@Devil:
Checked, Jabra was the one who mentioned it. It's a rumor, but I bet it's true, someone must have already tried it.
IIRC wasn't it stated by the Gorosei that not a single person in history had eaten 2 devil fruits. Or was it successfully?
@Devil:
Checked, Jabra was the one who mentioned it. It's a rumor, but I bet it's true, someone must have already tried it.
IIRC wasn't it stated by the Gorosei that not a single person in history had eaten 2 devil fruits. Or was it successfully?
Nope. It was stated by the Gorosei that not a single person in history had eaten 2 devil fruits.
You truly just inspired me!!
So to start off I immediately thought of shaky, and how it was mentioned that she looked young. So I looked up some info.
From the one piece wiki:
Twenty two years ago, her physical features looked exactly as it does now, but with certain subtle clothing differences
Not only was she looking the same 22 years ago, Shakky was a pirate that was chased by Garp 42 years ago. (this is based on her comment to Luffy his first time in SA that she was chased by his grandpa 40 years ago)
So she's at least in her late 50s but looks like she's in her late 20s/early 30s.
makes me want yet another spin off. the timeline should be during roger's era. would be fun to see garp, tsuru, wb in their prime. it's better if we see it from the marine's pov though. garp spin off oda!
I'm really happy that my predictions of both Tsuru and X. Drake appearing (although Tsuru is only mentioned :D), has come true!
would you mine if you post the link of your prediction? i want to read it Thanks in advance
Dammit Oda, why must you make Cora so likeable. I'm going to cry when he dies :sad:
Such a bittersweet chapter knowing what awaits Rosinante. Good to see more of Sengoku though.
would you mine if you post the link of your prediction? i want to read it Thanks in advance
Sure thing :)
They're here.
@Tyrano:
How many good old familiar faces would we possibly see in this flashback?
So far we got law diamanté trebol baby5 buffalo.
I think at least 7 more characters we know may appear.Hopefully Tsuru and/or X Drake cameos… since they seemed to have been part of Doflamingo and Law's past respectively.
for Doflamingo, Tsuru scolded him during the Shichibukai meeting in volume 25 telling him to stop playing with vice admirals.
For X Drake, he's from the same sea as Law and in Sabaody Law asked Drake how many people he killed on his way with Drake not answering.Of course I may have terrible memory and is completely wrong lol
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The way Tsuru spoke at Doflamingo telling him to be a good boy and stop just seemed like she knew a lot about Doflamingo to me.
Plus she's one of the long time members of Marine high command so...
If marines are involved in Law flashback I think we maaaay see her. Just a guess lol...
Perhaps it is my hazy memory but I thought Law spoke with Drake in Sabaody. Aren't they both from North Blue..?
Gotta go back and check lol.
But yeah I think we may see Bellamy as a cameo too!
Maybe a blink and you miss tiny bit part. The ones which Oda answers for SBS questions lol–- Update From New Post Merge ---
Yeah exactly! So if we see some Marines in this flashback Tsuru and/or Drake miiight appear.
Just a wishful thinking. Cuz I like the two characters heh
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You can click on the quotes to see where they came from heheh.
Rumor: A devil fruit user explodes when he or she gets close to another fruit (Jabra's version)
Truth: A devil fruit user explodes when he or she eats another fruit (Blueno correcting Jabra, later confirmed by people being shocked at Blackbeard gaining a second ability)
Le me thinking and should we actually believe that Jabra's rumor is actually a rumor going by the translation posted on this page.
This is being pull out of no where, but we know that there are three types of Devil Fruits which are Logia, Paramecia, and Zoans, what If those fruit also have three different demon/evil types as well and that's the main reason as to why Blackbeard was able to eat two types of fruits since he eat two different types so their inner demon does not collide with each other since they're not part of the same branch.
We know that Zoans have their own consciousness and Logias affect peoples personality, don't know how I should rank Paramecias since they can be almost anything.
So… we are going to see Doffy force his brother to eat the fruit, which will probably be done through string power in a dramatic scene where when Rocchi finally decides to talk he can't.
This would explain before why Doffy didn't think Laws anger was justified as you could interpret it either way. Tho mostly I'm basing it on this chapter which explicitly reminds us what happens when someone eats two and that Rocchi is certain he would be forced, this does leave the "but how would law eat it?" But I bet we are going to learn some new and interesting things about DF's.
Awesome chapter… Love Corazon even more.
