this is very very plausible.
cora san
the good side of Mingo?
donquixote corazon hehehe
this is very very plausible.
cora san
the good side of Mingo?
donquixote corazon hehehe
@MDL:
Could Law be wearing Cora's earrings?
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That pic makes it even easier for me to think that it is Corazon we saw in ch0 and not Doffy as we thought
My bad, mangapanda's translation only says "Doflamingo's real brother" but mangastream confirms its his younger brother.
They can still be twins (fraternal though) though, with Doffy being born first. Corazon could have been a short time after is enough to qualify as younger brother. … and if they are twins and if that is Corazon in ch0 (looks like the Law's flashback) then they are not identical but fraternal.
While its more likely that there are 1 or more years difference in the brothers, I' would like it if they are (Fraternal) twins. I mean OP only has a what like 1-2 pairs of named twins the identical bros in the Rumbar Pirates, then there is one set where one brother is a pirate and the other is a marine. (sorry can't remember their names, )
While its more likely that there are 1 or more years difference in the brothers, I' would like it if they are (Fraternal) twins. I mean OP only has a what like 1-2 pairs of named twins the identical bros in the Rumbar Pirates, then there is one set where one brother is a pirate and the other is a marine. (sorry can't remember their names, )
You forgot the Square Sisters and Hotori and Kotori (maybe Satori too).
http://i.imgur.com/8ddBa6r.png
Best panel of the chapter. XD
Totally agreed. I still can't stop laughing xD
I want bepo to come back and save the day!! where is my kungfu bear oda????
That pic makes it even easier for me to think that it is Corazon we saw in ch0 and not Doffy as we thought
They can still be twins (fraternal though) though, with Doffy being born first. Corazon could have been a short time after is enough to qualify as younger brother. … and if they are twins and if that is Corazon in ch0 (looks like the Law's flashback) then they are not identical but fraternal.
While its more likely that there are 1 or more years difference in the brothers, I' would like it if they are (Fraternal) twins. I mean OP only has a what like 1-2 pairs of named twins the identical bros in the Rumbar Pirates, then there is one set where one brother is a pirate and the other is a marine. (sorry can't remember their names, )
He was in his early 20's back then and that is merely a side view of him, that doesn't prove it isn't him.
I'd always wondered why Doffy gave up those awesome goggles that he was wearing in chapter 0.
It's because it wasn't Doffy at all! It was Corry!
@dwo:
Thats the only thing I dont like. The last fight with Vergo didnt end, which is like a loss. Sanji should be very very close to Zoros level imo.
Sanji will get a very important bounty… NEVER! EVER! UNDERESTIMATE SANJI! He's definetly going to CRUSH anyone who stands in his way...
He's actually savin' Sunny go/rest of the crewmates from big mum's ship! And he will absolutely bring Law's nakamas to DRESROSA and a lot of secrets/revelations.
Maybe Corazon is still living @ zoo under very hard circumstances...
omg mangastream:
abdullah: i'm abdullah
luffy: do you even speak english??
Zoros bloodthirsty face and his soprano line was the highlight.
Finally zoro is gonna go ham after such a looooooong time.
Also Luffys Grizzly magnum Comming out of nowhere with almost 0 prep-time
and no drawbacks(chibi luffy) raise my hope that he may even be stronger than we thought.
Jeet and Abdulah made me laugh sooooo hard. Like some1 said, it was by far the pest pannel.
Friggin sweet chapter
He was in his early 20's back then and that is merely a side view of him, that doesn't prove it isn't him.
Actually, late 10's.
And there's no question that the facial features were different. It's not conclusive evidence, but it's pretty suspicious.
Seriously, screw Corazan or whatshisname; this is a shonen manga, not a bleeping soap opera. Give us some solid fighting already.
Good action chapter again, all of the action panels looked really nice and the panel with Luffy and Abdulah and Jeet was funny. Much of it was pretty self-explanatory, really.
