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Well, Franky isn't Oda, and he doesn't know that Luffy will definitely achieve his dream. Plus, Franky isn't a coward, he wouldn't be afraid to die. Building a ship and letting it die is somehow heartless considering Franky's attitude towards ships.
Franky seemed confident enough that the Strawhats would rescue Robin, that he'd burn the Pluton blueprints, blueprints that were entrusted to him to keep and protect (well, maybe not him specifically, but his disciples) by the one person he respects most in the world, his mentor Tom. There's no reason to believe he wouldn't have the same confidence in Luffy that he'll achieve his dream. And who says he'll be letting the ship die, when he's entrusting the ship to the Strawhats, whom I have no doubt will have COMPLETE confidence in.
A self healing ship seems unlikely. And all ships needs repairs and maintaince, there's no shame in it. I mean, a self healing metal or wood is unprecedented. It will probably have heavy armor and powerful weapons and such.
Dude, Franky is a friggin' cyborg! A cyborg! You're telling me a self-healing ship isn't possible?
And by self-healing I don't mean self healing wood or metal, but the presence of tools and machinery (like robotic arms and some such) that automatically repair the ship when it 'senses' damage.
Edit: also, before someone else brings up this point, with the presence of the Klabautermann, which is really just the ship itself, if there's something the ship can't do by itself, like obtain a certain required part, then the Klabautermann can simply tell the other members of the crew what's needed to get the job done.
Plus, doesn't Franky have more shipwright experience then Paulie?
And why did you bring that up? What point does that serve? I never said Paulie would be the one who would be joining, but the Klabautermann (i.e. the ship itself) - more specifically the Going Merry's Klabautermann.
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And why did you bring that up? What point does that serve? I never said Paulie would be the one who would be joining, but the Klabautermann (i.e. the ship itself) - more specifically the Going Merry's Klabautermann.
Well, if you're arguing that Klabauterman will join over Franky or Paulie….
Can Luffy and the others see Klabauterman? I think they want a tangible shipwright.
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Shishou, the only problem I have with your post is that Sanji left Baratie despite having the same kind of role there. While Baratie did not lose people in key positions like Lucci, Kaku, Calipha, Galley La has still only lost 3 people out of hundreds. Plus, they still have Tilestone and Lulu.
However, I do agree that the evidence at this point for Franky joining is much more significant than for Paulie joining; and unless there is some serious character development for Paulie as we near the end of the arc, I just don't see how his joining over Franky could be justified.Sanji still had a dream, and the owner wanted him to go. Everyone there were great chefs, Sanji was just the best. But they all wanted him to achieve his and Zeff's dream of finding All Blue.
His leaving had a good purpose. Not to mention outside Zeff, he was the only strong person on Baratie.
And you got to look at losing 3 people from Galley La as more than just 3. Look at their abilities. They were far more capable than most of Galley La's nameless. Heck, Kaku could quickly fly across the city and inspect a ship. The only way to make up for these powerhouse workers to be replaced, is with multiple skilled people. Franky Family specializes in disassembly of ships. Reverse that, and they are all essentially ship builders.
Paulie has no known dream, or reason to leave. In Baratie, ZEFF was the leader of the restruant. Iceburg isn't the leader of Galley-La, he is the mayor and Paulie is the leader in charge. Iceburg doesn't fix/build ships anymore to our knowledge, thus losing the guy in charge has a big impact on Galley-La. Especially having lost some of it's key people.
People, people, listen. Arguments such as no develpement, no backstory, no attention, and Paulie isn't fighting cp9, ARE BAD ARGUMENTS. Why? Let's review the crew (not counting luffy).
Usopp - backstory? yes. fight important guys? yes developement? yes. Attention? alot
nami - backstory? when she fully joins. Developement? <–. Fighting? yes. Attention? moderate until arlong.
zoro - Backstory? quite a ways away but you get backround info. Developement? yes. fighting? yes. Attention? alot
sanji - Backstory? yes. Developement? yes. Fighting? yes. Attention? Dims after baratie but starts as alot.
Chopper - Backstory? yes. Developement? yes. Fighting? yes. Attention? good amount towards end and stays generally around that much.
Robin - backstory? No. developement? No. Fighting? No. Attention? Less then paulie.
See my point?
edit - Just for the record, I think Frankie will join, but i thought I'd just put that out there.
