@DarkFalcon:
Now Darth is making different mistake.
A caused X, since X was bad, A likewise was bad.
The problem is, that's not what happened.
What happened was: A, B, C, D, E occurred and X happened as a result.
If B, C, D, E occurred and A wouldn't, than still X would have happened.
X was bad, but that does not validates the claim that A was bad. We do not what effect A would have caused uttered in different circumstances, we do not know if A would occur without B, C, D, E. We do not know in what way A affected in this particular circumstances X.
Here is were I have problem with your reasoning: A still contributes to X. X would still happened, but it might have happened in a less extreme manner.
And more importantly, even if we say that A was only contributing, that doesn't change the fact that A was contributing towards an evil.
Now, what we disagree on here is a matter of degree. You say that because of the unknown variables we are not able to determine that A was evil. However, that is not argument for A being not evil. The only to argue that, would be to make an absoluty: A had not contributed in any way to the evil that is X. And unless you can do that, the A would still be classified as evil, I'm afraid.
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@benjamminbrown:
But you've all completely missed the point that others have been making: That his "One Piece… It exists!" speech may have more meaning behind it than what simply appears on the surface.
There is good reason to suspect this, if only because Oda cut WB's and Roger's conversation about the meaning of D short.
It's important to note that before WB gave this statement, he also commented about BB not being "the one that Roger was waiting for".
You're all arguing back and forth about whether inspiring pirates is a bad/good thing simply based on your varying definitions of pirates, but we still have no idea what the D's are. This is something that is extremely important, and may impact our interpretation of WB's speech, right?
Yes it can.
Shall we close the thread until One Piece ends, then? Because I can't really argue against some unrevealed thing that might happen. Hell, I can make the argument: One Piece will bring end to the WG, therefore causing a massive civil world war, that will bring end to the society as we know it, and cause countless loss of life. And therefore, Whitebeard was even more evil then we thought he was, and all he was after was petty revenge against WG for killing Ace.
And that's why we should focus on what already did happen, and not on speculation.