A Study of One Piece Animation
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Ueda direct DD precure#41 , hopefully he will not showing up in one piece in November and December
sorry for bad grammer
The ridiculously ueda hate murad started is silly and the fake Otsuka hype is just dumb, ueda has more incredible episode to his name then otsuka has in his career, call me when otsuka puts an episode even half as incredible as "I want to live" or 541 "story of fisher tiger and kola", so far otsuka is nothing special, in fact his got nothing to his name, no tetsuya endo 377 "zoro nothing happened" or katsum tokoro 312"vicking funeral" or takahiro imamura 451 "okama way sacrifice" or munehisa saki 236 (luffy vs ussop).
It's a tragedy we lost yutaka nakashima to toriko he was a great director 440 never forget.
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only some of Ueda's episodes look good, but IMO he is better then Takahiro
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Otsuka was from precure stuff until the end of smile precure (January 2013), so he only directed around 5 episodes from One piece (Im not sure) and most of them look great
607
616
521(As guest)
those episodes are have great directing IMO
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also, i watch 8/10 seasons of precure series, he is one of the best episode directors in that series (with Tanaka, Ogawa, Rie, Sakai, and Kuroda)–- Update From New Post Merge ---
Lately, Toriko start having many episodes that contain poor drawings, even Tate cannot handle the bad level of animators who working in his episodes!
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So what if you can count the number of One Piece episodes that Otsuka's directed on one hand? Each of those episodes was at bare minimum at least above-average direction and animation quality. The overall good-episode-to-bad-episode quality ratio is what we're going to remember and while it may not be a completely fair comparison overall, Otsuka's episodes have been much more consistent than ones helmed by Ueda lately.
Call me when Otsuka has his #469 black hole.
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@Galaxy:
As I don't think it was already given yet:
17/11 621 「シーザーを捕獲せよ ジェネラルキャノン炸裂」
Capture of Caesar - The General Cannon Blastedit: yeah blast seems to be better than explosion for a cannon
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Looks like Shingeki's work, it's his turn.
I hope it goes like this…
! 621 = [695(1-19)] Shigefumi Shingaki
622 = [696(1-19)] Kenji Yokoyama
623 = [697(1-19)] Atsuko Kawamura
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The ridiculously ueda hate murad started is silly and the fake Otsuka hype is just dumb, ueda has more incredible episode to his name then otsuka has in his career, call me when otsuka puts an episode even half as incredible as "I want to live" or 541 "story of fisher tiger and kola", so far otsuka is nothing special, in fact his got nothing to his name, no tetsuya endo 377 "zoro nothing happened" or katsum tokoro 312"vicking funeral" or takahiro imamura 451 "okama way sacrifice" or munehisa saki 236 (luffy vs ussop).
It's a tragedy we lost yutaka nakashima to toriko he was a great director 440 never forget.
Oh, Hahaa…How did I miss this? Sorry, have to double post.
Well, you can go back and read the threads for the recent 2 Otsuka episodes, where most people are going "Best episodes of the year". I think that is enough to justify my hype for Otsuka.
It seems to me that you are mixing up Ueda with Oda. You are mentioning main moments in the series that have to be good regardless of who is directing it, and most of the credit should go to Oda. I doubt that you would find a normal chapter directed by Ueda that was memorable, heck just tell me one of his Punk Hazard episodes that people would remember before the next ep airs. My favorite Zoro moment in the arc (#613), actually since the time skip, ended up being forgettable thanks to Ueda. Normally I like all of Naktani's episodes, but I thought #610 was meh, guess why? Ueda. He had an oppurtunity to make a good fight, but since he is only good at copy pasting from the manga, I guess there is not much to expect from his episodes. But I guess that's a good thing, because I also don't want to see his filler either, cause that is even worse.
Why did you start mentioning other great directors, ran out of good Ueda episodes?
The only reason I liked those episodes, is not because of Ueda's directing. It's because of Oda's writing, those episodes are nothing special, it's your average emotional episode. Following the manga exactly and throwing a couple of soundtracks does not mean good directing. See how Otsuka handled the last scene in #616, or how he extends the fights or filler that makes sense. Also being a good director, cool animators do you favors, you have better connections, you get better budget, and you are allowed to handle movies. I doubt we will ever see a movie directed by Ueda, I will leave it to you to guess why. And the funny thing is, Ueda have been working since the first Dragonball, I think he is older than Otsuka.
