by a demon?
Yep. Fraudin, Ten years ago(Zaratras murder's year)
3- I assume, at one point in time, Dreyfuss started manipulating Hendrickson?
Well with Hendricksen interest for war and fascination for Meliodas it is possible Dreyfuss merely use him rather than manipulate him. Maybe that's even why he used that body since he saw Hendrickson ambition would be of use. Seems clear he started longer than 10 years ago.
4- And, finally, I assume Hendrickson has no longer demonic influence in him and is back to being a righteous human?
He has no more demonic power. He merely had a twisted mind on what knights should do. So seing him want to avoid Britannia being wiped ou is pretty normal.
How does the Zaratras murder play into these?
He had a power of purification and was the greatest knight out there. Without him and framing the sins, they could easily take care of libarating the demons. And Zaratras wouldn't free his brother. If the sins were a problem, Zaratras surely was also.
They were regular humans when they killed him? Dreyfuss was already possessed?
Hendrickson was normal. Dreyfus was most likely under influence considering how much he loved his brother.
What about Hendrickson being from the Druid clan, does that have any influence on. . .anything?
Probably good for exposition moment, later in the story. And a reason to sense the demonic nature of Melio and be corrupted by it.
Aside from that, solid hype chapter. Though, honestly, at 26.000, even Zarbon could take care of him. What a pansy.
Give the man some credits. He's worth a good 20 Radittz and send earth-vegetal crying on Freezer's pod.
And like they say It's not even his final form…
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I wouldn't doubt it, but then again, Dreyfuss felt legit remorse, if I recall correctly? Like he did make it out of pure envy? I still don't even know if he has like a double personality at work, or as soon as the demonic entity went inside him, he's faked every single interaction he's had?
Dreyfus mind is most likely still here. Freudian mention how letting Hendricksen go was also that man request.
That explains why the spells was still able to affect him to some degree. But since the one in control is the demon he was still able to get out of the illusion (as the illusion was only traumatizing from the real dreyfus perspective).
Faked it or heavily influenced I would say. He said how woken up years ago(around Zaratras murder) and was carrying his plan. But I suppose the marks and the eyes could mean he only decided to fully control Dreyfus now that the other commandments are free.
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It's the constant shifts from guilt consumed mess of a man to according-to-keikaku*
Well actually[I think I'll need a MASTERCLASS about Dreyfuss, Hendrickson, who they are, who they were, what is going on. . . I'm gonna give it a try.
1- I assume, at one point in time, BOTH were regular, righteous humans, right? Like, during the Vampire side story?
Seems they were. From the flashback we got thinks to Gowther Dreyfus seemed genuinely good. Hendrickson is tricky. We have the stories on how Hendricksen used to defend little Gill and his companions when they were scolded. We know he was a druid which usually mean you good. Meliodas respected him and all he did was because he thinks knights need a war to prove their worth so he wanted to cause and win the holy war.
2- I assume, at one point in time, Dreyfuss got possessed by a demon?
Yep. Fraudin, Ten years ago(Zaratras murder's year)
3- I assume, at one point in time, Dreyfuss started manipulating Hendrickson?
Well with Hendricksen interest for war and fascination for Meliodas it is possible Dreyfuss merely use him rather than manipulate him. Maybe that's even why he used that body since he saw Hendrickson ambition would be of use. Seems clear he started longer than 10 years ago.
4- And, finally, I assume Hendrickson has no longer demonic influence in him and is back to being a righteous human?
He has no more demonic power. He merely had a twisted mind on what knights should do. So seing him want to avoid Britannia being wiped ou is pretty normal.
How does the Zaratras murder play into these?
He had a power of purification and was the greatest knight out there. Without him and framing the sins, they could easily take care of libarating the demons. And Zaratras wouldn't free his brother. If the sins were a problem, Zaratras surely was also.
They were regular humans when they killed him? Dreyfuss was already possessed?
Hendrickson was normal. Dreyfus was most likely under influence considering how much he loved his brother.
What about Hendrickson being from the Druid clan, does that have any influence on. . .anything?
Probably good for exposition moment, later in the story. And a reason to sense the demonic nature of Melio and be corrupted by it.
Aside from that, solid hype chapter. Though, honestly, at 26.000, even Zarbon could take care of him. What a pansy.
Give the man some credits. He's worth a good 20 Radittz ."] stuff happened and he's only been going at it for a a mere decade.](http://[QUOTE=kouch_lee;3435286)
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Fun chapter. So now we know how crazy of a boost King got from his metal vessel.