All of the people who joined though, were pretty foreshadowed and stood out.
Luffy said he wanted Zoro, and went to rescue him. Zoro's dream involves fighting strong swordsmen around the world.
Alot of the Kuro arc, revolved around Usopp. His dream involves becoming a pirate
Sanji was wanted by Luffy, and alot of the Don Krieg arc revolved around him. Also his dream can only be achieved by going out ot sea.
Nami was a temp member, and Luffy wanted her. Then she had an entire arc devoted to her and her past. Plus her dream giving her a reason to join.
Chopper was wanted by Luffy. He had Drum Arc revolving around him, and he fought some of the main villians. His dream was the be best doctor, and he needed to find the herbs to cure all illness or whatever.
Robin had fought against Luffy and such. She showed to have a kind heart, and even saved Luffy's life. She is/was mysterious, and even betrayed Crocodile and tried to kill him. Since she is mysterious, she joined but we never really knew if she would stay. Now she is finally getting the connection, and we know she'll fully join and stay as nakama. She had no one else to go, anyways. Now we know her dream involves searching for the lost history, which needs to be a pirate.
Franky has had his back story. He has fought along side all the Strawhats, and defeated some main villians. He is a genius at the position Luffy is looking to fill on the boat. He is an interesting character, that has alot of comic potential, and fighting potential. Plus a lot of attention has been paid to Franky. He may not have a dream yet, but it will be what makes him finally decide to join the SH. Unless he has to join because he is a wanted criminal.
Paulie has nothing. We know he has a gambling debt, and he is pretty skilled at fighting. He has little comic relief, only his anger at sexy women showing off. And he has only fought lesser enemies and won. And even now, he is tied up and defeated. What could he contribute to the series, and the Strawhats? He is weaker than Nami. All the Strawhats fight, and taking in a weakling who isn't fighting by genius like Usopp and Nami is foolish. He would fill the carpenter position, but Luffy seems to be one who wants to have a crew of the BESTS. Paulie might be good, but he is not a BEST.
Zoro- Best Swordsman
Usopp- Best Sniper/marksman/gunner
Nami- Best Navigator
Chopper- Best Doctor
Sanji- Best Cook
Robin- Best ArcheologistPaulie has shown no signs of being a best carpenter. But Franky is a diciple of the best, Tom. The man who built Gol D. Roger's ship.
Franky- Best Carpenter
Franky- Strawhat level fighter (roughly Zoro/Sanji tier)
Franky- Backstory known, a lot of this arc is revolving around him.
Franky- Is teamed up fighting ALONG SIDE Strawhats. Defeating major villians.I can't think of anyone who could be potential to join the crew and defeat a major villian than not join.
Logically its not possible for Paulie over Franky.
So yes, the arguements of no development, CP9 fighting, and all the rest IS an acceptable arguement. Because in some form, all the SHs have done these types of things.
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Logically its not possible for Paulie over Franky.
I disagree, obviously you havn't looked at colorspread 377 closley
see look it's Pauly. Everyone who thouht Franky was on there should get some contact lenses
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Well, if you're arguing that Klabauterman will join over Franky or Paulie….
Can Luffy and the others see Klabauterman? I think they want a tangible shipwright.
They would be able to see the Klabautermann. Like I stated in my first post, the Klabautermann would be like the ghost member of the crew. It would be akin to something like having "Casper the friendly ghost" on board. They wouldn't be able to touch or feel him, but they'd be able to see and hear him. As for what role the Klabautermann will play in the crew fighting wise - well, since the Klabautermann is really the ship (since it's the spirit of the ship), when the new ship fights other ships, you could say it's also the Klabautermann that's fighting those ships. So in essence the Klabautermann would be handling ship vs. ship battles.
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Paulie has no known dream, or reason to leave. In Baratie, ZEFF was the leader of the restruant. Iceburg isn't the leader of Galley-La, he is the mayor and Paulie is the leader in charge. Iceburg doesn't fix/build ships anymore to our knowledge, thus losing the guy in charge has a big impact on Galley-La. Especially having lost some of it's key people.
