Just a total random prediction
Blue Gilly will be part of Law's crew at the end of Dressrosa
Just a total random prediction
Blue Gilly will be part of Law's crew at the end of Dressrosa
New bounty predictions Urouge 308,000,000 Capone Bege 298,000,000 X drake 468,000,000 Jewelry Bonney 310,000,000
@kuma:
Cavendish Is one of the top 10 swordsmen in the One Piece world.
I doubt Zoro is there yet. And I doubt Oda would make cavendish much stronger than Zoro.
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I am curious if Oda will go with the Shiki/Whitebeard and Kid/Law of old and new generation route.. however Law seems to be a bit different from Whitebeard since he's a massive dick. Shiki and Kid though, they have similarities.
I don't see how Shiki and Kidd are like each other. I would say he seems more like Law. A careful planner.
I doubt Zoro is there yet. And I doubt Oda would make cavendish much stronger than Zoro.
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I don't see how Shiki and Kidd are like each other. I would say he seems more like Law. A careful planner.
In what way is Shiki a careful planner?
In waiting 20 years for his plan to be fruitful instead of rushing things? Whitebeard even commented on it.
In what way is Shiki a careful planner?
That is what Whitebeard told us. He is renowned to always be planning something. So if you want parallel make Law as Shiki and Kidd as Whitebeard.
Kaido will have eaten the mythical devil fruit of some sort of titan I say Cronus or thou thphon would make sense. when we next see Moriah he'll have an appearance resembling Frankenstein after Hogback rearranges his whole body so it looks like a living zombie.
@Devil:
In waiting 20 years for his plan to be fruitful instead of rushing things? Whitebeard even commented on it.
garp said the same thing too
That is what Whitebeard told us. He is renowned to always be planning something. So if you want parallel make Law as Shiki and Kidd as Whitebeard.
Kid and Whitebeard have nothing in common though. Kid wants to be Pirate King just like Luffy and while Law seems to be after it as well, I doubt it's for the same reason those two are after it. Whitebeard was also by the looks of things allies with Roger, and Law and Luffy seem to be heading the exact same way. Kid is clearly quite antagonistic towards Luffy. He also seems to be quite the psychopath and kills civilians without a care, I would put that more in line with Shiki than Whitebeard. The 4 aren't really the same type of personalities mind you and I am glad for that, the last thing we want is the new generation being copy pasted from the previous generation, especially already with the Zoro Mihawk/Rayleigh and Luffy Roger parallels.
Kid and Whitebeard have nothing in common though. Kid wants to be Pirate King just like Luffy and while Law seems to be after it as well, I doubt it's for the same reason those two are after it. Whitebeard was also by the looks of things allies with Roger, and Law and Luffy seem to be heading the exact same way. Kid is clearly quite antagonistic towards Luffy. He also seems to be quite the psychopath and kills civilians without a care, I would put that more in line with Shiki than Whitebeard. The 4 aren't really the same type of personalities mind you and I am glad for that, the last thing we want is the new generation being copy pasted from the previous generation, especially already with the Zoro Mihawk/Rayleigh and Luffy Roger parallels.
Depends. You can say Whitebeard and Kidd are two guys who don't accept shit from anyone. And the same strenght thing.
And Whitebeard wasn't Roger's ally. They had countless battle and respected each other. Just like Roger had great respect for Garp who he almost killed and almost get killed by. And Shiki wanted to dominate the world rather than a mere title like pirate king.
Since I haven't seen the movie I would say that Shiki have no problem killing people but he doesn't do it uselessly. But i haven't see the movie.
Depends. You can say Whitebeard and Kidd are two guys who don't accept shit from anyone. And the same strenght thing.
And Whitebeard wasn't Roger's ally. They had countless battle and respected each other. Just like Roger had great respect for Garp who he almost killed and almost get killed by. And Shiki wanted to dominate the world rather than a mere title like pirate king.
