Poor werewulfking, all this talk about being disappointed about borrowed powers when Baam is eventually going to get the Black March back from Yuri.
Tower of god
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Poor werewulfking, all this talk about being disappointed about borrowed powers when Baam is eventually going to get the Black March back from Yuri.
Why should she give her 13 months series away? Just because she has two of them now? Its more likely that Anak might get her Green April back at some point.
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Black March is sexist against women so Yuri was never able to use it fully. BM's spirit manifested itself to Baam becuase Baam is a guy. Yuri doesn't have to give it back to Baam but she won't be able to use its full potential if she keeps it.
Anak will most likely get Green April back but it'll probably be way later. Yuri said she'll give it back when she's strong enough to wield it.
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I personally don't see Baam ever using a weapon like a needle again. However, I do agree that Yuri will probably give it away to a male, I just think that the male has a solid chance of being Ja Wagnan once we find out what the whole "Prince of Zahard" thing is about. SIU consistently reminds us(via afterwords) that Baam isn't always the protagonist and Ja Wagnan is one of those characters who is turned into the main character every now and then. That being said I don't think anyone will get a 13 month weapon until they are either a ranker or a high ranker.
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Well SIU said Baam will be getting a weapon in one of his afterwords. It was sometime after we found out about the workshop battle. People on batato speculated he would get a weapon from the tournament or he would get Black March back. Of course it could be the usual SIU trolling and he was just referencing Baam using "thorn" as a weapon.
Depending on who wins the workshop battle, Baam might get an actual weapon after this arc is over.
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Baam doing that was pretty cool. Just killing fodder but at least it's some action. I like SIU's afterword about Baam acting according to what he himself thinks and believes, not a sense of "justice", which seems like it would be rather difficult to define in the Tower. I wonder if Anak/Androssi are going to confront Baam about his identity by the end of the workshop battle…
And RAK RAK RAK
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It's possible Rachel might be in the tournament. In Xia Xia's group, there was someone named Michelle in it. Michelle is spelled exactly like the way "Michelle" Light (Rachel's fake name) was spelled in season one.
The lastest chapter gave more credit to this theory. SIU didn't show Xia Xia's fight but had Xia Xia mention that there where two weird people in her group. Then later on when Baam is thinking about where's Rachel, it shows two robed figures behind him. Bare in mind, SIU did a similar setup earlier when Lee Ship mentioned "He wished Koon was here", he had Koon walk right past him in his Mr. Mask outfit.
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It's possible Rachel might be in the tournament. In Xia Xia's group, there was someone named Michelle in it. Michelle is spelled exactly like the way "Michelle" Light (Rachel's fake name) was spelled in season one.
The lastest chapter gave more credit to this theory. SIU didn't show Xia Xia's fight but had Xia Xia mention that there where two weird people in her group. Then later on when Baam is thinking about where's Rachel, it shows two robed figures behind him. Bare in mind, SIU did a similar setup earlier when Lee Ship mentioned "He wished Koon was here", he had Koon walk right past him in his Mr. Mask outfit.
The name "Michelle" can only be spelled like that though. But yeah, Rachel could be there - then again the weird people could be Beta and someone else.
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Well it's a weird coincidence someone named Michelle (Rachel's fake FUG name) is in a group that SIU felt the need to have point out that 2 weird people were in it. It's obvious the 2 weird people in Xia Xia group will have some significance later on in the story. If not, SIU wouldn't of had Xia Xia point them out.
One of the 2 weird people couldn't of been Beta since he was watching Baam fight. He was even shown smiling when Baam kicked the FUG fake to the stands. The Xia Xia group fight was happening the same time as the Baam fight. Plus it couldn't of been Beta since the 2 figures were shown walking away from Baam. Beta was waiting in Baam's room. Beta also wasn't wearing a robe. In Baam's room, he is wearing the same thing as what he was wearing when he passed Ran and Novick. He's wearing red shorts and a black hoodie.
