I don't understand why people thought Sora or Cloud would be in the game, SE doesn't see like the company that would do that too me.
As for Spyro he's francise has been reborn with skylander for better or worse, and Actvision probeley won't let him go because he's getting a new game this year.
As for Crash….I have hope he will be some secret charcter......but if that's the case theyshould give him a reveal to bring hype for the game or activision is asking too much for it
the one thing that gets me is evil cole. I wouldn't have minded so much if any other series got another representative but no. Only infamous did and it's another version of the character already in. It does scream of laziness even if they have different movesets
Cole being 10% of the roster is just sad.
Nobody thought about adding Wanderer or even Ico?
Or maybe Dart :/
Actually so far there isn't one JRPG character.
Why do I keep hearing this bs? You probally heard that from a fan.
It would make sense to keep him out if they intend to have him in the next smash bros, kojima and sakurai are friends anyway. Raiden is the next best thing to not getting him it would seem.
Yeah. I'm fine with Snake not being there, but Crash and Spyro not being there is pretty disappointing.
As far as I'm concerned this doesn't tick any boxes for me character wise. Sure Sir. Daniel is nice but he wasn't really anything of my childhood with Sony. Nor was Parappa. No Crash, Spyro or Lara or any JRPG chars leaves my PS1 childhood feeling neglected and ignored. And none of the Sony exclusive modern day chars really amounted to anything. Kratos and Drake are still some of my least favourite protagonists in series ever. Don't really know who Fat Princess or the cat is. And the Third Party chars like Raiden, Big Daddy and Dante don't really grab my attention.
Hopefully some DLC fixes the roster and makes it more interesting. But they would need to be included in a GOTY version of the game.
I don't think it's a deal breaker … besides, I think it's reasonable that they may have more characters that they're not releasing for launch. Same goes with other games, you just unlock the characters or they become DLC.
Hopefully there are more unlockables or DLC. However something tells me they are holding out for a sequel. This is Sakurai who doesn't releasea game until he perfects it and Sony knows this game will sell.
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are people taking this as if their are unannounced characters who are just unlockable? It sounds to me like all the characters announced are the only characters in the game outside of dlc. I really hope i'm not right but that's what it sounds like to me
I would not put any hype into DLC to be completely honest.
All-Stars? HELL NO!
Crash, Spyro, Snake, Cloud, Croc, Um Yammer Lammy, The Shadow of The Colossus kid…
This game should be called "Some of The PlayStation 3 Not-So-Big-Stars and Some Dudes From Older PlayStations That We Still Didn't Lose The Right To".
Much better title.
And YES, I'm STILL bitching about this game.
Um Jammer Lammy*
Can't say I have any need to bitch about this, as I knew Crash and Spyro would be a nightmare for them to get in. Still, royally sucks. I had hopes they had more tricks up their sleeves.
Oh well.
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All-Stars? HELL NO!
Crash, Spyro, Snake, Cloud, Croc, Um Yammer Lammy, The Shadow of The Colossus kid…
This game should be called "Some of The PlayStation 3 Not-So-Big-Stars and Some Dudes From Older PlayStations That We Still Didn't Lose The Right To".
Much better title.And YES, I'm STILL bitching about this game.
'Some of Gaming's Stars featuring Sony.' is the one I like.
And nah. I seriously doubt if there is DLC chars they would be anything major. Unless they are really pushing for DLC sales that they would let instantly recognisable and popular characters like Cloud or Snake not be in the game initially in favour of kinda obscure ones like Sir. Daniel and Parappa the Rappa. It would be like the next Smash Bros game dropping the likes of Samus, Fox and Kirby in the main roster, putting them as DLC and instead putting in Little Mac, Waluigi and Andy from Advance Wars there instead.
To be fair, Little Mac's actually really well known with Punch out! I'll honestly be surprised if he's not in the next game or somewhere soon in the SSB games.
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Well, at least they have Jak, Ratchet, and Sly since those are the next biggest classic Sony characters I can think of.
@Aru:
This game should be called "Some of The PlayStation 3 Not-So-Big-Stars and Some Dudes From Older PlayStations That We Still Didn't Lose The Right To"
I think this is very apparent when they decided to include dmc's Dante into the roster. I mean, will dmc won't even be released when all-stars shows up in the market. I find his inclusion pointless outside of a marketing standpoint.
