im guessing just 13 members. luffy plus 4 from east blue, 4 from grandline, 4 from new world.
and raftel the final saga would be like a little grandline as well so its gonna be long imo.
im guessing just 13 members. luffy plus 4 from east blue, 4 from grandline, 4 from new world.
and raftel the final saga would be like a little grandline as well so its gonna be long imo.
In my eyes all I really want is Jinbe to finally join as well as Vivi and Carue to come back.
Vivi saying that if they "ever meet again, will they ever take her as a nakama?" is completely a forshadowing to her return. The reverie will eventually play a big part in this. Arabasta will probably be officially at war with the government, and Vivi will once again have a reason to join the Straw Hats. Oda definitely did not want her to join at the time due to the fact that Robin was probably more of a priority and it would have broke the sentimentality of the Arc itself if she did back then. I just really wish Wyper and Bon Clay joined as well. Damn you Oda for making such likable characters. And I would only like Kinemon to join if his powers only stay exclusive to him and him alone.
vivi joining them will make alabasta a big target, especially cobra is bedridden….i doubt vivi abandons her people and goes pirating... maybe they will meet at the reverie, but the closest thing they could ever get is a good, old chat.
another thing i can point out about the strawhats, is its diversity...which we can losely associate which are still needed to be filled.. (not a paramout, but i think its fun to have a look at it)
every strawhats represents an important group/s in the series, and represents different kinds of personalities/ target markets.
like chopper occupies: zoans, children, giants, minkmen? etc. and ussop occupies: elbaf, skypiea (with his dials), superhero (sogeking persona), his personality is bestfriend of the protagonist.
talking a close look at it, the only things not represented by the strawhats are: marines and logia
vivi joining them will make alabasta a big target, especially cobra is bedridden….i doubt vivi abandons her people and goes pirating... maybe they will meet at the reverie, but the closest thing they could ever get is a good, old chat.
another thing i can point out about the strawhats, is its diversity...which we can losely associate which are still needed to be filled.. (not a paramout, but i think its fun to have a look at it)
every strawhats represents an important group/s in the series, and represents different kinds of personalities/ target markets.
like chopper occupies: zoans, children, giants, minkmen? etc. and ussop occupies: elbaf, skypiea (with his dials), superhero (sogeking persona), his personality is bestfriend of the protagonist.
talking a close look at it, the only things not represented by the strawhats are: marines and logia
Couldn't the same be said for Fishman Island if Jinbe joins? And supposdely its the same if he stays on the island so…..
@Superbear:
Couldn't the same be said for Fishman Island if Jinbe joins? And supposdely its the same if he stays on the island so…..
Jimbei is a pirate and lost his title as shichibukai. Vivi is the princess of a country. She represent it. They are not in the same position.
@Superbear:
Couldn't the same be said for Fishman Island if Jinbe joins? And supposdely its the same if he stays on the island so…..
Vivi is a princess representing her country, thus in case of joining the SHs it would represent her entire country working together with pirates. Jinbe on the other hand is already a pirate and a member of one of the Yonkou, namely Big Mum, so his actions are not really representative. On the other hand, if Ryuugu Kingdom would harbor Jinbe, they would actively oppose the will of the WG.
It would be hilarious if to travel with the strawhats vivi took on the persona of Sogeking
@KaW~KaW:
It would be hilarious if to travel with the strawhats vivi took on the persona of Sogeking
They already know it's Usopp. And vivi would humiliate the sniping skill of Sogeking.
@Superbear:
Couldn't the same be said for Fishman Island if Jinbe joins? And supposdely its the same if he stays on the island so…..
its not the same, alabasta got no manpower….fishman island got the man(fish)power, the strategic location and an ancient weapon at their disposal.
@Superbear:
Couldn't the same be said for Fishman Island if Jinbe joins? And supposdely its the same if he stays on the island so…..
Thats not the same, Jinbe isn't a prince or anything, thats like saying if a random guy from Alabasta joined them, the country would be attacked, heck if it worked that way, Luffy, Zoro, Usopp, Nami, etc islands/countries would have been targeted by the marines also.
Vivi is the princess of a country and yes they can work around that saying she rebelled, its just not happening, even though I love Karue :) and would like to see him with the crew again.
