He used Gear 3 to break the door and then…shrunk.
Its possibly a side effect for Gear 3 itself.
Chapter 403 "Mr. Chivalry" Discussion
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The reason luffy puts his thumb into his mouth is because he blows up his hand into a giant fist. The fist is like 20 feet wide 20 feet tall and uses that to obliterate anything in his way.
That's a good theory, though likely not even One Piece physics could describe such a phenomenon. o.O;
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Man, Sanji is so cool. And I can't believe Nami complemened him for his chivalry (after calling him an idiot of course). I think that line alone will have more healing power for Sanji than any of Chopper's medical skills (Sanji might not even have Chopper's medical help now anyway).
And damn, i said it in the spoiler topic, but Chibi-Luffy is too damn funny. Oda seriously rocks! (probably smokes some rocks too…)
I can't believe we only get one panel of Chibi-Luffy then a break. Oda likes to torture us.
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I'm guessing Calipha has the manaquin manaquin or the doll doll fruit or something. Sanji just didn't turn into glass, did you see his proportions?
Nice chaptah. Can't wait to see Nami take down Calipha.
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I have another theory on a potential weakness in the Rouskiki techniques. Some one earlier said that they had to yell out their names when they do a technique, but (unless someone can prove me wrong on this) I don't think they can do two moves at the same time. So if they did 'Tekkai' they coundn't use offensive roushiki moves such as 'Rankakyu' or 'Shigan'. Blueno did have an attack he did with the 'Tekkai' though, but it wasn't Roushiki. I think if you are able to hit them in the state of 'Soru' then you can do some damage, but of course you'd have to hit them first. At least thats what I think.
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Don't forget Frankfried. There IS one villain for every Straw Hat.
There's no way Zoro WON'T fight Kaku…. so either Sanji's going to take Usopp's place, and Usopp and Luffy will fight Lucci and Frankfried, or Sanji will go assist Luffy in taking back Robin, and end up fighting Frankfried.
I, personally, prefer the first one. Don't hate me for wanting Usopp to not take Jabura... but this way, Sanji'd have his fight against Jabura, we'd see more Zoro/Sanji team-ups, AND Luffy will BE THERE to see Sogeking's mask break.
The second one is doable, though.
(Sorry if this has been mentioned; I skipped the last two pages before posting this because I needed to get it off of my chest.)
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Guys, did Kalifa do a RANKYAKU at Sanji's CROTCH?
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With the way things are going you can still make some Cp9 Strawhat matchup predictions.
Lucchi vs Luffy
Once Luffy says he's gonna send someone flying the matchup is set.Kaku vs Zoro
Swordmen. nuff said.Kalifa vs Nami
Nami declared Kalifa her opponent this chapterKumadori vs Choppa
He told Nami he would take care of him while she handled KalifaJyabura vs Sanji
Sanji will likely bring the key to that matchup and end up replacing Usopp. Especially since Jyabura is bent on being at least second strongest of Cp9 almost like Sanji was with Zorro at least for the bounty.Fukurou vs Usopp
Usopp will somehow end up saving a cola depleted Franky thus setting up a matchup between the chronic liar and Cp9's zipper mouth truth teller.Spandam vs Franky
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If Califa did Rankyaku, his balls should be sliced but it's not…..
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With the way things are going you can still make some Cp9 Strawhat matchup predictions.
Lucchi vs Luffy
Once Luffy says he's gonna send someone flying the matchup is set.Kaku vs Zoro
Swordmen. nuff said.Kalifa vs Nami
Nami declared Kalifa her opponent this chapterKumadori vs Choppa
He told Nami he would take care of him while she handled KalifaJyabura vs Sanji
Sanji will likely bring the key to that matchup and end up replacing Usopp. Especially since Jyabura is bent on being at least second strongest of Cp9 almost like Sanji was with Zorro at least for the bounty.Fukurou vs Usopp
Usopp will somehow end up saving a cola depleted Franky thus setting up a matchup between the chronic liar and Cp9's zipper mouth truth teller.Spandam vs Franky
They both wanted this matchup all alongWow i like the idea that Soge takes on Zippermouth and Franky against Spandam.
