I wonder if there is a chance that they will make Link have another form as a wolf…they did do it with Zelda. Of course he should also have some moves from Skyward sword also. I wonder if they are going to put awakened mewtwo also
Super Smash Bros
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I think its pretty safe to say that Link will be Skyward version this time. Unless there's another new Link revealed in the next few weeks too.
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For kid icarus i always thought magnus would be the most fitting newcomer. Palutena would be nice though. And pacman seems like a fun character to be.
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]Unless Toon Link is back or it might be replaced with the new 3DS version maybe?
Also.. Hopefully Lucas makes a comeback as well too
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Toon Link might stay because of the Wind Waker HD release for the Wiiu. I hope he stays anyway because he's my favourite character in smash :ninja:
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Tharja would be nice….but seems a bit random. Sure she's popular but this is a Smash Bros game. Not a One Piece one.
Palutena would be a welcome addition however. And would make sense considering Sakurai worked on Kid Icarus Uprising too
It would make even greater sense by the fact that the Smash games need more female characters anyway.
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I still have the deep, buried hope that they decide to turn some assist trophies into actual fighters down the line, and Lyn from Fire Emblem becomes playable. That would be insta-main.
Talk about insta-mains, if they change the pokemon trainer to a combination like Emboar/Dewott/Snivy, that would also be an insta-main. I F*CKING love Dewott.
June 11 cannot come any sooner. And now you guys got me hoping for a demo too, then I'd probably spend the day at Best Buy.
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I still have the deep, buried hope that they decide to turn some assist trophies into actual fighters down the line, and Lyn from Fire Emblem becomes playable. That would be insta-main.
Yes, please. To this day that particular fire emblem is still probably my favorite, even without all the mechanics and whatnot the games had after it. So i'd be down for some Lyn. Or Hector. …maybe Eliwood.
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So how many new comers do you guys expect in the new trailer? Melee and Brawl both had 5 I think, so I think 4 or 5 more this time around is still reasonable.
Sakurai loves to show characters that make people want to play the game. So I think Ridley, Little Mac, Megaman, Mewtwo and King K Rool are best to highlight the first reveal. My guess is 2 of these guys will be shown June 11th.
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I'm expecting 4 or 5 too.
New Fire Emblem character, Shulk, Third Party (Come on Layton or Wright!), Mewtwo and possibly Mii.
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I think a lot of people are being way too optimistic about the roster.
I expect, at most 5-7 new characters with some possibly being slight clones. That is if they keep most of the existing cast, however.
I definitely expect Lucario and possibly Ike to not be in this game
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I hope they either tweak Falco and Wolf or cut them. It's bad enough having one clone but two of the same char was just overkill.
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I at least hope we'll get somebody from Advance Wars Andy or Max (And please none of this whole they wouldn't work jazz).
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Any new Mother character and I'm happy. Jeff would be interesting, I'm sure he'd be heavily projectile based. Or even better Masked man who would be perfect. Not only is he a villain character he has a lot to work with… lightning sword, gun, psi. A lot more than most characters thats for sure. Heck, he can also use his jetpack to recover. Also, magicant needs to be a stage.
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Oooh if we are calling out fan favorite new chracaters, then i propose bandana waddle dee! (Yeah…probably still a trophy) though dedede's new smash better be masked dedede.
Ps...i dont think sakurai could fit in any more viable kirby characters into the roster.
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All I ask is that they bring in Waluigi finally. The man needs some love.
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If they're going to show a new third party character at E3, my guess would be Pac Man (or Lloyd Irving or someone from Namco-Bandai) - having Solid Snake of all people be the first example of a third party character was a major shock, but now that we know that sort of thing is going to happen again, it would probably be best to get the most obvious company (the one that's helping to develop the game) revealed.