I'm pretty sure that Iceburg is the head of Galley La. At the same time he is also the mayor of the city. Take a look at chapter 326, where Iceburg is introduced. It says "Water Seven Mayor & Galley La Company President." If I remember correctly, Paulie was the head of Dock #1, and there are something like 7 docks, with people like Lucci, Lulu, etc. being the heads of the other docks.
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Zoro- Best Swordsman
Usopp- Best Sniper/marksman/gunner
Nami- Best Navigator
Chopper- Best Doctor
Sanji- Best Cook
Robin- Best ArcheologistNot true, Zoro isn't the best swordsman yet, Usopp sure is good at sniping, but far far from the best, and I'm pretty sure Dr. Kurerha is a better doctor than Chopper, and same with Zeff and Sanji.
And people seem to forget that Paulie is the diciple of Iceburg who is atleast on equal skill level as Franky, if not higher, at least in the backstory he seemed better, and what have Franky done the last year? Just dismantling and fightning.
And about the fightning style, now sure, Luffy can imitate Paulies fightning style, BUT he doesn't! We rarely see Luffy grabbing people from a far distant and throws them around (the only I can think of is that big cow in arlong arc), he seem to prefer to just punch the shit outa them instead. And Gomu gomu pistol/storm is not like the knot attack Paulie has, Paulie attack with all the knoths at the same time, while Luffy just punches really fast, And Paulie uses his ropes more like wip than a punch.
About Franky, Frankys strongt right, is exactly the same as Gomu Gomu pistol, only difference is that Strongt Right is Iron and GOmu GOmu pistol is rubber, and Frankys Strong Hammer is just a strong punch attack, nothing special, he doesn't even do any special movement other than taking his skin off.
And when we come to his ranged attacks, most of them seems to be ripoffs by Usopp and Nami, Franky has fire, so does Usopp, Franky spits nails, kinda lika Usopps cactus star/shuriken stars, Franky has Weapon Left, kinda like Gunpowder stars, franky has Coup De Vent, kinda like Namis tornado attack, both shoots air.
But don't get me wrong, I love Franky at equal level as Paulie now, I think Franky will probably join but im not 100% at it, and it would be a big loss for Paulie not to join since he has cool design, and a really orgininal Fightning Style, and it seems pretty unlimited too, But for Franky he's fightning style seems to be more limited.
Damnit, I want both of them to join. >.<Sorry for all typos, im too lazy to check it through.
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I'm pretty sure that Iceburg is the head of Galley La. At the same time he is also the mayor of the city. Take a look at chapter 326, where Iceburg is introduced. It says "Water Seven Mayor & Galley La Company President." If I remember correctly, Paulie was the head of Dock #1, and there are something like 7 docks, with people like Lucci, Lulu, etc. being the heads of the other docks.
President maybe, but he isn't down there building ships. I mean if some other guy owned Baratie, or owned a Baratie chain of restruants, but Zeff was in charge of that one…. Zeff would be who you consider in charge, not the guy who owns the chain, right?
And was it confirmed Lucci and such were heads of the other Docks? I thought they were all Dock 1 which was the main dock?
Not true, Zoro isn't the best swordsman yet, Usopp sure is good at sniping, but far far from the best, and I'm pretty sure Dr. Kurerha is a better doctor than Chopper, and same with Zeff and Sanji.
And people seem to forget that Paulie is the diciple of Iceburg who is atleast on equal skill level as Franky, if not higher, at least in the backstory he seemed better, and what have Franky done the last year? Just dismantling and fightning.
They aren't the best yet, but that is the way they are going and their goals. Zoro's goal is to be the best swordsman and by the end he will achieve it. Usopp's father is probably one of the best snipers in the world and he may have more potential. Usopp really never misses a mark, he shot that jewel out of the compass thing. Chopper will improve as well, and in the end be the best. Sanji is just getting better all the time, eventually he will surpass Zeff I am sure. Actually, Sanji may have been better while still working at Baratie…
Paulie is a diciple of Iceburg. So more or less, he probably isn't on par with Iceburg yet. Iceburg was good, but by all means I think Franky was better and more natural of a carpenter. With out any known training, Franky could make cannons and such out of junk. So lets see Franky and Iceburg are roughly the same skill level at making ships. Franky is still better at making battle ships and weaponry.