I always find it amusing that the thousand year old fairy king didn't know about demon being real.
Armored demon remind me of a previous armor. I wonder what kind of fighting style he is going to have.
Funny how he is called on his cockiness but doesn't take notice at all. I'm not yet sold on him but he could become entertaining.
I wonder what's the secret to Meliodas duration considering the demons commented on how they would be dead by now would they have lived normally.
I don't think I liked the depleted commandments being that strong compared to the albions or fairy king. I mean they will get a whole lot stronger by the time they replenished , right? But at least it is the top brass aside from the king of demons himself.
Maybe we get to see Diane special ability next.
I really don't like numbered power level.
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I don't see any plot holes in Hendricksen story. I'll use couch lee post to give my opinion.
@kouch_lee:1- I assume, at one point in time, BOTH were regular, righteous humans, right? Like, during the Vampire side story? Yes
2- I assume, at one point in time, Dreyfuss got possessed by a demon? Right. By Fraudrin.
3- I assume, at one point in time, Dreyfuss started manipulating Hendrickson? Sure thing; Fraudrin was the one manipulating everyone there in order to break the seal.
4- And, finally, I assume Hendrickson has no longer demonic influence in him and is back to being a righteous human? True. And the reason there's no more demonic influence in him is simply because the seal was broken, so there's no point on keeping that influence in him.
How does the Zaratras murder play into these? They were regular humans when they killed him? Dreyfuss was already possessed? Yes. He was already possessed. When he was under Gowther illusion, a tortured Dreyfus confessed he didn't want to kill Zaratras. So that was the demonic influence.
What about Hendrickson being from the Druid clan, does that have any influence on. . .anything? Not at all, at the moment.
An interesting question about Zaratras' murder and Fraudrin being the hidden hand behind it is: what was Fraudrin after in killing Zaratras and framing the sins? that's still a mystery, and it's pretty much what Merlin is reluctant to answer. Fraudrin needed all the pieces to break the seal, and one of them was the demonic handle. He knew Mel was an enemy since Mel was protecting that handle (remember he swear to protect it). But it seems it was Merlin the one who knocked out Mel and put him in that long dream. Why? Please Merlin tell us why… But the vibe I feel is that Merlin was protecting Mel from himself. She certainly is a friend, but has been keeping a close eye on him (given that she bought his treasure). So something bad was going to happen in that night when Zaratras was killed, something schemed by Fraudrin, something that involves Mel and the handle, and something that, apparently Merlin prevented as much as she could. It's very likely, Fraudrin didn't have all the pieces in that moment; maybe he discovered later that Eli's blood was one of them.
Now other big question is how was possible for a demon to be free of the seal? How was possible that Fraudrin were outside scheming and acting to release his mates? So there's another hidden, and apparently bigger hand behind Fraudrin…. Who has the power to manipulate the seal in such a way. For goddess sight! Something is really fishy about those goddesses; much more if they want to kill Mel because he threatens the clans and certain given order.
Coming back to Hendricksen, he was pathetic in this chapter. I don't see plot holes on his story, but he has become certainly pitiful. But it's ok, since now we have much more interesting villains; and some others that we don't know about.
… Did you see Albions were fodder? The funny thing is that an author that is so much inconsistent with the scale of powers introduce a powermeter to increase the tension of the fights. It's almost like a joke. But Nakaba has good sense of humor.
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The demonic part was killed by the goddness seal. Freudian mention even him may not have survived.
@Ukimix:An interesting question about Zaratras' murder and Fraudrin being the hidden hand behind it is: what was Fraudrin after in killing Zaratras and framing the sins? that's still a mystery, and it's pretty much what Merlin is reluctant to answer. Fraudrin needed all the pieces to break the seal, and one of them was the demonic handle. He knew Mel was an enemy since Mel was protecting that handle (remember he swear to protect it). But it seems it was Merlin the one who knocked out Mel and put him in that long dream. Why? Please Merlin tell us why… But the vibe I feel is that Merlin was protecting Mel from himself. She certainly is a friend, but has been keeping a close eye on him (given that she bought his treasure). So something bad was going to happen in that night when Zaratras was killed, something schemed by Fraudrin, something that involves Mel and the handle, and something that, apparently Merlin prevented as much as she could. It's very likely, Fraudrin didn't have all the pieces in that moment; maybe he discovered later that Eli's blood was one of them.