But one question, cuz I missed a lot... Is the the shitty manga mentioning the previous Ope Ope no Mi User... a doctor? Or is it it just a fucked up translation.
Im wondering the same…
Sure thing :)They're here.–- Update From New Post Merge ---You can click on the quotes to see where they came from heheh.
thank you very much..now im really excited on whats going to happen next chapter.
Loved this chapter. One Piece truly shines during these deep emotianal flashbacks. Law is becoming one of, if not the best written characters in the story, with Doflamingo ( so far ) being the absolute best villian. The climax of this arc, the worldy reaction and the begining of the next arc is gonna blow us away. So much greatness awaits. Oda is setting it up perfectly. I love this fucking manga!
It's that time yet again… (this will be posted in the thread for it too)
One Piece Abridged: Mangapanda Edition – Chapter 765
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It's that time yet again… (this will be posted in the thread for it too)
One Piece Abridged: Mangapanda Edition – Chapter 765
will be up all night now wondering "Does Korra like Old Navy?"
Le me thinking and should we actually believe that Jabra's rumor is actually a rumor going by the translation posted on this page.
This is being pull out of no where, but we know that there are three types of Devil Fruits which are Logia, Paramecia, and Zoans, what If those fruit also have three different demon/evil types as well and that's the main reason as to why Blackbeard was able to eat two types of fruits since he eat two different types so their inner demon does not collide with each other since they're not part of the same branch.
We know that Zoans have their own consciousness and Logias affect peoples personality, don't know how I should rank Paramecias since they can be almost anything.
I doubt the gorosei would be in the dark about such a flaw.
Hmm, What If every D. can do what BB did. "Devil" tamers in a fashion, that could be something gorosei nor anyone would/could know about, power unification-power, the power to unite the sea devil's incarnations. Yeah I'd void a 100 years if that clan was after me.
If it serves by consolation, OP will be back in the same week that Naruto ends, so 3 times the joy.
Isn't it great? Cheers! Wooohoo!
It's obvious. Eternal life isnt used. You guys keep thinking about thats whats going to happen.
Law will eat the fruit and conduct an operation on himself removing the effects of amber lead like the kids in PH.
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Then Dofla will kill Corazon for this. For Coras betrayal. Coras purpose was to keep Doflas anger at bay and prevent harm from coming to anyone. Law has taken Coras will.
ahh, even mangastream said that "navy wants to sell ope ope no mi and some idiot pirates want to purchase it" :sad:. I just don't know what to believe anymore..
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Everything is just a rumour and assumption based on all we know. Fears has probably instilled throughout centuries meaning that people have been tricked by the world government to have people avoid getting two Devil fruits.
Blackbeard is doing something and it's hidden. He probably knows the secret. If there are 2 devils inside or a second curse why is Blackbeard still alive.
Therebhave been no confirmed cases of people dying from two DFs. Jabra had just a rumour and Lucci had an assumption.
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Le me thinking and should we actually believe that Jabra's rumor is actually a rumor going by the translation posted on this page.
This is being pull out of no where, but we know that there are three types of Devil Fruits which are Logia, Paramecia, and Zoans, what If those fruit also have three different demon/evil types as well and that's the main reason as to why Blackbeard was able to eat two types of fruits since he eat two different types so their inner demon does not collide with each other since they're not part of the same branch.
We know that Zoans have their own consciousness and Logias affect peoples personality, don't know how I should rank Paramecias since they can be almost anything.
This. 3 demon types makes sense.
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So… we are going to see Doffy force his brother to eat the fruit, which will probably be done through string power in a dramatic scene where when Rocchi finally decides to talk he can't.
This would explain before why Doffy didn't think Laws anger was justified as you could interpret it either way. Tho mostly I'm basing it on this chapter which explicitly reminds us what happens when someone eats two and that Rocchi is certain he would be forced, this does leave the "but how would law eat it?" But I bet we are going to learn some new and interesting things about DF's.
Yes probably.
However i dont tthink Cora will eat it. I considered the fact tthat it can revolutionise our view on DFs.
Doflamingo killed Roci. Roci didnt die after the operation on law. It doesnt make sense that law has eternal life but no disease.
Law cured himself after eating the DF. Dofla pulled off a birdcage over a whole area with Roci inside it.
It would be good if somebody makes a thread having all the events put in a timeline for a nice reference. Apart from the usual character flashbacks, we will be having quite a lot of flashbacks related to the ancient kingdom too going forward so it would be nice to get a timeline based view of the OP universe.