Since I haven't seen the movie I would say that Shiki have no problem killing people but he doesn't do it uselessly. But i haven't see the movie.
They seem to be quite good friends by the looks of it. They were drinking and Roger told him about the Will of D, I don't see that happening unless there's some real friendship there. And what does "accept shit from no one" mean exactly, as you could classify every single big Pirate or Yonko other than Shanks to it. What strength thing? Kid being on par with Luffy? Isn't Law in that category as well? It's pretty obvious that if there are correlations between past legends, Law sides more with Whitebeard and Kid with Shiki.
They seem to be quite good friends by the looks of it. They were drinking and Roger told him about the Will of D, I don't see that happening unless there's some real friendship there. And what does "accept shit from no one" mean exactly, as you could classify every single big Pirate or Yonko other than Shanks to it. What strength thing? Kid being on par with Luffy? Isn't Law in that category as well? It's pretty obvious that if there are correlations between past legends, Law sides more with Whitebeard and Kid with Shiki.
He was laso talking finedly with Garp. That didn't stop them from trying to kill each other many times. I don't know if they were friends or not but they weren't allies.
I'm talking about both Kidd and Whitebeard being arrogant men.
Yes I'm talking about being in par with Luffy. Yes the 3 are most likely in the same range but that doesn't mean one doesn't have a slight advantage on the other. Like Kaku and Jabura for example.
I disagree with your obvious corellation. And there really is nothing obvious for everyone so don't be surprise.
He was laso talking finedly with Garp. That didn't stop them from trying to kill each other many times. I don't know if they were friends or not but they weren't allies.
I'm talking about both Kidd and Whitebeard being arrogant men.
Yes I'm talking about being in par with Luffy. Yes the 3 are most likely in the same range but that doesn't mean one doesn't have a slight advantage on the other. Like Kaku and Jabura for example.
I disagree with your obvious corellation. And there really is nothing obvious for everyone so don't be surprise.
He did talk to Garp that way, but that was also when he was jailed, was going to die soon. Exactly who else could he tell? In what way is Whitebeard arrogant exactly? I don't even know where this is coming from. What advantage does Kid or Law have over the other? All 3 were shown to be on a similar level, with Kid killing a lot more people which explains why he seems to consistently have a higher bounty than the other two.
He did talk to Garp that way, but that was also when he was jailed, was going to die soon. Exactly who else could he tell? In what way is Whitebeard arrogant exactly? I don't even know where this is coming from. What advantage does Kid or Law have over the other? All 3 were shown to be on a similar level, with Kid killing a lot more people which explains why he seems to consistently have a higher bounty than the other two.
He also commented that he trusted Garp like one of his own men from the many battle they had. It is probably the same for Whitebeard.
Well form the way he talks to anyone( besides his sons) he seems pretty arrogant to me. But it may be just me.
Similar level is not same level. Usually the one with the brain is alittle less powerful than the reckless one.
He also commented that he trusted Garp like one of his own men from the many battle they had. It is probably the same for Whitebeard.
Well form the way he talks to anyone( besides his sons) he seems pretty arrogant to me. But it may be just me.
Similar level is not same level. Usually the one with the brain is alittle less powerful than the reckless one.
It's just you. He was the strongest fighter in the world. He was for decades known as the strongest fighter in the world, I think he's earned the right to talk to others whichever he sees fit. So because Law is smarter.. he is weaker than Kid? That's your measurement in power?… We should see Kid and how much of Magneto's power he can utilize before we can make a good measurement of his power level.
Fair enough regarding the battles, but it's hard to imagine he and Shiki would talk that way esp looking at their conversation during the movie. I don't want to spoil it but you should see the movie. It's one of the best OP movies out there.
It's just you. He was the strongest fighter in the world. He was for decades known as the strongest fighter in the world, I think he's earned the right to talk to others whichever he sees fit.