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It's possible Rachel might be in the tournament. In Xia Xia's group, there was someone named Michelle in it. Michelle is spelled exactly like the way "Michelle" Light (Rachel's fake name) was spelled in season one.
The lastest chapter gave more credit to this theory. SIU didn't show Xia Xia's fight but had Xia Xia mention that there where two weird people in her group. Then later on when Baam is thinking about where's Rachel, it shows two robed figures behind him. Bare in mind, SIU did a similar setup earlier when Lee Ship mentioned "He wished Koon was here", he had Koon walk right past him in his Mr. Mask outfit.
Nice catch, I didnt noticed that.
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! Meh, that was a lot of nothing really happening. One of the slowest chapters in a while. And its strange how SIU rushed through all the other individual matches.
! For the fight: I would have betted that both might advance, but that is now impossible with the new rules. So, my money is on Anak, she has more plot relevance, Koon Ran is getting hyped too much here and Team FUG is already enough overpowered. -
SIU said in one of his afterwords that the Korean fans enjoy the team matches setups more than individual matches. So he's going to speed through them to get to the finals. It also works from a story aspect since he can keep some powers a secret for later. Ran going all out this early isn't a good sign for him winning the fight against Anak.
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! There is no way in hell that the fight is already over. It was far too one-sided and easy for Ran.
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That was kinda the point of what Koon was saying. Anak never fought someone stronger than her so she didn't know how to react strategically. Ran was basically goading her into attacking by going after her pride in her strength. If she just ran away for the 5 minutes until Ran's power ran out she could of won.
Plus, SIU already revealed Koon went all in on Ran. It's too early for Koon to get disqualified from the tournament since that'll end the FUG bet plot Koon is in. So there's no way Anak will win. Leeso's team will probably end up trying to find Hatsu and will end up in the Emile subplot.
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It's funny that Ran looks like he'll win, because some people on the Batoto forums were saying that since Ran was going all-out from the start, he was raising loser flags. :ninja:
Which is great because SIU isn't predictable like that.
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It's not about "being predictable or not" It's about good writting, everything has to be done for a purpose in the story, writting somethign a certain away just to avoid being predictable is very bad writing. Its just that a lot of writers are predictable but also lack the purpose behind what they do with certain characters/elements of the story. being predictable or not has nothing to do with anythign really.
A lot of people misuse that and twist that term(predictability) into something that fits their own fanboy/fangirl dreams for certain characters. Instead of using predictablility and LOOK at the character and see what flaws, are sticking out that the author has highlighted (SIU spent 20 pages doing that, pay attention and don't let his hard work go to waste) and how the author brings that to the realization of the character, and makes her grow as a character. This is very very important, especially given then scale of the story. . .and since he obviously does NOT want to kill her off, he HAS to make her lose, or else the way she is now, she WILL die eventually. It wouldn't make sense any other way. (imaginer her charging in to Mazino, or some other dude many many timse stronger than her like she did to Ran. . .she would be instantly destroyed.)
I'm pretty sure that Ran won, He(SIU) pretty much made it a point in telling the reader that Anak HAD to lose this match. . .
You know, her being EXTREEEMELY hot headed and all. . .also, you need to read the Author's notes at the end of each chapter.
This loss is supposed to be character development for Anak, first she had her green whatever taken from her, but formed a relationship with the the short haired princess (I keep forgetting their names) and was told by the stronger princess that she wasn't ready yet. He really hasn't shown her WHY she wasn't ready.
That was shown in this chapter.
I suggest you read it again. As there would be no meaning in this chapter if she was going to just get up again and win in some sort of miracle shounen style after all the trouble SIU went through developing her through defeat. To negate that because "the good guys/heroes/main characters always win" is stupid, and would only get him hate from the Korean readers.
Remember, The korean readers can tell when an author is pulling a kishimoto, or kubo tite, and will LET THEM KNOW about it.