I just hope that whatever flashback we'll be getting won't take away any of Doffy's glory. His alleged appearance in chapter 0 was only one of the reasons his character seemed so very mysterious and intriguing. And now we're talking about the possibility of that person not even being Doffy. I don't want to see some cliched crap of Doffy being the evil big brother who killed the younger one because he was the better captain/better person/true leader. You know, some standard reason. It's only a feeling right now, but a fairly unpleasant one.
I do wonder what justified Orlumbus and Ideo having their own attack panels and suleiman for example not getting one, questionable focus, but hey at least the art is good as always and I'll always like these 'try to figure out this giant enemy' type of battle - oars against the strawhats was fantastic
Also really liking what Oda does with Abdullah and Jeet, didn't except these two out of all the gladiators to be this enjoyable
I do wonder what justified Orlumbus and Ideo having their own attack panels and suleiman for example not getting one, questionable focus, but hey at least the art is good as always and I'll always like these 'try to figure out this giant enemy' type of battle - oars against the strawhats was fantastic
Also really liking what Oda does with Abdullah and Jeet, didn't except these two out of all the gladiators to be this enjoyable
i think they will end up fighting the low tier DD family members hopefully its Baby 5 and Gladius
it seems to me that Doflamingo has literally killed everyone of his blood relatives
@Mex:
My opinion why Peeka is not fighting in stone giant form:
- He is much slower than his enemies in giant form. That is why they climbed his arm so easily.
- His giant arm and head were destroyed in few seconds and were useless, he just crushed the city and maybe killed hundreds of innocent citizens.
- As Law explains in this arc, using DF powers consume energy. Peeka is saving energy for close quarters or maybe wasted most of his energy for his giant and the city reorganization.
- We do not know if that giant form is the best skill Peeka has, maybe he is saving energy for something better.
- Peeka will create stairs under Zoro killing him. (LOL)
He can probably control the giant while he's fighting. Swordsmanshipwise, he can't possibly beat Zoro, so he will probably have no other choice. I'm expecting a fight in the style of when you meet Chronos in God Of War 3.
On a related note: how many people are better swordsmen than Zoro at this rate? Mihawk is a given, but how many possible contenders can he still have?
I'd vote
Rayleigh
Vista
Fujitora
Did I miss anyone?
I do wonder what justified Orlumbus and Ideo having their own attack panels and suleiman for example not getting one, questionable focus, but hey at least the art is good as always and I'll always like these 'try to figure out this giant enemy' type of battle - oars against the strawhats was fantastic
Also really liking what Oda does with Abdullah and Jeet, didn't except these two out of all the gladiators to be this enjoyable
Suleiman got way more panel time than Orlumbus during D-Block, fighting Rebecca and all. Ideo was essentially ignored.
@Monkey:
i think they will end up fighting the low tier DD family members hopefully its Baby 5 and Gladius
it seems to me that Doflamingo has literally killed everyone of his blood relatives
They probably won't fight anybody important. They have nothing special to show to justify taking out an officer (except Cavendish with Hakuba and Chinjao with his new pointy head).
So Corazons symbol was the very same face that Doflamingo had crossed out as his own symbol now.
This means that Doflamingo most probably killed his own brother who imo by 99% was a world known doctor- his smiled face symbol on Whitebeards meds.
That means that Doflamingo is probably responsible for slowly poisoning Whitebeard, that he is true reason of Whitebeard sickness- he taken his brother med producing companion as his own business imo.
It would be perfect explanation for Whitebeard sickness and it would explain why Marines decided to take on Whitebeard- probably Doflamingo was working against Whitebeard and he helped World Goverment.Thats my view on it, sounds very possible.
Indeed vagabond for once you make a lot of sense with ur prediction, im behind that (just kidding don't go on a rampage)
I just hope that whatever flashback we'll be getting won't take away any of Doffy's glory. His alleged appearance in chapter 0 was only one of the reasons his character seemed so very mysterious and intriguing. And now we're talking about the possibility of that person not even being Doffy. I don't want to see some cliched crap of Doffy being the evil big brother who killed the younger one because he was the better captain/better person/true leader. You know, some standard reason. It's only a feeling right now, but a fairly unpleasant one.