Franky gave up building ships, because they were used to frame Tom. He has been doing the opposite of building, and that is dismantling. Because he feels guilty, and ashamed of what he made. But Franky still has not realized how much Tom loved ships, and that he never blamed Franky for making those ships. Once Franky realizes that Tom was probably proud of Franky for making all those Battle Frankies, he will want to make ships again. Even better ships.
Paulie is directly connected to Iceburg. But Franky is directly connected to Tom who made Gol D. Roger's ship. Paulie didn't really know Tom, and was not raised by him. Franky loved Tom, he was like a father to him. Tom spared Franky and Iceburg by taking the blame for his ship, and in front of Franky said he took pride in making that ship. Franky I believe will follow those same footsteps making the next ship, and joining the SHs as the carpenter for it. Heck maybe he makes a ship but wants to improve it as they travel.
Fact is, Franky HAS to leave Water 7 and be on the move from the world government. Franky Family and Galley La most likely will be overlooked, or just thought to be Strawhats. So they can go back to normal life, while SH get all the blame, and the main ones will be targetted.
Paulie can go back to his old life, Franky can not.
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Yeah, I'm definately saying Franky on this one. ^^'
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for people saying that FF is an obstacle, have you thought about the mugiwara aquiring Franky via a Davy Back Fight?
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well, I want to happent is for them both to join :happy:
but what i think going to happen is that only Franky will join D:
but i wuv paulie emocry and whining ….
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Wow Shisou, I can't imagine how someone would argue with those posts. But of course, someone will.
Also, I'd like to add that Franky's flashback may actually provide motivation for him to leave his Franky Family. Maybe, after finding out that his dream is to build a dreamship and his past with Tom, Franky and the family get all teary-eyed, and the family tells Franky to leave to forfil his dream. Something like that.
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Wow Shisou, I can't imagine how someone would argue with those posts. But of course, someone will.
Also, I'd like to add that Franky's flashback may actually provide motivation for him to leave his Franky Family. Maybe, after finding out that his dream is to build a dreamship and his past with Tom, Franky and the family get all teary-eyed, and the family tells Franky to leave to forfil his dream. Something like that.
hmm…..i'm agree....i think Franky will join.....but we don't know what Oda-sensei think........let's see what'll happen......omoshiroi......
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I didn't just mean your first post, I meant the entire thing. I realize that you know your first point is faulty now, but I'm talking about your entire arguement that's been going on for around 5 or 6 pages now.
Well okay then and I admit I did had many holes in my argument. Especially the first one. It was just on my mind at that time and I wanted to get it down here before I forgot about it. If I would have thought of it more then I probably would have made a better first argument in this debate.
Well… If you were paying attention, only one person was really rude to you right away. I'm looking through the posts right now and most of them backed up their points well and handled it as I'd expect in a polite debate.
While I think that retard thing is a bit uncalled for, you did start to look like a troll and Franky basher.True but the thing is that I wasn't trying to be a troll or a Franky basher. It's more like I was losing focus from my argument because I was getting pissed off at those rude comments.
Besides if I were being a troll and a Franky basher I would have come in here and out right only said "Paulie Rules, Franky Sucks lolz lewsers!!11" or some other such troll-ish comment in which I wouldn't even have an argument. Whereas at that time I was trying to defend the flimsy argument I already made and was also trying to improve upon the things that were wrong with it so it would be a lot better.
I'll get to the rest of the point later with one of your other ones… But I agree here. I think that Franky has a much higher chance of joining, but I think that Paulie's going to at least get or be involved in a cover story.
All I'm saying that if Franky WERE the one to join the Straw Hats. Even if he is the most possible one at this point. Why wasn't Paulie's character established? Why no past? no dream? no anything? It's not like Oda to make a likable character like Paulie then just throw him away like what happened with the rest of Galley La and the Franky Family. Also there has to be a reason why people even considered him a candidate for Straw Hat-dom in the first place over the other members of Galley La up CP9 was revealed.
Considering there's so much about Paulie that's been left un-explained whereas everything about Franky has essentially been answered already and there's a chance he'll fulfill his dream at the end of this arc when he builds the Straw Hat's new ship. I can't see why they would take Franky with them instead of Paulie. There's no mystery left, no developoment that Franky could gain that he hasn't already gotten from this arc.
Remember what I just said about you making the same point several times? I might not have made it clear enough, but I meant that I was already fully aware of your opinion on it.