To me she is an honorary SH, like Karue and Bon chan.
Oh you and your Jinbe hate :D.
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They already know it's Usopp. And vivi would humiliate the sniping skill of Sogeking.
Who the WG or the SHs? Also I know it probably wouldn't happen I just thought it would be funny
The way the character has been portrayed I have a feeling Baby 5 could be a candidate…the way she will do anything men ask just SCREAMS potential crew mate. Plus she hates Dolflamingo (to some extent at least) and her ability would easily impress Luffy. Time will tell I guess but the crew should have another female.
Who would be mad if their weren't any new crew members for the rest of the series but just allies of the crew? That seems to be the direction things are headed in.
@KaW~KaW:
Who the WG or the SHs? Also I know it probably wouldn't happen I just thought it would be funny
WG and except for the dumb they know who is Sogeking.
@Foxy:
Who would be mad if their weren't any new crew members for the rest of the series but just allies of the crew? That seems to be the direction things are headed in.
I'd be perfectly satisfied with that.
Oda already struggles with giving every Strawhat proper screentime and a few of them have had their characters simplified because of it. Brook and Franky in particular.
Adding more crew members will only make the cast more and more cluttered.
I'd be perfectly satisfied with that.
Oda already struggles with giving every Strawhat proper screentime and a few of them have had their characters simplified because of it. Brook and Franky in particular.Adding more crew members will only make the cast more and more cluttered.
I completely agree, these are the nine we had right before the time skip so they're fine for the rest of the story.
Vivi and Boa are in the same boat; they can't join the SH without bringing risk to their people.
The samurai hates Pirates, so I don't see him joining either. On top of that, he has a son who he must take care of so that's out of the question. Though a Dragon Zoan would be interesting to see in battle.
I agree with the idea that having too many crew members might make it harder to keep up with them, and honestly, I don't think they should go over 12 members. In other words, Jinbei and two others at most should join some time in the future. I would prefer a Zoan type to be a future crew member but I have no idea who or what creature.
One last thing I believe: I think that whatever number of members the crew ends up with is the same number of members the Blackbeard Pirates will have as well. So far, Blackbeard has 10 and so does Luffy.
Out of water isn't Jinbe well a "boring Karate man"? All of his non-aquatic moves are pretty much the same from what I can remember. He strikes, there's a delay, then a shock wave. Of course one could say that all Sanji does is kick so whatever. Character wise I stand my ground in saying he's boring and we need no more straight men, and yes if he was a girl it would be just as bad; however I kind of see him as a mentor character like Rayleigh rather than someone who would be under Luffy. Hopefully when they show Jinbe's childhood he'll become more likeable to me because now he's really stale. Also the helmsmen thing still doesn't make any sense what about him screams sailing he takes no pride in sailing he takes pride in being a Fishman so that doesn't make any sense. As far as driving feats go Franky has him beat, Franky can drive a motorcycle, operate a giant robot, and he's the one who built the bloody boat in the first place who better to the ins and outs of the boat than the one who who built it?
Also if I remember correctly didn't Luffy, Sabo, and Ace swore not to be under one another as a subordinate? If that's true then why do people think Sabo has a chance at joining the crew, when he obviously doesn't.
Same goes for Smoker, he's the new generation's Garp, so he's not going to be a pirate or a revolutionary, he will most likely stay as a vice-admiral for the rest of the story while Coby will eventually become an admiral or this generation's Sengoku.
Still holding out for Bonney because all other candidates except Baby5 (but since she has tits that automatically makes me a pig) have been "eh" so we'll see.
Btw whats up with all this stupid made up "patterns" you guys are making up?
just let it be…thats how making predictions go...its making the thread fun imo. its a guessing thread anyways.
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The way the character has been portrayed I have a feeling Baby 5 could be a candidate…the way she will do anything men ask just SCREAMS potential crew mate. Plus she hates Dolflamingo (to some extent at least) and her ability would easily impress Luffy. Time will tell I guess but the crew should have another female.
for all we know baby5 would have a strange taste in men, meaning she would only be attracted to fuglies….and sanji or anyone in strawhat crew are none of those.
her hate for doflamingo is obviously a quirk for messing with her "lovers"
i dont see baby 5 as a strawhat material sorry.
