Hahaha….. Your not crazy! Thats me.
Haha then just read the damn thing! You're probably going to finish Part 1 before you know it, it's only 5 volumes long. One day I was very sleepy and going to bed but I decided to read the first chapter before I slept. I ended up reading the whole first volume. That's how good it is.
So… I never read the manga. Should I do that before I watch the anime or should I just watch the anime? I tend to watch the anime first with everything untill I get to the point where I don't feel like waiting, then I blow through a bunch of chapters in a day and have to wait anyway.
Read the manga first but leave the anime for a while.
I myself am waiting 'til Parts 4 and 5 are re-done so I can read all in one go. Regardless of how fast or slow I read, I don't wanna read the manga only to have to wait forever to catch up, just refuse to do that. Until then, I don't mind watching the anime on a weekly basis :)
Haha then just read the damn thing! You're probably going to finish Part 1 before you know it, it's only 5 volumes long. One day I was very sleepy and going to bed but I decided to read the first chapter before I slept. I ended up reading the whole first volume. That's how good it is.
I really wanna read it, but I don't wanna have to deal with crappy translations. I'm fine with semi bad quality scans though. Plus I prefer anime. I've heard so many good things about this series, which is why I'm confused about what I wanna do. I don't wanna not understand whats going on.
Read the manga first but leave the anime for a while.
What do you mean leave the anime for a while? let the episodes build up?
I myself am waiting 'til Parts 4 and 5 are re-done so I can read all in one go. Regardless of how fast or slow I read, I don't wanna read the manga only to have to wait forever to catch up, just refuse to do that. Until then, I don't mind watching the anime on a weekly basis :)
My thoughts exactly.
There is a contingent of people who will always answer "Anime Vs. Manga" with "Manga" immediately without taking anything into account.
Case in point, this series isn't even OUT Yet. So there is not yet any good way of giving an educated opinion on it at all.
All signs point towards this being a good adaptation tho, so I'd recommend using it as a jumping in point. Follow it with the rest of us, whether or not you read the manga.
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There is a contingent of people who will always answer "Anime Vs. Manga" with "Manga" immediately without taking anything into account.
Case in point, this series isn't even OUT Yet. So there is not yet any good way of giving an educated opinion on it at all.
All signs point towards this being a good adaptatoin tho, so I'd recommend using it as a jumping in point. Follow it with the rest of us, whether or not you read the manga.
But the manga is the source material, and we know what that brings. The anime may/may not be an accurate representation, no one is saying it won't be, but I know what I can recommend. Something I've already seen/read… the manga.
Occasionally, an anime adaptation does things better than the Manga.
multiple cases in point, Yu Yu Hakusho has a better, more condensed beginning and a better, more true to the author's original intent ending. It's also one of the only anime I can think of that covered ALL of the manga, and didn't have ANY filler that I can remember.. Hellsing is one of my favorite manga series, but Hirano's art was absolute Garbage until mid volume 2-Volume 3. The new Blu-ray recut and redone Episodes of that Material are LEAGUES better. Death Note. Specifically the second half, was SO FREAKING MUCH BETTER in the anime. My god, the Near/Mello arc just dragged… and dragged... and dragged in the manga... the Anime is much better overall, even if they mucked with the ending a bit.
Basically, nobody's seen the anime yet. It starts next month. So don't ask anyone for an opinion on it yet, because anyone who can give you an actual honest opinion on it is a goddamn bastard for hogging the secret to time travel.
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The colors better be inconsistent, or else…
From the preview I really like Dio and Jotaro, but have doubts about animation. I hope they have a neat budget and can afford all the pins and badges of JoJos'.
There is a contingent of people who will always answer "Anime Vs. Manga" with "Manga" immediately without taking anything into account.
Case in point, this series isn't even OUT Yet. So there is not yet any good way of giving an educated opinion on it at all.
All signs point towards this being a good adaptation tho, so I'd recommend using it as a jumping in point. Follow it with the rest of us, whether or not you read the manga.