So because Law is smarter.. he is weaker than Kid? That's your measurement in power?… We should see Kid and how much of Magneto's power he can utilize before we can make a good measurement of his power level.Fair enough regarding the battles, but it's hard to imagine he and Shiki would talk that way esp looking at their conversation during the movie. I don't want to spoil it but you should see the movie. It's one of the best OP movies out there.
1-And he talked arrogantly.
2-Weaker than Luffy by the EOS, probably.
3-Seeing how far Shiki has gone to be the one to kill Roger it seems clear that everyone of his rivals had great respect for him.
1-And he talked arrogantly.
2-Weaker than Luffy by the EOS, probably.
3-Seeing how far Shiki has gone to be the one to kill Roger it seems clear that everyone of his rivals had great respect for him.
Luffy is arrogant as hell as well though. Guy goes in fighting Aokiji and wanting to take down all 4 Yonkos. If he wasn't the main character of OP and we looked at it from Sabo's, Kid's, Law's or Ace's perspective, we would often question "who the **** does this guy think he is?". Whitebeard and Kid are far, far away from one another in terms of personalities. Whitebeard just wanted a family, didn't care for OP one bit. His crew mates laughed at him when he responded with family, I can imagine Kid pounding each of them for hours if they did that to him. I'm sure one way or another they respect each other, but would Shiki and Roger have a drink together? I didn't get such an impression myself after watching Strong World to be honest. I am sure even though Kid gets really irritated by Luffy, he still respects him quite a bit. I understand if you don't see correlations between Whitebeard and Law, but not seeing with Law and seeing it with Kid is just a whole other story.
I'm unsure what weaker than Luffy EOS means…
Luffy is arrogant as hell as well though. Guy goes in fighting Aokiji and wanting to take down all 4 Yonkos. If he wasn't the main character of OP and we looked at it from Sabo's, Kid's, Law's or Ace's perspective, we would often question "who the **** does this guy think he is?". Whitebeard and Kid are far, far away from one another in terms of personalities. Whitebeard just wanted a family, didn't care for OP one bit. His crew mates laughed at him when he responded with family, I can imagine Kid pounding each of them for hours if they did that to him. I'm sure one way or another they respect each other, but would Shiki and Roger have a drink together? I didn't get such an impression myself after watching Strong World to be honest. I am sure even though Kid gets really irritated by Luffy, he still respects him quite a bit. I understand if you don't see correlations between Whitebeard and Law, but not seeing with Law and seeing it with Kid is just a whole other story.
I'm unsure what weaker than Luffy EOS means…
I'm not seeing corellation between either of them. But I do believe he will rival Luffu's stenght that is the only thing I see between the two,
Well form the way he talks to anyone( besides his sons) he seems pretty arrogant to me. But it may be just me.
I think when you've been acknowledged as the strongest guy in the world, can take down all but three other people in a fight almost instantly (when using your full power), have the ability to destroy the world, and constantly have to deal with upcoming new rookies who know nothing of the real world and the difference in power between you…. and have been dealing with this for like 50 years, you would tend to get angry and ornery which could be taken as arrogance
cause honestly how do you not look down on someone who's talking shit to you when you know the whole time you could destroy them with your pinky
Dragon is Uranus. He has the sky power.
Sanjuan wolf climbed over the red line rather than go through FI.
@kuma:
Sanjuan wolf climbed over the red line rather than go through FI.
What if BB sucked San Juan Wolf into his darkness and spat him back out once they got to the New World?
@•Ace•:
What if BB sucked San Juan Wolf into his darkness and spat him back out once they got to the New World?
that's not a bad theory, it makes sense too didn't think of that nice one .
Begby Capone, or at least his Devil Fruit, has been co-opted by the Blackbeard pirates so they can fit San Juan Wolf on a boat.
I've said before that I think the Bege, Urouge and Drake are all working under a Yonkou.
@kuma:
I've said before that I think the Bege, Urouge and Drake are all working under a Yonkou.