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@Foxy:
Who would be mad if their weren't any new crew members for the rest of the series but just allies of the crew? That seems to be the direction things are headed in.
i would be perfectly fine with that.
@Superbear:
Also if I remember correctly didn't Luffy, Sabo, and Ace swore not to be under one another as a subordinate? If that's true then why do people think Sabo has a chance at joining the crew, when he obviously doesn't.
Well, its wasn't exactly an oath-swearing…but close enough. They were deterimined to become thier own captains and we know how those boys are with their determination. It was Ace that wanted abo on his crew as navigator but Sabo wanted to be a captain.
Everyone is complaining that X can't join because certain postion is filled. Well We already know who Luffy wants as his navigator is the one he already has.
Same goes for Smoker, he's the new generation's Garp, so he's not going to be a pirate or a revolutionary, he will most likely stay as a vice-admiral for the rest of the story while Coby will eventually become an admiral or this generation's Sengoku.
Glad to fins anothe who has same thoughts as me on Smoker. I've always said that Smoker is to Luffy what Garp was to Roger, if Luffy is the next 'Pirate King', then Smoker will be the next 'Hero of the Marines'.
Still holding out for Bonney because all other candidates except Baby5 (but since she has tits that automatically makes me a pig) have been "eh" so we'll see.
…Now Baby 5, I could live with her joining....and the "but since she has tits that automatically makes me a pig" doesn't apply to me since I got some of my own
Meh on Bonney. But for a different reason than most who don't want her on the crew just becasue they want another female on the crew. I rather see her out on her own and still her own captian. C'mon she's the only female supernova, let her be her own boss!
Coby with Hemempo n Smoker with Tashigi r luffy's two garps
coby–----garp
helmeppo------bogart
Luff is gonna have a big crew by the end trust me. He'll probably adopt a big group so he'll get a big crew all at once. I always thought it would be the franky family since they're perfect to be pirates.
Coby is never going to be the 'next Garp' for one good reason- Coby's goal is to become an admiral. Garp refused to become an admiral .So Coby's dream is to climb higher than the man that trained him…and we've seen Garp already had one underling that climbed higher than him (Kuzan don't know if he trained by Garp but he did work under Garp in Strong World)) so its possible that Coby will become an admiral.
Coby may become straong as Garp one day (far down the road) but he isn't the next Garp, he's the next Kuzan - an admiral with a good will
Coby is never going to be the 'next Garp' for one good reason- Coby's goal is to become an admiral. Garp refused to become an admiral .So Coby's dream is to climb higher than the man that trained him…and we've seen Garp already had one underling that climbed higher than him (Kuzan don't know if he trained by Garp but he did work under Garp in Strong World)) so its possible that Coby will become an admiral.
Coby may become straong as Garp one day (far down the road) but he isn't the next Garp, he's the next Kuzan - an admiral with a good will
is being the vice-admiral the real identity of garp though?
garp's identity in totality is a marine who seems to have a strange friendship with the pirate king.
coby = garp….if coby will be the admiral or fleet admiral is a whole other thing.
coby and luffy both got special kind of hakis
their dreams rival each other
they have a friendship and respect for each other.
almost the same age as luffy (if i can estimate, roger and garp seems to have the same age as well)
was being trained by garp...THAT same garp.
and coby actually got a bogart.....
*** the things that could be going for smoker is that prolly he will just be a vice admiral all his life and he is pursuing luffy.
but i think this is throw-off since i really think oda got other plans for smoker and tashigi (with the way things are going) and coby and helmeppo are the long-term plans at the end of the series.
its obvious with coby and helmeppo that they will stay in the marines until the end of the series.
i cant say the same for smoker and tashigi (by the way, who would tashigi be? tsuru?)
is being the vice-admiral the real identity of garp though?
garp's identity in totality is a marine who seems to have a strange friendship with the pirate king.
coby = garp….if coby will be the admiral or fleet admiral is a whole other thing.
coby and luffy both got special kind of hakis
their dreams rival each other
they have a friendship and respect for each other.
almost the same age as luffy (if i can estimate, roger and garp seems to have the same age as well)
was being trained by garp...THAT same garp.and coby actually got a bogart…..
