It would be cool if we had the welsh Dragon as a devil fruit that would be something alright.
General Devil Fruit Discussion
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1. What is the exact definition of a logia? Magellan really seems like he is a logia, but is labeled as a paramecia. How many other paramecia users are there out there that people mistake for logia users?
2. Why doesn't chopper look like a human in his "human" transformation? Did he really eat a human devil fruit, or did he eat a devil fruit of a human like species like a giant or a fishman or something?
3. What if a person like Blackbeard consumes two or more zoan type fruits? Will a person with 2 zoan fruits have a total of 5 transformations like what would be expected, or many other transformations of hybrids that are inbetween, since every zoan user a their base form, their creature form, and a hybrid mix of that form. Like let's say a person consumes a cat and a dog. I know you would have a cat/human hyrbrid transformation and a dog/human hybrid transformation, but would you also have a dog/cat and several inbetween?
4. Can a liquid water devil fruit power exist? Monet and aokiji have logia water powers, so I don't see why not.
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1. What is the exact definition of a logia? Magellan really seems like he is a logia, but is labeled as a paramecia. How many other paramecia users are there out there that people mistake for logia users?
2. Why doesn't chopper look like a human in his "human" transformation? Did he really eat a human devil fruit, or did he eat a devil fruit of a human like species like a giant or a fishman or something?
3. What if a person like Blackbeard consumes two or more zoan type fruits? Will a person with 2 zoan fruits have a total of 5 transformations like what would be expected, or many other transformations of hybrids that are inbetween, since every zoan user a their base form, their creature form, and a hybrid mix of that form. Like let's say a person consumes a cat and a dog. I know you would have a cat/human hyrbrid transformation and a dog/human hybrid transformation, but would you also have a dog/cat and several inbetween?
4. Can a liquid water devil fruit power exist? Monet and aokiji have logia water powers, so I don't see why not.
Magellan can't turn himself into the poison he makes, so it lands him into the Paramecia group.
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Magellan can't turn himself into the poison he makes, so it lands him into the Paramecia group.
I see. I assumed since he could cover his body in the poison he makes and not feel effects, that he was also poison and transform into it.
So what are the guidelines of making it into the logia group?
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I see. I assumed since he could cover his body in the poison he makes and not feel effects, that he was also poison and transform into it.
So what are the guidelines of making it into the logia group?
Abilities are generally grouped as Logia when the user can turn their bodies into a certain substance as well as produce and control it.
This differentiates it from abilities like Mr.3's and Magellan's. They can produce their respective substances but can't turn their physical bodies into them.
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Abilities are generally grouped as Logia when the user can turn their bodies into a certain substance as well as produce and control it.
This differentiates it from abilities like Mr.3's and Magellan's. They can produce their respective substances but can't turn their physical bodies into them.
also,oda said that they must be related to some force of nature…unlike some of the filler logias,like the paper-paper or the candy syrup one
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I'm looking forward to seeing a blood related DF.
Something like the Noblesse.
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4. Can a liquid water devil fruit power exist? Monet and aokiji have logia water powers, so I don't see why not.
I'm fairly certain Oda said in an SBS that there would never be a water devil fruit because it would be too powerful or something.
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I'm looking forward to seeing a blood related DF.
Something like the Noblesse.