I still think Drake is undercover. Back on Seabody he just seemed more worried about Kizaru recognizing him then beating him up.
I still think Drake is undercover. Back on Seabody he just seemed more worried about Kizaru recognizing him then beating him up.
I said the same thing a few weeks ago, I don't think any off the supernovas other than Zoro and killer would work under anyone for too long I assume most if not all of them want to be the pirate King. Drake certainty has a lot of mystery surrounding him like why he left the marines when it seemed to be his life long dream to join them when was younger.
I can see Urouge working for a yonko with no plan to betray him. I picture Bege to have failed in the new world.
@•Ace•:
What if BB sucked San Juan Wolf into his darkness and spat him back out once they got to the New World?
isn't anyone who got sucked by his black holes crushed beyond recognition?
I can see Urouge working for a yonko with no plan to betray him. I picture Bege to have failed in the new world.
Having one of the Supernovas would be a nice plot point if they failed. I'm all for it. Bege's power, I just can't see what he could really do to the Supernovas. Even Sanji is likely noticably stronger than him from the SH.
I find it hard for Bege to ever be a main secondary character in an arc, all fleshed and interacting with the Straw Hats. I oddly find him kind of a sore thumb when it comes to the other Supernovas.
I think Bege will appear in his own arc, really. Him as a main villain instead of how Law, Kidd, and Bonney have interacted with the Straw Hats.
Smoker and Tashigi both leave the Navy and end up Strawhat crew members as the last members to join the crew after revelations of the void century.
Aokiji becomes/always was a revolutionary this entire time.
Relating to Dressrosa arc:
I think Akainu might show up when he hears of Luffy turning up (Back from Marineford when Akainu said he wasn't going to let Luffy live for being Dragons son.) and then that will trigger Aokiji turning up which I then believe will lead into another battle between Akainu and Aokiji.
Also anyone think there's a small chance Aokiji might join the Straw Hat's in this arc? I believe he will be a Straw Hat by the end of the series I just don't know if he will be one this early on after leaving the Marines.
Relating to Dressrosa arc:
I think Akainu might show up when he hears of Luffy turning up (Back from Marineford when Akainu said he wasn't going to let Luffy live for being Dragons son.) and then that will trigger Aokiji turning up which I then believe will lead into another battle between Akainu and Aokiji.
Also anyone think there's a small chance Aokiji might join the Straw Hat's in this arc? I believe he will be a Straw Hat by the end of the series I just don't know if he will be one this early on after leaving the Marines.
akainu already knows that luffy is in dressrosa.
and still sent fujitora.
probably his new position doesn't allow him to go whenever he wants.
Not to forget, Luffy is a relatively small fish and if we consider what Law said, namely that the Marines seem to be preparing something, i don´t think it is that much of a priority.
Not to forget, Luffy is a relatively small fish and if we consider what Law said, namely that the Marines seem to be preparing something, i don´t think it is that much of a priority.
Luffy is Dragons son though. My guess he's in there plan somehow as to capture him to lure their main villian Dragon out of hiding…
I think, that the 3 Yonko will make an alliance at some point in time, an alliance to take down Blackbeard. The remains of Whitebeard pirates will also take part in the Great War, that will engulf the New World.
Having one of the Supernovas would be a nice plot point if they failed. I'm all for it. Bege's power, I just can't see what he could really do to the Supernovas. Even Sanji is likely noticably stronger than him from the SH.
How can you say that when don't even know what Bege power is.
Luffy is Dragons son though. My guess he's in there plan somehow as to capture him to lure their main villian Dragon out of hiding…
Quite far-fetched. I think the WG knows that Dragon is a very careful man who puts his self-imposed duty before his feelings.
isn't anyone who got sucked by his black holes crushed beyond recognition?
No the impel down guards were sucked into his black hole and they weren't crushed beyond recognition.
@Lao:
I think, that the 3 Yonko will make an alliance at some point in time, an alliance to take down Blackbeard. The remains of Whitebeard pirates will also take part in the Great War, that will engulf the New World.
