I bet you wouldn't have the guts to say any of that to Burgess' face. He'd grind your bones into dust
Chapter 734: "Rommel's Whirlwind"
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I am quite interested in the word "genius" that Mingo used in description of Diamante.
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I am quite interested in the word "genius" that Mingo used in description of Diamante.
Does he have a DF, or is he a master of Haki? or might it be something else?He probably means that he's a combat genius. Kind of like Luffy.
As for Burgess, he like most of Blackbeards crew and Blackbeard himself seems utterly retarded.
Sure Van Auger and Lafitte do seem pretty on the ball. But the rest?
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Shiliew doesn't seem stupid to me. Psychopathic, but not stupid. He criticized Blackbeard for riding into the New World on a raft, saying he doesn't prepare for anything.
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It's not really though…
We don't really have any idea of how strong Burgess is right now.
We know he's a Yonko Commander and wiped out Block A in the blink of an eye, that's about it.
We'll just have to wait and see.
BB is only the yonkou because of his df's. His crew aren't seasoned veterans like other yonkou crews, except for the level 6 members. He beat a bunch of fodder who weren't even worth mentioning in block A. He's not even top 3 strongest in the crew. I think people are buying in to this hype because he's the captain of the first ship. Ace was 2nd commander, but jozu and vista could kick his ass.
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lol at people talking about the final villains of the series not being strong. especially black beard when shanks basically said he was a huge threat and that he gave him those scars and he wasn't underestimating him
he told whitebeard he's aiming for your seat and by his own power he'll get there (or something around those lines)
But all will be clear with Burgess fighting soon when we see him fight strong opponents like Dimatne, Barto, and sabo and everyone who talked about him not being that strong will be like "….. well we had no way of knowing"
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Shiliew doesn't seem stupid to me. Psychopathic, but not stupid. He criticized Blackbeard for riding into the New World on a raft, saying he doesn't prepare for anything.
True enough i guess. Haven't really seen too much of Catherine either.
Although one could almost assume that anyone on that crew is either insane or a moron.
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He probably means that he's a combat genius. Kind of like Luffy.
As for Burgess, he like most of Blackbeards crew and Blackbeard himself seems utterly retarded.
Sure Van Auger and Lafitte do seem pretty on the ball. But the rest?
Meh, the BB's are smarter than they seem.
Some of them are clearly intelligent ie Van Augur, Lafitte, Shilliew.
Some of them we haven't seen very much of at all but we can guess from their general demeanour that they aren't idiots ie Devon, Pizarro, Shot.
Some of them give off an air of idiocy but counteract this with moments of cunning and intelligence ie Teach, Burgess.
…Then you have Wolf, who certainly seems to have an IQ that's inversely proportional to his size.
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I don't like to needlessly chime in like this, but really, the fact that in One Piece we have a final boss crew that consist of stupid people who depends on luck in ever other occasion when in almost every series every you get an Aizen type generic asshole who hits you with the ever so boring and overused "Just as planned" in every chance they get is another indicator that Oda writing skills are REALLY something. :P
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BB is only the yonkou because of his df's. His crew aren't seasoned veterans like other yonkou crews, except for the level 6 members. He beat a bunch of fodder who weren't even worth mentioning in block A. He's not even top 3 strongest in the crew. I think people are buying in to this hype because he's the captain of the first ship. Ace was 2nd commander, but jozu and vista could kick his ass.
A lot of the most powerful characters in the series rely heavily on DF's, this isn't a valid argument to descredit BB's rise to becoming a yonko I'm afraid.
We have no idea how seasoned his crew members are whatsoever.
So the other 3 blocks were full of competitors like Chinjao, Cavendish, Bartolomeo, Bellamy etc and Block A was just fodder? Lol.
Teach himself is a NW veteran, you think he can't spot how strong you have to be to be worthy of being a Yonko's commander?
