Once again, you misunderstood me. Obviously the colisseum is an italian reference, but there are many as well in Spain, and it's got a spanish name, plus, it has bulls. For me it's a mix of references, although I said that the colisseum is obviously italian. Is it clear?
Oda's INSPIRATION for One Piece
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what do you guys think of the new admiral theme??
As we know, the former 3 admirals used momotaro legend.
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what do you guys think of the new admiral theme??
As we know, the former 3 admirals used momotaro legend.
As it stands Oda is probably just going to keep with the "Animal/Color" thing.
He did the primary colors for the Momotaro legend of course, so I guess for the other two he'll use secondary colors. Like we have purple for Fujitora.
Probably the remaining new Admiral will either be green or orange themed. I'm going to assume green just because it's more different from the other colors, whereas orange really isn't.
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Were the Fishman people based mostly on the Africans that were brought to the Americas and were used as slaves. Also the whole Fishertiger and Otohemi mirrors that of MLK and Malcom X if im not mistaking.
And how about the Skypiens and the natives?
While you're at it see if you can find more similarities for others such as the typical pirates and marines.
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@Croco~Boy:
Were the Fishman people based mostly on the Africans that were brought to the Americas and were used as slaves. Also the whole Fishertiger and Otohemi mirrors that of MLK and Malcom X if im not mistaking.
Otohime and Tiger being like MLK and X is a thing that could be compared to lots of different oppressed peoples.
Same deal with Fishmen = Black Americans.Just like with how he depicted the New Fishman Pirates both doing things like the KKK and Tokugawa Shogunate in terms of historical oppression.
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Garp from One Piece in his younger years!
Bluto from Popeye!
- We all know Big Mom!
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@Monkey:
As it stands Oda is probably just going to keep with the "Animal/Color" thing.
He did the primary colors for the Momotaro legend of course, so I guess for the other two he'll use secondary colors. Like we have purple for Fujitora.
Probably the remaining new Admiral will either be green or orange themed. I'm going to assume green just because it's more different from the other colors, whereas orange really isn't.
I mean who the hell cares about orange lol.Holy shit dude… You're right!!!
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Did Anyone's has posted it? Inspiration Subordinate Costume of Caesar Clown's from Monster Inc
True or Flase?
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They look alike, even the same color. Idk how popular Pixar movies are in japan though.
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Did Anyone's has posted it? Inspiration Subordinate Costume of Caesar Clown's from Monster Inc
True or Flase?They look alike, even the same color. Idk how popular Pixar movies are in japan though.
[Tell me you're both kidding.](https://www.google.com/search?q=hazmat suit&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=jLruUcq2NtDl4AOpvoHIAQ&biw=1366&bih=664&sei=jrruUe6sAtes4AOnqYDwAQ)
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Unless it's some old Disney stuff that was around when Oda was still a kid, I wouldn't look into animation for find Odas inspriations. He doesn't really seem to be into that sorta thing. He's more into movies, books, records or nature. More often than not, animation is just taking the inspiration from somewhere older, as in this case. Both have a common source. Always try to link to the orginal.
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Unless it's some old Disney stuff that was around when Oda was still a kid, I wouldn't look into animation for find Odas inspriations. He doesn't really seem to be into that sorta thing.
What on earth are you talking about lol.
He's more into movies, books, records or nature. More often than not, animation is just taking the inspiration from somewhere older, as in this case. Both have a common source. Always try to link to the orginal.
Are you saying movies and books don't also take inspiration from older things? That's crazy talk.
Also records?? What?
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So Brook is a fusion of Jimi Hendrix and Jack
True but I'd say Slash is part of the fuse, cause look at his hair and the top hat. He doesn't have Jimi Hendrix' hairstyle.
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@Monkey:
What on earth are you talking about lol.
I'm talking about how I have not seen him being inspired by the lastest Pixar movie or moe anime or indeed any title released in the last 10 years. Can you think or one?
@Monkey:Are you saying movies and books don't also take inspiration from older things? That's crazy talk.
No I don't. I'm saying Oda is more interested in them, than he is in modern anime. The sentence about the original was mostly pointing towards the real world; Nature, society and history were most ideas and themes originally stem from.
On a sidenote I believe there are also some books that have some original ideas and themes in them and that this is more rare in modern animation than it is in books. That's because animation is made by a production comitee where every idea has to find a consensus before it's put into the final work. Books are different in that respect as the author usually writes the whole thing first and then some publisher decides to approve it or not. And if one doesn't, just try the next one. It's just one person who has the creative freedom to do something that has not yet been proven to be a successfull concept by someone else.
@Monkey:
Also records?? What?
Yeah records the wrong word. I should have said musicians or maybe music in general.
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I'm talking about how I have not seen him being inspired by the lastest Pixar movie or moe anime or indeed any title released in the last 10 years. Can you think or one?
But you said "animation", not "animation from the last ten years". Big difference there.
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@Monkey:
But you said "animation", not "animation from the last ten years". Big difference there.
Maybe you should reread his posts?