As far as the roster goes, my guess is that there will be ten more characters than what there was in Brawl at the most. I don't see there being a massive amount of new additions, since they're trying to focus on balance from what I can recall, and my guess is that there will only be one or two new third party characters, but ten or less seems like a reasonable amount. I'd mainly like to see Little Mac playable this time around - there are some others who I'd like to see (King K. Rool, Mega Man, Krystal), but Mac is the most important one.
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Well how about Assist Trophies? Anyone you'd like to see appear there that you don't think should have an actual one?
I know they had stickers but the Elite Beat Agents/Ouendan seem to be perfect. That guy from Pusmo/Crashmo too. As well as Dillon if he don't get in properly. (still think the fact that America got a puzzle of him is a bit weird. But I did hear there is a new Dillon game coming soon anyways)
There's totally gonna be some sort of Mii involvement. Whether it be as a playable character or as an assist. A stage is bound to happen tho
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I still want a playable Golden Sun character, as unlikely as it is (Come on, badass bearded adult Isaac from Dark Dawn!).
Wonder if we'll get Pokémon Trainer again, though this time the X/Y dude with the new Kalos starters.
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I really hope they dont use a character slot for miis. That sounds like such a waste of a character slot. A mii parade assist trophy is good enough. Alternate costumes for more characters like wario got would be nice. Also adding more to stage editor would be nice. It was rather limited in brawl, heck at least allow water to be added. And for the love of god if you want to keep tripping in the game let us turn it off.
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I think it's safe to say the Miis will appear in some form. Wuhu Island as a location to fight in would be most likeliest.
Personally I would like to see them use alt costumes for more chars too. Where there's not much different and not enough to cut them out. For example Fox you could press…..I dunno. Lets say ZR, then goes to Wolf. Ness to Lucas, Marth to 'Marth' PKMN Trainer to Female PKMN trainer and so on. But I guess those would all count as new characters anyways.
Personally I don't want anymore reps from Pokemon. Replace Lucario with Mewtwo or whatever. But there's more than enough. Anything else can just appear in pokeballs.
People were speaking of having Andy or someone from Advance Wars. At first I thought it wouldn't work but what if it works like Pokemon Trainer where he's in the background and can deploy units as attacks.
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If they're going to show a new third party character at E3, my guess would be Pac Man (or Lloyd Irving or someone from Namco-Bandai) - having Solid Snake of all people be the first example of a third party character was a major shock, but now that we know that sort of thing is going to happen again, it would probably be best to get the most obvious company (the one that's helping to develop the game) revealed.
As far as the roster goes, my guess is that there will be ten more characters than what there was in Brawl at the most. I don't see there being a massive amount of new additions, since they're trying to focus on balance from what I can recall, and my guess is that there will only be one or two new third party characters, but ten or less seems like a reasonable amount. I'd mainly like to see Little Mac playable this time around - there are some others who I'd like to see (King K. Rool, Mega Man, Krystal), but Mac is the most important one.
The rumor has Pac-Man as one of the new guys.
Also Snake wasn't the main new 3rd party. It was totally Sonic.
Sure Snake was shown first, but Sonic was totally the favorite and more popular addition.The one thing I will miss about Nintendo's new E3 is the crowd reactions. I love looking at like a Twilight Princess reveal or other amazing reveals and hearing the crowd react like crazy. Smash Melee had a great reaction as well.
Sadly Brawl was first shown in a trailer at like Nintendo's booth or something, not at the Presentation. Thus not any movies showing people "OMG voices" or anything. The Brawl first trailer was freaking amazing, would have loved it to have been shown at a presentation.
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The rumor has Pac-Man as one of the new guys.
Also Snake wasn't the main new 3rd party. It was totally Sonic.
Sure Snake was shown first, but Sonic was totally the favorite and more popular addition.The one thing I will miss about Nintendo's new E3 is the crowd reactions. I love looking at like a Twilight Princess reveal or other amazing reveals and hearing the crowd react like crazy. Smash Melee had a great reaction as well.