What I meant is this:
That's one of the more detailed examples of what I meant. Somebody listed out specifically just about every technique that Franky has shown up to this point (not counting stuff like "wears a speedo", I don't think that was meant as something serious) and you completely ignored it.
I cannot say that I actually know why you did, but currently it looks to me like you ignored it so that you can pretend your point was not actually disproved.Now, If you dig deep enough, it's true that you can find similarities to strawhat techniques for most of them.
But…
You can just as easily do that for Paulie as you can for Franky, no matter how original the idea is. Even his knife attack. If you look far enough (read, too far) in to the issue, then Robin can imitate it with a lot of knives.
I'm not ignoring it. I'm just standing by MY view on it. Because in MY view Franky's attacks are just variations on stuff that's already been done by other Straw Hat members. Even if Franky's style is original and unique to him that doesn't really excuse that fact to me. Since as I've said before when do we see someone on the straw hat crew fight with ropes?
And it's not that I'm repeating myself either. I think what you keep missing is that I have the impression that the straw hat's don't need another person who can transform, shoot things, and punch really hard because as I said it's already done better by other straw hat members. Which is a reason I said that Bon Clay was "sacrificed" for the same reason. His style was too much like Sanji's.
Well, you have paid attention more than I thought here, I'll give you that. But there are still more points than the ones you listed here.
I don't think everybody was intending to argue that stuff as definate proof that he has to join no matter what, but I think they meant (and I agree) that it definately points things in his favor.
You've brought up some things about Paulie too, but most of those are the kind of thing that could apply for both Paulie and Franky depending on how Oda does it, so I don't think arguing those points either way works very well.
Also, keep in mind something else. It's true that he pulled a surprise with Robin and Vivi. But to this date it's the only time he's done it. He certainly could do that again, but more often than not he made it pretty obvious who is joining in each character arc.
True but I see no reason why he couldn't pull it again. I mean come on the remainder of Galley La and the Franky family are ALSO fighting the world government what makes them immune yet Franky suddenly ISN'T?
That to me doesn't make any sense.
Not to mention people forget that the world government tried to KILL Iceberg. I can't see why they'd be happy to leave Iceberg, the Franky Family, and Galley La alone after all this.
Perhaps by some amazing coincidence, a lot of the points that you ignore are the ones that either prove your point wrong, or are the hardest for you to work around.
Probably the hardest for me to work around.
You occasionally accept that your point is wrong. But again pretty much every one of those times you try to word it to make yourself sound like the victim here and you continued to argue some of them, even after you claimed you realized their faults.
Whether they are arguing in a mature manner or not, I have yet to see reason to believe that you are.
Who said I was trying to make myself look like the victim? I don't feel like the victim. More like I felt pissed off at them.
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Franky's 99.9% in. Just like people said, those color spreads prove he's a SH next (simple minded answer, but I have a child-like way of thinking sometimes).
Plus, he can make music. Making Luffy very happy then :) (okay not much of a point XP)
Franky had something screw-up his life. All the other SH had something screw-up their life (i think its one of the biggest things they have in common) If we go by pattern, then he fits perfectly!
He's a Cyborg. With blue hair. And cool-looking star tatoos. Perfect fit with all the unique people on the ship (which also looked wierd MaySheRestInPeace)
He Interacted with a lot of them (Sanji-Usopp-Chopper-Nami-Robin) one on one. Oda is making people see Franky with each of the SH (its like a welcoming i think :O there is something up with that but i can't put my finger on it- however, i know that its pro mugiwara Franky XD if someone knows what it is please say, i'm not so good at voicing ideas X_x maybe a post i missed…)
I'm currently taking an animation class and my teacher taught basic story telling. You dont give a character that much time if he's not going to be of later use (exceptions are there however, but i think Oda's following the dont-make-characters-too-awesome-people-hate-you-when-they-leave one)
Franky's LOUD! even his taste in clothes:D just think, after this, we get a quite little archeologist (sp?) and a big loud cyborg! how cool is that! the past and the future, all at once! (yeah, i'm bullsh!ting now:X)
btw, that doesnt mean that I think Paulie cant join :P i wish both of them would! and who said if one of them does the other's out?
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Ok. Sometimes I think people just ignore my posts. And just ignore WIPER AND ROBIN . Anyway I was waiting for someone to make this point, but alas…no one did.
