And on the flip side, while Katara and Aang have had a lot of hints, their natural chemistry was kinda awk and felt a bit forced at the end of Avatar, too
Avatar: The Last Airbender/Legend of Korra
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@Purple:
And on the flip side, while Katara and Aang have had a lot of hints, their natural chemistry was kinda awk and felt a bit forced at the end of Avatar, too
That's certainly true. Their kiss at the end was weeeeeird lol.
Well, at least Bryke developed their relationship over this whole season from the very beginning rather than just the last few episodes.
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I wouldn't say it was just the last few episodes, but I do agree that I would have liked to see more development of the two (mainly Asami) as a whole.
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At the end of S3 and for the first few episodes of S4 I was expecting the show to drift towards an endgame without any Avatar at all. Zaheer wanted to get rid of the line for somewhat legitimate reasons. Because why should there be one person in the world with powers like that? What if Kuvira had been the Avatar? Well, I guess she would have been lauded for returning balance to the Earth Kingdom. Speaking of Kuvira, she took over Korra's role during the latter's absence. The world didn't exactly end during the three years that Korra was out of action. Wu's endgame was to terminate the monarchy. Korra's could have been to relinquish her own (un)natural superiority. I'm not exactly sure how or what the trigger would have been but that's what I was thinking would happen. It would have brought closure to the series, obviously. I suppose it would have been bad for comics though.
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Mako Brannigan: Korra? When will I see you again? [He sees Korra and Asami holding hands and gasps.] the two of you are good friends? But I thought we would be good friends. Well, let's see how friendly you get when you're sharing a prison cell!
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The world didn't exactly end during the three years that Korra was out of action.
But it sure went to shit when Aang was.
And uhm, I'd say Kovira in power and with spirit gun weapon was… pretty bad. What if Korra'd taken another month to get back into things? Or Toph hadn't been around?
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Besides, it's not necessarily about needing the avatar's existence every waking moment. It's more about having someone bring the world back to order after things get off kilter
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Something I wanted to point out, to people not familiar with Fire Emblem, this IS Ike's ending.
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Ike leaves on a journey with Soren and they are never heard from again. Ike is the only Lord to have no S rank conversations with a woman or get married in his game.
Why am I pointing this out? The reason is because people are getting upset and saying that there is no way romantic implications could be inferred from either scene.
Saw this on deviantart (lol):
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Forgot this part, I'm glad they didn't kiss in the ending because I don't think it would have made sense and it would look forced. Maybe a little bit after being together alone would be better but even with the stuff with Katara and Aang the kiss at the end is so cringeworthy...
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People only discussing pairings instead of the history? Shit, i thought i was in the Avatar Thread. How the heck did i end up in the Naruto Thread?
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Smiled so hard at the ending I got a headache.
The Avatar's sexuality is an interesting subject considering it's technically the same person falling in love with men and women over the centuries. Unless, the Avatar having a family rarely happened. But, if the Avatar having a family was the norm then Korra could technically have thousands of relatives.Anyway, wish the comics didn't take so long to come out. Would love a monthly Airbender and/or Korra series.
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Well.. KorraxAsami pretty much came out of nowhere.
But I liked the finale. I just wish there was one last scene with Korra and her previous lives.
Korra and Asami were like glue in Book 3, they had more alone time together than either of them had with the boys. Book 4 implied there was something going on between them when it was revealed that Korra only wrote to Asami and then Mako even outright said at one point "What's going on between you two?" when they were arguing about Korra not returning to Republic City sooner. Then there was that scene in episode 8 where Asami made Korra blush with a compliment. How about Asami wanting to go back to South Pole with Korra? The implication was certainly there.
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Well.. KorraxAsami pretty much came out of nowhere.
But I liked the finale. I just wish there was one last scene with Korra and her previous lives.
THAT, would have been nice.
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I really liked the ending. The fight against that giant mecha was great, although i thought that the battle between Korra and Kuvira could have been a bit more intense. And the ending, although it was longer than in previous seasons, still feeled a little rushed and some characters could have used some final moment, line or something.