Same. I'd also be really disappointed if Corazon looked that similar to Doflamingo.
also wasn't expecting Zoro and Pica to battle again, but….meh, hopefully it'll be entertaining. Still a pretty fun chapter with the gladiators kicking ass.
omg mangastream:
abdullah: i'm abdullah
luffy: do you even speak english??
Really? When I think their translations can't be worse, they outdo themselves.
Last bit of infos, Law was 13 when Corazon was killed, and Dofla was 28.
Dofla lost his mother when he was 8, so Corazon couldn't have been older than 20 years old when he was killed.
Wouldn't this make Corazon at least 20 when he died? He can't be any younger since his mother was dead. So he was anywhere between the ages of 20-27 13 years ago.
@Darth about the whole Pica is being stupid debate/discussion
We all have time to analyse the whole situation as everything is on paper. Fights in One Piece (when it comes to discussions at least,) are all Theory vs. Practise.
In Theory Pica should've stated in Rock form and bla bla bla
In Practise (as things are happening) its am entirely different situation. Everything is moving fast and there are things out of your control. Pica has to react and fight not only Luffy and Zoro but the whole Debt Repay Alliance. He thought it was easier/better to attack with his right before remaking his left arm (leading Luffy & co to climb his right arm). As a giant, its clearer to see just what exactly he'll do and all the normal people have that advantage and can counter.
Pica goes for a hit with his new left again and Luffy blew his head off so instead of re-growing it he and being a massive target again, he decides to use his human form to do a close combat attack.
In practise its all about reacting fast to your situations. In theory there are a million things he could've done. Like instead of becoming a giant target, he could've buried all of them outright. But then the game would be over.
Anyway, the fight has only still just begun. He still has all that rock/earth all around him. He can use it whenever
So Corason is younger than Doflamingo for sure?
Considering he had regrown his hand in seconds… Hell, why not simply make his own hand crumble, and then regrow it, thus not allowing Straw Hats and Co. to grab a foothold on him?
I think i've never seen someone that nit picks as much as you do. I don't like it.
Do you like one piece or do you try very hard to like it? It's weird how you never look like ur enjoying it, must be awful to be you.
![](file:///C:/Users/user/Pictures/Doflamingo_at_Age_Seventeen.png)
If he's Dofla's younger brother he can't be born after Dofla's mother died.
Dofla is 41 now, Roger died 24 years ago, so Dofla was 17 in chapter 0.
Corazon obviously was born between Dofla and the mother's death, spanning 8 years.
Probably Corazon was the reason of Mrs Doflamingo's death.
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You're right, I wrote a mess there lol
Wasn't clear at all.
Still it seems really out of question a 16 year old guy already moved to be a pirate, as the average age people sailed at 17 in OP.
Lol I think u might wanna stop there dude hahahaha
this is the picture from chapter 0. Here donflamingo is the same with the mysterious corason
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Shiliew, and whoever is the swordsmen for Kaido and Big Mom.
Yeah, Shiliew is a possibility, though I think It's possible Zoro beats him now as well. But I'm reserving judgement.
I think i've never seen someone that nit picks as much as you do. I don't like it.
Do you like one piece or do you try very hard to like it? It's weird how you never look like ur enjoying it, must be awful to be you.
No, I'm simply not vocal about things I do enjoy.
I find singing praises to be boring.
As simple as that.
Mind you, if I would point out similar incosistencies in Bleach or Naruto, people would have nothing but praise for me.
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That said, approximetly from the reveal of Sabo and him eating Mera Mera, I do find myself enjoying chapters of One Piece significantly less. I can name several manga I have enjoyed more in the last few weeks, and that usually wasn't the case.