And finally, I actually hate Imammura...Ueda, I just think he is terrible sometimes.
Also, what crossword and conan__e said are good reasoning.
Lately, Toriko start having many episodes that contain poor drawings, even Tate cannot handle the bad level of animators who working in his episodes!
Yeah, I've noticed that.. Now I don't blame Toriko anymore. XD
Tate's episodes so far are very underwhelming, he is not even doing a lot of cool KA himself like he used to in One Piece, I guess that is because he have to correct more compared to a series like One Piece that he have more experience with, I really feel bad for him.
Only one ep was really nice, it was #93 it had some cool sakuga like Shida, Shishido, and Tate himself.
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Full staff
621
Script: Suga Yoshiyuki
Storyboard: Ueda Yoshihiro
Episode director: Ueda Yoshihiro
Animation director: Shingaki Shigefumi622
Script: Yonemura Shoji
Storyboard: Kodama Tetsuro (new)
Episode director: Endo Tetsuya
Animation director: Yokoyama Kenji623
Script: Nakayama Tomohiro
Storyboard: Yokoyama Kenji
Episode director: Imamura Takahiro
Animation director: Shimanuki Masahiro624
Script: Uesaka Hirohiko
Storyboard: Hosoda Masahiro
Episode director: Hosoda Masahiro
Animation director: Kawamura AtsukoNext titles (rough translation)
[11/17] 621: Capture Caesar Whatever It Takes · General Cannon Explosion
[11/24] 622: Emotional Meeting! Momonosuke and Kin'emon
[12/01] 623: Parting Regrets Time · Leaving Punk Hazard!
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Thanks archah. Close to my prediction, I guess they are leaving Isochi or someone good for #625. Good rota this month.
Ugh, Ueda so soon again. At least we have good art to look forward to in #621.
Endo to liven up the party in #622. Yokoyama is what I would expect for this kind of chapters.
#623 needs good directing towards the end, lowering expectations to the extreme.
#624, lol, finally…Hosoda is getting a good Animation Director, and most likely Shida, this should be a good episode. Can't wait!
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It's funny, you'd think Shimanuki would have swapped with Yokoyama considering Yokoyama was storyboarding #623.
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It's funny, you'd think Shimanuki would have swapped with Yokoyama considering Yokoyama was storyboarding #623.
It seems Yokoyama's animation style allows him to be spammed a lot. At least it's not as bad as before where we get Yokoyama every 5 episodes.
I really like the recent Yokoyama episodes, as long as he doesn't do action, I think he is good.
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Ueda is directing #621 and DD precure #41 in the same time o_0
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I wonder if PreCure has a longer production schedule? Most One Piece episodes feel like they are created in six weeks.
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Oh, Hahaa…How did I miss this? Sorry, have to double post.
Well, you can go back and read the threads for the recent 2 Otsuka episodes, where most people are going "Best episodes of the year". I think that is enough to justify my hype for Otsuka.
It seems to me that you are mixing up Ueda with Oda. You are mentioning main moments in the series that have to be good regardless of who is directing it, and most of the credit should go to Oda. I doubt that you would find a normal chapter directed by Ueda that was memorable, heck just tell me one of his Punk Hazard episodes that people would remember before the next ep airs. My favorite Zoro moment in the arc (#613), actually since the time skip, ended up being forgettable thanks to Ueda. Normally I like all of Naktani's episodes, but I thought #610 was meh, guess why? Ueda. He had an oppurtunity to make a good fight, but since he is only good at copy pasting from the manga, I guess there is not much to expect from his episodes. But I guess that's a good thing, because I also don't want to see his filler either, cause that is even worse.
Why did you start mentioning other great directors, ran out of good Ueda episodes?
The only reason I liked those episodes, is not because of Ueda's directing. It's because of Oda's writing, those episodes are nothing special, it's your average emotional episode. Following the manga exactly and throwing a couple of soundtracks does not mean good directing. See how Otsuka handled the last scene in #616, or how he extends the fights or filler that makes sense. Also being a good director, cool animators do you favors, you have better connections, you get better budget, and you are allowed to handle movies. I doubt we will ever see a movie directed by Ueda, I will leave it to you to guess why. And the funny thing is, Ueda have been working since the first Dragonball, I think he is older than Otsuka.