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Can I vote for Hattori? I dislike Franky more the longer I see him (he's too over the top even for the Mugiwara), and Paulie just didn't get the character growth. Hattori at least has the cute mascoty thing we narrowly escaped with Chopper.
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Hey everybody. how's it going? Long time lurker first time poster here. registered cause I felt like I had to say something about this franky vs paulie thingy. So anyway I always sort of felt like the sensei would completely surprise us and pull a robin on everyone. I don't know why. just a gut feeling. Plus like isn't frankys dream to build a ship of dreams that can travel to the ends of the earth with pride and ease or something like that? Which kind of got me thinking. What if the new ship doesn't need a carpenter at all? cause you know it's gotta be some super badass ship you know what i'm saying? And like since franky wants to build a ship like that. you know that can sail to the end of the world with ease and pride. if it needs a carpenter to fix it it sort of means it fails right? Yeah that's why I think the sensei's gonna suprise us and have no one join. Yeah I think that would suck if no one joins but it might happen. Hey heres an idea what if the sensei does a mind fuck on everyone and have instead of a carpenter someone new like a musician or something join? That might be kinda cool.
P.S. Anyone know why I can't vote in the poll?
the poll was imported over from the old board, so no one new could vote. i actually can't even remember if i got to vote or not :o(
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People, people, listen. Arguments such as no develpement, no backstory, no attention, and Paulie isn't fighting cp9, ARE BAD ARGUMENTS. Why? Let's review the crew (not counting luffy).
Usopp - backstory? yes. fight important guys? yes developement? yes. Attention? alot
nami - backstory? when she fully joins. Developement? <–. Fighting? yes. Attention? moderate until arlong.
zoro - Backstory? quite a ways away but you get backround info. Developement? yes. fighting? yes. Attention? alot
sanji - Backstory? yes. Developement? yes. Fighting? yes. Attention? Dims after baratie but starts as alot.
Chopper - Backstory? yes. Developement? yes. Fighting? yes. Attention? good amount towards end and stays generally around that much.
Robin - backstory? No. developement? No. Fighting? No. Attention? Less then paulie.
See my point?
edit - Just for the record, I think Frankie will join, but i thought I'd just put that out there.
Well, to be fair, Robin was supposed to be a huge surprise, and their really wasn't anyone else who looked like they were going to join (except maybe bon clay?). I mean Franky is going through the standard main character introduction process found in any manga.
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Well Paulie just left the island with Zambai and them, so that's him completely ruled out now!!!
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Well, not necessarily. I think everyone will eventually need to go back to Water 7, and the shipwright probably won't be revealed until they're about to leave.
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Eh anyone else hope that Paulie and Franky both join so everyone stops arguing? ~_~
And then they could free Bon Clay… and Kaku could join zzz
Strongest to weakest in Mugiwara: Everyone else > Going Merry > Tangerine Tree > Luffy's seat > Rats > Usopp
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Eh anyone else hope that Paulie and Franky both join so everyone stops arguing? ~_~
And then they could free Bon Clay… and Kaku could join zzz
i don't beleive there is a 'zzz' pirate crew in one piece
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i don't beleive there is a 'zzz' pirate crew in one piece
It's like a suffix to a sentence.
Strongest to weakest in Mugiwara: Everyone else > Going Merry > Tangerine Tree > Luffy's seat > Rats > Usopp
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I don't know… I'm starting to go on the Franky wagon too after 413. I'd just think it'd be weird for Oda to throw away Paulie's character like that without the proper development he gives all his characters but ah wel... not that I had a problem if Franky was the one who was going to join and if they have to leave and don't have time to go back to Water 7 it does give Franky an excuse to leave his nakama behind.
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Well Paulie just left the island with Zambai and them, so that's him completely ruled out now!!!
No… They merely walked away from the seatrain. They still are in querry of the whereabouts of Franky and Luffy. I doubt they are ready to sail yet. Plus Paulie having been the only one who wasn't actually tied up... still keeps him in the pool of being one step above the nobodies.
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No… They merely walked away from the seatrain. They still are in querry of the whereabouts of Franky and Luffy. I doubt they are ready to sail yet. Plus Paulie having been the only one who wasn't actually tied up... still keeps him in the pool of being one step above the nobodies.
unless i read it wrong, Paulie says "what about the mugiwara and franky" and then Zambai replies "they'll be fine, they're invincible" which indicates they're leaving them behind but they know they'll be safe.