No, I'm simply not vocal about things I do enjoy.
I find singing praises to be boring.
As simple as that.
Mind you, if I would point out similar incosistencies in Bleach or Naruto, people would have nothing but praise for me.
I didn't see any inconsistence on Pica's actions.
He tried to use stone, but failed. He's now taking action with his own body (that doesn't mean he can't use his ability anymore).
Considering he had regrown his hand in seconds… Hell, why not simply make his own hand crumble, and then regrow it, thus not allowing Straw Hats and Co. to grab a foothold on him?
It's not like he could detach his own arm. That would be pretty much the opposite of assimilating, which is his ability.
Pica could have created any obstacle there, but none of them would prevent Luffy from simply jumping to his head and smashing it.
I didn't see any inconsistence on Pica's actions.
He tried to use stone, but failed. He's now taking action with his own body (that doesn't mean he can't use his ability anymore).
It's not like he can detach his own arm. That's pretty much the opposite of assimilating.
So… you are saying that after doing it once he stays giant forever and has no way of stopping?
That seems kinda inconvenient.
And not true.
Doffy himself has stated that they are not moving, but playing for time. Why does Pica goes for the kill instead of playing for time then?
More to the point, he clearly either cannot or will not control his giant stone body while enganging Zoro one-on-one.
He was shown to be capable of dropping people down.
There is no reason to not try using this skill now.
Perhaps instead of that giant telegraphed attack?
Shiliew, and whoever is the swordsmen for Kaido and Big Mom.
I'm still pretty confident that one of Kaido's commanders will be a Preying Mantis Zoan, and he'll be Zoro's opponent.
I'm still pretty confident that one of Kaido's commanders will be a Preying Mantis Zoan, and he'll be Zoro's opponent.
That's actually pretty cool.
like I posted earlier, Corazon & Doffy were twins and Doffy killed Cora and took over as the head of the family…only Law knows the truth...maybe the rest of the DD family thinks it happened cuz of natural cause...so DD could lose, the most important thing to him by the time thir Arc is finished, his family.
Suleiman got way more panel time than Orlumbus during D-Block, fighting Rebecca and all. Ideo was essentially ignored.
That's not true. Ideo basically tied as the third strongest C Block contender with Sai, and they got the only thing resembling a 1 vs 1 fight in all of the tournament.
Ideo was, in fact, the Block C equivalent to Blue Gilly; the guy who doesn't have anything to do with anyone else, who appears outta nowhere, and who (relatively) kicks quite some ass.
Now, I gotta say, Suleiman does seem to pose on the face shot panels. . .then disappear for the actual action shots, lol. It's funny.
The translation was awful in MS's version too, but the quality of the scans made the chapter 10 times more enjoyable. Still technically "not much happened", but the little stuff here and there (admiral hug, Abdullah and Jeet, etc. . .) made up for it.
I won't be making any Corazón assumption or theory, but I think we're all jumping the gun on the chapter 0 Doflamingo panel. It's supposed to be a much younger Doflamingo, of course he won't be 100% similar. That it was supposed to be a Dofla twin. . .makes no sense? The point of that scene was to show us the pirates that we KNOW (or, at that point in time, knew), not. . .twin brothers of the pirates we knew? I don't know, makes little sense to me. We'll see.
And now. . .a long long long walk in the desert. I hope Oda's operation goes super smoothly (if it wasn't already done, which I guess could be the case??) and he has a great recovery. That he's been working for a whole year with a condition that apparently worsened everytime he got tired, considering he works like 20+ hours a day. . .well. That sure was a pain in the ass.
So… you are saying that after doing it once he stays giant forever and has no way of stopping?
That seems kinda inconvenient.
And not true.
Doffy himself has stated that they are not moving, but playing for time. Why does Pica goes for the kill instead of playing for time then?
More to the point, he clearly either cannot or will not control his giant stone body while enganging Zoro one-on-one.
He was shown to be capable of dropping people down.