This is why this story is so good. The Author knows that he has to keep his writing skills up or else. With Manga the only authors that do that are ODA, the lady who wrote FMA, The guy that wrote Negima(even if the ending sucked. . .he was basically giving the finger to the publishers who screwed him over) and Togashi (even with his frequent Hiatuses). Nearly everyone else in the Manga world only writes something good just to get famous then prolongs it out as long as possible to milk as much money as they can out of it. I would include Isayama(SnK) as one of these master Mangaka, but its waaaay too early in his career for that.
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Remember, The korean readers can tell when an author is pulling a kishimoto, or kubo tite, and will LET THEM KNOW about it.
This is why this story is so good. The Author knows that he has to keep his writing skills up or else. With Manga the only authors that do that are ODA, the lady who wrote FMA, The guy that wrote Negima and Togashi. Nearly everyone else in the Manga world only writes something good just to get famous then prolongs it out as long as possible to milk as much money as they can out of it.
I completely agree with your analysis of Anak and her story but this part of your comment is just ridiculous. There are plenty of excellently written manga out there and tons of horrible manhwa. Shonen isn't everything you know.
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Yeah, I'm aleady giving the victory to Ran, if Anak comes back it would make that long fancy speech Koon made about Anak's loss rather pointless.
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Of course it's good writing, but that doesn't mean it's not unpredictable. Seriously dude, they're not mutually exclusive. -_-
The people predicting the results weren't aware last week that we'd have some major development this week, so please excuse everyone for not reading into the future. In other words: your argument for utility makes sense after 75, but the unpredictability part was more about how he went against shonen tradition and by extension, outmaneuvered many theories from last week.
Besides your Anak discussion, I like how you assumed I didn't notice Anak's development at all when we're smacked in the face over and over with it. Again, great stuff. -_-
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So. Is this webcomic-manga any good/worth reading?
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Probably one of the best translated webtoons out there imo.
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"Good Writing"
"Predictability"
Good writing can also be predictable; if the reader has been paying attention to all the foreshadowing and pertinent cues, they would be able to somewhat predict what will happen next. That doesn't mean the writing is bad or lazy, it just means the story is easy to follow (which is really good); when writers make things too complicated, you end up with jumbled crap like Air Gear (pretty much anything by Oh Good!), 07 Ghost, and all the other manga/webtoons I've dropped over the years (and forgotten) because I couldn't understand what was going on anymore no matter how many times I tried to re-read it. Writing that confuses the (intended) reader is the worst kind of writing.
The difference between good and great writing is that the story still leaves you with wanting more and has plot twists you wouldn't have picked up on (perhaps without re-reading a few times). SIU does both of these every now and then.
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So. Is this webcomic-manga any good/worth reading?
You should definitely pick it up. It's epic.
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th first part is much easier to follow as SIU had a likeable innocent and newbie main character. That is something the second half lacks sorely. Someone who is new to the tower and therefore needs to be educated. And someone who is actually a main character instead of switching between different characters.
But still a good read only the time skip was introduced much too early, without really developing the setting to a big extent.
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I think that timeskip was just one of many to come.
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I think that timeskip was just one of many to come.
It was, but he's still right. Too early.
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There's going to be alot of timeskips in the series. We already got two timeskips just in season 2. From floor 2-20. Then floor 21-28 as Viole's old team climbed fast to reach the workshop battle. For Baam to become a ranker he needs to reach floor 134 and there's no way in hell SIU is going to go through every single floor. The beginning of season 3 will probably deal with the fallout of the workshop battle (+ princess arc with Yuri appearing that SIU teased in one of his afterwords) and then a timeskip to floor 40-50.
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Unless SIU's willing to make a 20-30 year series a la One Piece, he's going to have time skips. But with a story this large, he could honestly do that.
I remember he has more stories in the Talse Uzer world than just ToG, which according to the translations of his earlier works hints at many more towers and worlds.
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SIU said way early in the series he's planning on ToG being about 500 chapters. He wants to tell more stories in the Talse Uzer universe. The #1 ranked irregular Phantaism (sp?) in the Tower is supposed to be of the Anima race. Which are basically gods of the universe. SIU wanted to save the explaination of Anima's for another story.