Especially since he's obsessed with power. He played a decades long scheme just to gain strong DF's, you think he's going to let a weakling be one of his commanders out of sentiment?
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I don't like to needlessly chime in like this, but really, the fact that in One Piece we have a final boss crew that consist of stupid people who depends on luck in ever other occasion when in almost every series every you get an Aizen type generic asshole who hits you with the ever so boring and overused "Just as planned" in every chance they get is another indicator that Oda writing skills are REALLY something. :P
Very true.
Teach does have a master plan, but it's oh so more shaky than the usual manga antagonist stuff, so many obstacles left to chance lol.
It really is immensely entertaining.
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lol at people talking about the final villains of the series not being strong. especially black beard when shanks basically said he was a huge threat and that he gave him those scars and he wasn't underestimating him
he told whitebeard he's aiming for your seat and by his own power he'll get there (or something around those lines)
But all will be clear with Burgess fighting soon when we see him fight strong opponents like Dimatne, Barto, and sabo and everyone who talked about him not being that strong will be like "….. well we had no way of knowing"
The Burgess hype train will soon enough be derailed by barto's barrier. Shanks also told WB that the sea monster that took his arm is also coming for his throne, but that panel was removed by oda's editor.
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A lot of the most powerful characters in the series rely heavily on DF's, this isn't a valid argument to descredit BB's rise to becoming a yonko I'm afraid.
We have no idea how seasoned his crew members are whatsoever.
So the other 3 blocks were full of competitors like Chinjao, Cavendish, Bartolomeo, Bellamy etc and Block A was just fodder? Lol.
Teach himself is a NW veteran, you think he can't spot how strong you have to be to be worthy of being a Yonko's commander?
Especially since he's obsessed with power. He played a decades long scheme just to gain strong DF's, you think he's going to let a weakling be one of his commanders out of sentiment?
The whole "He couldn't have done it without a DF" argument pisses me off to no end.
No character EVER complained about another's DF, and as far as I remember no one said something like "How do I beat this guys DF?" either
Devil Fruits are supposed to be treated as an unchangeable part of the characters, not some random death lazer gun that they stole from somewhere.
PS. I am not saying that was Vegapunks intetion from his post, it just reminded me of this issue that I wished to address for a while and I felt the need to throw it in now.
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The Burgess hype train will soon enough be derailed by barto's barrier. Shanks also told WB that the sea monster that took his arm is also coming for his throne, but that panel was removed by oda's editor.
A bit too much y'know. When you are trolling you gotta reel it in a bit so that people don't realize it too soon.
I mean you've probably just begun to jerk it, and already it's over and people will gradually stop replying to your baiting.
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A lot of the most powerful characters in the series rely heavily on DF's, this isn't a valid argument to descredit BB's rise to becoming a yonko I'm afraid.
We have no idea how seasoned his crew members are whatsoever.
So the other 3 blocks were full of competitors like Chinjao, Cavendish, Bartolomeo, Bellamy etc and Block A was just fodder? Lol.
Teach himself is a NW veteran, you think he can't spot how strong you have to be to be worthy of being a Yonko's commander?
Especially since he's obsessed with power. He played a decades long scheme just to gain strong DF's, you think he's going to let a weakling be one of his commanders out of sentiment?
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Very true.
Teach does have a master plan, but it's oh so more shaky than the usual manga antagonist stuff, so many obstacles left to chance lol.
It really is immensely entertaining.
it is a valid argument. I don't know any other yonko with 2 of the strongest df's in their possession. If he only had his original df and his crew with the level 6 prisoners, he would not be a Yoko right now. That's a fact. Also if his block had chinjao in it, I don't think it would have ended so fast or him even coming on top.
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Um Hakuba just wiped out all of Block D and he doesn't have a DF and he's not a Yonkou commander so…
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The Burgess hype train will soon enough be derailed by barto's barrier. Shanks also told WB that the sea monster that took his arm is also coming for his throne, but that panel was removed by oda's editor.
