One Piece Chapter 740 - Please!!!
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@LordEnel:
What? No!
The revolutionaries are here to overthrow doflamingo, the strawhats just happened to be in the way.
Anyways I don't know if you noticed the dd family is too much for the strawhats to handle, the revolutionaries will join. In.
No they are not, the situation is complicated because half of the SHs are not even on dressrosa and the Marines interference. DD family pose as much threat as other shichibukai they've faced in the past.
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No they are not, the situation is complicated because half of the SHs are not even on dressrosa and the Marines interference. DD family pose as much threat as other shichibukai they've faced in the past.
What are you talking about, if the strawhats never had gone to punk hazard but to raijiin island. Which in universe is yesterday. None of what is happening in dressrosa would have happened.
The revolutionaries regardless would have come to overthrow doflamingo, and free the kingdom, now if they could or couldn't do it it's a totally different argument, important to notice that fujitora and the marines would not have been there.
In the current situation the strawhats just managed to interfere and tie in with the revolution before the government kicks in, so if the strawhats were to be defeated, the revolutionaries would just complete the job.
Edit: I completely misread your post(idea), and no I still disagree because This is the first time they face a full on actual crew and not just the main villains and some random sidekicks for the rest.
Unlike before , besides doflamingo, I'm sure all 4 executives could have given luffy a good fight, never have we had so many powerful members in one crew.
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@LordEnel:
Edit: I completely misread your post(idea), and no I still disagree because This is the first time they face a full on actual crew and not just the main villains and some random sidekicks for the rest.
Unlike before , besides doflamingo, I'm sure all 4 executives could have given luffy a good fight, never have we had so many powerful members in one crew.
Yes I get it. They are a powerful crew but are they offering any threat more than what the SHs faced in Alabasta? Croc had a full crew filled with powerful folks at that level as well. Zoro almost died, Bon Clay broke Sanji's ribs, Nami covered in blood, don't understand how Usopp is still alive and Luffy died twice. Although they didn't engage Robin, but she could handle anyone in the crew easily apart from Luffy due to his DF.
Or should we compare to Moriah? If nightmare Luffy hadn't showed up, the SHs were done.
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Something tells me that Luffy's final battle will end up taking place in the a city; you know, something along the lines of a fight that is some how brought to the town, causing the citizens of Dressrosa to see Dofla's true colors.
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Yes I get it. They are a powerful crew but are they offering any threat more than what the SHs faced in Alabasta? Croc had a full crew filled with powerful folks at that level as well. Zoro almost died, Bon Clay broke Sanji's ribs, Nami covered in blood, don't understand how Usopp is still alive and Luffy died twice. Although they didn't engage Robin, but she could handle anyone in the crew easily apart from Luffy due to his DF.
Or should we compare to Moriah? If nightmare Luffy hadn't showed up, the SHs were done.
I agree that the strawhats had more or less always life or death situation, even against that slow guy.
However doflamingo has been hyped for more then 400 chapters.
I don't think you fully understand what doflamingo is at the moment.
First Doflamingo is introduced while randomly controlling 2 vice admirals for the sheer fun of it.
We then later find in Jaya mocking Bellamy, and talking about the new era as if he was in full control of it.
Then at the war at marineford, where even admirals get their shit delivered to them, he continued to laugh all the way trough.
Among the way however he randomly severed a limb of Oars.
Mocked A fellow shichibukai and asked him to join him as a subordinate(lol?!)
He then fucked with the third division commander of the most powerful crew in the world!
Later as if it wasn't enough he is now being assigned the very task of taking out his fellow shichibukai(LOL)
Among the way we also learn that he is one o the biggest slave dealers in the world.
After the timeskip we find out he Randomly performed a Coup D'etat in his youth on a WHOLE country.
We then find out he has a spy in the marines a VICE ADMIRAL.
Among his random subordinates we find the second best scientist in the world with a bounty of 300 million on his head.
As if it wasn't enough we find out he somehow can get hold of devil fruits?
And is the biggest partner of none other of one of the strongest people in the world.
Didn't think twice before attacking and admiral threatening him.
Didn't seem that intimidated from a close encounter of a former admiral.
Among his many resources, lies a Crew unique and at first glance unbelievably strong.I think this is by a very large margin the best hype any character has ever gotten and will get in one piece.