@chapter414:
Franky Family 1: No wonder you looked so calm, you were pretending that you were tied up!!
Pauli: I was waiting for the right timing
Franky Family 2: Where’s Franky Bro and Mugiwara-san?
Franky Family 3: Those 2 are invincible, they’re not the kind of people who would make us worried
Everybody: Hurry!!! We’re gonna evacuate from the Island!!!
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Paulie is cool, but after 400 chapters you start to figure out how Odas formula works, and I think Paulie is being presented as a side character. Franky seems to be the obvious character being built up as the next Straw Hat following the formula (due to all the reasons listed), and until its decided for sure thats all we really have to go on. Not only that, but Paulie is not really being built up at all, and is kind of just being shoved into the background. So far there has been nothing to indicate that he would join, even if Franky doesn't. So I think either Franky will join, no one will join, or Oda will have someone join none of us are expecting and it will be completely out of the blue. So far though I'd put my money on Franky joining, simply because it has been obvious that every Staw Hat was joining except Robin, and even then there where lots of signs that there was more to her character than she was letting on. With Paulie, theres nothing.
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hmmm bon clay?
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If you want the undoubtable prove who the next member will be look at this:
If you look close you will see that this guy luffy drew, looks similiar to Franky.
PS.: sorry if that was brought up already but i didn't bother to read all the pages :P
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Luffy's artistic skills are undeniable :P
Strongest to weakest in Mugiwara: Everyone else > Going Merry > Tangerine Tree > Luffy's seat > Rats > Usopp
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its gonna be franky.
they get back to water 7, franky unveils something(at least the blueprints and parts) to protect water 7 from the aqua laguna. he got the parts with the money he stole from the mugiwaras. Iceburg puts his plan into action. franky does this to protect the city tom gave hope too. Franky joins the mugiwaras to pay off his debt to them and to find the other pluton and destroy it,(his goal) or something with it. he leaves that one guy in charge of the franky family and tyhey have a tearful departure from water 7.
thats my theory at least.
franky is way too cool of a character to see only once. paulie is…..forgettable.
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The guy that Luffy drew looks more like Mr. 3 hahah.. In fact, it looks ALOT like Mr. 3
They should free Bon Clay and get Franky at the same time.. And Paulie could umm chill with Iceburg. I don't see him getting along with Nami and Robin very well..
Strongest to weakest in Mugiwara: Everyone else > Going Merry > Tangerine Tree > Luffy's seat > Rats > Usopp
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The guy that Luffy drew looks more like Mr. 3 hahah.. In fact, it looks ALOT like Mr. 3
Yeah, I always had a slight suspicion, but now I am 100% sure that Mr. 3 is gonna be the guy who joins…. Hey! Why the hell isn't he a choice on the poll?
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Just so I'm sure that I wrote it. If not Chimney then I am definetly going with Paulie.
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The thing about Franky and Paulie is that… Their name is sooo common.
While each of the 7 Strawhat crew got a quite unique name- Monkey D Luffy... oh well, not many guys called Luffy, do you know one?
- Roronoa Zoro... while there were one L'Ollonois and a masked man nicked Zorro, no one really named Zorro.
- Nami... Some people called Nami, but still a unique name.
- Usopp... referenced to Yoseph or Aesop but different.
- Sanji... None.
- Toniitonii Chopper... None.
- Nico Robin... No one with that combination yet.
So if Franky changed to Cutty Flam, there might be possibility.
Luffy's drawing has blue hair in the anime, but Franky is not 5 m high.Actually Franky is not a fugitive anymore coz the battleship plan has been burned, and only CP9 which is on the verge of extinction knows about his matters, so he only has to make sure that robin is save, then he can come back to w7.
That's why Kaku has plus points: 5 m high, and has unique name.
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Wakatake Monogatari +Complicated Simplicity+
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I didn't know anyone still supported Kaku.
And there are Indian people named Sanji.
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Ok here is whats going to happen with Mr. 3 and all:
There going to go down to Impel Down and this is what's gonna happen:
Crocodile: Yo luffy bro let me out! I wanna kick some Navy arse!
Luffy: Who are you?