The engagement and wedding between Varrick and Zhu Li was really sweet and actually made me smile.
And the ending with Korra and Asami … awesome! I loved it. Although i don't care for all that shipping-stuff i was hoping they would end up together since they seemed like a nice pair. And regarding those who said it came out of nowhere ... If one of the two would be male, people would be like "They'll totally end up together!" since season 3. -
If you want to get the old avatars back, the best way that I see it being done is as now they are trully dead, they can reincarnate in other people, separated from Raava, so now there are a bunch of kids that are reincarnations of Aang, Roku, Kyoshi, Kurruk, Yang Chen, etc to Wan. They don't have the "avatar spirit" so they can't bend all four elements, hell they could even be non-benders. But other than the coment of Aang and his firebender childhood friend, and Toph's "frienships that last more than one lifetime" there's no indication than other people than the avatar can reincarnate, besides the fact that this is based on asian religions, where everything and everybody reincarnates.
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I](http://imgur.com/a/r0obx)t was subtle but noticeable, and if any of them would have been a guy, everybody would have said that they were a couple for a while.
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Other way to continue the series is to build up all the conflict between the avatar and Koh, him coming to face Korra (or the next one) and giving up because it's not the same person anymore.
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But it sure went to shit when Aang was.
And uhm, I'd say Kovira in power and with spirit gun weapon was… pretty bad. What if Korra'd taken another month to get back into things? Or Toph hadn't been around?
True. But that was 170 years ago. Nowadays we have mecha tanks. The fire nation was technologically way more advanced which in my mind made the war possibly in the first place (after Sozin's comet had passed). And even then, in the end Iroh might have been able to defeat the fatherlord instead of the avatar. With other white lotus members helping, I'm quite certain.
But anyway, all I'm saying is that that was my impression at the time. When Korra got poisoned the airbenders stepped up to do her job for her. Seemed to me like Korra was not happy about it because she realized that she wasn't actually needed. Then Kuvira happened and strengthened that belief. I think it would have made sense thematically for the Avatar to get "replaced".
Besides, Raava could always come back when the world goes to hell. :P
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The avatar if you keep looking at it is not needed in the whole sense of the word, as any super hero, if batman dissapareared someone else would have to take care of the villians, that the transition period was this clear cut is a miracle.
Besides, Aang's leave of absence lead to the extintion of the air nomads, and untold pain and suffering, while Korra's mere 3 years led to another warlord capable of conquering the world.
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If the air nomads had actually suceeded at keeping the peace, maybe you'd have a point. But they failed pretty spectacularly at covering for her beyond the small scale stuff.
But no, the Avatar isn't needed 24/7… there are long periods where the new one has to grow up and train, the world isn't in constant flux and upheaval... but the world knowing the Avatar is around as an impartial force of balance (who can go nuclear in the case of uber threats) well... makes a difference.
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Avatar, the legend of Tom (XVIII Century)
Tom has to stop the evil corporations polluting the world but at the same time he has to work to Support his family. He succumbs to Lead Poisoning in the production line. Nick rejects the storyline for reflecting days gone-by that doesn't happen anymore. The Korean animation studio that was supposed to work on it is forced to close and reopens as an ipod factory.
Shet, that got too dark at the end. Sorry.
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There's no europe in avatar world, he would be To om.
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I'm thinking that the creators could have gone that route and I felt like they had planted seeds. Ending the series with the end of the Avatar line just has a nice ring to it, in my opinion. I'm not even saying that it would have been painted in a 100% positive way. If they had gone with it, the air nomads might have been more succesful and we probably wouldn't have seen spirit energy weapons either. It would have mirrored Wu stepping down as a singular ruler.