Are you serious? If anyone is going to beat Burgess in the tournament, it'll be Sabo.
Though the final will be interrupted anyway, leaving it nice and ambiguous with nobody having to lose.
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A bit too much y'know. When you are trolling you gotta reel it in a bit so that people don't realize it too soon.
I mean you've probably just begun to jerk it, and already it's over and people will gradually stop replying to your baiting.
it was a joke, I wasn't trying to bait anyone. I was just trying to make fun of the situation.
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Are you serious? If anyone is going to beat Burgess in the tournament, it'll be Sabo.
Though the final will be interrupted anyway, leaving it nice and ambiguous with nobody having to lose.
if I was Idaho I wouldn't want to have a character like Burgess take a real loss so I would have him taken off guard and lose via DQ. Barto pushing him into the water.
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it is a valid argument. I don't know any other yonko with 2 of the strongest df's in their possession. If he only had his original df and his crew with the level 6 prisoners, he would not be a Yoko right now. That's a fact. Also if his block had chinjao in it, I don't think it would have ended so fast or him even coming on top.
Lol either your trolling or you're just particularly dense.
Regardless, there's nothing to suggest that without the Gura Gura no Mi that BB wouldn't be a yonko. The only thing stated about BB's rise to that position is that he used his knowledge of WB's former territories. That's literally all we know.
Chinjao beating or even lasting long against Burgess is based on absolutely nothing lol.
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it was a joke, I wasn't trying to bait anyone. I was just trying to make fun of the situation.
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if I was Idaho I wouldn't want to have a character like Burgess take a real loss so I would have him taken off guard and lose via DQ. Barto pushing him into the water.
….riiight.
Or they could just have the factory destroyed before the final ends. Since it's below the arena it'll disrupt the final and boom, no one has to lose outright.
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The whole "He couldn't have done it without a DF" argument pisses me off to no end.
No character EVER complained about another's DF, and as far as I remember no one said something like "How do I beat this guys DF?" either
Devil Fruits are supposed to be treated as an unchangeable part of the characters, not some random death lazer gun that they stole from somewhere.
PS. I am not saying that was Vegapunks intetion from his post, it just reminded me of this issue that I wished to address for a while and I felt the need to throw it in now.
Very well said NER.
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Lol either your trolling or you're just particularly dense.Regardless, there's nothing to suggest that without the Gura Gura no Mi that BB wouldn't be a yonko. The only thing stated about BB's rise to that position is that he used his knowledge of WB's former territories. That's literally all we know.Chinjao beating or even lasting long against Burgess is based on absolutely nothing lol.
I don't troll, I just speak my mind. Anyways .done for today. But I will troll if my predictions do come true lol
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I don't troll, I just speak my mind. Anyways .done for today. But I will troll if my predictions do come true lol
So you've opted for option B : particularly dense. Good for you buddy.
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So you've opted for option B : particularly dense. Good for you buddy.
I'm almost done working my graveyard shift and I'm tired. But I will be back tomorrow at the same to give you some more op truth.
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I'm almost done working my graveyard shift and I'm tired. But I will be back tomorrow at the same to give you some more op truth.
Cool, I do kinda enjoy arguing with delusional people. It's a guilty pleasure of mine I'm afraid.
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Maybe we're talking about different limits. I think you're talking about the limit of her ability, while I read Razh's post as referring to the limit of her stamina. For the limit of her ability the timing is neither here nor there, but for the limit of her stamina it does make a difference, because she can't have been at the limit of her stamina for the whole fight: she would have run out and been too tired to continue by now if she was near the limit of her stamina on the page I linked.
You can get close to the limit and still catch breath and continue. It's about how fast the heart beat can return to normal. I have found myself panting, then running again after a minute (rugby). But after a while, you get too tired to recover.