And finally, I actually hate Imammura...Ueda, I just think he is terrible sometimes.
Also, what crossword and conan__e said are good reasoning.
Yeah, I've noticed that.. Now I don't blame Toriko anymore. XD
It's cute how you think copying paste manga panels and adding random songs would mean the story would retain any of it's impact in anime form, no matter how great oda story's are, it would still require to be executed well for the story to have such impact viewers especially to be so memorable years later and also have the audiences be impact emotionally.
I start mentioning other directors to show otsuka out put still doesn't match the others yet, I don't think otsuka bad I've seen all his episode apart from 616 (last ep of one piece I watched was 611, building my back log to watch later) all good episode with only 607 being the stand out one, for him doing the filler I think credit should go to suga yoshiyuki the script writer with a long list of good original filler scene for example in 451 he had Bon clay destroy the controller for the gate of justice explaining why the marines didn't go after the escapes which wasn't the manga,if you look at is recent episodes both 607 and 616 have suga yoshiyuki credit for the script.
Otsuka is a good director but I've yet too see a bone chilling hype episode or scene from him which I 've seen the others pull off before, his first episode 521 was rather disappointing which should of been one bone chilling hype episode but turned out flat from what it could of been also that's thanks to his unusual weak music choice of playing we go with lyrics and all instead of an ost bgm, which was done in a lame manner.
About the movie part I gave 0 shits about anime movies, outside studio ghibli I think the anime movie industry is a pile of steaming feces reason I say that is thanks to anime movie scripts being phoned in rubbish just target at pleaseing targeted audiences, so I couldn't careless about who made a movie or who didn't.
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All of the episode directors for One Piece are pretty exhausted and bored with the series. Ootsuka's most recent episodes have been the most interesting because he himself expresses interest in his storyboards and direction in trying to raise the lowbar the rest of the teams now set. Kyousougiga is definitely Toei Animation's best series now despite not having too greater a budget than One Piece. Episode #5 of Kyousougiga made great use of silence and stills to create the illusion of steady progress, something a lot of Dragon Ball Z episodes used to do, too.
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618 was absolutely nothing special direction-wise and certainly did nothing to elevate his apparently low standing in terms of expectations outside of feeling "at least it was better than Deguchi." Direction was completely unremarkable in that one.
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All of the episode directors for One Piece are pretty exhausted and bored with the series. Ootsuka's most recent episodes have been the most interesting because he himself expresses interest in his storyboards and direction in trying to raise the lowbar the rest of the teams now set. Kyousougiga is definitely Toei Animation's best series now despite not having too greater a budget than One Piece. Episode #5 of Kyousougiga made great use of silence and stills to create the illusion of steady progress, something a lot of Dragon Ball Z episodes used to do, too.
You're probably right here, though I think the issue with One Piece might be more 50/50 in terms of directorial coasting vs effort. Not surprised Kyousougiga is faring better since that's such a new series compared to One Piece having 600+ episodes under its belt. Burnout is bound to happen eventually. They haven't even put much effort in attempting new filler material lately (good or bad). A series a long as this needs a fairly regular infusion of new blood to keep the animation and/or direction from stagnating too much.
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Yeah, that's basically it. Ootsuka is the only new director who doesn't just want to 'coast', but take pride in his work. Miyamoto is a poor series director who inspires little in his staff. I wish Hisada Kazuya still practiced Kanada-style, I think it would be very interesting for him to try a solo episode, which would be the sort of creativity such a long running series could use.
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I think it's mostly impossible, Hisada is CD and CAD and maybe he is busy right now to correct some episodes for blu-rays
btw, is there any episode in One Piece that animated by one animator only?
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I don't think so, but there was a Deguchi episode during Fishman Island and a few during the Sabo flashback that came close.
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I don't think so, but there was a Deguchi episode during Fishman Island and a few during the Sabo flashback that came close.
There's a few Yokoyama episodes that are solo episodes, but even then I kind of feel like those were due to resources and less for the sake of doing something special. Since the production cycle is so static I don't see why something fun like that couldn't be given a try.