Besides, who's to say that the Avatar will always be a good person doing the right thing? What if they abuse their powers? Well alright, that might actually be an interesting plot for a third series…
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It is weird, with ten thousand years of history, the avatar has been a mostly good force, I guess that the combination of a training to be impartial to get the bending (part of every nation), the need to be spiritual aware to be able to be the bridge (so with a balanced mind), the need for human conection having allies and friends (the reason that Yang Cheng exposes for the nececity for the avatar to be a human before we knew about Wan), and the guidance from the past lives (that as we known from both Aang and Korra, aren't all seeing nor a decisive influence)
Zaheer is the kind of person that an evil avatar would turn out to be.
If some sociopath turns out to be the avatar like Azula or Ozai , Rava might just deny it the powers, or turn off the avatar state in a critical moment to allow herself to reincarnate quickly, while if it turns out to be someone like Zaheer or Kuvira, then… sadly Might makes Right? See the avatar's influential actions: not focusing on their failures (except Roku's) Wang went prometeus on the world, and separated the spirits from the mundanes, Kyoshi phisicaly forced a state division from the earth kingdom and caused the death of one of the biggest conquerors known to us, Roku... stoped a volcano? failed to stop the 100 years war? Roku was boring, Aang deposed the Fire nation leader, caused the loss of the Wa shi tong library and took land from the earth kingdom to create republic city, while Korra keept open 3 holes in reality, perfectly capable of closing them.
While yes, it could be interesting, with the villians (Except odly a fire nation one) we got to see what an evil avatar could do to the world, Zaheer and anarchy, Kuvira and control, Unaloq and balance (as in the stupid version "I have to force evil to exist!")
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Avatar Jafar was probably pretty nasty. Just guessing since they never talk about him.
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It also helps that the second half of the avatar spirit also happens to be the spirit of Light and Order.
Although of course, they did do a few things they managed to regret over the years, although pretty much everything was looking through the lens posthumously down the road
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Great finale, great past two seasons in general! Goddamn, talk about a power couple. One is an uberrich inventer and innovator who built the capital of the world and the other is the motherfucking Avatar
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Avatar Jafar was probably pretty nasty. Just guessing since they never talk about him.
He created islands acording to the wiki. So Avatar Jafar Luthor. Also, it was said that Yangchen had tons of work to do, and did it so throughly that Kuruk was a screw up and… Roku made another mess. So only the female avatars and Aang get shit done.
There was also Avatar Gimli.
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Maaaannn :( next week I'm gonna rewatch the series.. Then probably ATLA for the 5th time… and then I'll just sob into a pillow.
One of the things I'll miss the most: The Music.
No other cartoon series can beat their soundtrack hot damn.Here's a nice review of ATLA for anyone feeling nostalgic.
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Haha. Is that you or as PIC you found online?
Picture online, none of them got tiddies.
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One of the things I'll miss the most: The Music.
No other cartoon series can beat their soundtrack hot damn.Hey now, Steven Universe begs to differ. Lots of great sound work on this show, though.
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My main wish for the Korra Comics is:
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Zaheer and Iroh meeting up in the spirit world.
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Well, since they couldn't really include them being a couple in the show, I hope we get something in Artbook 4.
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The artbook will be literally nothing but 168 pages of Korrasami pinups.
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@Cyan:
The artbook will be literally nothing but 168 pages of Korrasami pinups.
Well, going off of 2, we'll just get a bunch of backgrounds, mechs, and some Kuvira faces.
I really wish TLA had more than just one artbook.
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@Cyan:
The artbook will be literally nothing but 168 pages of Korrasami pinups.
With a couple of pics where Varrick, Zhu Li and their children have ruled the world and turned it into a utopia
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Your top 5 characters of Korra, go!