Anyway, it was Oda who showed her panting, which means she had trouble breathing, at least for a while. And that's a good indication she was nearing her limit. Which shouldn't be a surprise, considering how long D block lasted and what her fighting style is. Oda pays attention to small details like that.
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Bartolomeo isn't the one beating Burgess
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can somebody explain the rules of the tournament? now that there is 4 left then what is next?
http://www.mangapanda.com/one-piece/702/15
this page says whoever wins will have to fight members of doflamingos family. doesn't that mean the 4 winners have to fight those guys?
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can somebody explain the rules of the tournament? now that there is 4 left then what is next?
http://www.mangapanda.com/one-piece/702/15
this page says whoever wins will have to fight members of doflamingos family. doesn't that mean the 4 winners have to fight those guys?
Might have been intended like that, but it's off now. Since Diamante is going to have to take care of it himself, it's either a brawl with 5 fighters at once, brawl with 4 winners after which the winner fights Diamante or semi-finals between 4 winners, then a final, then the all block winner fights Diamante. Not much of a fan of the last option, since it would probably take too long.
Don't know what's supposed to happen after it. It's not like Dofla had any intention of giving Mera mera to the winner. The whole tournament is a scam.
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Calling it now: The Mera Mera fruit in the colosseum is fake. The real one is hiding in the palace.
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Calling it now: The Mera Mera fruit in the colosseum is fake. The real one is hiding in the palace.
pretty sure that's exactly what is going to happen. they probably planned to lure the winner somewhere so he can collect the fruit and then turn him into a toy.
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Call me crazy if you'd like. But i imagine that Doffy doesn't give two shits about that devil fruit.
Not that he ever planned on anyone beating Diamante, but i doubt he's keeping it near himself for safe keeping or anything.
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Call me crazy if you'd like. But i imagine that Doffy doesn't give two shits about that devil fruit.
Not that he ever planned on anyone beating Diamante, but i doubt he's keeping it near himself for safe keeping or anything.
its not like logias are easy to come by and especially really powerful ones so i expect he does care about it. i imagine he would prefer somebody in his crew having it. he could also sell that devil fruit for a lot of money as well.
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Robzilla, to say Blackbeard was never strong enough to be a yonkou without his devil fruits is more up for debate than you think. Sometime ago, Blackbeard battled Shanks. From what we know, Blackbeard did not have a single Devil Fruit during this fight. Shank told Whitebeard he went all out against Blackbeard and also, Shanks points out that it was Blackbeard who gave him the three-slash scar on his face. Then, in contrast, Whitebeard did destroy Blackbeard in a one on one skirmish, and it should be noted that Whitebeard was half-dead as he curb stomped Blackbeard. The point is, Blackbeard's strength before he had devil fruits is rather ambiguous.
Regarding Burgess' power level, at least pretime skip, Burgess had to at least be as strong as the top tier supernovae. Rember, when Blackbeard captured Bonnery, he considered her and her 140000000 bounty far too weak to join the Blackbeards. This information means that Blackbeard considers Burgess significantly stronger than Bonnery. As Bonnery was too weak to join, but Burgess wasn't its safe to say Burgess should be quite a powerhouse, especially with his newly found New World experience. Personally, I feel that Burgess is right around Ace's power at this point, but that is a groundless statement.
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its not like logias are easy to come by and especially really powerful ones so i expect he does care about it. i imagine he would prefer somebody in his crew having it. he could also sell that devil fruit for a lot of money as well.
As an ex-Tenryuubito, Shichibukai and the biggest underworld broker in the world I very much doubt Doflamingo is strapped for cash. It probably cost him a mint to get his hands on in the first place. Also, Luffy only resurfaced from his training like a week ago in story time. I very much doubt Doflamingo obtained the mera mera in that time frame, even if he'd had a reason to prepare specifically for Luffy in that. He didn't actually have a reason to do that until Punk Hazard. So either Doffy doesn't have the real mera mera at all, or he doesn't care about it and the one in the Coliseum is the real one.