"Unless it's some old Disney stuff that was around when Oda was still a kid, I wouldn't look into animation…" sounds like just what you criticise in your last post
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Maybe you should reread his posts?
"Unless it's some old Disney stuff that was around when Oda was still a kid, I wouldn't look into animation…" sounds like just what you criticise in your last postSo do you know like absolutely nothing about animation, or do you imagine pre-2003 (lol) to be equivalent to ye ancient 1930's of scarce animation as dominated by Walt Disney.
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Oda is basically a peer to me age-wise, exact same generation.
We had shitload more animation than just Old Disney stuff, heck, Oda does list Kinnikuman as one of his faves.
I think it's hard-pressed to find any men my age that wasn't into Kinnikuman back then. That shit was huge. -
Hell Ideo just walked out on panel, and is clearly based on an old Tomino animation.
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I don't know if Oda inspired himself on this to make the Jake Jake ability but that was the first thing I remembered when I read last chapter. (NSFW)
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I cant be the only one who always thought that Doflamingo seemed to be inspired by the Joker from the Batman? even before his alias was revealed (then it became sort of an apparent homage to me). I mean the constant smile, flamboyant colour scheme, and almost complete lack of fear, to the point where both characters laugh in the face of danger/chaos/destruction…
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Even though Joker from Batman became an iconic modern figure for laughing maniacs, you have to consider the roots is equally universal - the Jester on the trump card "Joker".
It is not a unique or original concept to Batman.Then consider the fact The Family ranks are playing card themed.
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Im well aware of that fact, but considering the fact that we are talking about comic book characters after all, its hard to imagine that Oda has never read some of the classic Joker stories like The Killing Joke, even if there is a literal ocean between the US and Japan…
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Im well aware of that fact, but considering the fact that we are talking about comic book characters after all, its hard to imagine that Oda has never read some of the classic Joker stories like The Killing Joke, even if there is a literal ocean between the US and Japan…
All the comparisons you made are really vague though, and especially bringing up the Killing Joke just goes to show how the more specific you get the less this makes sense, because nothing about the Killing Joke has anything to do with anything about Doflamingo.
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I don't know if Oda inspired himself on this to make the Jake Jake ability but that was the first thing I remembered when I read last chapter. (NSFW)
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what was the name of the anime? plz
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Yep it´s Satoshi Kon´s Paprika, i can´t see though how that relates to the Jake Jake no mi, especially if you know the movie
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Chinjao
jinpachi from tekken
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I don't see the similarity. They are both old, bold guys, thats about it. There a ton of those out there. I'm rather sceptical about Oda playing Tekken 5 as well… That Tekken dude looks more like Whitebeard if anything. Who of course can't be based off of him either cause Whitebeard appeard 3 years before Tekken 5.
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I don't see the similarity. They are both old, bold guys, thats about it. There a ton of those out there. I'm rather sceptical about Oda playing Tekken 5 as well… That Tekken dude looks more like Whitebeard if anything. Who of course can't be based off of him either cause Whitebeard appeard 3 years before Tekken 5.
also,we already know who WB is based off
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I don't see the similarity. They are both old, bold guys, thats about it. There a ton of those out there. I'm rather sceptical about Oda playing Tekken 5 as well… That Tekken dude looks more like Whitebeard if anything. Who of course can't be based off of him either cause Whitebeard appeard 3 years before Tekken 5.
Jinpachi
From wiki| Hobby | Spending time with Kazuya ever since he was a child (As seen in Kazuya's T5 ending)
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Don chinjao
from chapter 708 ccc translation
“It’s Sai and Boo from Kanokuni!!!”
Don: “Take your hands off of me, precious grandchildren…!!!”It's not a solid proof I know but wanted to share a thought.
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@Monkey:
All the comparisons you made are really vague though, and especially bringing up the Killing Joke just goes to show how the more specific you get the less this makes sense, because nothing about the Killing Joke has anything to do with anything about Doflamingo.
They are not vauge, they are trademark characteristics of both characters. Doflamingo even uses a smile for his symbol/jolly roger, its not just a minor character trait. The fact that both characters even use the same alias is "really vague" to you?
also, i have never stumbled upon a deck of traditional western playcards in japan on any of my trips there. Whoever brought that up, are you sure that "Joker Playing Cards" even exist in japanese culture?
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They are not vauge, they are trademark characteristics of both characters. Doflamingo even uses a smile for his symbol/jolly roger, its not just a minor character trait. The fact that both characters even use the same alias is "really vague" to you?
also, i have never stumbled upon a deck of traditional western playcards in japan on any of my trips there. Whoever brought that up, are you sure that "Joker Playing Cards" even exist in japanese culture?
Ehh… that's still pretty vague. And regardless of traditional western playcards in Japan (and I'm sure there are), and I'm especially sure that Aohige of all people would know the answer. Anyway, regardless of whatever, the Joker theme definitely plays into this, when you've got other seats in the Doflamingo household as the actual suits for western playing cards.
And I would say that, yes, those traits are "really vague" connections when you can apply it to many other things. Jesters, Comedy masques, clowns, etc.