Now tell me if he's not that dangerous.
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@LordEnel:
I agree that the strawhats had more or less always life or death situation, even against that slow guy.
However doflamingo has been hyped for more then 400 chapters.
I don't think you fully understand what doflamingo is at the moment.
First Doflamingo is introduced while randomly controlling 2 vice admirals for the sheer fun of it.
We then later find in Jaya mocking Bellamy, and talking about the new era as if he was in full control of it.
Then at the war at marineford, where even admirals get their shit delivered to them, he continued to laugh all the way trough.
Among the way however he randomly severed a limb of Oars.
Mocked A fellow shichibukai and asked him to join him as a subordinate(lol?!)
He then fucked with the third division commander of the most powerful crew in the world!
Later as if it wasn't enough he is now being assigned the very task of taking out his fellow shichibukai(LOL)
Among the way we also learn that he is one o the biggest slave dealers in the world.
After the timeskip we find out he Randomly performed a Coup D'etat in his youth on a WHOLE country.
We then find out he has a spy in the marines a VICE ADMIRAL.
Among his random subordinates we find the second best scientist in the world with a bounty of 300 million on his head.
As if it wasn't enough we find out he somehow can get hold of devil fruits?
And is the biggest partner of none other of one of the strongest people in the world.
Didn't think twice before attacking and admiral threatening him.
Didn't seem that intimidated from a close encounter of a former admiral.
Among his many resources, lies a Crew unique and at first glance unbelievably strong.I think this is by a very large margin the best hype any character has ever gotten and will get in one piece.
Now tell me if he's not that dangerous.
Eh…...Blackbeard. That is all.
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Eh…...Blackbeard. That is all.
Uhh that one liner …
But I guess you're right. Having the power to destroy the planet and on top of that the ability to absorb all things ...
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I forgot to say he fucked and forced the tenryuubito into making him a sichibukai.
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When it comes to hype, just as Rob said…
Blackbeard > Doflamingo
Although, answering the original point - anyone arguing that Mingo isn't dangerous is delusional. The guy has been ridiculously hyped and will probably play a big part in the story beyond his defeat in this arc.
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Something tells me that Luffy's final battle will end up taking place in the a city; you know, something along the lines of a fight that is some how brought to the town, causing the citizens of Dressrosa to see Dofla's true colors.
True colours of pure awesomeness with powers that the citizens will love?
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@LordEnel:
I forgot to say he fucked and forced the tenryuubito into making him a sichibukai.
Btw, he only controled one vice admiral at that first meeting. The other one was just defending.
I was only really impressed 2 times. When he cut of Oars' leg just like that and when I saw Monet and Vergo willing to die for him just like that. I've only seen that level of devotion with Strawhats. I think at that moment I realized he had Conqueror Haki.
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Just to make it clear, I wasn't saying that Doffy hasn't been hyped massively, and isn't rather dangerous…just not as much as Teach.
I just like raining on other people's parades is the problem, really.
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Don't know if anyone already post it
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probs mentioned already but I can see usopp versing trebol.
trebol is also kind of sniper so seeing the two duel by shooting attacks, stopping the opponent's attacks in air etc would be cool.
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That's just ridiculous and stupid, how does SPOILER cause a decline in SALES? Can someone please explain this to me? because it doesn't make any fixable sense at all.
Shouldn't this people be going after scanlators instead? you know, the main thing that causes manga decline in sales.
And good luck to them, trying to sue and stop something on the internet is like trying to kill all the fish in the ocean. -
@The:
Don't know if anyone already post it
I am quite happy if this would mean no more spoilers. They are destroying part of experience.
After few months of not reading I had really bad days at life and I seen last week spoilers were up for quite long time. So I looked up and experience of reading chapter itself was nothing like what i was getting for those few last months, not knowing nothing.
Spoilers are mostly to kill time in waiting for chapters, its worth to fill waiting time in different way and get more out of each chapter. -
probs mentioned already but I can see usopp versing trebol.
trebol is also kind of sniper so seeing the two duel by shooting attacks, stopping the opponent's attacks in air etc would be cool.
I can't wait to see the comeback oda has in store for him.And I think this probably mentioned already, but Doflqmingo shot Law so we can expect him vs Usopp?