1. Varrick. He is a gem of and makes it to my favourites of all time.
2. Lin. Cranky, no-nonsense, badass with a… WAIT WE DIDNT FIND OUT ABOUT TOPH'S OTHER HUSBAND!!!
3. Bolin. He may have been the comic relief character, but I think he has substance.
4. Meelo - takes after Aang a little too well. Loveable freak.
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http://mikedimartinostory.com/2014/12/22/korrasami-confirmed/
http://bryankonietzko.tumblr.com/post/105916338157/korrasami-is-canon-you-can-celebrate-it-embrace
CONFIRMED for all you deniers
Aewsome :w00t:
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http://mikedimartinostory.com/2014/12/22/korrasami-confirmed/
http://bryankonietzko.tumblr.com/post/105916338157/korrasami-is-canon-you-can-celebrate-it-embrace
CONFIRMED for all you deniers
Well guess it's 100% confirmed now. Not too sure what to think about it, since I always kinda thought that most people shipped them just because it was hot. And they took it way too seriously! It's not that I hate a gay pariring in a kid's show, but it should be a pairing that makes sense. And for that there should be A) Some clear indication that the characters might be gay or bisexual, or B) that they might have feelings for each other AND not just be good friends. And I never particularly saw that in Korra or Asami, they were just very close friends. Well maybe there was a couple suspicious moments in the last season but this ship has been sailing since forever, just because ooo lesbians so hot. :getlost:
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http://mikedimartinostory.com/2014/12/22/korrasami-confirmed/
http://bryankonietzko.tumblr.com/post/105916338157/korrasami-is-canon-you-can-celebrate-it-embrace
CONFIRMED for all you deniers
It seemed kinda obvious, but at least it is confirmed now. Maybe they can do a bit more with the relationship in the comics that they couldn't do on T.V
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@Light:
And for that there should be A) Some clear indication that the characters might be gay or bisexual,
Figuring out that your attracted to the same sex isn't always a straight line, especially when everyone else around you is "normal". Even if you have the feelings or inclinations its easy to deny because its not what you're brought up to think. But, you meet the right person and you click, and you fall in love with the person, before the gender.
I have at least one friend who, while tomboyish, only really discovered they were gay only after the person who would later be their girlfriend started blatantly hitting on them, and now she's engaged. Even though she thought she was straight a couple years ago and was going after guys and still finds them cute and attractive. If they makes her bi, that is what it is, but she's totally into the girl thing now and she only discovered that after meeting the right person.
but this ship has been sailing since forever, just because ooo lesbians so hot. :getlost:
You can ship a couple for actual chemistry and because its cute… for more reasons than just "its hot".
Anyway, the pics have already been posted a ton of times now, its not out of nowhere, they were pairing them up as early as the second season giving them a lot of screentime and moments together, they were just being subtle and gradual about it... like real relationships. If you watch the whole series again with the end goal in mind, you'll see all the stuff pretty clearly, its absolutely there and not "out of nowhere". Just because Korra didn't go "Oh, so hot" like she did with Mako (which ended up being an empty, un-fulfilling relationship based on nothing but looks and led to a lot of fighting) doesn't mean the interest and chemistry wasn't there.
Again. I knew my girlfriend for six years and we never even entertained the idea of dating and then one day out of the blue things clicked suddenly and we discovered we were in love.
Relationships, real relationships, don't usually work in the way condensed hollywood storytelling usually forces due to having a 90 minute narrative to work with. Sometimes you click with a person within a few hours, oftentimes it takes years and you not really looking. Its different for everyone, regardless of gender or sexual preference, and its actually really nice that Korra and Asami had a couple failed attempts and didn't instantly latch onto the love at first sight thing.
Look at how Aang and Katara were... that was love at first sight (on Aang's part at least) but their actual chemistry was really awkward for a long period in there. Korra and Asami had a slow gradual build up over years, full of correspondence, letters and sharing and communication and trust.
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@Light:
Well guess it's 100% confirmed now. Not too sure what to think about it, since I always kinda thought that most people shipped them just because it was hot. And they took it way too seriously! It's not that I hate a gay pariring in a kid's show, but it should be a pairing that makes sense. And for that there should be A) Some clear indication that the characters might be gay or bisexual, or B) that they might have feelings for each other AND not just be good friends. And I never particularly saw that in Korra or Asami, they were just very close friends. Well maybe there was a couple suspicious moments in the last season but this ship has been sailing since forever, just because ooo lesbians so hot. :getlost:
Are you six years old?