The problem is that most anime studios aim to make an anime that fully represents the manga, meaning their highest goal is to be on par. It's rare to find a studio so into the adaptation that they aim to make it better, so it's easy to assume that it will only go downhill. Also, as pyro said, there is always the potential for things to be changed in the anime and the manga has a canonical priority (if you're into that stuff).
I actually have faith in this adaptation. It looks like it's being done with high quality and care, similar to the new HXH anime. It's always a safe bet, though, to start with the manga and make sure you're not being short-changed any of the material.
As long as they don't cut Speedwagon, they're in the clear.
Is it safe to read part 7 before 2-6? I read most of part 1 but I'd rather have the anime be new for me for everything past that. It'll take a loooong time to get to part 7 so I'm not worried about that. Also what's the deal with it supposedly being an alternate retelling? unless that is somehow spoilers
Anime is just a lot more enjoyable for me… I read all of JoJolion that's out so far, and loved it. I had originally decided to only read the 1st chapter to see what his art was like nowadays but it ended up being an intense marathon
Occasionally, an anime adaptation does things better than the Manga.
multiple cases in point, Yu Yu Hakusho has a better, more condensed beginning and a better, more true to the author's original intent ending. It's also one of the only anime I can think of that covered ALL of the manga, and didn't have ANY filler that I can remember…
What was wrong with Yusuke working as a hero for hire at a Keiko's ramen shop? That made sense to me. The anime just went, "And they lived happily ever after! BANG!"
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Yeah, I'm definitely excited for the new anime.
I started reading the manga a couple of months ago, got sidetracked, and recently got motivated to continue on from where I left off last time, which was Part 2.
Is it safe to read part 7 before 2-6? I read most of part 1 but I'd rather have the anime be new for me for everything past that. It'll take a loooong time to get to part 7 so I'm not worried about that. Also what's the deal with it supposedly being an alternate retelling? unless that is somehow spoilers
It's almost completely safe to read part 7 on it's own, in fact it wasn't until the fifth volume that confirmation came in that it was part of Jojo's continuity, which shows you how separated it is from the rest of the series. There are a couple nods to previous parts, but beyond that it works as a standalone title. The details regarding part 7 being an "alternate retelling" are huge spoilers, so I won't talk about that.
What was wrong with Yusuke working as a hero for hire at a Keiko's ramen shop? That made sense to me. The anime just went, "And they lived happily ever after! BANG!"
The Kiss at the beach.
Togashi wanted it to end after the Three Kings arc but his editors at Jump wanted him to go one more arc, so He did a One chapter hostage "Arc" to screw with them.
The anime staff ended it where he wanted.
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The Kiss at the beach.
Togashi wanted it to end after the Three Kings arc but his editors at Jump wanted him to go one more arc, so He did a One chapter hostage "Arc" to screw with them.
The anime staff ended it where he wanted.
Yeah, the last couple chapters seemed more like trying out new ideas than actually trying to finish the story proper.
I'm rereading Battle Tendency. Oh Joseph, how I've missed thee and thy antics.
Also…
I love the "how many breads" part.
I hope anime Yoshikage sounds exactly like that.
We need more fighting games where you run over your opponent with a horse.
Also, Joseph is now Kyon.
I read somewhere that one of the TGS trailers features Buccellati saying "Arrivederci". Where is this? Do we have video of it?
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Occasionally, an anime adaptation does things better than the Manga.
multiple cases in point, Yu Yu Hakusho has a better, more condensed beginning and a better, more true to the author's original intent ending.
It's also one of the only anime I can think of that covered ALL of the manga, and didn't have ANY filler that I can remember.
Well, technically, that's not entirely true. The beginning of the anime skipped many chapters with ghost Yusuke, obviously so they could get to his resurrection faster. It was nothing special, but still a cute, fun read that wouldn't hurt to see animated.
The Chapter Black and Three Kings arcs had many moments that could be called filler, since Togashi was already on lazy mode and the anime tried to extend it. It didn't have filler arcs, but people like to label every scene not in the manga as "filler". Like fights we've never seen in the original source.
Not to mention the changes, like Yusuke's mom being mostly removed and everything regarding Mukuro. So it's not a super faithful, complete adaptation.