*** the things that could be going for smoker is that prolly he will just be a vice admiral all his life and he is pursuing luffy.
but i think this is throw-off since i really think oda got other plans for smoker and tashigi (with the way things are going) and coby and helmeppo are the long-term plans at the end of the series.
its obvious with coby and helmeppo that they will stay in the marines until the end of the series.
i cant say the same for smoker and tashigi (by the way, who would tashigi be? tsuru?)
Smoker has Tashigi
is being the vice-admiral the real identity of garp though?
garp's identity in totality is a marine who seems to have a strange friendship with the pirate king.
coby = garp….if coby will be the admiral or fleet admiral is a whole other thing.
coby and luffy both got special kind of hakis
their dreams rival each other
they have a friendship and respect for each other.
almost the same age as luffy (if i can estimate, roger and garp seems to have the same age as well)
was being trained by garp...THAT same garp.and coby actually got a bogart.....
*** the things that could be going for smoker is that prolly he will just be a vice admiral all his life and he is pursuing luffy.
but i think this is throw-off since i really think oda got other plans for smoker and tashigi (with the way things are going) and coby and helmeppo are the long-term plans at the end of the series.
its obvious with coby and helmeppo that they will stay in the marines until the end of the series.
i cant say the same for smoker and tashigi (by the way, who would tashigi be? tsuru?)
The relationship Coby-Luffy is completely different from what we have seen and heard about Garp-Roger. Garp kind of hated Roger but at the same time he could not stop himself from also respecting and liking him because he was so innocent and child like but at the same time extremely fearless. Coby on the other hand does not have any contrasting feelings towards Luffy at all. He is extremely thankful towards the latter but still tries to catch up to him and also catch him since Luffy would expect that. I also do not understand what kind of significance Bogart is supposed to play in this comparison but the last time we have seen the guy is nearly 300 chapter ago. Even if you give some kind of importance to that comparison, Tashigi obviously fits that role much better than Helmeppo, even though she is a woman because both have the "right hand man/woman" feeling to them while Helmeppo is more like a companion for Coby.
It could go either way.
The Coby and Helmeppo argument is extremely flimsy since they haven't really been "chasing" the crew at all.
But then again maybe things will change for the New Age.
And even though Smoker seems like Luffy's apparent Garp right now , at any point he could just as easily become the Sengoku of this generation as well.
Who knows, it's Oda.
EDIT: Something else I notice is that there has yet to be an incident where the rivalry of Luffy and Smoker is cleary highlighted to the general public or to the Marines for that matter. Which I'm sure was not the case for Garp and Roger,their rivalry was well known, to the point where it seems as if Garp was the Marines goto guy when it came to dealing with Roger. Until something like this happens for Luffy and his assumed
Marine rivals,which ever your prefrence may be I just can't see this discussion truly finding a conclusion.
^^^ thank you. i agree. im by no means implying that coby is definitely luffy's garp ( i dont even believe the garp parallelisms anyway) but im just saying we should not be too sure/conclusive that smoker is luffy's garp.
And yet Coby n Smoker can't compete with pre skip Sentomaru.
@Formation:
And yet Coby n Smoker can't compete with pre skip Sentomaru.
I sort of think Sentomaru could be the Sengoku of this generation ,assuming Smoker is the Garp ofc.
@Superbear:
Also if I remember correctly didn't Luffy, Sabo, and Ace swore not to be under one another as a subordinate? If that's true then why do people think Sabo has a chance at joining the crew, when he obviously doesn't.
Well Ace joined a crew after he got a good beating by the captain. Maybe it's because he didn't manage to keep his winning strike but he did join a crew.
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is being the vice-admiral the real identity of garp though?
garp's identity in totality is a marine who seems to have a strange friendship with the pirate king.
coby = garp….if coby will be the admiral or fleet admiral is a whole other thing.
Garp wasn't friend with Roger.
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And I really think people should stop trying to find parallel in everything. Such thing just get on my nerve like the Roger's hat thing.
is being the vice-admiral the real identity of garp though?
garp's identity in totality is a marine who seems to have a strange friendship with the pirate king.
coby = garp….if coby will be the admiral or fleet admiral is a whole other thing.
coby and luffy both got special kind of hakis
their dreams rival each other
they have a friendship and respect for each other.
almost the same age as luffy (if i can estimate, roger and garp seems to have the same age as well)
was being trained by garp...THAT same garp.and coby actually got a bogart.....