And where is the people who claimed Gladius vs Usopp is a most? Since Gladius shot Baby 5 he became Usopp opponent.
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That's just ridiculous and stupid, how does SPOILER cause a decline in SALES? Can someone please explain this to me? because it doesn't make any fixable sense at all.
Shouldn't this people be going after scanlators instead? you know, the main thing that causes manga decline in sales.
And good luck to them, trying to sue and stop something on the internet is like trying to kill all the fish in the ocean.If this will end up only in end of spoilers and maybe one week extra break why it is so bad? Because I dont understand- one day longer without one piece in each week and thats all.
Spoilers decrease sales as most people read OP for example for story, we get spoilers one week before chapter is relased in japan- so if somebody wants badly to see spoilers on net then he knows what happens in chapter one week in advance.
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I am quite happy if this would mean no more spoilers. They are destroying part of experience.
There is a thread named SPOILER written in bold, and by its side or when you enter, it says "Spoiler chapter so" And yet you enter the thread to read the spoiler, and now your complaining it ruins your experience?
Lmao, didn't know there was so much ignorance on here.
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Couldn't care less about spoilers. The time difference between spoilers and scanlations is less than a day and we get full summaries anyway. Just not worth it any more.
And it probably does ruin the experience for most people, even if they don't admit it. Especially with chapters that have big reveals or plot twists.
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There is a thread named SPOILER written in bold, and by its side or when you enter, it says "Spoiler chapter so" And yet you enter the thread to read the spoiler, and now your complaining it ruins your experience?
Lmao, didn't know there was so much ignorance on here.
Seems you kinda got it wrong.
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There is a thread named SPOILER written in bold, and by its side or when you enter, it says "Spoiler chapter so" And yet you enter the thread to read the spoiler, and now your complaining it ruins your experience?
Lmao, didn't know there was so much ignorance on here.
You act retarded by writing like you didnt took time to understand what I wrote.
I explained it ruins experience of people looking into them, I checked spoilers first time after a month and reading chapter itslef wasnt even half as exciting as without looking into them.
There is no need for spoilers really. Beside for people reading manga in paper form weekly - japan - its spoiler one week before chapter being in store - that surely affect sales. I can wait even one week or two if needed if there will be no chapters anymore a week before its real relase.Do you now get it or somehow you confirm by your own acting that level of ignorance is high here?
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If this will end up only in end of spoilers and maybe one week extra break why it is so bad? Because I dont understand- one day longer without one piece in each week and thats all.
Spoilers decrease sales as most people read OP for example for story, we get spoilers one week before chapter is relased in japan- so if somebody wants badly to see spoilers on net then he knows what happens in chapter one week in advance.
Many people might not feel need of buying chapters after reading it online.So your conclusion: "You don't know anything about spoiler, scanlation, nor official release".
Let me Educate you for a minute here-
Spoilers come out hours, maybe maximum 6-7hours before scanlation is out. Now scanlation is out 1 week before the official release in Japan or other countries with Viz. And yes, the chapters you read every Wednesday is a scanlation that comes out 1 week before the official release time.Please now answer this question, Which would you say causes the decrease in Sales?
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There is a thread named SPOILER written in bold, and by its side or when you enter, it says "Spoiler chapter so" And yet you enter the thread to read the spoiler, and now your complaining it ruins your experience?
Lmao, didn't know there was so much ignorance on here.
This is possibly the most ironic post I've seen on AP.
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Seems you kinda got it wrong.
Yeah I've wondering, it's early morning here just woke up, so maybe I'm reading it wrong or something, so kindly explain it to me, if not then it still stupid.
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So your conclusion: "You don't know anything about spoiler, scanlation, nor official release".
Let me Educate you for a minute here-
Spoilers come out hours, maybe maximum 6-7hours before scanlation is out. Now scanlation is out 1 week before the official release in Japan or other countries with Viz. And yes, the chapters you read every Wednesday is a scanlation that comes out 1 week before the official release time.Please now answer this question, Which would you say causes the decrease in Sales?
Fact that people in japan or "with viz" can see chapter one week early on internet. As it should not affect volume relases it surely affect weekly sales. Thats my take on it so what is so wrong with it and whats your problem?
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You act retarded by writing like you didnt took time to understand what I wrote.