I think this is very apparent when they decided to include dmc's Dante into the roster. I mean, will dmc won't even be released when all-stars shows up in the market. I find his inclusion pointless outside of a marketing standpoint.
They're supposed the respresent the Future of playstation, which i personally have no problem with.
But i do think they should've first made sure most of the Icons that made Playstation famous in the first place, should be in.
No future without a past.
Buy yeah, even without those characters the game still is a blast to play.
Even if you don't really like the roster.
I'm not a big playstation fan myself, but i had alot of fun playing this even with some of the characters i don't care for.
And i can honestly recommend to all the haters to at least try to game.
I just don't think that with the current Roster size and character representation, this game is worth 60 euro.
Although Crash and Spyro definitely helped shape playstation, you can't deny the influence that characters such as Sly Cooper, Jak and Daxter, Ratchett and Clank have had in shaping sony fandom since the PS2. Or the influence Nathan Drake and Sackboy are having with the current generation.
Heck, I haven't really played most of these games and I recognize the characters. At least most of them, I'd say Radec is the only character I have no knowledge of.
If this game had come out a decade ago, then yea, Crash and Spyro and Snake and Lara would have been vital. But this here is a different generation. The only reason Nintendo has NES classics in the roster is because they are still relevant to games currently, plus ROB and Ice Climbers being classic fighters. And Nintendo doesn't have to strike deals with other companies to get their hands on their classic characters.
I'm also extremely sure they'll be pumping out extra stuff for this game. There's a reason the guy mentions this to be the Launch roster, these people clearly still want to be working and as a result will keep trying to add content later on. The real worry is how PS goes about giving us that content, I hope they don't go capcom on it.
Also, gameplay will also be a main selling point. We're talking about a game that looks to mimic the addictiveness of a Smash Bros. game and that actually has the staff constantly revising it to balance the characters. Plus, a decent online multiplayer, which is every smash bros. fan's dream. The amount of time you could potentially play this game is what gives it value.
You're probably right, maybe it's just that we expected to much, for the first game.
Let's see what Superbot can show me the upcoming weeks to sway me to their cause again.
We should be getting some more info this Friday, Superbot has a Panel on EB Expo Australia.
And than there is this;
Feminist Anita Sarkeesian, crusader of the Video Game feminist movement is said to make a rant about the Playstation exclusive game "Playstation All Stars Battle Royale".
"They're giving the males an unfair advantage in this game" says Anita.
"As a woman, I find it unfair how the men get to fight the women in this game but also how only one of the two women in the current roster is obese and doesn't have any way of physically fighting. I find this offensive".
Anita is also claiming how the proportions on Fat Princess and Nariko are a mockery to women and that Sony should make more females "in the near future".
Anita is also going to make a petition to Sony on them not to include Kat from Gravity Rush(who may or may not be int he game already) because her outfit is too revealing.
Anita's popularity rose when she created a Kickstarter to battle against how women are portrayed in gaming today.
Anita said this before the interview was over.
"I honestly don't care about the Playstation History if women are being portrayed so unrealistically and horribly in this game" she said.
"I'd rather have this game be a mockery to the Playstation brand but with good female characters than it being made for fans and with it having these mockery to women characters running around while men are pleased by it."
Her petition against Kat will appear sometime this week"
I had to laugh..
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You're probably right, maybe it's just that we expected to much, for the first game.
Let's see what Superbot can show me the upcoming weeks to sway me to their cause again.
We should be getting some more info this Friday, Superbot has a Panel on EB Expo Australia.And than there is this;
I had to laugh..
Does she actually believe the feces that spews out of her mouth? People gave this idiot money.
She…... wants equal rights for women… but it's wrong when men fight them on an equal basis? This has to be fake right? THIS CAN'T BE REAL.
How is this too revealing? She's going to make a petition against... this?
That's the type of feminism that really pisses me off. I have agreed in the past that video games in general do represent woman poorly, but in this case the argument is so piss-poor and obviously absurd that one can't help but think this particular individual has let "power" get to her head and now she wants to change everything and complain about everything just because.