That seems epic but i don't see it happening. 3 younkous + remainings of WB pirates seems too much for BB, so he should get owned. But we know he won't be owned, and he got to fight Luffy later on… so that means he would win? That wouldn't make sense for him to possess such power either...
I can see him fighting Shanks or WB remainders only. And maybe then BM or Kaido butts in, but not to help, but you know, when 2 sides fights then 3rd one win :)
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@kuma:
How can you say that when don't even know what Bege power is.
Are you saying we know nothing at all, or are you saying that we don't know enough about this power?
If first option then see this
Doesn't seem that cool though. It's army of fodders with little element of surprise it seems… Unless you put there some great snipers i don't see much use for this power on higher lv (on clearing fodders sure).
Quite far-fetched. I think the WG knows that Dragon is a very careful man who puts his self-imposed duty before his feelings.
You sure about that though? From my thoughts, it seems it was Dragon who saved Luffy at Loguetown from Smoker.
Edit: Blackbeard will defeat Shanks at some point in time and piss off Luffy even more.
Smoker and Tashigi both leave the Navy and end up Strawhat crew members as the last members to join the crew after revelations of the void century.
Aokiji becomes/always was a revolutionary this entire time.
I like that theories. I don't really see too much space for Tashigi, or maybe i just don't care about her enough, but I'd love to see Smoker in the crew. From the guy that was hell bent on capturing Luffy recently had to team up with him and he starts to see that not all pirates are evil. WHen he met Luffy he saved in him Alabasta, defeated the guy that tried to overthrow kingdom, and now in PH he saved the kids and also himself… I think he could be 'Vegeta' of One Piece. The tough guy, that used to be rival of main character, and later on teaming up with main character but still being badass and powerfull. I guess we had a bit of that in Zoro (baddass, similar in strenght to main char, he was portrayed to be Vegeta of One Piece in one piece x toriko x dragon ball crossover), but he was never a villain or anything...
Also that would make SH have all the DFs powers without making them look overpowered. Its not like Smoker's Logia is so destructive like fire, magma etc. And we've seen he should be below Luffy (after being beat by Law who should be on similar lv).
You sure about that though? From my thoughts, it seems it was Dragon who saved Luffy at Loguetown from Smoker.
Edit: Blackbeard will defeat Shanks at some point in time and piss off Luffy even more.
Yes it was, Loguetown is not Marineford or Mariejoa though
That seems epic but i don't see it happening. 3 younkous + remainings of WB pirates seems too much for BB, so he should get owned. But we know he won't be owned, and he got to fight Luffy later on… so that means he would win? That wouldn't make sense for him to possess such power either...
I can see him fighting Shanks or WB remainders only. And maybe then BM or Kaido butts in, but not to help, but you know, when 2 sides fights then 3rd one win :)
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Are you saying we know nothing at all, or are you saying that we don't know enough about this power?
(sry i didn't find anything without music :P)
If first option then see this
It seems to shrink his guys and hide them inside him. He's like a living fortress.Doesn't seem that cool though. It's army of fodders with little element of surprise it seems… Unless you put there some great snipers i don't see much use for this power on higher lv (on clearing fodders sure).
Mate all am saying is all this talk about Bege being weak is a little bit silly, lets just wait in till he does something then we can judge if he's weak or not.
I like that theories. I don't really see too much space for Tashigi, or maybe i just don't care about her enough, but I'd love to see Smoker in the crew. From the guy that was hell bent on capturing Luffy recently had to team up with him and he starts to see that not all pirates are evil. WHen he met Luffy he saved in him Alabasta, defeated the guy that tried to overthrow kingdom, and now in PH he saved the kids and also himself… I think he could be 'Vegeta' of One Piece. The tough guy, that used to be rival of main character, and later on teaming up with main character but still being badass and powerfull. I guess we had a bit of that in Zoro (baddass, similar in strenght to main char, he was portrayed to be Vegeta of One Piece in one piece x toriko x dragon ball crossover), but he was never a villain or anything...