I explained it ruins experience of people looking into them, I checked spoilers first time after a month and reading chapter itslef wasnt even half as exciting as without looking into them.
There is no need for spoilers really. Beside for people reading manga in paper form weekly - japan - its spoiler one week before chapter being in store - that surely affect sales. I can wait even one week or two if needed if there will be no chapters anymore a week before its real relase.Do you now get it or somehow you confirm by your own acting that level of ignorance is high here?
The bolded means you don't know shit.
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The bolded means you don't know shit.
Thanks for translation :happy:
Its nice that you try to redirect attention from fact that you still didnt understood my first point about spoilers affecting experience
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Fact that people in japan or "with viz" can see chapter one week early on internet. As it should not affect volume relases it surely affect weekly sales. Thats my take on it so what is so wrong with it and whats your problem?
Why so much emotions?The emotion here is that Spoiler don't spoil people, people spoil themselves.
Scanlation is the thing thats dangling on the internet, which incase spoils it for the official readers.
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And I think this probably mentioned already, but Doflqmingo shot Law so we can expect him vs Usopp?
And where is the people who claimed Gladius vs Usopp is a most? Since Gladius shot Baby 5 he became Usopp opponent.
not sure what your problem is with my post, but trebol demonstrated impressive marksman skills with shooting a fly between the eyes.
im sure trebol will perform some more of that later.
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Not a morning person eh? I don't care about this topic enough to go into useless debates.
Both spoilers and scanlations affect the sales. But I can manage without the spoilers easilly.
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The emotion here is that Spoiler don't spoil people, people spoil themselves.
Scanlation is the thing thats dangling on the internet, which incase spoils it for the official readers.
No more occasions for people to spoil themselves is good for overal experience of readers as group. That was my point. I still dont get why you are so over your head with that thing
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not sure what your problem is with my post, but trebol demonstrated impressive marksman skills with shooting a fly between the eyes.
im sure trebol will perform some more of that later.
him and doflamingo and gladius are different.Well that's not how things always go in OP. Also, when was the last time Usopp had a fight against a marksman?
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@LordEnel:
I agree that the strawhats had more or less always life or death situation, even against that slow guy.
However doflamingo has been hyped for more then 400 chapters.
I don't think you fully understand what doflamingo is at the moment.
First Doflamingo is introduced while randomly controlling 2 vice admirals for the sheer fun of it.
We then later find in Jaya mocking Bellamy, and talking about the new era as if he was in full control of it.
Then at the war at marineford, where even admirals get their shit delivered to them, he continued to laugh all the way trough.
Among the way however he randomly severed a limb of Oars.
Mocked A fellow shichibukai and asked him to join him as a subordinate(lol?!)
He then fucked with the third division commander of the most powerful crew in the world!
Later as if it wasn't enough he is now being assigned the very task of taking out his fellow shichibukai(LOL)
Among the way we also learn that he is one o the biggest slave dealers in the world.
After the timeskip we find out he Randomly performed a Coup D'etat in his youth on a WHOLE country.
We then find out he has a spy in the marines a VICE ADMIRAL.
Among his random subordinates we find the second best scientist in the world with a bounty of 300 million on his head.
As if it wasn't enough we find out he somehow can get hold of devil fruits?
And is the biggest partner of none other of one of the strongest people in the world.
Didn't think twice before attacking and admiral threatening him.
Didn't seem that intimidated from a close encounter of a former admiral.
Among his many resources, lies a Crew unique and at first glance unbelievably strong.I think this is by a very large margin the best hype any character has ever gotten and will get in one piece.
Now tell me if he's not that dangerous.
Most of the stuff you mentioned is his influence, we know that already. He and his crew are very powerful and I know that. But is he offering a bigger threat than what the SHs faced in their previous encounter against other Shichibukai esp Croc? No. If they can handle Croc and his crew back when no one in the crew have any grasp of Haki, Zoro couldn't even cut wax talk more of iron, Luffy fighting skills was lacking considerably, we can go through so many ways the SHs were lacking when they met Croc. But they came through it without an external help.
Croc crew was very strong at that level, hell, Mr 3 was the final boss of an arc.
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Not a morning person eh? I don't care about this topic enough to go into useless debates.
Both spoilers and scanlations affect the sales. But I can manage without the spoilers easilly.