*** the things that could be going for smoker is that prolly he will just be a vice admiral all his life and he is pursuing luffy.
but i think this is throw-off since i really think oda got other plans for smoker and tashigi (with the way things are going) and coby and helmeppo are the long-term plans at the end of the series.
its obvious with coby and helmeppo that they will stay in the marines until the end of the series.
i cant say the same for smoker and tashigi (by the way, who would tashigi be? tsuru?)
smoker being luffy's "garp" as of current story seems more likely than coby and i think (i may be wrong) u see otherwise because of ur own views on what will happen to smoker and tashigi.
the whole Vice admiral thing with smoker is something u could take into consideration but isnt the only thing.
u mention that coby and luffy has special kind of hakis… not sure what u mean here. all we've seen of coby is observation haki.
u say they have dreams that rival each other... it wasnt mentioned what garps dream was or if it even rivaled that of Gol D. roger... and imo i dont think fleet Admiral and Pirate King are rivals. luffy claims the pirate kings is top of the food chain, he can do whatever he so pleases. a fleet admiral to me isnt equivalent. (i'll save my view point on this for another post/day/topic)
u mention the friendship and respect coby and luffy has. garp chased roger for YEARS, its not too far'fetched to believe they developed a relationship through this method, the SAME method that is currently happening, where smoker himself is chasing after luffy.
u mention the age factor. u could possible be right but i dont think age is necessarily a factor.
and to finalize it u mention coby actually has a bogart. dont forget, from the very moment we got introduced to smoker to this very arc, smoker has had tashigi. his right hand (wo)man, who has also had interactions with luffy's (imo) right had man zoro. they've even played on the whole kuina situation and then with this arc their small interaction.
with all thats said and done, smoker/luffy seems to show (from what we've seen) more similar traits to garp/roger than coby/luffy does. this does NOT mean it will happen. im just saying it seems more likely than it does for coby.
I sort of think Sentomaru could be the Sengoku of this generation ,assuming Smoker is the Garp ofc.
Hard to say because of where he stands in the Marines right now strength wise. He did have Haki pre skip but he just like Bogart never had a fight on screen to judge his strength.
Not enough feats but I wouldn't be surprised if he has Admiral level strength, he is a unique character for sure.
I really wish people wouldn't think that Luffy needs a relationship which is an exact clone of Roger and Garp's.
Luffy is likely to have a main Marine rival, but that doesn't mean they need to have exactly the same relationship, including rank and personality.
I think Koby is far more likely to be Luffy's main marine rival. I've gone into much greater detail about this in the past. Luffy doesn't need two "Garps"…in fact that would be worse for the story in my opinion to have two characters fill the same role. Koby is an idealist and I see him sticking with the Marines til the very end, but Smoker has always bucked the system and gone his own way. If true justice necessitates a split, I easily see him leaving the marines even if his goal is always to return some day once the organization is reformed / restructured.
As for Vivi, I posted a theory on page 89. Yes, in her current situation (as far as we knew at the end of the Alabasta arc) it may hurt her country for her to join pirates. She can't join as of volume 23. However, her main concern was that she personally wanted to be with her people. Vivi never directly stated that leaving Alabasta to sail with Luffy would make the Gov. turn on her country. A rogue princess wouldn't make the World Gov. turn on her. It's not really the same situation as Jimbei. When we talk about Jimbei hurting the Fishmen / Merpeople we refer to his STAYING ON THE ISLAND. This would give the World Gov. the impression that the fishmen are sheltering a notorious criminal. If Vivi left of her own volition, there's really no reason that Alabasta would be sanctioned. The concern for Vivi was that she could not return to her country as it's princess if she left to be a pirate. Her selfish desire was to sail with Luffy. Her responsibility was to remain and help take care of her country. However, as I stated in my theory (page 89), I believe her situation could change, thus necessitating she leave. It's just a theory of course, but I still believe she's going to be an important character in the future.