I'm more expecting it to be related to the artifact he stole from Merlin. The mystery about it is to great for the two to not be related. The sins don't seem that knowledgable about demons, anyway as they have disappear 3 thousands years ago.
I more consider the sins as companions than friends.
Now other big question is how was possible for a demon to be free of the seal? How was possible that Fraudrin were outside scheming and acting to release his mates? So there's another hidden, and apparently bigger hand behind Fraudrin…. Who has the power to manipulate the seal in such a way. For goddess sight! Something is really fishy about those goddesses; much more if they want to kill Mel because he threatens the clans and certain given order.
Considering they wanted even Meliodas to be killed and goddness and demon are on the opposite side of the spectrum(so much that they sealed them), I doubt they would help a demon stay free.
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What was killed by the breaking of the seal was the red and gray (or black? don't remember) part. I think the demonic influence is a different thing. It could have been activated again by Fraudrin, but he was no more interested.
Now, Dreyfus is now interesting. Because Hendricksen saying that he wants to bring Dreyfus back points to the fact that he's different to the other demons. I mean how is Fraudrin real body? Likely his current body is not the real one, say the same he had 3000 years back, when Dreyfus didn't exist. And likely, only Fraudrin spirit was free wandering around since some years back. Anyway, the perspective is that there some part of Dreyfus in Fraudrin, even after the breaking of the seal.
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What was killed by the breaking of the seal was the red and gray (or black? don't remember) part. I think the demonic influence is a different thing. It could have been activated again by Fraudrin, but he was no more interested.
Gray. Hendricksen wasn't brainwashed, his ambitions were merely used by Fraudin. Nothing about controlling his mind.
Now, Dreyfus is now interesting. Because Hendricksen saying that he wants to bring Dreyfus back points to the fact that he's different to the other demons. I mean how is Fraudrin real body? Likely his current body is not the real one, say the same he had 3000 years back, when Dreyfus didn't exist. And likely, only Fraudrin spirit was free wandering around since some years back. Anyway, the perspective is that there some part of Dreyfus in Fraudrin, even after the breaking of the seal.
We can be certain he is different since the other demon point out he had a human body.
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Gray. Hendricksen wasn't brainwashed, his ambitions were merely used by Fraudin. Nothing about controlling his mind.
Right, because none of the other people who imbibed the red demon's blood had their personalities affected.
I think it's safe to say that drinking a demon's blood enhances a person's worst qualities, making them more ambitious, more callous, and more violent. since we don't know exactly what happened the day Zaratras died we don't know what role Hendricksen played, whether he was the one egging Dreyfus on or vice versa. We also don't know exactly when Hendricksen first drank a demon's blood. What we do know is that the only ways to really reverse the insidious influence of a demon's blood are either to purge the blood or to receive a major moral shock. Between having the gray demon's blood removed by the release ritual and being beaten to within and inch of his life, nursed back to health by his best friend only to find out that friend's been possessed by a demon who used him to release a 3,000 year old horror and left him to die, I'd say Hendricksen has had enough to see the error of his ways. Suzuki seems to be in to redeeming his larger characters anyway.
New theory on Dreyfus: he doesn't/didn't know he's being possessed. Suppose Fraudrin only subtly influences Dreyfus's decisions and when he does take control, Dreyfus doesn't remember anything unusual happening. For instance, when Fraudrin beat Gowther, Dreyfus would think he still did it. That means that Dreyfus is fine experiencing the normal range of human emotions right up until the point where Fraudrin takes control.
Hell, it could even be justified by saying that Dreyfus's body wouldn't last long if Fraudrin was always in control, or that it was easier to infiltrate humanity if Dreyfus was behaving mostly normally.
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I'm reminded of the Ginyu Force. And I like it.
Now, what I do not hope will happen is one of the Commandments getting defeated already. I'm so digging Galan's design and the little bit of his personality we've already seen. No doubt he'll be one of the first to bite the dust (being arrogant and whatnot) but not just yet please. Instead… let him wreck some havoc. You know, set an example as to what the Commandments are capable of.
Well, lets consult the Villain Underling playbook. Is the underling
1: Very aesthetically different, not traditionally handsome, slightly kooky and upbeat?
2: Kinda generic, traditionally handsome, more cool and reserved?If 1, proceed to Not Top Tier In His Group, Discard Quickly
If 2, proceed to Kept Around For Ages Despite Boring Everyone To TearsSo I don't think Galans chances are too hot
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Nothing about controlling his mind.