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It's cute how you think copying paste manga panels and adding random songs would mean the story would retain any of it's impact in anime form, no matter how great oda story's are, it would still require to be executed well for the story to have such impact viewers especially to be so memorable years later and also have the audiences be impact emotionally.
I find it funny that a black and white manga panel can be so memorable, and can stir the audiences emotions. And yet it's harder to replicate in a better medium with the license to copy/paste.
Good Execution? talk about the few and far between when it comes to Ueda.
I start mentioning other directors to show otsuka out put still doesn't match the others yet, I don't think otsuka bad I've seen all his episode apart from 616 (last ep of one piece I watched was 611, building my back log to watch later) all good episode with only 607 being the stand out one, for him doing the filler I think credit should go to suga yoshiyuki the script writer with a long list of good original filler scene for example in 451 he had Bon clay destroy the controller for the gate of justice explaining why the marines didn't go after the escapes which wasn't the manga,if you look at is recent episodes both 607 and 616 have suga yoshiyuki credit for the script.
We are talking about the present, great directors come and go, Like Makoto Sonoda, Tsuyoshi Koga and many more.
Each one have his time, and now it's Otsuka's time, which I hope he continues to the next arc, but I doubt it.As others have mentioned before, Otsuka directed just 4 episodes, and with just 4 eps, he have shown extra effort and attention to details unlike we have seen from any Ueda episode.
I think the director decides the filler on a meeting with the script writer and then the script writer writes it. They also probably consult it with the producer(s).
http://heart.okwave.com/campaign/onepiecefilm?section=interview_directorDon't you find it weird that the filler is usually good in the Otsuka episodes, and it's terrible in the Ueda episodes.
Otsuka is a good director but I've yet too see a bone chilling hype episode or scene from him which I 've seen the others pull off before, his first episode 521 was rather disappointing which should of been one bone chilling hype episode but turned out flat from what it could of been also that's thanks to his unusual weak music choice of playing we go with lyrics and all instead of an ost bgm, which was done in a lame manner.
You are raising your expectation too high, given One Piece staff's limited resources.
#521 was great, it was his debut episode, and still managed to make a fun ep which Ueda rarely does. Only reason Yuki Hayashi and Ken Ootsuka worked on it is because of Otsuka's connections. All episodes of Otsuka so far had great staff working on it.
BTW, Loved the use of We Go! during the action. Nice touch!
About the movie part I gave 0 shits about anime movies, outside studio ghibli I think the anime movie industry is a pile of steaming feces reason I say that is thanks to anime movie scripts being phoned in rubbish just target at pleaseing targeted audiences, so I couldn't careless about who made a movie or who didn't.
Funny, it seemed like you cared…
-the only weak point in the movie was the direction Tatsuya Nagamine should never be allowed to director a one piece movie again, the silly crazy camera angles only served to hurt the movie and obscure the action.
Excellent movie thanks to Oda and Osamu Suzuki on the script and the excellent animation team.
You actually believe that the movie was good because of Oda & Suzuki and Nagamine had nothing to do with it? Why are you underestimating the director's position?
I myself was a little pissed when I heard Nagamine was directing it cause I was hoping for a more talented director, but totally changed my opinion after watching it.
He brought a great staff with him and did a great job in assigning the animators to their scenes, and kept a good balance of action, comedy and drama.
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11/24(日) トリコ#131 演出・絵コンテ:角銅博之 作画監督:舘直樹
11/20(水) 京騒戯画#6 演出:畑野森生 絵コンテ:志水淳児 作画監督:舘直樹2 episodes sakkan by tate in same week 0_o
btw, i think that driland will end soon, i hope that Kodai Watanabe will work in one piece as animator.
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Tate Naoki might only be correcting for Toriko #131. I think Kyousougiga has been in production long enough that episode #6 was probably in production weeks earlier. That or Tate is killing himself.
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2 episodes sakkan by tate in same week 0_o
btw, i think that driland will end soon, i hope that Kodai Watanabe will work in one piece as animator.
Hopefully, unless he goes back to Toriko. Also, I'm hoping to see more of Shishido, haven't heard his name since the Merry Special.
I wonder what happened to Kenji Kuroyanagi, this guy just vanished. I hope he is okay.