Sadly Brawl was first shown in a trailer at like Nintendo's booth or something, not at the Presentation. Thus not any movies showing people "OMG voices" or anything. The Brawl first trailer was freaking amazing, would have loved it to have been shown at a presentation.
Agreed. The Melee reveal feels so amazing. Unfortunately this one has been two years in the making so not nearly as amazing as people are and have been expecting it since E3 2011.
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I think it's safe to say the Miis will appear in some form. Wuhu Island as a location to fight in would be most likeliest.
Personally I would like to see them use alt costumes for more chars too. Where there's not much different and not enough to cut them out. For example Fox you could press…..I dunno. Lets say ZR, then goes to Wolf. Ness to Lucas, Marth to 'Marth' PKMN Trainer to Female PKMN trainer and so on. But I guess those would all count as new characters anyways.
Personally I don't want anymore reps from Pokemon. Replace Lucario with Mewtwo or whatever. But there's more than enough. Anything else can just appear in pokeballs.
People were speaking of having Andy or someone from Advance Wars. At first I thought it wouldn't work but what if it works like Pokemon Trainer where he's in the background and can deploy units as attacks.
I want the alt costume redone as well.
Not just the boring make Link be black, blue or red.
Make one alt costume be his toon link design, one be his skyward sword design, one be his twilight princess design, and so on.
For characters that you can't do that so easily, make it like you said Fox change actual characters. I mean Wolf and Falco are essentially the same as him move wise, so they could just make it so they are. Then have his alt costumes not be alt costumes, but be other Characters from that Series like Wolf or Falco
They are just Skins, the moves woudl be the same, so It wouldn't be like they are making totally new characters. I mean heck, the skins are probably already all in the game in terms of Trohpy's or assists as it is already.
They would be able to keep more Fire Emblem characters. Such as having Ike and Roy or something be skins of one another, add Chrom to that list now. They all play similar enough you could mesh their moves to be the same.
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I thought the first Brawl trailer was at E3? I vaguely remember hearing a crowd go nuts over Pit and the Snake reveal at the end.
I'm very curious about what we'll see out of the next Smash Bros. I'm sure people are mostly going to be talking about new characters, though I honestly don't know who will get in or not. I'm especially curious about changes to current characters' movesets, as well as any new modes in the game, though it may be a little while before we hear anything on the latter.
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I thought the first Brawl trailer was at E3? I vaguely remember hearing a crowd go nuts over Pit and the Snake reveal at the end.
I'm very curious about what we'll see out of the next Smash Bros. I'm sure people are mostly going to be talking about new characters, though I honestly don't know who will get in or not. I'm especially curious about changes to current characters' movesets, as well as any new modes in the game, though it may be a little while before we hear anything on the latter.
Pretty sure I recal seeing an article post up or something on a website going "we just saw a trailer for brawl, it's playing on a loop with other trailers on the floor right now"
Pretty sure this was after the Nintendo presentation. Heck go to Youtube and type in Brawl e3 or something an try and find it during presentation. I couldn't find it ht eother day I tried.
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So how many new comers do you guys expect in the new trailer? Melee and Brawl both had 5 I think, so I think 4 or 5 more this time around is still reasonable.
Sakurai loves to show characters that make people want to play the game. So I think Ridley, Little Mac, Megaman, Mewtwo and King K Rool are best to highlight the first reveal. My guess is 2 of these guys will be shown June 11th.