Of course, ToG can last longer than 500 chapters but SIU has other stories he wants to tell. So yes, there will be many more timeskips in ToG.
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ToG is just one of the works in a long series he wants to make (Talse Ulzer) so I don't imagine it will go on for more than 350-400 chapters.
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That was kinda the point of what Koon was saying. Anak never fought someone stronger than her so she didn't know how to react strategically. Ran was basically goading her into attacking by going after her pride in her strength. If she just ran away for the 5 minutes until Ran's power ran out she could of won.
and since he obviously does NOT want to kill her off, he HAS to make her lose, or else the way she is now, she WILL die eventually. It wouldn't make sense any other way. (imaginer her charging in to Mazino, or some other dude many many timse stronger than her like she did to Ran. . .she would be instantly destroyed.)
I'm pretty sure that Ran won, He(SIU) pretty much made it a point in telling the reader that Anak HAD to lose this match. . .
You know, her being EXTREEEMELY hot headed and all. . .Its not exactly that much problematic, that Anak lost, because she was overconfident or because she couldnt assess the situation calmly. Its rather that she is technically and physically so much behind Ran. Even considering that Ran can only remain in that state for a couple of minutes, but it should have been a closer deal. Especially because Baam and very likely Bhargav are again a good level above Ran, which makes Anak just too weak.
And I dont understand the argument, how she has never faced a strong enough opponent: She was defeated and completely humiliated by that Royal Enforcer guy in Part I, who in turn was easily annihilated by Yuri. That alone should have had her shown, how much she has to grow.
Furthermore, she is travelling with Androssi, that means, that both probably had a lot of training fights against each other. And I can somehow not imagine that androssi had fallen so much back, too.
Well, either way, the new chapter should be out in a couple of hours and then we will see, how the fight ends.
It's not about "being predictable or not" It's about good writting, everything has to be done for a purpose in the story, writting somethign a certain away just to avoid being predictable is very bad writing. Its just that a lot of writers are predictable but also lack the purpose behind what they do with certain characters/elements of the story.
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As there would be no meaning in this chapter if she was going to just get up again and win in some sort of miracle shounen style after all the trouble SIU went through developing her through defeat. To negate that because "the good guys/heroes/main characters always win" is stupid, and would only get him hate from the Korean readers.Remember, The korean readers can tell when an author is pulling a kishimoto, or kubo tite, and will LET THEM KNOW about it.
Hey, I love that manwha as much as you, but no need to get all fanboyish over it. SIU had just enough bad storytelling as well. Remember the end of the Hand of Arlen, and how Horyang was killed by cassano, and how Koons old team were all assassinated and everyone else killed in the detonation of the Hand? And then it turns out that of course everyone was totally fine and well and Horyang not even seriously wounded.
Or what about the Cassano-Hatsu fight? That was pure 100% shounen BS as well.ToG is just one of the works in a long series he wants to make (Talse Ulzer) so I don't imagine it will go on for more than 350-400 chapters.
There is no way, that the series is already approaching the half-way point. We are at chapter 155, but there are still so many subplots and more are just being introduced every time. I think, they may reach the upper floor around 500, but that still leaves open, if they try to push higher. (though it seems strange, that noone ever has managed to conquer the 135th till now, but then some fresh rankers do it. But I can also picture it, that at some point either one of the dormant Irregulars or Zahard himself or someone completly new might conquer it, while Baam is still on the way to the 134th)
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New chapter is out and that was a shitty ending to that fight. SUI basically spent a whole chapter saying why Ran should win. Then has Anak do her I'm strong becuase of Willpower Shonen trope. Then instead of actually giving us a winner after 3 chapters. We get a gag ending with parakewl. That was such a waste of time since not only it was a crappy ending to the fight, it also delayed the Baam Beta talk. Which was like only a few panels as well.
Anyways shouldn't Parakewl be DQ'd since he was under the water of the arena.
