@airy-0:
Did they mention that Ace's pipe was made of steel? If it was, a random noobass pirate who got beaten by a bunch of kids is stronger than Zoro in terms of swordsmanship, that's a bit hard to believe.
Then again, a pipe is not a supa supa no mi Mr. 1
Of course it's a shock wave, shock waves create a disturbance in the particles around it, causing compression in the air…
Implying that using haki is not a technique.
to Beowulf89:
"then there was NO POINT to the flashback with his master"
Why? Because you said so?
"AT NO POINT is he like, "Well you have to awaken the secret spiritual power that all people in the world have in order to do it, Zoro.""
What makes you think that this East Blue swordsman actually knows fully what haki is? Let me remind you that Luffy's crew hadn't even heard of haki until Sabaody.
"You want science?"
Not really, I just want consistence. An egg will never shoot through a brickwall without being damaged. Is this sarcasm that I missed?
I'm pretty sure fingernail is much harder than skin and fat and muscle tissue.
Just a note, multiquote as in = "+ helps in these situations as I'm unsure of what you're quoting, and what you're saying.
The last thing seems like you so I'll reply to that. But you realize shigan isn't nail 1st, it's just the fingers mainly and it's been shown being effective even in human form when their nails weren't sharp claws. At no point has any character made any emphasis on the fact that the whole reason their finger gun works is because of their possibly slightly extended nails.
@Redx:
Maybe he subconsciously used CoO but CoA was not involved in any way shape or form as far as we can tell. Before Mr. 1 Zoro simply lacked the proper technique to cut through steel. CoA doesn't really come into play nor does it even have to for him cutting steel to have been possible.
Agreed.
@gingerninja666:
What about whatever the hell Roger did to read the ponyglyphs despite not being well read.
Willpower lets him bypass years of study, right. -__- Dammit Gol.
Either that or Rayleigh was full of it.
And whatever Rayleigh did to prevent the explosion from Camie yet still remove the bomb.;
What was that haki slowing down time?
@vagabond87:
Zoro did same move in One Piece Movie Z that was made with Oda having an eye on it.
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Hyouzou was praised by Luffy for being pretty strong, he was nr 1 swordsman in fishman island so it would not be so weird if he would be using haki.
Zoros colour that he has most talent in is CoA- as it was said by Oda. So Hyouzou haki being strongly inferior to Zoros ending up as reason for his
sword being torn with one stronger attack should not be so amusing to you, rather simples explanation that there is.
So that attack for me looks like Zoro is bashing enemys sword with his haki infused swords- that ends up shattering Hyouzous blade to pieces.
He did just one move and Hyouzou blades shattered, he didnt cut them to pieces vertically but bashed them strong enough to fall apart.
How beside CoA usage would you explain that ?
If somebody is using CoA on his sword then of course he will break other persons weapon with it if he has superior haki.
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But the same applies to if some1 is just a superior swordsman is the problem I see with what you posit.
Then there's are we really gonna take Luffy's word that literally, when all he saw was Hyouzou being able to block his 1st hit?
And he considered Hody weak, so there's no real gauge, nor importance as to what "pretty strong" even meant in that instance. Not to mention, Hyouzou taking the drugs in the 1st place would seem to no matter how you break it down, indicate he wasn't hiding that much ( like even a little passable use of haki). He just was what he appeared to be: a meager swordsman that also implemented his poison in his sword style.
@airy-0:
Rokushiki just seems to be some martial arts techniques that fully utilizes their superhuman physiques to inflict more damage.
Shigan/flying slash are not haki but slashes with compressed air (the long ranged shigan that is).
A single unifying theory would indeed suck
Can anyone show me an example of a non-haki user cut through steel?? Would greatly appreciate it..
Not sure exactly as I'm not in the mood to look back on the IPad, but wasn't either or both: of his final attack against Hachi in AP, and some attacks on the bounty hunters at Whiskey Peak, didn't he break some of their swords? Or was that more anime created?
@FLCL:
I guess that's a possibility.
And, I'm not gonna lie, I would like if there were a few different forms of haki, just to give greater variety to characters. But if it stays like it is currently, I have no real problem with it.
Hm, about Tekkai, that is true, I never thought about that, but it became completely useless with the introduction of CoA… Although, These are two different abilities; so maybe, we could see some characters using Tekkai + CoA Hardening, to give tremendous boost to their defense?
Like some1 mentioned above, if that's possible that person would probably be much older 40's - 60's and possibly at most
possessing of zoan or paramecia fruit that enhances primarily physically. But doesn't most tekkai prevent, or most people can't use it while moving, ( besides Jabra, of course)?
@Rivaille:
I got 2 questions and a theory for you guys about Zoro and his CoA.
When a person is placed in fights where the mind and body are pushed to the limits, the ability that lies dormant will be awakened suddenly! Training is needed in order for the user to manipulate haki at ease."
I know that you gonna tell me that this definition apply to what happen to Coby but not Zoro and i'll ask you are you sure that Zoro never been in a situation "where the mind and body are pushed to the limits"? If you don't remember look a this:
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Yeah, i think that Zoro awakened his CoA at this time but due to form of the CoA (it doesn't make voice appears in your mind) he was not aware of it.
But wouldn't that mean Luffy learned it pretty much from every really tough battle he's had starting with Crocodile? If that was all it took for Zoro?