The way I see it, and the way I probably overanalyze these:
Villian character:
Bowser was for Melee
Meta Knight arguably for Brawl
New one: K. Rool or Ridley. K. Rool if they want to capitalize on the revival of DKC, or Ridley if they want to capitalize on, and hype, Metroid. Interesting thing about Ridley is Super Metroid being recently on everyone's consciousness thanks to the 30 cent offer.Female character:
Peach for Melee
ZSS for Brawl
New one: Palutena. The strongest female character in recent Nintendo history, and one dear to Sakurai considering he expanded on her character in Uprising. Another option would be Lucina from Awakening.??? character:
Sheik for melee
Wario for Brawl
New One: Shulk. Ok, I got nothing here in terms of patterns, but I'd be really really surprised if Shulk isn't immediately revealed, given the zeal of Project Rainfall and the ensuing success of Xenoblade Chronicles.Retro character:
Ice Climbers for Melee
Pit for Brawl (at the time he hadn't been revived)
New one: Takamaru or Little Mac. I'm hoping Takamaru given the recent focus his game got on NintendoLand, and it would give us a ninja/samurai like character with shuriken and bombs and all that. Little Mac I also like, but what keeps him down a bit is that the Wii punch-out, although fun, wasn't exactly memorable or successful. Ideally though, we'd eventually have both.And then that's that, the new roster for Smash Bros … wait, what's that music ... ?
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Newcomer: Megaman.I understand Pac-Man makes a heckton more sense due to Namco Bandai's involvement, and I'd be ok with that. I'd be surprised if it didn't happen. But, deep down, I'm really counting on Megaman given that he's the remaining third party that has been wished for the most along with Geno. Heck, people took it for granted he'd be in Brawl. So if Nintendo wants to pull another Snake in terms of surprise factor, showing us classic Megaman in this game would be a great move.
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I think the thing that would hold Megaman back however would be Capcom themselves. I could honestly see them turning down Nintendo wanting Megaman and wanting to put Jill or Chris or Leon or someone from Resident Evil in there instead.
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Given that the Megaman games are available in the eshop, and marketed by Nintendo as being so, I think seeing a retro Megaman wouldn't be too out of left field.
But I do admit, Capcom is the weak link in all of this …
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Marth to 'Marth'
More like Chrom to Marth
! do the whole thing of them sharing fighting styles.
People were speaking of having Andy or someone from Advance Wars. At first I thought it wouldn't work but what if it works like Pokemon Trainer where he's in the background and can deploy units as attacks.
Or just make it so he can fight normally, specifically with his wrench an idea like that would make more sense as a Final Smash though.
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I thought Andy's final smash would make sense more as one that he could use to reduce his HP and increase his attack. Like the games.
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New one: K. Rool or Ridley. K. Rool if they want to capitalize on the revival of DKC,.
K.Rool wasn't in Returns though.
I thought Andy's final smash would make sense more as one that he could use to reduce his HP and increase his attack. Like the games.
Well yeah but I do wonder how the latter would work given how other players would play keep away until it runs out.
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Well yeah but I do wonder how the latter would work given how other players would play keep away until it runs out.
Well that's just the challenge.
Doesn't stop someone from still owning with the Hammer. Everyone runs like crazy from that person, but they still can mop the floor with the hammer. And the hammer inhibits your movement, jumping and speed. I imagine the final smash would not.
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Wasn't Dixie Kong originally going to be in brawl alongside toon zelda? Perhaps they will be in this ? But the one I probably want most is Geno.
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Wasn't Dixie Kong originally going to be in brawl alongside toon zelda? Perhaps they will be in this ? But the one I probably want most is Geno.
probably not. By that logic wario and dedede should've been in melee. I wn't mind if toon zelda is in it as long as she becomes tetra and not a toon shiek.
I reckon falco will be removed and wolf possiblly kept.If sonic or snake aren't in the game there movesets could be partially given to other characters, such as dillon getting the spin dash or an advance wars characters getting snakes moves
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It is odd they haven't resorted to utilizing K.Rool yet. They have pretty much enough source material to make a fully developed playable character based on this guy (assuming Rare would let them). C'mon bring us the King Pirate Scientist Boxer Kremlin Boss.
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I reckon falco will be removed and wolf possiblly kept.
Why? Falco has overall seniority, both in SSB and in their own games.
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Why? Falco has overall seniority, both in SSB and in their own games.