We don't know that yet, and the possibility can't be rule out, because it's the only 'decent' explanation Nakaba has now. Making Hendricksen ambitious enough to betray all his mates and use demon blood, and now wanting to notify the good guys to safe the world is, as it was pointed above, bad writing, if there is no additional explanation. It would be bad writing because the character loses all credibility which is the worst fate a character can have. The demonic influence, kind of Gollum and the ring, is the only chance Hendricksen has to be saved of the bad written characters box, and to make his "new attitude" barely credible.
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Ahhh! Now I understand, thanks to kdom post. It was the blood. The blood was the 'evil object' that turned Hendricksen to the bad side much more than what he was at the beginning when he was ambitious and began to experiment with it. The first 'wrong' steps were taken by Hendricksen alone, which included drinking the blood demon. When he did this and from that point on, he became more evil due to the demonic influence of the blood. Now that the red and gray demon blood has been removed from his body he sees what is happening and what he was doing with different eyes…. Anyway, it's possible that someone spit in his face when he tries to help the good guys again. -
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Well, lets consult the Villain Underling playbook. Is the underling
1: Very aesthetically different, not traditionally handsome, slightly kooky and upbeat?
2: Kinda generic, traditionally handsome, more cool and reserved?If 1, proceed to Not Top Tier In His Group, Discard Quickly
If 2, proceed to Kept Around For Ages Despite Boring Everyone To TearsSo I don't think Galans chances are too hot
Let me just say that I hate that smart book of yours, Daz.
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Galan will probably wreck them, just to be defeated later by one the the Sins, showing how much they grew in strength.
Or defeat the group just to be saved by some mystery person before Annihilation.or he's going to straight-up lose, which wouldn't make sense if considering the prophecy. Or maybe that bit is just a red herring or some sort of mislead that refers to a future battle and not what happened with Albion and∨ is going to happen with Galan.
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@Daz:
Well, lets consult the Villain Underling playbook. Is the underling
1: Very aesthetically different, not traditionally handsome, slightly kooky and upbeat?
2: Kinda generic, traditionally handsome, more cool and reserved?If 1, proceed to Not Top Tier In His Group, Discard Quickly
If 2, proceed to Kept Around For Ages Despite Boring Everyone To TearsSo I don't think Galans chances are too hot
To be fair there is at least 3 more who are type 1.
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Edinburgh Story Part 3
! Escanor buff as fuck, literally has power of the sun. Vampire king btfo.
Zeldris and Gelda were lovers, Zeldris sealed her.
Meliodas is the youngest brother, Estarossa being the oldest one, confirmed
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Right, because none of the other people who imbibed the red demon's blood had their personalities affected.
I said he wasn't brainwashed by Fraudin. Meaning take control of his free will. We know he got the demon body 20 years ago, that he was already intrigued by the power of Meliodas when he met him and that he wants the holy war because war is the purpose of knights.I think it's pretty safe to safe Henri has been preparing for more than 10 years. Freudian merely got back woken 10 years ago and wouldn't need to have disputes with Hendri if he is controlling his brain.
I think it's safe to say that drinking a demon's blood enhances a person's worst qualities, making them more ambitious, more callous, and more violent.As for being affected by the blood, the only one we saw before and after is Jericho and she didn't really slent.
She didn't seem that different to me aside from when she confronted Ban which humiliated her deeply.
Since we don't know exactly what happened the day Zaratras died we don't know what role Hendricksen played, whether he was the one egging Dreyfus on or vice versa.
Dreyfus asked
http://manga.redhawkscans.com/reader/read/the_seven_deadly_sins/en/0/61/page/8On Deyfus still being there. I suppose that's what Gowther is asking when saying which one is talking:http://manga.redhawkscans.com/reader/read/the_seven_deadly_sins/en/0/77/page/10
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@Daz:
Well, lets consult the Villain Underling playbook. Is the underling
1: Very aesthetically different, not traditionally handsome, slightly kooky and upbeat?
2: Kinda generic, traditionally handsome, more cool and reserved?If 1, proceed to Not Top Tier In His Group, Discard Quickly
If 2, proceed to Kept Around For Ages Despite Boring Everyone To TearsSo I don't think Galans chances are too hot
He will most likely be forced to retreat but I doubt he die that soon.
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Freudian merely got back woken 10 years ago and wouldn't need to have disputes with Hendri if he is controlling his brain.
From where do we know that Fraudin was awaken 10 years ago?