Or deadman wonderland characters or vlad from lol :p hmmm but is blood like a natural element? Its only in living beings…
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Or deadman wonderland characters or vlad from lol :p hmmm but is blood like a natural element? Its only in living beings…
Imagine zoro eats it, and makes blades like senji. 5 sword style
It means that it won't be logia, but paramecia. And since robin can replicate her body pieces it's not unimaginable imo, and it would be fun :happy: -
@mary:
Imagine zoro eats it, and makes blades like senji. 5 sword style
It means that it won't be logia, but paramecia. And since robin can replicate her body pieces it's not unimaginable imo, and it would be fun :happy:Yeah it would make sense if it was paramecia to control your own blood. I just thought that mentioning blood would mean blood logia, dunno why. Maybe cause I think Ive heard blood logia idea before :P
But certainly Zoro with 5 swords would be scary :D
ps. i tried googling if anyone made picture of zoro like that, but after putting 'zoro + senji' that got corrected into 'zoro + sanji' i sawe some really disturbing stuff :/
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Yeah it would make sense if it was paramecia to control your own blood. I just thought that mentioning blood would mean blood logia, dunno why. Maybe cause I think Ive heard blood logia idea before :P
But certainly Zoro with 5 swords would be scary :D
ps. i tried googling if anyone made picture of zoro like that, but after putting 'zoro + senji' that got corrected into 'zoro + sanji' i sawe some really disturbing stuff :/
I doubt it wouldn't be yaoi or something like that if it hadn't been corrected to Sanji and stayed as Senji :ninja:
Asura Zoro did 9 sword style, so now it would be 15 swor… Ok we are dreaming here.
Also if it were to be logia and someone was able to create blood, it would be too great for medicine.
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@mary:
I doubt it wouldn't be yaoi or something like that if it hadn't been corrected to Sanji and stayed as Senji :ninja:
Asura Zoro did 9 sword style, so now it would be 15 swor… Ok we are dreaming here.
Also if it were to be logia and someone was able to create blood, it would be too great for medicine.
At least Zoro and Senji weren't yaoi… but no zoro 5 style pic mash up either xD Asura blood Zoro with 15 swords? Zoro pirate king xD
Well it would be, but only if that logia blood guy was good guy... Maybe he would use it only for his own purposes, his crew etc only. I think blood logia could be quite cool actually ;P Considering we're probably not getting 'water' logia, then at least other fluid like blood could be nice. Im just wondering if there would be any difference between blood and water logia attacks. Isn't blood thicker and heavier? Maybe that could do something... or attack with blood transmited diseases lol.
edit: well i forgot about the obvious - controling blood of enemies. But that would be overkill...
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At least Zoro and Senji weren't yaoi… but no zoro 5 style pic mash up either xD Asura blood Zoro with 15 swords? Zoro pirate king xD
Well it would be, but only if that logia blood guy was good guy... Maybe he would use it only for his own purposes, his crew etc only. I think blood logia could be quite cool actually ;P Considering we're probably not getting 'water' logia, then at least other fluid like blood could be nice. Im just wondering if there would be any difference between blood and water logia attacks. Isn't blood thicker and heavier? Maybe that could do something... or attack with blood transmited diseases lol.
edit: well i forgot about the obvious - controling blood of enemies. But that would be overkill...
Oh there wasn't any about zoro and senji? I should make one and show you, when I'll get good in drawing :ninja:
And when you produce different groups of blood..
Dreams again xD even paramecia is so unimaginable, logia would really be overkill. -
@mary:
Oh there wasn't any about zoro and senji? I should make one and show you, when I'll get good in drawing :ninja:
And when you produce different groups of blood..
Dreams again xD even paramecia is so unimaginable, logia would really be overkill.No thanks, i can live without it ;)
Would be cool if user could suck out blood out of anyone and asymiliate it to himself even if its other group. But he would have weakness. He couldn't produce it, only use his own. Thats why he would need to restock from his enemies. That would be quite nice way to ballance it. But it would have to be villian having this power, i can't imagine good guy stealing enemies blood… unless taking just a bit lol.
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do you think we ever see a western style Dragon in One Piece.
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@kuma:
do you think we ever see a western style Dragon in One Piece.
Vegapunk's dragons weren't western style?
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@kuma:
Short answer no.
Ok then, smart guy. What is a western-style Dragon then?
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@kuma:
Short answer no.
well, those certainly not chinese/japanese style… what style are they?
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Ok then, smart guy. What is a western-style Dragon then?