I bet if I came here a few years ago and said Ace n Luffy are not blood brothers, people will argue and say its not true until Oda showed us there flashback story. Same thing is happening now- HOW ARE y'all so sure that Roger and Garp wasn't friends when they were kids or young?? I will be laughing my ass of when Oda shows flashback of young Roger arguing with Garp(maybe it will be when Shanks is telling Luffy more about his captain Roger), Oda hasn't shown us young Garp story maybe is cuz it has spoiler of Garp n Roger..
So according to y'all Garp got interested in Roger when the Buggy of then tried to execute Roger and Roger was smiling which pick up Garp's interest?? Lmao me I see both as friends at a young age with Roger trying to be a pirate and Garp trying to catch criminals.
So according to y'all Garp got interested in Roger when the Buggy of then tried to execute Roger and Roger was smiling which pick up Garp's interest?? Lmao me I see both as friends at a young age with Roger trying to be a pirate and Garp trying to catch criminals.
No he was just frustrate about the fact he couldn't catch that criminal and dedicated his life to that goal and failed. It's as simple. And the way he asked for him to take of the child as good opponent is proof enough for me that they weren't acquaintance in the past.
I can see Jinbe dying before joining SH, maybe at the hands of Big Mom which enrages luffy, and so on. So not him. I think Kinemon will be joining, the only time he's asked some to join him and they havent is Jinbe and Vivi who are considered nakama anyway 'and said they would join later. The only other case I can remember is a zombie at thriller bark but SH's may have interrupted luffy while he was asking. Yes I know he asked Kinemon's legs but he's a likeable guy and could be a valuable member (which, let's face it always happens)
Even if Roger and Garp weren't friends (I think we know barely anything about their relationship so this is pretty much impossible to predict in any way) I would say they were at least acquainted before Roger asked Garp to raise Ace. They're both D's and I would think they had crossed paths at least several times in the past, quite possibly more.
Uh, so many people want to make exact parallels, but isn't the whole point of Whitebeard's speech and Luffy's journey the fact Luffy will achieve something that Gold Roger could NOT?
If WB's ominous speech comes to fruition, the WG's foundation may be shaken to its core by the end of the series, and whomever are at the top echelons of Marines by the end of the series may no longer be antagonists to Straw Hats.
I can see Jinbe dying before joining SH, maybe at the hands of Big Mom which enrages luffy, and so on. So not him. I think Kinemon will be joining, the only time he's asked some to join him and they havent is Jinbe and Vivi who are considered nakama anyway 'and said they would join later. The only other case I can remember is a zombie at thriller bark but SH's may have interrupted luffy while he was asking. Yes I know he asked Kinemon's legs but he's a likeable guy and could be a valuable member (which, let's face it always happens)
People don't die in One Piece.
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@Vongola_Boss_XI:
Even if Roger and Garp weren't friends (I think we know barely anything about their relationship so this is pretty much impossible to predict in any way) I would say they were at least acquainted before Roger asked Garp to raise Ace. They're both D's and I would think they had crossed paths at least several times in the past, quite possibly more.
Why does two people having same name should mean the knew each other as child?
Nowhere in my post do I mention them being friends as children. I just said that they were likely acquainted and crossed paths on several occasions. Garp was said to have cornered Roger many times if I recall correctly. The nature of their relationship is a big question mark. We just don't know. The fact that they're both D's I think is worth mentioning since Roger knew what the D means. While Garp doesn't seem to know, I still feel like just as in Luffy's time, the D's are destined to cross paths.
If you read my post on the previous page, I'm in agreement with Aohige. This is Luffy's journey, not Roger's. It's not an exact mirror and there's no need for Luffy to have a "Garp". I do believe Koby will become an admiral and rival Luffy in many ways, but I don't think his relationship with Luffy will necessarily be the same as Roger and Garp's. They're different characters and Luffy's journey is going to end in a completely different way.
I can see Jinbe dying before joining SH, maybe at the hands of Big Mom which enrages luffy, and so on. So not him. I think Kinemon will be joining, the only time he's asked some to join him and they havent is Jinbe and Vivi who are considered nakama anyway 'and said they would join later. The only other case I can remember is a zombie at thriller bark but SH's may have interrupted luffy while he was asking. Yes I know he asked Kinemon's legs but he's a likeable guy and could be a valuable member (which, let's face it always happens)
He asked Goemon to join, and Goemon refused. So there's that. Luffy actually has asked a lot of people to join, but he's only been dead set on his current crew, and Jinbe. When THEY refused, he did everything he could to rebuff their refusal, or outright ignore it.