Wonder if a thread like this exists already?!
ahh, even mangastream said that "navy wants to sell ope ope no mi and some idiot pirates want to purchase it" :sad:. I just don't know what to believe anymore..
Use your logic.
If the pirates were buying them from the marines, then why do they already have it 3 days before the trade?
It's made blatantly clear from both the text and the scenario.
The marines offered a very large lump of money for it, and the Diez pirates are selling the fruit to them.
All the People really start to like Corazon (or Brorazon), but now think of it: that dude is a son of a tenryuubito! Don't get me wrong, since this chapter I like him too (funniest Display of DF-abilities ever!)
I just never thought that Oda might make us actually liking a tenryuubito,even if it is just a former (Nefertaris don't count!)
Use your logic.
If the pirates were buying them from the marines, then why do they already have it 3 days before the trade?It's made blatantly clear from both the text and the scenario.
The marines offered a very large lump of money for it, and the Diez pirates are selling the fruit to them.
I know it is mistranslation, thanks to your summary Mr.Blue. But but… after CCC stop translating, I put my trust on MS. Making such an obvious mistranslation in high quality scanlation, I've felt betrayed :sad: ...
Looks like Aohige is living up to his reputation. That's why it's the Aohige-Aohige fruit in today's abridged instead of Mangastream-Mangastream :P
Aohige=best, MS=medium, Mangapanda=satan's excrement
All the People really start to like Corazon (or Brorazon), but now think of it: that dude is a son of a tenryuubito! Don't get me wrong, since this chapter I like him too (funniest Display of DF-abilities ever!)
I just never thought that Oda might make us actually liking a tenryuubito,even if it is just a former (Nefertaris don't count!)
This is why all the stuff with D's and CD's is too complicated now, you don't really know which ones are the good ones and which ones the douches, with Teach being one of the biggest dicks in OP having the D, and Homing being super cool guy while also being former CD.
she looks exactly like that other blue haired girl from the Z movie
You must be confused, no One Piece women look alike.
I know it is mistranslation, thanks to your summary Mr.Blue. But but… after CCC stop translating, I put my trust on MS. Making such an obvious mistranslation in high quality scanlation, I've felt betrayed :sad: ...
I'm pretty sure both panda and MS had staff change recently.
They weren't this bad till just recently, I mean mistakes were made here and there, but I don't think they were this incoherent.
From someone's post earlier, Doffy's crew meeting scene was also messed up right?
now THIS feels like classic one piece, loving this flashback to bits especially Corazon and Law's relationship <3 <3
@xan:
It would be good if somebody makes a thread having all the events put in a timeline for a nice reference. Apart from the usual character flashbacks, we will be having quite a lot of flashbacks related to the ancient kingdom too going forward so it would be nice to get a timeline based view of the OP universe.
Wonder if a thread like this exists already?!
Well there does exists a detailed timeline.
new chapter yay.
when i think, wow Rosinante did not clumsy when he get serious and then he when and pull that stunt at the end. why oh why also he showed how the nagi nagi no mi can become handy. that cool stuff.
now about the ope ope no mi. it have the power to modify and restructure. this one fruit i want to eat. its very hax lollollol.
let me assume a little
-it can modify and restructure DNA. made someone become super human both body and mind, have eternal life (like doffy wants)
-it can modify and restructure material at atom level. if this true then the application are beyond awesome.
someone with proper knowledge can do "miracle" indeed.
imagine Vegapunk have this power, he can finish some or all of the blueprint on his homeland. (he cannot finish it because he dont have the money and technology for it).
but that just my assumtion of what the ope ope no mi power capable of. (we dont know the limit yet)
back to chapter
love it all the Rosinante - law interaction especially when Rosinante got pierce by speech bubble, when Law said Baby5 power is better lol.
when i'm thinking that Rosinante is a dead man it's just….......
and a break. &%$%^&^#
I'm pretty sure both panda and MS had staff change recently.
They weren't this bad till just recently, I mean mistakes were made here and there, but I don't think they were this incoherent.From someone's post earlier, Doffy's crew meeting scene was also messed up right?
Yeah, and tons of other stuff. Like, does Sengoku tell Roci to meet Doffy later or to NOT meet him later? Where is the deal taking place? Rubeck, Minion, Swallow?