Mainly because falco is a direct clone of fox with just different stats. Wolf on the other hand is more fleshed out and is like a ganon-clone of fox. They may keep both but if they don't i reckon falco will be the one gone.
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So how many new comers do you guys expect in the new trailer? Melee and Brawl both had 5 I think, so I think 4 or 5 more this time around is still reasonable.
Sakurai loves to show characters that make people want to play the game. So I think Ridley, Little Mac, Megaman, Mewtwo and King K Rool are best to highlight the first reveal. My guess is 2 of these guys will be shown June 11th.
4-5. And an overall number of 9-10 newcomers, making for around 45 total playable characters (I'm actually expecting 2 characters in particular to not return)
Sakurai did state that 50 characters could be troublesome to work on in terms of balancing and such. Older characters would get the shaft while the developers would focus on the new ones. There are also not that many "deserving" characters out there.
Mario has Toad and Bowser Jr., both are deserving but I only see one of them getting in due to the current abundance of Mario characters (counting the likes of Yoshi and Wario).
I don't believe Yoshi or Wario have enough size to warrant a new character.
Donkey Kong has K. Rool and, to a lesser extent, Dixie Kong. Both suffer from the fact that DKCR was all about DK and Diddy. I like to think K. Rool is 50/50.
Zelda has… Tingle. I don't know what to think about this.
Metroid has Ridley. His chances are better than anyone else's, but I believe he's not that guaranteed.
Kirby is already perfectly represented. No more characters.
Star Fox too. No more characters.
Pokémon is just a mess. Pikachu isn't going anywhere. Jigglypuff has veteran status, but is a very divisive character. PT might change. Lucario might not return. And Mewtwo is getting relevant again because of the 6th Generation.
F-Zero has Samurai Goroh, and to a lesser extent, Black Shadow. The franchise being stagnant is not helping their chances.
Mother is not getting anymore characters. In fact, Lucas is somewhat divisive, but I don't see him going away.
Fire Emblem. Chrom has very good chances. Marth is not going anywhere. Ike is divisive and there's plenty of people clamoring for Roy's return in Japan.
Kid Icarus has good chances of getting another rep. Palutena is popular and likely.
Retro characters. Little Mac and Takamaru are both popular and likely choices.
Pikmin is fine.
Animal Crossing probably won't get a playable character again. I believe Sakurai already stated his reasons for this one.
3rd Party. Sonic is staying. I don't know if Snake will return, but I want him away due to Metal Gear being little represented in Nintendo consoles. Megaman and Pac-Man both have good chances, but I think only one of them will get in.
Franchises not yet represented. Shulk from Xenoblade has very nice chances. Isaac from Golden Sun also deserves a spot.
In the end:
A Mario character. (+1)
Maybe a DK character. (+1 or 0)
A Metroid character. (+1)
A Pokémon character. (+1)
Maybe a F-Zero character. (+1 or 0)
A FE character. (+1)
A Kid Icarus character. (+1)
Two Retro characters. (+2)
A new 3rd Party character. (+1)
Two characters from new franchises. (+2)Cut characters. (-2)
9-10. This is my take on it.
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Mainly because falco is a direct clone of fox with just different stats. Wolf on the other hand is more fleshed out and is like a ganon-clone of fox. They may keep both but if they don't i reckon falco will be the one gone.
I'm sorry, but that's pretty laughable. When it comes to variations on their physical and special attacks, they really are about equal, especially with the adjustments made for Brawl Falco. On top of that, how would it look if they got rid of the the more unique-looking character in favor of one who is pretty much a mirror image of Fox? Until there's a new SF game with characters to pick from, there's no reason to switch any of them out, much less cut one and much much less cut an ally in favor of an antagonist.
On another note, how fitting is it that Matthew Mercer, who poured all that effort into his There Will Be Brawl series, may actually BE in the next Smash as Chrom?
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i don't get why so many people think of toad for a playable character. Outside the spin offs his only game is smb2.