For me this is the best possible match-up situation and it is very understandable
Great post 4ghost
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Thank you, ocean, Oda, and the other person for the chapter! Thanks, also, for the trans. :P
Cringe at Sanji getting kick below the belt I maybe a female, that still hurts to see that…X_x
You go, Chopper!
Grins at Chibi Luffy ^_^
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Then why the hell did he just blow a marine base? Was it for the hell of it? Actually, yeah. Crocodile probably does blow up things for the hell of it.
Excuse me but where did you get the idea from that he blew the base? The explosion we saw on the title page of last chapter indicates that those guys who are escaping are the cause of the explosion. And seeing it that Crocodile is not escaping it doesn´t make sense for him to be part of the explosion.
The room that exploded is the one a couple of pages ago Miss Goldenweek, Miss Valentine, Miss Merrychristmas, Miss Doublefinger and Mr. 5 entered. They entered, took Mr. 4 with and left again.
They are the escapees (sp?) and they started to escape the place where they all reuinided. In other words Crocodile´s cell. So it´s obvious that the explosion is their doing. It wouldn´t make any sense for Crocodile to blow up the room and stay where he is while those guys who do escape do nothing. Especially if Mr. 5 and Lasso are the once who are capable of blowing up stuff and not Crocodile. :happy:
Shaky, yes, but hardly making a difference that much at all: Before (Page 17) & After (Page 19). Whether if the G3 splitted the building shouldn't been even asked when we saw the tower just two pages before, splitted already!
Err, that´s no real before/after situation. Page 19 shows the moment where the shaking takes place and not the moment after it. We can´t comment if it shows the begining or the middle of the shaking but at least it is for sure that it shows the tower during the process of shaking. It definitely is no after situation.
I´m quite sure that the tower moved even more after the shaking if he already moved that much without any shaking at all.
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How can Gears be a changing form of his rubber body?
When Gear 2 showed no physical change. I mean, if the theory of Chibi Luffy being Gear 3 and not an after affect is true, then Gear 2 Luffy should be longer in all aspects. And not normal size.
So it would appear, Chibi Luffy is simply an after affect of Gear 3. And Gear 3 most obviously isn't an attack, but is an upgrade to his body that he can only keep up for a short amount of time. Think Kaio Ken from DBZ.
If going gear means denser more compressed rubber** then the different numbers to gear represent different levels of compression. And the higher the number the greater the level of compression. So in gear 2, he's still compressing his rubber, but not to the point of shrinking his rubber. I think Luffy's muscles in their relaxed state - his muscle tone if you will - were strong enough to counter-act any shrinking effects the rubber compression may have had in Gear 2. Gear 3 is a different story. In this super compressed state, his muscle tone couldn't keep his body from shrinking, and so you have chibi-Luffy. Also, just because his muscle tone couldn't maintain his original shape, it doesn't mean it's impossible for Luffy to stretch his rubber in Gear 3. Remember we're talking about Luffy's muscles in their relaxed state, not in their 'active' state (here I'd usually say contracting state - muscles contract when they're 'active' - but the physics of that, with Luffy's body the way it is, would be a little weird and nonsensical). So I've no doubt Luffy, with his superhuman strength, can still stretch his rubber (even though his rubber is now stiffer).
Also, I think Luffy holding his thumb in his mouth was a way of achieving greater compression. In gear 2, when we has compressing his rubber, all the steam and air was released in a haphazard unorderly way, making for reduced compression. But if he funnels all the air and steam through his thumb, sucking it out if you will, the steam and air release is more orderly, allowing for greater compression. Also in gear 2, he used only his muscles alone to release steam/air. With gear 3, along with his muscles, he also adds the sucking power of his mouth to help release steam/air, thereby achieving even greater rubber compression.
** for those not familiar (or still unclear) with the compressed rubber theory - compressed rubber increases tensile strength, which makes for stronger snap-back, meaning stronger and faster punches. It also makes rubber stiffer, thus hardening Luffy's body. However, because it's stiffer, more strength is required to stretch the rubber. I've no doubt Luffy has the strength to stretch gear compressed rubber. His stamina (how much energy he has to keep active in compressed form) however is not as clear.