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I think Kyousougiga has been in production long enough that episode #6 was probably in production weeks earlier.
Pretty much this is more likely. Also, I've yet to start Kyousogiga but I've heard the first few episodes are old material, I guess it's safe to assume that they had enough time to work on the new material.
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they add all second ONA content to first five episodes. ona episodes are 5~10 minutes long, so, they add many new cuts to make one episode last for 22 minutes–- Update From New Post Merge ---
merry special's blu-ray will release an the end of this month,i cant wait!
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- Yūki Kinoshita o_0
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!source: http://kuravix.tumblr.com/post/61686963812/cereal-murder-every-important-animation
Really nice work, it would have been perfect if he added movie 6 and 9.
He got Takagi's Robin wrong. Also, wish if he used current Yokoyama. Old yokoyama used to be ugly.
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I wish making those large comparisons wasn't so hard to do. Getting the screen caps aren't the hard part, making the collage is. ~_~
I think Nakatani has really improved since those early episodes. Episode of Nami looked great.
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That collage inspired me to go and dig out from my old email account those filmstrips I was working on…what, nearly two years ago? Eh heh. I have a small backlog of recent episodes on my computer, so I might as well do some more long-overdue work on them.
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Koizumi ;;, Hideaki ;;, I miss them.
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One Piece - Strong World Sakuga MAD
Short MAD, since not much is known. Also, since funi immediately blocks videos on youtube, I will be uploading stuff to my Google drive.
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I was hoping you'd have the clip of Luffy and Shiki fighting in midair before Shiki starts drowning him.
Since the video points it out, I guess I can sort of see traces of Sushio's style in the Scarlet finisher.
I presume you'll be doing a video for Z as well, given it has more going on animation-wise?
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I was hoping you'd have the clip of Luffy and Shiki fighting in midair before Shiki starts drowning him.
Since the video points it out, I guess I can sort of see traces of Sushio's style in the Scarlet finisher.
I presume you'll be doing a video for Z as well, given it has more going on animation-wise?
I liked that scene, but the KA felt like the Yokoyama stuff, but with really great in-betweening. But I'm really not familiar with the style.
The water scene after seems to be Numata, I had to cut down the scene due to limitations. I asked Numata, but he said that he forgot about his work, he just said some Shiki action towards the end, and I showed him the part I included in the video, and said that is part of his work, because making funny, & crazy faces is his signature style.
Yeah, I was sure the latter part is not Kuroyanagi. I might ask Sushio one day, but since he wanted to be uncredited in the first place, he might just not answer.
You are damn right I will. Just after Punk Hazard MAD, which I'm almost done with, just waiting for Shida's scene.
Special animators I couldn't figure out their works in the movie:
Keisuke Masunaga
Norimoto Tokura (Amazing animator)
Hiromi Ishigami
Hiroyuki Okuno
Mitsuko Baba
Ken'ichi Fujisawa
Tohru Shigeta
Terumi Nishii
Michinori Chiba
Eiji Abiko,
Hiroya Iijima
Hiroyasu OdaWater7 layout
http://unkoer.tumblr.com/post/5540710480/gyllick-one-piece-water-7-arc
Nice, wish if Toei could release more material like this.
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http://unkoer.tumblr.com/post/64047368916/h-one-piece
http://unkoer.tumblr.com/post/38964212112/one-piece
http://unkoer.tumblr.com/post/4247269356/one-piece
http://unkoer.tumblr.com/post/37921876590/one-piece
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which one of those two is the correction?
http://unkoer.tumblr.com/post/37081324488/one-piecefor more materials
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Thanks for sharing these!! :D
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That Luffy looked really good, I thought it was Nakatani at first. It must be Shimanuki himself, it reminds me a bit of his work on Toriko #99.
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Oh wow that preview looked good, hopefully the fight is done justice in this episode.
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The animation looks fantastic. I'm so happy that they showing the fight between Doflamingo and Smoker. Is it just me or does all of Smoker's fights have above average animation?
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Thanks. Looks great, judging by the PV. Way better animated than the usual Kawamura episodes. I can't wait.
Too bad, no sign of Shida, but you never know, they must be keeping his scene a surprise. At least it seems there are other cool animators on the ep.
It's hard to say with this low quality, but smoker Vs. Don looks like Okuzawa.