Pics of the last part of VoE: http://imgur.com/a/4oMnY
And some spoiler written by ferdinbeer, Redhawk translator; taken from MH:
! > Based buffcanor, can't wait to translate this.
Some pointers:
1. Zeldris calls Estarossa 兄者 (anija) which is a respectful way of addressing an older brother. However, I have a hunch that they're not actually related. Maybe Zeldris calls Estarossa that out of respect and not blood because Mel and Zeldris are so similar but Estarossa isn't. At least, that's my theory. If all three of them indeed are related, we only know that Zeldris is younger than both Estarossa and Meliodas.
2. Meliodas calls himself "a failure of an older brother." Not necessarily "bad" because he did something morally wrong (although that could certainly be the case), but it's more of a "I failed you as a brother" sort of thing.
3. Zeldris and Gelda relationship is unconfirmed. The Japanese blogger that posted the pictures theorized that they were romantically involved and it's very possible, but from what we seemed to have been given in VoE part 3, we only know that Zeldris was charged with executing the vampires, but instead chose to seal them for her sake. We don't know why he did it, we only know that he did it for her.
4. Merlin knocks out Buffcanor with Gowther's blackout arrow amplified with her magic.
! "Buffcanor"s meaning is taken from this theory discussed in MH and posted by incognitop:
! > he might have 3 different forms.
Nighttime-Weakscanor
Morning-Buffcanor
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From where do we know that Fraudin was awaken 10 years ago?
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Pics of the last part of VoE: http://imgur.com/a/4oMnY
And some spoiler written by ferdinbeer, Redhawk translator; taken from MH:
"Buffcanor"s meaning is taken from this theory discussed in MH and posted by incognitop:
Shouldn't you spoiler that?
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I missed that part. That's interesting. It doesn't cancel the possibility Fraudrin was manipulating Dreyfus when he killed his brother; but sure he was not behind Hendricksen. Anyway, I keep thinking is difficult to believe Hendricksen wants now to play the good guy if we don't have an additional explanation of that twist.
On the other hand, someone released Fraudrin. So there's still much to be explained about who did it and why, and about what happened around Zaratra's death. It's also clear that there is someone in the shadows from more than 20 years ago, since the demon that attacked the forest 20 years ago was also released by someone else. Someone introduced the blood demon in the game; certainly a red demon was not able to do much; but his blood seems to be an evil object.
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Shouldn't you spoiler that?
Sorry. Spoiler tags added already.
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I missed that part. That's interesting. It doesn't cancel the possibility Fraudrin was manipulating Dreyfus when he killed his brother; but sure he was not behind Hendricksen. Anyway, I keep thinking is difficult to believe Hendricksen wants now to play the good guy if we don't have an additional explanation of that twist.
Considering the "flashback" from Gowther, his suspicions and the timing I'm sure he did take over Dreyfus at that time.
On the other hand, someone released Fraudrin. So there's still much to be explained about who did it and why, and about what happened around Zaratra's death. It's also clear that there is someone in the shadows from more than 20 years ago, since the demon that attacked the forest 20 years ago was also released by someone else. Someone introduced the blood demon in the game; certainly a red demon was not able to do much; but his blood seems to be an evil object.
The red demon burned down the forest so he did much(luckily Ban was there). Meh the blood only seems to cause problem when it runs Berserk(doesn't happen easily) or kill you.
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I said he wasn't brainwashed by Fraudin. Meaning take control of his free will. We know he got the demon body 20 years ago, that he was already intrigued by the power of Meliodas when he met him and that he wants the holy war because war is the purpose of knights.I think it's pretty safe to safe Henri has been preparing for more than 10 years. Freudian merely got back woken 10 years ago and wouldn't need to have disputes with Hendri if he is controlling his brain.
She didn't seem that different to me aside from when she confronted Ban which humiliated her deeply.
Dreyfus asked
http://manga.redhawkscans.com/reader/read/the_seven_deadly_sins/en/0/61/page/8On Deyfus still being there. I suppose that's what Gowther is asking when saying which one is talking:http://manga.redhawkscans.com/reader/read/the_seven_deadly_sins/en/0/77/page/10
I gotcha. Fraudrin didn't brainwash Hendricksen but I still think his personality was affected, namely by the demon blood. I might've taken that first comment out of context.
Geera and Jericho seemed darker and more sadistic to me when they had their power so I do think that the demon blood has a negative effect on a person's personality. It could be just as simple as "power corrupts," but I think it's more than that.
Thanks the the links, I didn't remember too clearly.