I'll throw out my two scents then and warning:it may be a read (this isn't what i expect but more what could be in the realm of possibility)
Mario
! I agree that bowser jr. seems like the only possible character to be added except for perhaps paper mario. If bowser jr is in it a shadow mario transformation could be possible as well.
Yoshi
! the only character i could see would be the baby bros; they'd be like ice climbers and could use moves from the mario & luigi series
Wario
! i don't think any character should be added. Waluigi could be put under this series but that would be it and might not even be the case. Brawl puts him in the mario series after all
Donkey Kong
! king k. rool seems to be the most likely although dixie kong is a possibility as well. I know the kremlings wern't in DKCR but he is still a major character in the DK universe
Zelda
! Impa seems likely but only if shiek is removed. This universe technically has a ton of possibilities with the top chancing ones being Vaati, Toon Zelda/Tetra, Ghirahim, tingle and any iteration of link if they decide to replace toon link (e.g. wolf link, masked link, etc). However i think only 1 of these is likely and i doubt link, zelda and ganondorf would be removed
Metroid
! Ridley seems the most likely but any other rep would come down to the latest game. Atm it's mother M and they could represent this with adam and give him weapons we've seen the federation use in the games. Back when prime 3 was the latest i would've said rundus. This series is really contemporary with it's choices
Kirby
! the only one i can see happening is Prince Fluff because it could allow the epic yarn style to be used but that's it. I know people say bandanna dee or daroach but i think they're unlikely. This series has it's 3 key characters
Starfox
! krystal is the only character i can think of and only because her staff gives her a unique moveset. All the others are either unimportant, under developed or not unique enough
Pokemon
! so this is a large series about battling and thus a lot of pokemon could technically be in it but because of how many there are it actually limits it because only the important relevant ones are likely to get in. So in terms of newcomers mewthree seems the most likely as it would represent the new gen, bring mewtwo back and has a movie on the way. Pkmn trainer may be replaced with a more up to date pokemon trainer with different pokemon but there would only be one. N is possible but i only say this because i realised he would fight with his pokemon rather than pokemon trainer who stands on the sideline
F-Zero
! Samurai Goroh and Black shadow and that's really it. Being a racing game a moveset is hard to think of and these seem like the only possible ones however if takamaru makes the cut i think goroh may not unless he's just a clone of takamaru which may be possible.
Mother
! So with the confirmation that no more mother games would be coming out we may not get anymore new reps. If i had to pick one it would be the masked man of mother 3 being an antagonist and being actually usable unlike porky with his chunky spider machine or demon vapour, unborn child looking, giygas
Fire Emblem
! Chrom seems the most likely being the latest rep. Other marth could replace marth but seeing as how marth is THE fire emblem character i don't see him being removed or replaced. micahia could happen or a villain mage to add some diversity and as much as i would love lyn to be in it i find it unlikely now
Kid Icarus
! Palutena, medusa, magnus, hades. There are plenty of options from this franchise due to uprising and it being made by sakurai. I don't see magnus or hades being playable but it's not impossible. Palutena and/or medusa are both popular and important to the series and so seem the most likely
Pikmin
! Olimar could be replaced with Alph due to pikmin 3 but i think an additional character is incredibly unlikely
Animal crossing
! Tom nook. It's incredibly unlikely and apparently sakurai won't have an animal crossing rep but theres a 1% chance maybe. And if there had to be anyone it's tom nook.