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also, i have never stumbled upon a deck of traditional western playcards in japan on any of my trips there. Whoever brought that up, are you sure that "Joker Playing Cards" even exist in japanese culture?
Uhh…. traditional playing cards "trump cards" are exactly the same as western in Japan.
King, Queen, Joker, Ace, etc.
You can buy them ANYWHERE in Japan, commonly.I brought it up, you know, spending nearly two decades growing up in Japan.
What the hell are you talking about.
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They are not vauge, they are trademark characteristics of both characters.
No they're trademark characteristics of a long line of gleeful sneaky villains and/or plain antagonistic trickster characters. This sort of "hee hee I'm bad" thing is ancient as hell.
Ever seen a Midsummer Nights Dream? Think Puck, not a villain, but based off lots of myths himself of pretty bad nasty figures in folklore. So yeah. It was old when Shakespeare was doing it.
The alias is coincedence supreme lol, everyone's already pointed out that Dofla's crew has a playing card theme. We have two other characters named after playing cards, Diamante and Trebol, and presumably the spade guy too.also, i have never stumbled upon a deck of traditional western playcards in japan on any of my trips there. Whoever brought that up, are you sure that "Joker Playing Cards" even exist in japanese culture?
I'm sure you didn't stumble across Eminem, Man of La Mancha, or Venice while you there either lollll.
What the fuck? Do you really think Oda is bound to Japan in drawing upon influences?
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Uhh…. traditional playing cards "trump cards" are exactly the same as western in Japan.
King, Queen, Joker, Ace, etc.
You can buy them ANYWHERE in Japan, commonly.I brought it up, you know, spending nearly two decades growing up in Japan.
What the hell are you talking about.
i didnt make a statement. i simply asked a question.
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Monkey King: Thats a good point, though i think Loki is a better (and older) example than Puck ;)
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Monkey King: Thats a good point, though i think Loki is a better (and older) example than Puck ;)
My point was that there was no one character, that this archetype shows up all over the world for a long ass time. The Germanic cultures have no more trademark on it than Shakespeare.
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We know Whitebeards personality is based off of Odas former friend, thats what that quote from yellow says, and the medical apparatus as well. But are his general looks too? Must hell of an imposing sight coming into that bar
Jinpachi
From wiki| Hobby | Spending time with Kazuya ever since he was a child (As seen in Kazuya's T5 ending) |
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|Don chinjao
from chapter 708 ccc translation
“It’s Sai and Boo from Kanokuni!!!”
Don: “Take your hands off of me, precious grandchildren…!!!”It's not a solid proof I know but wanted to share a thought.
Okay, thats one more thing, i guess. It's still only a bald old man that likes his grandchildren. That's an accurate description for like 80% of all old men out there. It seems to me like this doesnt really distiguish him to the point you could say this is a likely connection.
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We know Whitebeards personality is based off of Odas former friend, thats what that quote from yellow says, and the medical apparatus as well. But are his general looks too? Must hell of an imposing sight coming into that bar
Friend? I thought Oda said he was based off some random cool old guy he saw at a bar he went to.
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@Monkey:
Friend? I thought Oda said he was based off some random cool old guy he saw at a bar he went to.
Well, not exactly random guy. He was the bar master of a bar Oda regularly visited.
The man died. Before he died, apparently he was an alcoholic, and was on tubes from drinking too much.Considering all that info, I think it's fair to assume Oda considered him a friend.
That must have been one awesome bar though.
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@Monkey:
The Germanic cultures have no more trademark on it than Shakespeare.
I did not claim that anyone have any trademark whatsoever, i just brought up another example that proves your point, that this is a classic character archetype. Why do you keep nitpicking and kicking me into the dust even when i basicly just said "touché, you are right"?
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We know Whitebeards personality is based off of Odas former friend, thats what that quote from yellow says, and the medical apparatus as well. But are his general looks too? Must hell of an imposing sight coming into that bar
maybe it was not that big or with that much muscles,but the big mustaches,the medical equipement on his body and the way he talked about alcohol were all taken from that man..or at least it's what oda said if i remember well
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Did his regular Customers become his Sons?
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Bonney's character arc is partially based on My Bonnie Lies over the Ocean.
(I bet somebody posted this already, but I didn't see it in the last bunch of pages, so…)
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I suppose this belongs in here…
In "The Strange Case of Dr.Jekyll and Mr.Hyde", the street where Hyde commits most of his crimes is "Cavendish Place". Seems to fit pretty well with Cavendish's outer beauty conflicting with his inner hatred of the worst generation.
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Bonney's character arc is partially based on My Bonnie Lies over the Ocean.
(I bet somebody posted this already, but I didn't see it in the last bunch of pages, so…)
WHAT character arc.
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How she's on the run and Akainu going after her.
I know what her namesake is, but why can't Oda have more than one influence?
Well the main problem with the influence is there's nothing there?
What connection are you even seeing. We don't even know what the deal with her is yet and why she's special, or why she was angry at the end of Marineford.
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Did his regular Customers become his Sons?
We don't know that but given customs and the general atmosphere Oda described it's highly likely that he was called 'oyaji' by customers. (not uncommon)