Also that would make SH have all the DFs powers without making them look overpowered. Its not like Smoker's Logia is so destructive like fire, magma etc. And we've seen he should be below Luffy (after being beat by Law who should be on similar lv).
It seems it could work, I remember someone posting a transcript of Oda saying the last member would be a woman who was a past enemy.
My only reasoning behind Smoker and Tashigi joining is they have a sense of Justice (the same way, Luffy does and hates evil kind of justice) and after the revelations of what the World Government did during the Void Century would cause Smoker and Tashigi to either go rogue or Join the Strawhats before/during the last fight against the WG with Luffy.
Yes it was, Loguetown is not Marineford or Mariejoa though
Yeah true. I guess it kind of makes sense since Dragon didn't save Ace or showed up to Marineford. But, then again maybe Dragon didn't know Luffy would've gone to Marineford/Doesn't care about Ace as it isn't his own son in the first place…
Either way, I wonder who Robin spoke with during the Timeskip when Kuma sent her to the Revolutionaries and what did she learn/talk about... (Was it dragon? I was under the impression that Dragon wanted to meet Robin as she was part of his son's crew...)
Donflamingo is secretly resurrecting one of the ancient weapons in Dressora, but to do that he needs man power and alot of money.
That's why has has the whole joker allies, kinda like crocodile with boroque works. Plus he had sugar make all those toys and ceaser selling all those weapons to gather resources.
My theory is due to his heritege, he has come to the knowledge of the existance of a ponyglyph in the undergrounds of dressora and returned with a strong pirate crew to rule it and find it.
Robin is with the infiltration crew and I bet she will run into it soon too.
@kuma:
Mate all am saying is all this talk about Bege being weak is a little bit silly, lets just wait in till he does something then we can judge if he's weak or not.
Oooh, you meant powerlevel, i thought you were talking about his devil fruit. Yeah i guess we don't know, but his power seems to be mostly good for fighting fodders + his bounty wasnt too much so im guessing he's nowhere near Luffy/Law/Kid. But that doesn't mean he's weak either cause those are monsters :P
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It seems it could work, I remember someone posting a transcript of Oda saying the last member would be a woman who was a past enemy.
My only reasoning behind Smoker and Tashigi joining is they have a sense of Justice (the same way, Luffy does and hates evil kind of justice) and after the revelations of what the World Government did during the Void Century would cause Smoker and Tashigi to either go rogue or Join the Strawhats before/during the last fight against the WG with Luffy.
Yeah that makes sense :) But joining only for final fight would be same as allying for just a bit. It wouldn't be really becoming SHs. If there were to become SHs they would have to join before the final arc, so that they can at least travel with them a bit. I don't see anyone joining in last or second to last arc.
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Donflamingo is secretly resurrecting one of the ancient weapons in Dressora, but to do that he needs man power and alot of money.
That's why has has the whole joker allies, kinda like crocodile with boroque works. Plus he had sugar make all those toys and ceaser selling all those weapons to gather resources.
My theory is due to his heritege, he has come to the knowledge of the existance of a ponyglyph in the undergrounds of dressora and returned with a strong pirate crew to rule it and find it.
Robin is with the infiltration crew and I bet she will run into it soon too.
Why does that remind me of FMA? Now if only his plan required human sacrifices… :]
Oooh, you meant powerlevel, i thought you were talking about his devil fruit. Yeah i guess we don't know, but his power seems to be mostly good for fighting fodders + his bounty wasnt too much so im guessing he's nowhere near Luffy/Law/Kid. But that doesn't mean he's weak either cause those are monsters :PAm talking about the complete package his powerlevel, his devil fruit hell even his personality are all a bit of a mystery to us readers, so to say he's on this level or not a threat to this character is just a little premature in my opinion.