Retro series
! Takamaru from Murasame and little mac from punch out seem the most likely. The balloon fighter/alice could be in it as well and maybe sukopon as the new G&W and ROB but unless any of them get new games i doubt guys like lip or richard would make the cut
New series
! So here's a big thing. The nintedo franchises that could get a rep are
Golden sun, Xenoblade, Last story, Pandora's tower, Advance Wars, Magical Starsign, Dillon's rolling western, Wii series, Captain Rainbow, sin & Punishment, Starfy, Rhythm Knight, Custom Robo and tomato adventure? however the only ones which i see getting a rep are:
Golden Sun: Isaac or Matthew
Xenoblade: Shulk
Wii series: Mii
Sin & Punishment: Saki or Isa
! I wouldn't mind dillon, rainbow or the wars series getting reps but that's it3rd Party
! I don't think either characters will return. Sonic has a better chance than snake but they probably want to change these up each game. Pac-man seems the most likely but klonoa or llyod have a chance. Mega man seems like the obvious choice for capcom and the only other companies i see getting a rep would be atlus or square. Maybe a SMT character due t the crossover game and all of the recent ones being on 3ds. Square shouldn't have a final fantasy character imo. Sora could in theory but i'd prefer if either chrono or neku got in as they have more connection to nintendo than FF or kingdom hearts atm
Electroplankton, ds and Smash series
! well the former is definatley not getting a character and the ds series could be counted as a console series and so the wii series and mii's could come under this banner instead of a new franchise. If smash got it's own playable rep i wouldn't mind. I don't know how likely it is but it's not totally impossible so i've brought it up
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The only playable rep from Smash would be Master Hand. And to be honest I could see people wanting to play as him.
Personally I think the Mario, Zelda, Kirby, Pokemon and Starfox Franchises have more than enough characters. Maybe Krystal replacing Wolf or Falco for a unique moveset and an extra female. If we see any others I would want Fawful from the Mario + Luigi series. If only for something different. Personally I would rather see they adapt Luigi further to include some stuff from Luigi's Mansion. Ghiraham could be possible. I think unless we see a new Zelda title it's a given that Link will be Skyward Sword. But what about Zelda? Will she be SS too with a new unique look on Shiek?
Metroid…..I dunno. Personally I consider Samus and Zero Suit as two seperate characters. At least they're more unique than some of the others. Ridley is the only other one that could be put in. But of course the next Smash probably wont be out for another year. So if there IS a new Metroid game we could see someone else. Not that I think there would be anyone more worthwhile than Ridley.
F-Zero and Mother I consider to be both retired franchises for now. Personally I don't think we'll see anything new from them. And while I know they are both popular I don't feel it's worth bringing more from them than a series that doesn't have a rep at all.
Fire Emblem. I think it's pretty safe to say we'll see at least one new rep. Maybe two since I kinda feel the series has jumped up slightly to be a higher tier Nintendo franchise here. At least replacing both Starfox and F-Zero
Pokemon. Just replacements. Does not need an extra char at all.
Kid Icarus: Yeah. I can see Palutenia getting in because Sakurai worked on KI: U. Personally I don't know if Kid Icarus needs another rep.
Pikmin: Olimar's fine. New Pikmin types need to be includes however
Animal Crossing: Hmmm....I think it works as an assist at most. Honeslty don't see how they could incorporate this into a fighting game at all.
The Retro titles...... Previously I felt G+W, Ice Climbers. R.O.B and Pit filled that void. But Pit has been promoted to a regular imo. I can only see R.O.B being replaced myself. And that would be for Little Mac.
Spot on for the Newcomers. Although not sure if Golden Sun is a big enough name for a character myself. If they cannot consider Advance Wars I dunno why they would Golden Sun. And TBH we have more than enough guys with swords with Link, Fire Emblem, Pit etc. I dunno if we need any more.
Shulk I can see being in. But again depends on release. If it's next year I can see X's lead being there instead since that would be close to release in Japan.
Tons of other IPs to go from. EBA/Oudendan are sure to be in as Assists. Although I'm sure they could have a moveset if really wanted. Dillon is kinda mixed, I feel like Nintendo are trying to push him as their new hero. Mii. Yeah. Sorry I honestly think it's getting in. Covers to many titles like Fit, Sports, Music, etc to not be. Sin and Punishment...Not sure. I aint picked up any of their titles so kinda feel they may be too obscure? Starfy the same. Personally I would love to see the new level focus be on titles that don't make the game in terms of playable chars myself.