And I'm saying it doesn't make an sense, Spoiler is just a review of what happens in a chapter with no images, so how can such a thing affect sales when compared to reading a chapter line by line, Oda's word for word with images?
Or are you trying to tell me that some after reading spoiler they wait another week for next chapter?
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No more occasions for people to spoil themselves is good for overal experience of readers as group. That was my point. I still dont get why you are so over your head with that thing
And my point here is, you only spoil yourself if you go into a thread that says spoiler. You can't randomly see spoiler on the internet, 90% of them has the word SPOILER written as first read before continuing.
Scanlation is what you google, click images and every page is out there in open.
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This is possibly the most ironic post I've seen on AP.
Thanks man. Atleast, someone understands me here.
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Well that's not how things always go in OP. Also, when was the last time Usopp had a fight against a marksman?
Does shooting the antenna of an ant 100 feet away mean nothing to you? As for your question, if I recall correctly that would have to be the "duel" with Daddy right? that's a terrible logic though.. Van Augur is supposedly his last opponent and no one would reject that idea but he can't get the opponent that is totally unexpected just because he's an executive? Was Chu's rank any less than Kuroobi and Hachi?
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And my point here is, you only spoil yourself if you go into a thread that says spoiler. You can't randomly see spoiler on the internet, 90% of them has the word SPOILER written as first read before continuing.
Scanlation is what you google, click images and every page is out there in open.
It seems that you still didnt gotten my point… Oh well maybe I cant explain good enough my point.
Also RobZilla- now I dont unerstand what post you mean was ironic? Im kind of puzzled here.
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And I'm saying it doesn't make an sense, Spoiler is just a review of what happens in a chapter with no images, so how can such a thing affect sales when compared to reading a chapter line by line, Oda's word for word with images?
Or are you trying to tell me that some after reading spoiler they wait another week for next chapter?
Well, I couldn't read that link since I'm at work, but I'm guessing it's the first move towards shutting down scanlations as well. One step at a time. It's a lost cause, I guess. No matter how many sites they sue, there will always be new ones with spoilers, raws and scanlations.
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Thanks man. Atleast, someone understands me here.
It seems that you still didnt gotten my point… Oh well maybe I cant explain good enough my point.
Also RobZilla- now I dont unerstand what post you mean was ironic? Im kind of puzzled here.
Dark Ritual's post was ironic because he claimed ignorance on Vagabonds part, even though he was completely ignorant of what he actually meant in his post about spoilers/experience.
Hope that clears things up.
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Dark Ritual's post was ironic because he claimed ignorance on Vagabonds part, even though he was completely ignorant of what he actually meant in his post about spoilers/experience.
Hope that clears things up.
Spoiler ruin experience this everyone knows. So when you enter the thread knowing this then your just ignoring the obvious….
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Does shooting the antenna of an ant 100 feet away mean nothing to you? As for your question, if I recall correctly that would have to be the "duel" with Daddy right? that's a terrible logic though.. Van Augur is supposedly his last opponent and no one would reject that idea but he can't get the opponent that is totally unexpected just because he's an executive? Was Chu's rank any less than Kuroobi and Hachi?
Daddy didn't even appear in manga. He appeared in a novel Loguetown Arc then was added as anime filler. Not sure if he's regarded canon.
I'm just saying, you can't deffinitely pair Usopp against Trebol based only on shared skill. Especially since Usopp never really fought a sniper before. Closest thing to it was that Baroque dog Lassoo.
Don't get me wrong, I'd like to see Usopp in a ranged match against someone. It might turn out awesome. But Trebol is way out of his league. He doesn't need precision to fight Usopp. He can drop a ship on his head if he wants.
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Dark Ritual's post was ironic because he claimed ignorance on Vagabonds part, even though he was completely ignorant of what he actually meant in his post about spoilers/experience.
Hope that clears things up.
Thank you very much, it cleared up everything for me.
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It seems that you still didnt gotten my point… Oh well maybe I cant explain good enough my point.
Your point is that Spoiler ruin experience and cause decrease in manga sales. If one can't hold out till the chapter releases then are you not the one ruining your own experience? And I still don't understand spoiler causing decrease in sales.
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Well, I couldn't read that link since I'm at work, but I'm guessing it's the first move towards shutting down scanlations as well. One step at a time. It's a lost cause, I guess. No matter how many sites they sue, there will always be new ones with spoilers, raws and scanlations.