I've read the tumblr translation, the Panda one and the Stream one, and even with the three of them put togheter there's stuff that's still unclear (even though the tumblr one is clearly the best).
So, yeah, go figure. This is bound to happen every single week from now on.
Lao G more than his brother? Like really?
Likes of Monet / rest of crew seem to be people that would easily give their lives to Mingo so its a bit weird for me.
He's already suspecting Roci of betraying them. That probably affected his decision.
So, maybe with the chaos against Marine, Pirates, etc.
It's possible that Doffy will use the birdcage here? :wassat:
@Light:
He's already suspecting Roci of betraying them. That probably affected his decision.
Wouldn't make sense to give Ope ope to someone he doesn't trust completely. Yeah, he could still torture him to make him use the immportality on him, or threaten to kill someone else. But that seems too complicated.
Use your logic.
If the pirates were buying them from the marines, then why do they already have it 3 days before the trade?It's made blatantly clear from both the text and the scenario.
The marines offered a very large lump of money for it, and the Diez pirates are selling the fruit to them.
I support this post. Use your brains! It just don't make no sense the other direction!
I know it is mistranslation, thanks to your summary Mr.Blue. But but… after CCC stop translating, I put my trust on MS. Making such an obvious mistranslation in high quality scanlation, I've felt betrayed :sad: ...
don't know why would you do that….MS is better than mangapanda of course,but it'bad too,it always was...that's why we needed people like CCC in the first place.ATM seems aohige summary is the only one source we can trust...there's also that guy who translates from chinese scans,but i don't know how good he is
So Dofla's plan was to give the Ope Ope to Rosinante, who would have used it to cure Law's illness (and grant Dofla immortality). But hasn't it been stated that only someone with surgical knowledge can use it effectively? How could have Rosinante performed an operation on Law?
I remember MS translation was a lot worse than MP in at least several chapters of Dressrosa.
Two examples I can think of now is Violet saying she actually borrows the vision of birds to see in the distance and Bastille commenting how Cavendish's body is too weak for him to fight as Hakuba for too long.
Yeah, and tons of other stuff. Like, does Sengoku tell Roci to meet Doffy later or to NOT meet him later? Where is the deal taking place? Rubeck, Minion, Swallow?
I've read the tumblr translation, the Panda one and the Stream one, and even with the three of them put togheter there's stuff that's still unclear (even though the tumblr one is clearly the best).
So, yeah, go figure. This is bound to happen every single week from now on.
seems pretty straightforward to me.we have three islands,minion is where the diez pirates are with the fruit,here is where the trade is gonna take place,and it's surrounded by the marines ATM.in the other two we have corazon in one and doflamingo (supposedly surrounded too) in the other.then rocinante attacks minion to get the fruit.
So Dofla's plan was to give the Ope Ope to Rosinante, who would have used it to cure Law's illness (and grant Dofla immortality). But hasn't it been stated that only someone with surgical knowledge can use it effectively? How could have Rosinante performed an operation on Law?
That part seems a little confusing, true. Maybe Rocinante does have some medical knowledge. He did tend his wound from Law by himself.
Even so, I'm guessing the use of Room allows for a lot of trial and error.
I predict this flashback will last three more chapters: one for Doflamingo's and Corazon's full flashbackception, and two more for the ending of Law's flashback. Then, it go time in the present
So Dofla's plan was to give the Ope Ope to Rosinante, who would have used it to cure Law's illness (and grant Dofla immortality). But hasn't it been stated that only someone with surgical knowledge can use it effectively? How could have Rosinante performed an operation on Law?
dofla doesn't know that.at this point in the timeline,the ope-ope is pretty much a legend,because many and many years have passed since the last user.also you need medical skills to know what you are doing,but roci would probably able to cure law if he explains to him what he needs to do
And no mention of switching personalities.
Making it (even more) unlikely that switching personalities was the key to national treasure.
Have you read the top left panel? He knows that the Ope can give eternal life.
and that ability is part of the legend too…we don't even know now for sure if it really can give immortality.at the time it was just the fruit that would make every operation and modification of the body possible,and roci assumed that said fruit would work at his best on a doctor.also,even if he knew they needed medical skills,he can still give it to corazon and then make him learn medicine...it's not like he is in a hurry to become immortal
Corazon seems pretty sure of what he's talking about. Dofla has probably done his homework on the subject.
Wouldn't be surprised if everything is in the devil fruit encyclopedia. And Doffy seems to be a good reader.