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Shanks got the scar about 25 years ago, since shanks flag was with three scars in the beginning, also Blackbeard joined whitebeard after he gave the scar to shanks, also about 25 years ago.
So in conclusion Shanks had the scar before Rogers execution, Oda did well to hide his face at Chapter 0, but we fans are too clever
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Always thought people put too much importance into those 3 scars. The only thing those prove is that Shanks and Blackbeard were about even when Shanks was a rookie.
In the meantime, we've seen how Blackbeard fights and it's evident he would be a lot less of a threat without his devil fruit. His defense was pretty shitty last time we saw him fight so I hope he can at least move faster now. Would want someone more versatile as Luffy's last opponent.
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Robzilla, to say Blackbeard was never strong enough to be a yonkou without his devil fruits is more up for debate than you think. Sometime ago, Blackbeard battled Shanks. From what we know, Blackbeard did not have a single Devil Fruit during this fight. Shank told Whitebeard he went all out against Blackbeard and also, Shanks points out that it was Blackbeard who gave him the three-slash scar on his face. Then, in contrast, Whitebeard did destroy Blackbeard in a one on one skirmish, and it should be noted that Whitebeard was half-dead as he curb stomped Blackbeard. The point is, Blackbeard's strength before he had devil fruits is rather ambiguous.
Well when Whitebeard struck him down he noted that his weaknesses were over-confidence and acting without thinking.
The dude stopped to gloat after he stopped his quakes, and got a face full of halberd.
It doesn't really say anything about his physical strength, or his skill in battle. But it does say alot about how exploitable his mental weaknesses could be in a battle situation. He always was of comparable strength to the other WB commanders, one could speculate that he was holding back a bit to keep himself in the shadows, but who knows really. One thing is for sure though, he had genuine power even before the darkness and quake fruit.
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Always thought people put too much importance into those 3 scars. The only thing those prove is that Shanks and Blackbeard were about even when Shanks was a rookie.
Hey WB remember when i was a rookie who didn't matter? This guy gave me these scars.
Maybe you, the strongest man in the world, should watch out for that guy eh. Sure makes sense right?
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As an ex-Tenryuubito, Shichibukai and the biggest underworld broker in the world I very much doubt Doflamingo is strapped for cash. It probably cost him a mint to get his hands on in the first place. Also, Luffy only resurfaced from his training like a week ago in story time. I very much doubt Doflamingo obtained the mera mera in that time frame, even if he'd had a reason to prepare specifically for Luffy in that. He didn't actually have a reason to do that until Punk Hazard. So either Doffy doesn't have the real mera mera at all, or he doesn't care about it and the one in the Coliseum is the real one.
I doubt Doflamingo would make a big deal to his commanders about how he has this ultimate trump card to use against Luffy if it wasn't the real Mera Mera no Mi.
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As an ex-Tenryuubito, Shichibukai and the biggest underworld broker in the world I very much doubt Doflamingo is strapped for cash. It probably cost him a mint to get his hands on in the first place. Also, Luffy only resurfaced from his training like a week ago in story time. I very much doubt Doflamingo obtained the mera mera in that time frame, even if he'd had a reason to prepare specifically for Luffy in that. He didn't actually have a reason to do that until Punk Hazard. So either Doffy doesn't have the real mera mera at all, or he doesn't care about it and the one in the Coliseum is the real one.
The point here is that theres a book where u see all the information collected about the devil fruits. Blackbeard memorized all the forms and he knows what are the strongest fruits out there. If Blackbeard knows how to take off a fruit from a body, maybe Doflamingo too, or maybe the location where the fruit will reappear. The Underworld is a good place to trade Devil Fruits or Fake ones.
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Why do you assume he is stupid? He is your typical One Piece weirdo and maybe a bit too confident in his power but I can't remember a scene where he striked me as stupid. He clearly saw through Luffy's disguise and I am pretty sure he acted like a voice of reason during the Jaya arc.
didn't he heard someone calling him strawhat?