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New chapter is out and that was a shitty ending to that fight. SUI basically spent a whole chapter saying why Ran should win. Then has Anak do her I'm strong becuase of Willpower Shonen trope. Then instead of actually giving us a winner after 3 chapters. We get a gag ending with parakewl. That was such a waste of time since not only it was a crappy ending to the fight, it also delayed the Baam Beta talk. Which was like only a few panels as well.
Anyways shouldn't Parakewl be DQ'd since he was under the water of the arena.
link? cant find it.
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The raw is only out now. Mangacow trans won't be up for another 6 hours.
http://http://m.comic.naver.com/webtoon/detail.nhn?titleId=183559&no=157&week=mon&listPage=1
Summary of the chapter
Baam is surprised that there's another living weapon.
Beta says he's disappointed that "perfection" doesn't know everything.
Talks about the winner of the tournament get to "bind" the weapon to the owner.
Say you should ask "it" (emile) about the prize.
Beta leaves and we go back to the fight.
Anak gets back up and they fight again destroying the arena.
They're about to do a final blow and parakewl comes from under the water and knocks both out.
Cut back to shocked Baam looking at his phone.Baam: What is the prize of the tournament?
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Thanks. Dunno how I feel about parakewl knocking them both out..as long as it makes sense story wise should be okay.
Does this mean koon is out? All of them had a choice to either bet for anak or ran, which means almost everyone lost their money.
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Koon should be out since he lost. But there's supposed to be 6 winners so they'll probably throw an exception in there somehow to get 6 winners since a majority, if not all, lost their money.
SIU finally posted the afterworld. Looks like Emilie is lying about the prize. SIU is hinting someone gave her the answer. Probably FUG.
I slept through the upload since I was too tired.
I made up my mind about this week's ending since the beginning
But I was not so sure about the middle part
So I was worried about the length and plot.
In the end, I decided to go with a fast paced movie like action in one chapter~
So came out this chapter.
I kind of feel unfinished with this
But Ran VS Anak will continue
So please wait for later ^^
About Emile, many people seem to be confused.
So I will clear a few things up.
Emile is not a 'Truth telling machine'.
It is 'Machine that answers by learning from others'
So until some teaches Emil 'This tournament's prize is Viole'
It is impossible to get that answer from Emile.
So that explains why no one was able to ask Emile and find that out.
Like Emile showed before
Emile acts differently to each person.
So giving different answers depending on who it is possible.
If Beta taught only his phone to answer 'This tournament's prize is Viole'
Emile can work that way.
It can be done with other infos, too.
Summed up
Emile is not truth teller
Nor gives info equal to all
It can be tinker with. ^^
About Emile, it will be done with next week.
So next blog post will have more talk about it.
Now I feel like the main story is starting
I hope it will be entertaining as much as you all expect.
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Read the chapter, think he handled it well. Ran's superiority was clearly implied while anak's reason for not running away were teased. The willpower aspect is common in almost all manga so not too annoyed by that. Dont see any reason why they cant just stand back up.
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Okay, this chapter was bad, probably the worst in a long time. Yes, I wanted Anak to shine a bit more, but not in this cliched way.
I kind of feel unfinished with this
But Ran VS Anak will continue
So please wait for later ^^Does this mean, that the fight is STILL not finished, or that these two characters will meet and clash again in the future? That Parakewl ending was so incredible bad and implausible, but on the other hand I dont really want that fight to continue, it has been long enough.
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It means we'll get another boring fight from them again in the future.
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So, Baam have a demon inside him? a tailed beast? :ninja:
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So, Baam have a demon inside him? a tailed beast? :ninja:
I feel like i'm loosing the "adventure" tag from this manhwa …It's been implied that Baam has some incredible power inside him since the beginning of the story. Hence, why he was sealed in a cave outside the Tower at the start. It's suggested he may have been experimented on in a manner similar to Horyang. Even Urek sensed something dangerous about Baam/Viole, and he's the most powerful Active person in the Tower.
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Really disappointing way to end this fight. I was afraid SIU would take this route when we got to see parakewl before the fight. Whatever happened to the new rule they made, that the other regulars mustn't interrupt their fight?