Well yeah I liked to think am smarter than your average poster anyway nice of you to point it out kid. Look at welsh Dagon that's a western one, Vegapunk had a few pet dragon's but their not devil fruits users their just pets. We still haven't seen a western style dragon devil fruit users yet wonder what sort of power it will have cause no two dragons are the same let me tell you that.
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well, those certainly not chinese/japanese style… what style are they?
The pets their not devil fruit users are they.
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@kuma:
The pets their not devil fruit users are they.
But they're western style, right?
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But they're western style, right?
Not devil fruit users mate.
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I think I would like to see some titans devil fruits as well as a western style dragon.
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@kuma:
Not devil fruit users mate.
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I think I would like to see some titans devil fruits as well as a western style dragon.
Your original statement was:
@kuma:
do you think we ever see a western style Dragon in One Piece.
No mention of a DF.
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Your original statement was:
No mention of a DF.
Sine we are talking about devil fruits in a general devil discussion section, I would have thought it would be pretty obvious what I meant don't you think?
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@kuma:
do you think we ever see a western style Dragon in One Piece.
Western Style Dragon like this?
I hope we will see one of Kaido Commander has DF like this.
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Western Style Dragon like this?
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_q3Gs3Itoybw/SfeCNXT0ULI/AAAAAAAAAvo/542Ttim_6rA/s400/ooooo.bmpYes I like what it' s powers?
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@kuma:
Yes I like what it' s powers?
I'm not sure about another power, but it mentioned this dragon has Incredible armor and can breath veri hot fire.
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@kuma:
Sine we are talking about devil fruits in a general devil discussion section, I would have thought it would be pretty obvious what I meant don't you think?
Not really. Threads go off-topic frequently.
This exchange doesn't help:
Vegapunk's dragons weren't western style?
@kuma:
Short answer no.
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Western Style Dragon like this?
[qimg]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_q3Gs3Itoybw/SfeCNXT0ULI/AAAAAAAAAvo/542Ttim_6rA/s400/ooooo.bmp[/qimg]I hope we will see one of Kaido Commander has DF like this.
You're really fixated with those wierd ass monsters aren't you.
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Not really. Threads go off-topic frequently.
This exchange doesn't help:
Threads may go off topic but my post certainly wasn't, and as for the exchange I thought he was on about Vegapunk artificial devil fruit. Oh well no harm done simple case of misunderstanding.
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You're really fixated with those wierd ass monsters aren't you.
Are you feel disturbed?? I just wanted to do what was interesting to me.
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don't think he was been nasty man.
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I was just recently re-reading some old chapters. I know this is fairly old bit I'm interested in how Spandam had that sword that ate a devil fruit. I'm sure it's been discussed thoroughly so can someone give me a link to the thread or where they have already held this discussion? I felt like this was the best place to ask.
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Are you feel disturbed?? I just wanted to do what was interesting to me.
Oookay
@kuma:
don't think he was been nasty man.
You can not joke with newbies, they get all mushy and shit
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I was just recently re-reading some old chapters. I know this is fairly old bit I'm interested in how Spandam had that sword that ate a devil fruit. I'm sure it's been discussed thoroughly so can someone give me a link to the thread or where they have already held this discussion? I felt like this was the best place to ask.
I haven't seen any topic regarding this but he got it thanks to Vegapunk and his connection to the Marines
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I was just recently re-reading some old chapters. I know this is fairly old bit I'm interested in how Spandam had that sword that ate a devil fruit. I'm sure it's been discussed thoroughly so can someone give me a link to the thread or where they have already held this discussion? I felt like this was the best place to ask.
It's been discussed - but it is a proceedure that Vegapunk came up with and is likely to be included with the complete DF explination that will come with his eventual introduction.
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I haven't seen any topic regarding this but he got it thanks to Vegapunk and his connection to the Marines
Right, neither have I. I don't know why it's so interesting to me.