…..Unless she's joking, I suddenly feel less bad about hearing the news about her getting insulted over the Kickstarter (It's still wrong, but....I don't feel as bad now that I know what she's like.).
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Does she actually believe the feces that spews out of her mouth? People gave this idiot money.
She…... wants equal rights for women… but it's wrong when men fight them on an equal basis? This has to be fake right? THIS CAN'T BE REAL.
How is this too revealing? She's going to make a petition against... this?
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I'm guessing she just said her Kickstarter was to go over the issues of feminism in gaming without actually telling people what her actual ideas of it are.
As a feminist myself, I've watched plenty of Anita's videos and many of her comments. She's said plenty of things I've disagreed with, and often times, I don't feel like she's the best person to be leading the charge in feminism in video games. I don't think she's unintelligent. However, she's made plenty of arguments and statements with vague or unsteady relation to the actual problem (calling Kratos' family dying a situation of 'Women Stuffed in the Refrigerator' in God of War), making judgments and statements against media without the proper research or knowledge (calling Bayonetta a single mother, proving she hasn't played the game or know the character), and in my eyes, doesn't explain that the main focus isn't to hate the characters and products that create these stereotypes, and instead, bring light to the trend and use this information to die down massive issues with female portrayal in video games.
However… This is fake. That interview never happened, and was posted by a troll on GameFAQs/Gamespot: http://www.gamespot.com/playstation-all-stars-battle-royale/forum/breaking-news-anita-sarkeesian-to-rant-about-playstation-all-stars-and-sony-64189633/ There are dumb and uneducated feminists in the world. Anita is pretty smart and deserves more credit than the flack she gets, even though I see serious flaw in her methods. However, that interview isn't real. Feminists already get bad rep, especially female ones, but there are feminists who don't mind Nariko, Fat Princess, or Kat as much as that article would let on. I don't know enough about the three characters to comment myself, but I'd say Fat Princess is definitely a deviation from the standard female character you'd see anywhere else. An outrageous character, but not to the extent that I'd say it's offensive to females. Think of how many overweight/obese/thick female characters are out there that are popular or even liked.
Only other character I can think of is Hammer (thick from muscle, not fat) from Fable 2.
However… This is fake. That interview never happened, and was posted by a troll on GameFAQs/Gamespot: http://www.gamespot.com/playstation-all-stars-battle-royale/forum/breaking-news-anita-sarkeesian-to-rant-about-playstation-all-stars-and-sony-64189633/ There are dumb and uneducated feminists in the world. Anita is pretty smart and deserves more credit than the flack she gets, even though I see serious flaw in her methods. However, that interview isn't real. Feminists already get bad rep, especially female ones, but there are feminists who don't mind Nariko, Fat Princess, or Kat as much as that article would let on. I don't know enough about the three characters to comment myself, but I'd say Fat Princess is definitely a deviation from the standard female character you'd see anywhere else. An outrageous character, but not to the extent that I'd say it's offensive to females. Think of how many overweight/obese/thick female characters are out there that are popular or even liked.
Only other character I can think of is Hammer (thick from muscle, not fat) from Fable 2.
Alright. My bad then. It is good to see that it was fake since that would have been pretty…..disappointing since I was looking forward to that Kickstarter.
Nah, it's cool. Not anyone's fault except the asshat who started this on GameFAQs.
Personally, I look forward to and dread seeing her future show (starting November it seems).
That explains the absurdity … it's sad in itself that people go out of their way to misinform just to lower a person's credibility.
This game needs Tony Hawk and King of the Cosmos.
Some more info from the _Sony Holiday Even_t;
- No reveals at EB Expo
- The 20 characters are unlocked right away. I think he hinted at secret characters but I'm not too sure.
- Superbot would put Old Dante over New Dante but Capcom wanted New Dante
- With Cole MacGrath, Sucker Punch wanted 2 characters.
- The playing cards will be an EU pre-order bonus for Gamestop EU. He still doesn't know if NA will get it.
- There will a lot of content. A LOT
- There are alternate colours for alternate costumes.
- They might be adding a screen-shot mode like in SSBB. Where you can take pictures and save replays.