So, around 5 years ago I read part 1 through part 3, then my reading spree came to an halt due to Duwang's horrible scans; recently I've begun reading again and now I'm at part 6. I just wanted to share some thoughts and ask you guys a few things.
Phantom Blood: Love at (almost) first sight. The characters were cool and it definitely wasn't the same trite battle manga. The art was crazy and the poses as well; I just saw above how Araki was inspired by fashion magazines and it all makes sense now. It had some (interestingly) disturbing parts and it was just the right length: in fact I think that many of the later parts of JoJo would have been way better if shortened by 5-10 volumes; sometimes in the more recent parts the fight just drag on too much. Dio was a great villain and
! Jonathan dies! First and last time for a JoJo as far as I know… don't spoil me!
Battle Tendency: Joseph was a much better main character than Jonathan. He's funny but also serious and strong when the need arises. Despite the name, Battle Tendency follows on the footsteps of part 1 and it's a great merger of fights and adventure, it also has the most fleshed out story of all the parts I've read, lots of stuff is added to the JoJo lore, while many things like hamon are better explained; it's set in many different and interesting places and we have a whole bunch of new badass villains. Just as part 1, it has a perfect lenght.
Stardust Crusaders: Probably my favourite part. Jotaro is one of the biggest badasses in the history of manga and Dio is for sure in my top ten of villains. I loved the journey to Egypt and I loved stands. At this point something like stands was needed, the hamon stuff was getting stale and Araki couldn't possibly have just hamon and normal fights for the length of 16 volumes. Jotaro's sidekicks are also great, especially good old Joseph. Though here JoJo begins being a little too much formulaic for my tastes: Jotaro encounters stand user -> turns out to be a good guy x4 and then Jotaro encounters enemy with weird stand -> stand weakness found -> stand user defeated -> rinse and repeat. It's just one self concluded fight after another. Though the craziness and novelty of stands makes up for the repetitiveness. The final fight with Dio has to be in my top 5 moments in a manga ever. It's also great that stands didn't replace hamon to this point, both were still there together.
Up to part 3 in my opinion the manga was just getting better and better, while from part 4 and onwards some problems will arise. More to come later today…
Prepare! The new age is coming!
The anime begins in 9 days. Has a simulcast of sorts been announced or will we have to rely on fansubs?
Does anyone know a manga site where I can read Battle Tendency in order? It's annoying when I'm reading a fight scene in one chapter, and then I jump into something totally different.
Does anyone know a manga site where I can read Battle Tendency in order? It's annoying when I'm reading a fight scene in one chapter, and then I jump into something totally different.
I found a site when I was reading Part 2, but I don't remember exactly which. It could be Mangable, did you try it?
I found a site when I was reading Part 2, but I don't remember exactly which. It could be Mangable, did you try it?
I read jojo on mangapanda.
Mangable's helping me fill in the blanks. Thanks!
I read jojo on mangapanda.
Mangable's helping me fill in the blanks. Thanks!
Use batoto.net, always use batoto.net
Dude, how about you put a spoiler around that last part about phantom blood, some people haven't read it yet.
Edited for Irony.
You say that but then still quote him, spoiler and all? And anyway anyone who hasn't even finished Phantom Blood wouldn't be checking this thread.
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You say that but then still quote him, spoiler and all? And anyway anyone who hasn't even finished Phantom Blood wouldn't be checking this thread.
There are a lot of people who come here that have never read anything.
Agreed on the quoting part, though.
But…that's a 25 year old manga. It's like saying Toki dies.
But…that's a 25 year old manga. It's like saying Toki dies.
Not really, I'd agree with something like "Luke I am your father!" Since, that spoiler is everywhere.
Most people I know only knew about Jojo through Stardust crusaders… or the video game based on stardust crusaders.
but Part 1 and 2? No.
Also
! Jonathan is the freaking protagonist of part 1. That's a HUGE deal, especially when it seems like a happy ending when Jonathan gets on the boat.
Sorry about the spoiler, didn't think about it at all.