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i don't know but am sure shanks didn't get those scars in a fair fight or he wouldn't be that mad about it
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i don't know but am sure shanks didn't get those scars in a fair fight or he wouldn't be that mad about it
…...Are you kidding me? He said explicitly that it was not a cheap shot.
Like do people not read the parts where Oda makes it absolutely clear what he meant?
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Robzilla, to say Blackbeard was never strong enough to be a yonkou without his devil fruits is more up for debate than you think. Sometime ago, Blackbeard battled Shanks. From what we know, Blackbeard did not have a single Devil Fruit during this fight. Shank told Whitebeard he went all out against Blackbeard and also, Shanks points out that it was Blackbeard who gave him the three-slash scar on his face. Then, in contrast, Whitebeard did destroy Blackbeard in a one on one skirmish, and it should be noted that Whitebeard was half-dead as he curb stomped Blackbeard. The point is, Blackbeard's strength before he had devil fruits is rather ambiguous.
Regarding Burgess' power level, at least pretime skip, Burgess had to at least be as strong as the top tier supernovae. Rember, when Blackbeard captured Bonnery, he considered her and her 140000000 bounty far too weak to join the Blackbeards. This information means that Blackbeard considers Burgess significantly stronger than Bonnery. As Bonnery was too weak to join, but Burgess wasn't its safe to say Burgess should be quite a powerhouse, especially with his newly found New World experience. Personally, I feel that Burgess is right around Ace's power at this point, but that is a groundless statement.
As Wolfwood pointed out, Teach acted overconfidently against the strongest man in the world and got punished for it, that doesn't really detract from his strength.
Shanks' account of how he got his scar should be more than enough to show Teach's abilities in battle.
Bear in mind that Teach takes essentially double damage from every attack that hits him yet he still took Whitebeard's Bisento and quake attacks, then was still able to help finish off Whitebeard and then nearly destroy Marineford.
Teach's real super power seems to be his endurance, which is completly natural, nothing to do with whatever DF's he gains.
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…...Are you kidding me? He said explicitly that it was not a cheap shot.
Like do people not read the parts where Oda makes it absolutely clear what he meant?
They seem to make a habit of it don't they?
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…...Are you kidding me? He said explicitly that it was not a cheap shot.
Like do people not read the parts where Oda makes it absolutely clear what he meant?
he wasn't careless when he got it but he also indicated it wasn't from a fight with mihawk "a fair fight"
meaning if he got it from mihawk it wouldn't be aching him !! why would he say something like that
also "do you understand what am trying to say whitebeard ?" what was that about ?
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I doubt Doflamingo would make a big deal to his commanders about how he has this ultimate trump card to use against Luffy if it wasn't the real Mera Mera no Mi.
I lean that way too. After all the hype it'd be a real damp squib if the fruit was a fake. I'm just pointing out that if it is real Doffy's probably had it in reserve for a while rather than acquiring it once he knew Luffy was coming for him since that was only the previous day in story time. Even with his connections getting his hands on it in a week at most seems difficult. That being the case, if he'd actually wanted it for its power he wouldn't have kept it in reserve; one of his crew would have already eaten it.
The point here is that theres a book where u see all the information collected about the devil fruits. Blackbeard memorized all the forms and he knows what are the strongest fruits out there. If Blackbeard knows how to take off a fruit from a body, maybe Doflamingo too, or maybe the location where the fruit will reappear. The Underworld is a good place to trade Devil Fruits or Fake ones.
I doubt Doflamingo knows the same trick as BB. Besides which we don't even know if that trick involved the reformation of the gura gura no mi itself or whether BB just transferred the power directly. It was implied that he used his underworld network to find it and I agree it's probably a good place to find fruits, but I doubt it makes it easy. Getting a single, specific fruit would take a lot of searching and luck (in that it has to find its way to someone who's gonna sell it rather than eat it). For that to fall together in the week at most that Doflamingo had to prepare for Luffy strikes me as too much of a convenience, which implies Doffy's had it in reserve for a while. If that's the case and he actually did want to keep it for its power, he would have fed it to someone already.