@Fire Fist:
It's been implied that Baam has some incredible power inside him since the beginning of the story. Hence, why he was sealed in a cave outside the Tower at the start. It's suggested he may have been experimented on in a manner similar to Horyang. Even Urek sensed something dangerous about Baam/Viole, and he's the most powerful Active person in the Tower.
I think they are talking about that thing FUG put inside Baam(might be that lobster thing), when reffering to him as a living ignition weapon. Of course, with all the clues we have about his past, it wouldn't surprise me if he was already some sort of experiment.
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Well, that sure was unpredictable… :ninja:
For the record, this might be the first chapter in a long time (or ever, who knows?) that I've been disappointed with. Above all else, SIU usually makes sense with his story, but when Parakewl comes in, we get slapstick? :/
And as disappointed as I am with Ran, I'm willing to believe SIU did this in order to build Tangsooyook as a stronger team in the team finals. And if he decides to make Viole the prize (ignoring the potential misinformation with Emile), it would fit in with the bet between Ha Jinsung+Hwa Ryun and the rest of the FUG guys.
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@Fire Fist:
It's been implied that Baam has some incredible power inside him since the beginning of the story. Hence, why he was sealed in a cave outside the Tower at the start. It's suggested he may have been experimented on in a manner similar to Horyang. Even Urek sensed something dangerous about Baam/Viole, and he's the most powerful Active person in the Tower.
From first part, I know he's different, have special ability and a person who capable to kill the tower master because he's irregular. But it's never implied the reason is because he have a demon inside him. I thought being tower master and irregular was like Transformer's The Fallen and Optimus Prime. I mean, it's the destiny for irregular to defeat tower master, that's why they're rare, like it's in their bloodline or they came from a lost tribe or something. And now the reason is because he's something like jinchuriki, someone create him.
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He's a living ignition weapon because FUG put the thorn in him aka red lobster. It has nothing to do with him being an irregular. Nothing has been revealed yet about why he was in the cave.
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He's a living ignition weapon because FUG put the thorn in him aka red lobster. It has nothing to do with him being an irregular. Nothing has been revealed yet about why he was in the cave.
You're right. I missed the part when he said something about "the experiment failed", mu mistake then…
But that's make things more confusing...
Baam is a FUG, a Slayer candidate. The FUG made him as a living ignition weapon and then they put him as Battle prize. Now the FUG send Baam to win the Battle, so they can bind him?
Are "Obey us or your friends will die" threat and having Rachel in their side not good enough to bind him? -
You're right. I missed the part when he said something about "the experiment failed", mu mistake then…
But that's make things more confusing...
Baam is a FUG, a Slayer candidate. The FUG made him as a living ignition weapon and then they put him as Battle prize. Now the FUG send Baam to win the Battle, so they can bind him?
Are "Obey us or your friends will die" threat and having Rachel in their side not good enough to bind him?As I said 4 posts above, the only thing we know for sure is that whoever wins this bet gets custody of Baam (well, that's the opposite of Dr. Phil), be it the "good" side with Tangsooyook or the dark side with the bandages guy.
The Mangacow translation of the prize goes "It allows them to permanently bind something to the winner." I'm thinking it's not specifically Baam but an item or something that lets someone control anything/anyone, because it's hard to believe that the Workshop would target Baam or that FUG would risk losing Baam to some unintended victor. What we hear from Emile may be some FUG misinformation for some motive or another.
And the big things bothering me: What side is Beta on? If he were with FUG, it wouldn't help to tell Baam all this, and if he weren't, why did he say "You'll learn about the sins you've committed against us." I know Cassano's with FUG, but how far does that affiliation extend within the researchers/Workshop? Dammit SIU…
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From what SIU is hinting at in his afterword is that Emilie can give out false information based on what people tell her. So it's possible someone told Emilie that Viole is the prize. Then Baam asked and that was the answer he got. If it is false, then the real prize is emilie.
As for what Beta says, he basically says the winner can "bind" the living weapon to the owner. So it'll basically be a contract where you have to obey your owner. If true, this can be benefital to FUG since they can more easily control him and don't have to keep relying on the we'll kill your friends blackmail they've been doing.