Mr. 2: Nakamaaaaaaa
Nico Robin: I hate you Crocodile. No way we're letting him out!
Mr. 3: Hey, he tried to kill me too! We have so much in common Robin!
Nico Robin: Your right!
Mr. 2: Okamaaaaa Tempooooo
Luffy: Can we let this guy out? He seems strong and I don't know him
Zoro: Such an idiot..
Luffy frees
Mr. 1: I like it in here.. But now to go be a bounty hunter! Screw you Crocodile!
Franky: This is all cute but we should get going before I RUN OUT OF COLA!!
Mr. 2: I'm coming to go spinnin!
Franky: Damn, that @#$#@ Aokiji blew up my ship!
Mr. 3: Don't worry! I am master shipwright! Fear my wax ship the Flying Earwax!
Mr. 2: Spinnin
Crocodile: Thanks for freeing me, I'm just going to go blow up some navy. See ya straw hat!
Mr. 3: Let's go on the Flying Earwax!
Franky: Hey let me come!
Mr. 2: Spinnnnnnin
Luffy: Weeeeee
Nami: Luffy where have you been?
Chopper: X_X
Sanji: Let's go!
Crocodile: Adios
Luffy: See ya later alligator!
Mr. 3: Quick everyone get on!
Luffy: Uh oh where's Sogeking?
Nami: Usoppppp!!!!Crocodile: Hi there little man
Usopp: Ahhhhh faints
Crocodile: Hey Luffy thanks! You forget one of your crewmen! throws Usopp
Luffy yelling: Thank you alligatorrrrrr
Mr. 2: Spinnninnnnnn Okamaaaaaa
Mr. 3: rawrTHE END
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I hope we get at least one CP9. There's so much potential:
Lucci could be the shoot-first-ask-questions-never type. Or Luffy could take Hattori, because all pirates have parrots.
Kaku's weridness has now made him too hilarious not to join. PASTA MACHINE!
Califa, well, we know Oda and fanservice, don't we?
Kumadori, I just want to see him in a social aspect with the crew so someone can clock him one and tell him to shut up about his dead mother. I can also see him teaching Life Return techniques to Zoro to enhance his fighting skills.
Blueno would be an excellent spy, we need a spy.
Fukoru, he has to have some sort of bizarre talent beyond Geppou, and it would be funny to see,
Really, the only one I wouldn't want is Jyabura because he makes an ugly wolf and one devoid of true, Mugiwara-class bizarreness. Unless in the closing chapters of Enies Lobby, Robin suddenly shouts "Yo, Brotha!"
I could even see picking up Spandam for a single chapter, or a title-page sort of thing. "Start at chore boy, and eventually you can have a career as captain!" I want to see some sort of "new career for Spandam" now.
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We (I) want more fanservice, and someone to clean the new ship when it comes. do i have to make a drawing? xD
Seriously that would be fun.. but I still think that Franky's gonna join.. caus he can't go the other way (Nami said so they are not going toward the BC) so he has to go the only way that is left: escape with the strawhat.. Maybe he wont join because Luffy asks so, but because he HAS to if he wanna stay alive ^.^ -
Guys, it's not even a question anymore. Franky's joining, end of. The evidence outweighs Paulie by a hundred fold.
Eh, but fans will be fans…
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Kaku would be such a good crew-member. It's a shame that the best Kaku fans can hope for is a cover page mini-story. Which just wouldn't do him justice.
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Franky is obvously the new crewmate, for all the listed reasons that really don't need to be repeated. I hadn't noticed Luffy's drawing before but now that I see it, large arms, weird nose, angled eyes, hair sticking up, not much clothing except for around his mid region, quite tall. It's Franky all right (even if he's not exactly 5 meters)
However, for the sake of discussion, has anyone mentioned anyone other than CP9 or Paulie?
I've personally grown attached to Lulu and Tilestone just as much as Paulie, those 3 are fun. (Hopefully there'll be a mini-arc about Galley La in the future)
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However, for the sake of discussion, has anyone mentioned anyone other than CP9 or Paulie?
Well, someone made a long argument for the Klabautermann joining 3 or 4 pages back. I think it's a pretty plausible theory.
Since I'm not much of a Franky fan myself, I guess I'm kind of hoping that the Klabautermann or someone else joins instead of Franky…