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he wasn't careless when he got it but he also indicated it wasn't from a fight with mihawk "a fair fight"
meaning if he got it from mihawk it wouldn't be aching him !! why would he say something like that
also "do you understand what am trying to say whitebeard ?" what was that about ?
the whole conversation was weirdHe noted that it wasn't from a duel with Mihaw, because that's who would be most likely to have caused it.
He said it was done by blackbeard and that it wasn't a cheap shot. No mention of it not being a fair fight.
And then he ask WB if he understands the implications of what he's telling him. Which is that BB is incredibly dangerous.
There was absolutely nothing strange about that conversation.
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Hey WB remember when i was a rookie who didn't matter? This guy gave me these scars.
Maybe you, the strongest man in the world, should watch out for that guy eh. Sure makes sense right?
Hey, it's Oda's narrative, not mine.
Anyway, as you say, Whitebeard handled him like he was nothing special even while half dead already. I'd think even Shanks was surprised how fast his ominous warning came true.
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He noted that it wasn't from a duel with Mihaw, because that's who would be most likely to have caused it.
He said it was done by blackbeard and that it wasn't a cheap shot. No mention of it not being a fair fight.
And then he ask WB if he understands the implications of what he's telling him. Which is that BB is incredibly dangerous.
There was absolutely nothing strange about that conversation.
his ideas are dangerous i assume not his strength back then before getting the fruits
he didn't say it wasn't a cheap shot , he said he wasn't careless maybe he had to take it for some reason , that's what i am implyingas i said he clearly is holding a grudge against blackbeard because of these scars which wouldn't be the case
if he got it in a fair fight like mihawk's duelsobviously there's something missing from that conversation or they just would have showed us what happened back then
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his ideas are dangerous i assume not his strength back then before getting the fruits
he didn't say it wasn't a cheap shot , he said he wasn't careless maybe he had to take it for some reason , that's what i am implyingas i said he clearly is holding a grudge against blackbeard because of these scars which wouldn't be the case
if he got it in a fair fight like mihawk's duelsobviously there's something missing from that conversation or they just would have showed us what happened back then
There is nothing missing. It's just your poor reading comprehension. I don't mean this as an insult, i mean it factually.
You read the text, but you don't comprehend it. Everything is there, fully covered in the text.
It's not ambigious, it's not missing something, there is not a single hint of implying anything of that which you think it does.
I'm honestly baffled by how you can misconstrue something so straight forward
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his ideas are dangerous i assume not his strength back then before getting the fruits
he didn't say it wasn't a cheap shot , he said he wasn't careless maybe he had to take it for some reason , that's what i am implyingas i said he clearly is holding a grudge against blackbeard because of these scars which wouldn't be the case
if he got it in a fair fight like mihawk's duelsobviously there's something missing from that conversation or they just would have showed us what happened back then
Shanks is warning WB about BB and the danger he could pose, by pointing out that he was able to scar HIM of all people, and with no foul play involved.
This isn't difficult.
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its not like logias are easy to come by and especially really powerful ones so i expect he does care about it. i imagine he would prefer somebody in his crew having it. he could also sell that devil fruit for a lot of money as well.
His crew has been together for more than 10 years, and they all seem to have DFs already. He's not hurting for cash, either - he's a major underworld broker, a king, and a slaveowner, who is involved in weapons and drug dealing and used to be involved in the slave trade. At this point, he's well into whatever his plan to become Pirate King is, I don't think he cares about a little extra cash or one DF - even a logia. He cares about how he can use it to advance his plans, and using it to disrupt the Alliance and lure out powerful fighters to toy-ify is likely something he considers important. Plus, he probably doesn't really think Diamante will lose.