Diamond is Unbreakable: After all the traveling around this part caught me by surprise by being set completely in one place. This is where the fights in my opinion begin to really stretch too much and here the formula enemy -> ally really gets repetitive, there are like 10 different sidekicks and some of them are only seen once or twice. What I really didn't get is how Araki kept putting them all together in some crucial moments
! (i.e. after Shigechi's death or at the very end of part 4) but then didn't use most of them for anything useful/interesting; it's as if he didn't know how to manage all those characters at once or as if he didn't know what to do with them after their introduction. In fact it seemerd to me that for the first half of part 4 he just wanted to experiment as much as possible with different stuff. But for me it got boring pretty quick. However then Kira entered the scene and that's what really saved part 4 (alongside with Rohan and Jotaro): Kira is an even more interesting villain than Dio; Araki has a real talent for creating bad guys. Too bad that after the first fight with Kira the formulaic, stretched out, battles with anonymous guys began again; I mean part 4 had barely any plot, it blows my mind how it lasted around 18 volumes. Other things I didn't like are:
Random size-changing of characters; the lock guy is gigantic at first, then he becomes smaller than Koichi!!!! Toshikazu looks much older and almost as tall as Jotaro when introduced, then he's the same age and height of Koichi!!!
Overhaul of style mid-part; if you look at some characters in the first volumes and then in the last you can barely recognize them… that's okay for a new mangaka who has to settle on his own style at the beginning... but Araki already had 28 (!) volumes under his belt... why the sudden change, does anybody know? Doesn't seem just natural stylistic evolution to me.
Healing power; it's annoying... don't get me wrong, Crazy Diamond is a great stand, one of the most versatile, but the healing power stinks of dragon balls and it's cop out for a great mangaka like Araki, who has an enourmous imagination, it takes away some of the suspence of part 1-3, where people died for good and in gruesome ways. Here everyone just kept being healed back to life.
Prepare! The new age is coming!
- Random size-changing of characters; the lock guy is gigantic at first, then he becomes smaller than Koichi!!!! Toshikazu looks much older and almost as tall as Jotaro when introduced, then he's the same age and height of Koichi!!!
Araki has done this even before this part, if you remember the senator Dio made drive him around in part 3 he was originally a normal looking man but then he also shrunk.
I think this is just something he does as a visual cue that someone has broken mentally. In real life things that you are afraid of appear bigger than they are, so he is showing that there is nothing to be afraid of from that person anymore.
Honestly, I liked Part 4 more than Part 3. I felt Part 4 was less contrived.
- Random size-changing of characters; the lock guy is gigantic at first, then he becomes smaller than Koichi!!!! Toshikazu looks much older and almost as tall as Jotaro when introduced, then he's the same age and height of Koichi!!!
Alucard is probably right on the money as to why Araki shrunk them. But man, I really hate that he did that.
Parts 1-2, and 5 are my favorite as of now, but I've yet to complete part 6, because I keep losing interest. :/ (I know I should never past judgement on a Part before I'm done. I'll get around to it.)
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Parts 1-2, and 5 are my favorite as of now, but I've yet to complete part 6, because I keep losing interest. :/ (I know I should never past judgement on a Part before I'm done. I'll get around to it.)
As you said, because part 6 is like that.
And you'll get greatly rewarded for your patience.
Weather Report should've been the protagonist for Stone Ocean
@Cyan:
Weather Report should've been the protagonist for Stone Ocean
What's wrong with Jolyne?
She isn't weather report
Fair enough.
I'm happy with Speedwagon and his bowler hat in the anime. In the future, we'll see Stroheim and his NAZI SCIENCE!!!!!1111
The Jojo adaptation looking awesome is fine and all but does anyone know if there's a fansubbing group planning to pick it up?
No point in hyping myself up for it if i can't watch it.
[DUWANgg] fansubs of course…
There's pretty much nothing that "doesn't get picked up by any fansub" these days. Especially not for a series as well known as JJBA. More likely what'll happen is a bunch of groups start working on it and then a few will drop off as time goes on.
Anyhow, I'm not… I'm doing way too many projects already.
Except Hyouge Mono, of course…
I considered picking it up at one point, but then realized that I've tried the weekly show thing before with One Piece and I can't keep up, my real life is too demanding.
My group will have to stick with Hellsing, we only have one more episode to do and it's over lol.
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