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Anyway, the pics have already been posted a ton of times now, its not out of nowhere, they were pairing them up as early as the second season giving them a lot of screentime and moments together, they were just being subtle and gradual about it… like real relationships. If you watch the whole series again with the end goal in mind, you'll see all the stuff pretty clearly, its absolutely there and not "out of nowhere". Just because Korra didn't go "Oh, so hot" like she did with Mako (which ended up being an empty, un-fulfilling relationship based on nothing but looks and led to a lot of fighting) doesn't mean the interest and chemistry wasn't there.
Again. I knew my girlfriend for six years and we never even entertained the idea of dating and then one day out of the blue things clicked suddenly and we discovered we were in love.
Relationships, real relationships, don't usually work in the way condensed hollywood storytelling usually forces due to having a 90 minute narrative to work with. Sometimes you click with a person within a few hours, oftentimes it takes years and you not really looking. Its different for everyone, regardless of gender or sexual preference, and its actually really nice that Korra and Asami had a couple failed attempts and didn't instantly latch onto the love at first sight thing.
Look at how Aang and Katara were... that was love at first sight (on Aang's part at least) but their actual chemistry was really awkward for a long period in there. Korra and Asami had a slow gradual build up over years, full of correspondence, letters and sharing and communication and trust.
Granted, we do often see things based on our own perspections, and all I saw Korra and Asami being was very good friends. It didn't even occur to be that they might be romantically inclined, so when "Korrasami" started popping up everywhere I just brushed it off as yuri fans overreacting to every platonic gesture of affection. Perhaps that's why I may not have noticed the subtle hints of their chemistry that other people did.
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Sure, without the end you could write that off as good frienship, the other two most important hints, her helping her while in the wheelchair it's what anyone in her position would have done, and Korra blushing could have been written off as she wasn't used to get compliments on her looks.
There were hints, but without the ending, it was easy to writte it off as frienship.
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Watched the 3 last chapters and, wow, what can I say? I LOVED ATLA and because of that I like the Avatar universe as a whole and that also goes for LOK, but let's be honest, LOK was pretty weak and this was never as explicit as in this last season.
Everything was so poorly executed it was painful to watch in some times. They had a lot of good ideas, but most of the time it seems like they didn't knew how (or didn't had the proper time) to get there. Kuvira as a whole was not convincing as a villain, her threat as a giant Gundam was pretty much none and that last fight was awful (she couldn't hit a single person with that beam even if the person was standing in front of her), I mostly hate Zhu Li's development (one of the few cases I think it would be better to keep the character as a one sided joke instead of trying to develop it and making it lose its charm), don't even want to get me started on Wu, the way Korra finally surpassed her inner struggle… Also, the guest characters were handled SO poorly (the excuses to leave Toph out of the fight, Bumi and Kyra simply disappearing, Asami being pretty much lost in the plot).
Korrasami? Well, I kinda understand people saying it was out of the blue. Even me, who see homossexual relationships whenever authors give me the slightest hope, never saw anything going on in there. All the said hints I read as "They must be such good friends" and even then I thought "This is kinda forced though, they weren't that close".
Had I suspected there was something else being hinted there, I would probably feel the development was even less organic.
But, hey, at least there WERE hints, so in the whole mess that the last season was this was actually one of the few things that had some kind of proper planning... kinda?As I said, they had a lot of good ideas and sure good intentions. Be it about sexuality, political questions, gender questions... The problem here was the "how".
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This video is from August LoL
Check at 1:19!
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@Light:
It's not that I hate a gay pariring in a kid's show, but it should be a pairing that makes sense. And for that there should be A) Some clear indication that the characters might be gay or bisexual
Try reading the creators' blog posts a little more carefully.
Bryan talks at length about how their writing was fluid and how they basically had nothing except Korra's spiritual arc planned from the beginning.
Characters evolve, just as real people come to learn more about themselves over time, through their relationships with others.
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