Indeed one step at a time, but how would shutting down spoiler affect scanlation?
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Spoiler ruin experience this everyone knows. So when you enter the thread knowing this then your just ignoring the obvious….
Oh, bloody hell.
He's not saying that he read the spoilers unintentionally and that ruined the experience for him by accident.
He's saying that the temptation of having the spoilers there and reading them as such ruins the experience for him.
As such, without spoilers, his experience could not possibly be ruined.
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Daddy didn't even appear in manga. He appeared in a novel Loguetown Arc then was added as anime filler. Not sure if he's regarded canon.
I'm just saying, you can't deffinitely pair Usopp against Trebol based only on shared skill. Especially since Usopp never really fought a sniper before. Closest thing to it was that Baroque dog Lassoo.
Don't get me wrong, I'd like to see Usopp in a ranged match against someone. It might turn out awesome. But Trebol is way out of his league. He doesn't need precision to fight Usopp. He can drop a ship on his head if he wants.
Oda cut it so the arrival to the Grand Line would be exactly the 100th chapter. You do realize Usopp's goal isn't just to be brave right? I'm not saying he has to absolutely fight Trebol but if he wants to be king or just at the very least be as good as his Dad, he'd have to sack up and start beating some peeps with sharpshooting skills. Usopp's fight is always his disadvantage, not to mention he always gets badly wounded.. so that doesn't really mean anything.
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Indeed one step at a time, but how would shutting down spoiler affect scanlation?
If spoilers and raws are from the same source, maybe. Don't really see how they think it will work. Probably just targeting what they see as the weakest link in scanlation business.
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Oh, bloody hell.
He's not saying that he read the spoilers unintentionally and that ruined the experience for him by accident.
He's saying that the temptation of having the spoilers there and reading them as such ruins the experience for him.
As such, without spoilers, his experience could not possibly be ruined.
Isn't that just blaming others for your problem though? lol
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Your point is that Spoiler ruin experience and cause decrease in manga sales. If one can't hold out till the chapter releases then are you not the one ruining your own experience? And I still don't understand spoiler causing decrease in sales.
Its like occasion makes the thief. So as long as people will be capable of getting their eyes on spoilers some might loose interest in buying actual paper relase. If somebody gets to know that nothing happens in chapter after reading few lines of summary then plenty of people might judge just by it and dont buy chapter. One Piece first summaries can suck while chapter is awesome. Its not like sales are dropping near zero but even some few % drop is a hit for people relasing it. Or I might be somehow not totaly right but its possible that they are concerned for a reason over those spoilers and they mean for more than just those few lines.
Maybe it means scanlations before relase being "in the red zone" same as spoilers. And as for me "knowing shit" - it seems I didnt knew all but it didnt affected point that I was trying to make. Now with full picture I still think it might work out well and its nothing to be really afraid of- lack of spoilers I mean.
Oh, bloody hell.
He's not saying that he read the spoilers unintentionally and that ruined the experience for him by accident.
He's saying that the temptation of having the spoilers there and reading them as such ruins the experience for him.
As such, without spoilers, his experience could not possibly be ruined.
I was starting to think that maybe I really wrote in way that makes it impossible to understand me clearly.. But its not the case as I see. Thank you again :ninja:
Isn't that just blaming others for your problem though? lol
What problem? Really.. Now just go and read stuff from the start. Go go go go…
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Oh, bloody hell.
He's not saying that he read the spoilers unintentionally and that ruined the experience for him by accident.
He's saying that the temptation of having the spoilers there and reading them as such ruins the experience for him.
As such, without spoilers, his experience could not possibly be ruined.
Don't go Brits on me right now.
The generally topic here is "How Spoiler causes decrease in manga sales" not about temptation of reading a spoiler or not.
We already had that thread before, and I'm not gonna start talking about the same stuff here, my main argument is like I said above. Talking about temptation to read spoiler or not doesn't give me any answer.
And maybe him and me misunderstood each other there.
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I was starting to think that maybe I really wrote in way that makes it impossible to understand me clearly.. But its not the case as I see. Thank you again :ninja:
Maybe I should make a spoiler support thread, like on MH. Before that killjoy closed it.