@Vongola_Boss_XI:
I still feel like just as in Luffy's time, the D's are destined to cross paths.
The only D's in Luffy time are is family so crossing path is normal thing. And let's not forget he is the main character. Main character aren't good example of what is normal.
The only D's in Luffy time are is family so crossing path is normal thing. And let's not forget he is the main character. Main character aren't good example of what is normal.
Ignoring the rest of the dumb stuff in the post, since when is Teach Luffy family?
Oh and Ace isn't his family either(by blood), they MET like Vongola said and eventually became brothers due to their oath just like Sabo is their brother too.
Oh and Ace isn't his family either(by blood), they MET like Vongola said and eventually became brothers due to their oath just like Sabo is their brother too.
Well, Garp was a rival to Roger, and Roger chose to hand off his son to Garp. So it wasn't a TOTAL coincidence, but it does seem fated.
And I really think people should stop trying to find parallel in everything. Such thing just get on my nerve like the Roger's hat thing.
THIZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ ^^^^^^^
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smoker being luffy's "garp" as of current story seems more likely than coby and i think (i may be wrong) u see otherwise because of ur own views on what will happen to smoker and tashigi.
im not gonna lie, yeah, i think smoker and tashigi wont stay in the marines.the whole Vice admiral thing with smoker is something u could take into consideration but isnt the only thing.
u mention that coby and luffy has special kind of hakis… not sure what u mean here. all we've seen of coby is observation haki.yep. observation haki, a special one…
u say they have dreams that rival each other… it wasnt mentioned what garps dream was or if it even rivaled that of Gol D. roger... and imo i dont think fleet Admiral and Pirate King are rivals. luffy claims the pirate kings is top of the food chain, he can do whatever he so pleases. a fleet admiral to me isnt equivalent. (i'll save my view point on this for another post/day/topic)
what i mean is, they would be on the same level when luffy is on top of the food chain.
u mention the friendship and respect coby and luffy has. garp chased roger for YEARS, its not too far'fetched to believe they developed a relationship through this method, the SAME method that is currently happening, where smoker himself is chasing after luffy.
i concede on this one, its true.
u mention the age factor. u could possible be right but i dont think age is necessarily a factor.
and to finalize it u mention coby actually has a bogart. dont forget, from the very moment we got introduced to smoker to this very arc, smoker has had tashigi. his right hand (wo)man, who has also had interactions with luffy's (imo) right had man zoro. they've even played on the whole kuina situation and then with this arc their small interaction.with all due respect, you got a point, but maybe its because of my view of what will happen with tashigi.
with all thats said and done, smoker/luffy seems to show (from what we've seen) more similar traits to garp/roger than coby/luffy does. this does NOT mean it will happen. im just saying it seems more likely than it does for coby.
i agree that either of us coulb be right (or wrong)…i dont like comparing roger's life to luffy so much but im just bringing up coby to counter the guys that conclusively put smoker as the garp of luffy's generation.
by the way, would just like to point out that if coby reaches the ultimate form of his haki, he would be a very hard opponent for luffy,….luffy wont even hit him if coby's observation haki is that strong.
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@Vongola_Boss_XI:
If you read my post on the previous page, I'm in agreement with Aohige. This is Luffy's journey, not Roger's. It's not an exact mirror and there's no need for Luffy to have a "Garp". I do believe Koby will become an admiral and rival Luffy in many ways, but I don't think his relationship with Luffy will necessarily be the same as Roger and Garp's. They're different characters and Luffy's journey is going to end in a completely different way.
exactly bro!!!! im so annoyed at guys trying to make roger (and everything that happened to roger or who he met) the exact life of luffy.
i even read some guys saying that "luffy will also contract an incurable disease", "he also needs a portgas d. rogue", "luffy will also be executed"…smh.
If Luffy contracts an incurable disease, it will be so that Chopper can achieve his dream.