There is no reason to not try using this skill now.
Perhaps instead of that giant telegraphed attack?
His rock body was entirely solid. He couldn't just detach parts of it at will. He had to punch his own arm to make it crumble.
Luffy and Zoro were shown earlier to be able to bypass his rock manipulation back at the castle. Hands and walls wouldn't have helped at all.
And while he can't control the giant anymore, he can still control the stone that forms it.
Doffy himself has stated that they are not moving, but playing for time. Why does Pica goes for the kill instead of playing for time then?
I was under the impression that Pica has taken things personally against Luffy, hence he'd forgotten all about Doffy's plan and went after our hero. His dialogue these past chapters consists of "Oooohh" and "Straw Hat!"
That's not true. Ideo basically tied as the third strongest C Block contender with Sai, and they got the only thing resembling a 1 vs 1 fight in all of the tournament.
Ideo was, in fact, the Block C equivalent to Blue Gilly; the guy who doesn't have anything to do with anyone else, who appears outta nowhere, and who (relatively) kicks quite some ass.
I'm talking from a screentime perspective. We saw him punching Hajrudin out of the way and then having a back and forth with Sai. He was shown way less than say Jean Ango and the Funk Brothers, who were taken down earlier.
Meh. Not much happened. Even last weeks chapter, in all of its nebulousness, was better. I really fulminate that Oda decided to, once again, give Zoro's opponent for the arc a claymore (the moment had no buildup whatsoever, but then again Kaku wasn't developed to be a swordsman and nor was Daz Bones, to be honest). Come on Oda, for once, give Zoro an opponent that doesn't use a blade. I initially thought Pica would be that opponent, but I digress, it doesn't seem like its going to happen. Sigh. On a more optimistic note, its nice to see Oda mastery of Checkov's gun. The fact Oda may have had Corazon in his head before Chapter 0 is just amazing.
Moriah looks totally different in Chapter 0 too, that must have been his twin brother Gekko Coriah who was an amazing super-dude that fought on par with Kaidou that's why regular Moriah was such a fat useless tool it was his brother they're different guys.
@Fighting:
Moriah looks totally different in Chapter 0 too, that must have been his twin brother Gekko Coriah who was an amazing super-dude that fought on par with Kaidou that's why regular Moriah was such a fat useless tool it was his brother they're different guys.
Don't doubt Oda's mastery of Chekov's Gun. He introduced Garp in a cover story over 200 chapters before his introduction. What makes you think that this isn't the case with Corazon.
Don't doubt Oda's mastery of Chekov's Gun. He introduced Garp in a cover story over 200 chapters before his introduction. What makes you think that this isn't the case with Corazon.
Oh, sure, it's possible, but "but he had a pointier chin!" isn't exactly convincing evidence.
@Fighting:
Oh, sure, it's possible, but "but he had a pointier chin!" isn't exactly convincing evidence.
You have a point. However, as one poster pointed out, the Dofla in Louge town 20 years ago had the same earrings as Law; but, outside of that, I'm afraid, the theory holds nothing. Still interesting to speculate, wouldn't you agree?
You have a point. However, as one poster pointed out, the Dofla in Louge town 20 years ago had the same earrings as Law; but, outside of that, I'm afraid, the theory holds nothing. Still interesting to speculate, wouldn't you agree?
Yep, and I can't wait for the reveal in three weeks! I love a long-term payoff, even if I'm not convinced by the "Cora at Loguetown" idea quite yet, it would be neat if it was true.
cobys face did change too.
oda even mentioned that this just happens to boys in that age, and doflamingo was how old, 17?
moria also looked different, i'm pretty sure this is just to show how they changed over the years. (eventhough moria just looks like his chin got amputated)
also i would think that if there had been a preview of corazons face it wouldnt look so creepy, as he's supposed to be some sort of good guy-senpai for law
Meet your maker Pika! I hope Zoro doesn't one-shot him now that he's not hiding.