It's been discussed - but it is a proceedure that Vegapunk came up with and is likely to be included with the complete DF explination that will come with his eventual introduction.
Other than that everything is speculation.Hm I see. I knew it must have been discussed at some point. I hope they'll give some type of explanation. To me, something like this always seemed useful for someone like Usopp. Getting his Kuro Kabuto to eat some crazy DF, lol sounds ridiculous I know. But, if he eventually learns haki and imbued is snipes with it I guess it would be a little counterproductive.
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Right, neither have I. I don't know why it's so interesting to me.
Mr. 4 from Baroque Works had one of them too.
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I want to see someone with a strong nuclear force devil fruit that would be a very powerful fruit.
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@kuma:
I want to see someone with a strong nuclear force devil fruit that would be a very powerful fruit.
That's like saying you want to see someone with the electromagnetic force devil fruit. But we already have Enel, Kidd, Kizaru, and probably others that I'm not thinking of. Hell, any of the DFs which could be chemistry related can be said to have control over the electromagnetic force.
Now, I wouldn't be too surprised if something like an atomic fruit showed up which gave the user the power to shrink or something, but I doubt there will be any kind of "nuclear strong/weak force" devil fruit.
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That's like saying you want to see someone with the electromagnetic force devil fruit. But we already have Enel, Kidd, Kizaru, and probably others that I'm not thinking of. Hell, any of the DFs which could be chemistry related can be said to have control over the electromagnetic force.
Now, I wouldn't be too surprised if something like an atomic fruit showed up which gave the user the power to shrink or something, but I doubt there will be any kind of "nuclear strong/weak force" devil fruit.
" That like saying you want to see someone with the electromagnetic force devil fruit" errr no not really I couldn't give a shit for electromagnetic fruit or what ever, I just want to see someone with a nuclear power fruit, I see no reason why couldn't see one in the future.
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Okay, but you said "someone with a strong nuclear force devil fruit". Gravity, being kind of a class of its own, gets a devil fruit, but I don't think that a nuclear power fruit will show up in the story. It's kind of a touchy subject, you know?
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@kuma:
" That like saying you want to see someone with the electromagnetic force devil fruit" errr no not really I couldn't give a shit for electromagnetic fruit or what ever, I just want to see someone with a nuclear power fruit, I see no reason why couldn't see one in the future.
That's never going to happen.
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In SBS vol.58, Oda states that WhiteBeard's/BB's Guragura no Mi is the strongest Paramecia. With how the DF's power works in Marines Arc, i don't think there will be nuclear DF …
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Is it true that the strength levels of Zoan types are:
1. Mystical Zoan
2. Ancient Zoan
3. Carnivorous Zoan
4. Other Zoan
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Is it true that the strength levels of Zoan types are:
1. Mystical Zoan
2. Ancient Zoan
3. Carnivorous Zoan
4. Other Zoan
And where we place Artificial Zoan Vegapunk?Except for the mention of Mythical zoans being as rare or rarer than logias I don't think they mentioned any other rank.
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Why don't people manufacture sea stone gloves? I mean, we know that the world government has made nets, jail cells, and hand cuffs out of this stuff, wouldn't gloves be a a great way to take down devil fruit users (especially logia users vs people without haki)?
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Why don't people manufacture sea stone gloves? I mean, we know that the world government has made nets, jail cells, and hand cuffs out of this stuff, wouldn't gloves be a a great way to take down devil fruit users (especially logia users vs people without haki)?
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/JustEatGilligan
This link explains it and many other shows that suffer from the same premise - basically if they did it there would be no story. -
In SBS vol.58, Oda states that WhiteBeard's/BB's Guragura no Mi is the strongest Paramecia. With how the DF's power works in Marines Arc, i don't think there will be nuclear DF …
Yeah but we've had 14 other volumes sine then Oda might have chanced his mind since then, I know shock horror but it can happen you guys are right we might not see a nuclear DF but I wouldn't be too surprised if it does happen.