It seems like Cassano has something going on other than being a part of FUG. He threw Hatsu in a room with a trapdoor and someone had to of told Emilie that there was a door. Hatsu even comments that the ropes were tied in such a way anybody could've taken them off. It's possible he could be working with Leroro since you see a guard watching as Sophia is screaming about Beta then Cassano gets a text saying Beta is gone. It could be from Sophia but if some else sent the text, the next logically candiate would be the guard.
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So, Baam have a demon inside him? a tailed beast? :ninja:
The thing FUG put inside him was the lobster.
From first part, I know he's different, have special ability and a person who capable to kill the tower master because he's irregular. But it's never implied the reason is because he have a demon inside him. I thought being tower master and irregular was like Transformer's The Fallen and Optimus Prime. I mean, it's the destiny for irregular to defeat tower master, that's why they're rare, like it's in their bloodline or they came from a lost tribe or something. And now the reason is because he's something like jinchuriki, someone create him.
The destiny of an irregular isn't to beat the tower master (I'm not sure what you mean by this tbh: Zahard? Guardians? Whoever is on the last floor of the tower? The god Phantiminum?) since they've all chosen to do different things; Zahard wanted to rule the tower, Urek wants to leave it, Enryu is chilling, and Phantaminum is a god (the strongest exis) so no one knows what he wants.
I think they are talking about that thing FUG put inside Baam(might be that lobster thing), when reffering to him as a living ignition weapon.
I concur.
@Fire Fist:
It's been implied that Baam has some incredible power inside him since the beginning of the story. Hence, why he was sealed in a cave outside the Tower at the start. It's suggested he may have been experimented on in a manner similar to Horyang. Even Urek sensed something dangerous about Baam/Viole, and he's the most powerful Active person in the Tower.
Nothing was implied about his power from the beginning of the story other than the fact he has hax irregular powers like every other irregular. We don't know why he was sealed. Also the cave had the mark of Zahard and it makes little sense Zahard would own a weapon that could kill him. There's no suggestion he was experimented on, FUG just shoved him in a giant pool and stuck a red thing inside of him. Urek sensed something (lobster) but it's not dangerous to him considering he's ranked #4 and Baam is a Level E "baby".
He's a living ignition weapon because FUG put the thorn in him aka red lobster. It has nothing to do with him being an irregular. Nothing has been revealed yet about why he was in the cave.
I concur. Idk if we can label him an ignition weapon until we know what was put inside him. Also, when FUG put it in, it was a lot different from how Ilmar and Cassano got their demons.
You're right. I missed the part when he said something about "the experiment failed", mu mistake then…
But that's make things more confusing...
Baam is a FUG, a Slayer candidate. The FUG made him as a living ignition weapon and then they put him as Battle prize. Now the FUG send Baam to win the Battle, so they can bind him?
Are "Obey us or your friends will die" threat and having Rachel in their side not good enough to bind him?It's inner-FUG politics. FUG is battling itself to get control of Baam. Remember, Baam's participation in the tourny is based on a bet between Karaka's side and Ha Jinsung; Baam has to climb with the winner's choice of a team. Having Rachel means little considering Baam wants revenge against her. Also, he doesn't know Rachel is FUG.
From what SIU is hinting at in his afterword is that Emilie can give out false information based on what people tell her. So it's possible someone told Emilie that Viole is the prize. Then Baam asked and that was the answer he got. If it is false, then the real prize is emilie.
As for what Beta says, he basically says the winner can "bind" the living weapon to the owner. So it'll basically be a contract where you have to obey your owner. If true, this can be benefital to FUG since they can more easily control him and don't have to keep relying on the we'll kill your friends blackmail they've been doing.
I concur.
Also this whole "living weapon" business is ambiguous. It can mean a living ignition weapon, but also a weapon (irregular) that can kill Zahard (their greatest wish). So whoever wins gets to do with the irregular as they like (again, referring to Karaka and Jinsung factions).