- The reason they haven't released any info in awhile is because of the delay. In every game they plan out the events they are going to be in and when they will give out information almost at the start of development. But since the game got delayed a month, you have like an extra month that they didn't plan to do anything. He said we are going to get a lot more info now until the game releases.
- Clockwerk always reads the forums. He reads the official forums, GameFaqs, NeoGaf, some fighting game forums, and even this one if I remember correctly.
- The PS+ beta will be released in late October or early November.
- Trophies will be about 70% single player and 30% online. They are not done the trophies so this could change.
Thanks, Sucker Punch and Capcom.
Wait…doesn't Suckerpunch already have 2 characters in this game? Isn't Sly and Cole enough for them? shrug
Here's an article about all the IP Holders.
Turns out even all the first party character were hard to get.
Superbot only got the permission to use some of the characters, if the IP-holder was 100% behind the character.
I'm guessing Sucker Punch wanted to have both sides of Cole in this game. Because that's one of Infamous main selling points.
B](http://blog.us.playstation.com/2012/10/15/playstation-all-stars-battle-royale-beta-access-begins-tuesday-for-ps3-ps-vita/)eta for Plus members tomarrow and everyone else a week from then. Also the rest of the pre-order costumes revealed. Kessler for good Cole and MGS2 Raiden is sweet!
Dan's golden armor! ^_^
I remember that in MedEvil 2.
lol Jak has no neck.
It still doesn't feel right that Dan doesn't have his gatling gun…
And lol at Jak getting the "precursor legacy" outfit but retaining his short hair, goatee, and perma-frown. Yeah, thats exactly what he looked like in that game!
Some new gameplay videos;
Looks like they gave this game some more polish.
Loving the Loco Roco stage.. untill it starts going over to MGS.
The Franzea stage looks so good! Even with the Rising kinda messing with it.
Gotta love Sir Dan's "voice".
I kind of wonder whats up with beach ball thing in the Time Station level,
What does it do?
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I think it was some item, can't remember. Also that death animations are a nice touch with color coded ps icons bursting out. Also Andrew Ryan is in Big Daddies intro which is very cool.
Wow.. Donte's DLC outfit is so uninspired. It's just him with his jacket off. La-dee-da.
Yep, at least in that last gameplay video he seems to be wearing Vergil's jacket.
As much as people hate him, he seems to be a character that could be really fun to play.
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They should have just made his DLC costume be the new Vergil.
Gotta love Sir Dan's "voice".
I kind of wonder whats up with beach ball thing in the Time Station level,
What does it do?
It's a move of Heihachi's, Tekken Ball. He also has a bowling pin move.
Anyone else having trouble with the beta? Doesn't seem to ever be able to connect to players and as a result I haven't really been able to play yet, aside from the tutorial.
Beta isn't up in Europe yet, so i don't know.
I did manage to get another beta code for the people who don't have PS+ and want to play it earlier.
Since i already have playstation plus i don't need it.
Anyone interested?
Only got one code, so first come first serve.
EDIT:
Code Send to Jekkie
So far it seems to be exactly as addictive as I expected, although I'm finding it hard to see this balancing of characters Superbot spoke of. From the top of my head, it's a pain fighting Radec, especially when there's more than one and there's spamming of long distance shots all over the place.
I guess part of the fault here is also that blocking hasn't really felt natural yet, and my smash bros. instinct sometimes have me press R2 and then I waste a super. ADASFASD
As for characters I like, so far Fat Princess is right up my alley. Feels the most natural and comfortable at this point.
Radec seems to be popular ..since I mostly see 2 to 3 of them on one game.. Won 2nd in one match as sly ,
But Radec is a bit problematic when they both can get lvl 2 specials
Ok, starting to notice an upward trend of lots of people using Radec and Kratos. Would get annoying, but for some reason I kept a winning streak of at least four matches. I think I'm getting more used to Fat Princess and doing more than just button-mashing at this point, and her chicken special has gotten me about 5-6 kills when used properly and I can usually get two chickens in before time ends.
I needed to play this to know if I wanted to buy it, and I think I definitely will. Need to have more characters and stages, as well as the chance for more diverse matches, which will no doubt be a bit more enjoyable than fighting three guys using Kratos.