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On another note, how fitting is it that Matthew Mercer, who poured all that effort into his There Will Be Brawl series, may actually BE in the next Smash as Chrom?
I'm going to be honest, I had no idea who Chrom is but I want him in now just for this.
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I never played Shantae but it would be cool to see WayForward to get some sort of props from Nintendo.
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probably not. By that logic wario and dedede should've been in melee. I wn't mind if toon zelda is in it as long as she becomes tetra and not a toon shiek.
I reckon falco will be removed and wolf possiblly kept.If sonic or snake aren't in the game there movesets could be partially given to other characters, such as dillon getting the spin dash or an advance wars characters getting snakes moves
Bowser, Mewtwo and Dedede were planed in the original Smash and two of them made it into Melee. With both Dedede and Wario in Brawl I think it is very safe to say Dixie has a very high chance of making it in Smash 4. She's just as relevant now as she was then(despite barely anything new in so long) and for the fact that there are so few All Star characters left.
King Cannon, I talk big about Ridley but I know his chances are far from high. I think they are higher than they have ever been but this is still Ridley and even Sakurai thought idea of him playable was absurd, initially anyway.
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probably not. By that logic wario and dedede should've been in melee. I wn't mind if toon zelda is in it as long as she becomes tetra and not a toon shiek.
I reckon falco will be removed and wolf possiblly kept.If sonic or snake aren't in the game there movesets could be partially given to other characters, such as dillon getting the spin dash or an advance wars characters getting snakes moves
Bowser, Mewtwo and Dedede were planed in the original Smash and two of them made it into Melee. With both Dedede and Wario in Brawl I think it is very safe to say Dixie has a very high chance of making it in Smash 4. She's just as relevant now as she was then(despite barely anything new in so long) and for the fact that there are so few All Star characters left.
King Cannon, I talk big about Ridley but I know his chances are far from high. I think they are higher than they have ever been but this is still Ridley and even Sakurai thought idea of him playable was absurd, initially anyway.
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Bowser, Mewtwo and Dedede were planed in the original Smash and two of them made it into Melee. With both Dedede and Wario in Brawl I think it is very safe to say Dixie has a very high chance of making it in Smash 4. She's just as relevant now as she was then(despite barely anything new in so long) and for the fact that there are so few All Star characters left.
i guess out of the leftover 7 she does have the best chance of being added (except mewtwo) but i don't know. I just can't think of a moveset for her i guess
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I guess it's probably too late for Travis Touchdown to be a relevant playable character, though I hope he will be an assist trophy who runs around the stage slashing wildly and yelling STRAWBERRY SHORTCAKE!!!!
I reckon Lucario will be replaced with Mewthree and I'm pretty sure Sonic will stay in the game, not too sure about Snake though. I'm hoping Waluigi and Shulk make it into the roster though.
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I guess it's probably too late for Travis Touchdown to be a relevant playable character, though I hope he will be an assist trophy who runs around the stage slashing wildly and yelling STRAWBERRY SHORTCAKE!!!!
I'm about 99% confident that they NEVER even considered Travis Touchdown for obvious reasons. He would make about as much sense as Bayonetta.
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^ If Bayonetta can be a playable character in Anarchy Reigns I'd like to think she could be thrown in especially given the fact Nintendo is publishing Bayonetta 2.
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Frankly, I really would like it if third party character spots remained open for legitimately iconic characters. Megaman and Pac-Man and Sonic make sense because, damn, these characters shaped the gaming industry. Snake meant something given the weight and merit of the Metal Gear franchise.
Bayonetta, however good the game may be or however chummy they may be with Nintendo, has no historical weight in the industry as a game or as a character as of now. It makes sense for Nintendo to use their obscure characters because, well, in the end it's a Nintendo-fest. But characters that are really considerably obscure not Nintendo have no place in this game.