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I'm more curious about what going on with Chopper actually. First, he knocks out Kumadori with a different looking arm point with the "sakura roseo", which I thought was just an uppercut but his stance looks likes he's jumping with both arms forward. Assuming that his normal arm point, his arms look weird. His tri and biceps are huge and circular while his forearms are fairly thin–which would limit his arm power. He's probably just being redesigned.
As for him kicking Kumadori ass, maybe it's retribution for Skypiea? Chopper got outdone by Shura and Ohm (though I can think of excuses...) and only beat the Priest with a mental defect. Judging from his intro (Drum), Chopper seemed like a strong fighter tha could be in Sanji's league--at least with the rumble ball. Maybe this fight will help establish Choppers strength a little. Now would be a good time for him to bring out his A-game, like a new rumble ball he's been preparing since they got there.
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Haha, chibi-Luffy is hilarious! I'm surprised that Chopper has an advantage against Kumadori. And woot for Nami vs. Calipha!
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Guys, did Kalifa do a RANKYAKU at Sanji's CROTCH?
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e109/droxid/05.jpg
The first strike to the jewels is a kick, but this one…BEWARE REALLY STUPID JOKE AHEAD:
Well ,since he is a cook he surely knows what to do with smashed eggs.
I found the CP9 power ranking someone was talking a couple of Post ago:
and I think 4Ghost is absolutelly right the matches seem to be:
Luccy vs Luffy = Settled this One was Clear
Kaku vs Zoro = Settled
Jyabura vs Sanji = I don't think Sanji will just lay there without a fight , and this macth makes a lot more sence than against Ussop.
Kumadori vs Chopper = Settled
Fukurou vs Sogeking = like Gost said Frankie its almost out of Power ,
he is not a Straw hat at the moment and he has a special relationship with Ussop so I think Ussop will rescue him and then face fukorou ,Frankie is almost fated to beat Spandaman .Kalifa vs Nami = like ghost said settled on this chapter
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@omae:
Oda Is Hereby Absolved Of All Accused Crimes Wherein Me May Have Been Immitating Another Series With Multiple Powerful And Badass Yet Redundant Forms!!!!
Agreed. :biggrin:
It almost seems like Oda is purposely trying really hard to throw people off from the final outcome. First it looks like we have some solid matchups, but now they're all getting mixed and switched out, and now I don't know what's going to happen. Calipha's df is scary. o_O Whatever it is.
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Actually my personal opinion has always been that Chopper is at least as strong physically as Zoro and Sanji are. He just lacks the exposure and the experience.
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I think the views of Sanji v. Jyabura are wishful thinking on the part of people who don't want Sanji to take backseat in this chapter. True, disregarding Luffy v. Lucchi and Zoro v. Kaku, all the matches could be toss ups, but why do people think Franky is going to bail on his battle with Fukurou? They're battling near a kitchen, right? Furthermore, Fukurou's apparent "specialty" is Tekkai, and Franky can smash through it; I don't see why this couldn't be a more interesting rehash of the Nero battle. Since Franky's so out of the way, it's doubtful anyone else will go search for him unless Califa does not have the key to Usopp and Zoro's handcuffs.
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Guys, did Kalifa do a RANKYAKU at Sanji's CROTCH?
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The first strike to the jewels is a kick, but this one…he's got titanium-forged steel balls. better than franky's shiny brass balls for wrestling puffing tom.
My respect for Sanji has gone up several notches.
….....oh come on!!!.........enough with the sanji bashing already........
helendragon, i don't think that is bashing. selphish said that she now respects sanji even more. read carefully, next time. <_<
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I think the views of Sanji v. Jyabura are wishful thinking on the part of people who don't want Sanji to take backseat in this chapter. True, disregarding Luffy v. Lucchi and Zoro v. Kaku, all the matches could be toss ups, but why do people think Franky is going to bail on his battle with Fukurou?
Like I said earlier, it's possible for Usopp to instead go after Frankfried. To be honest, as much as I like the idea of Sanji against Jabura (not only so he gets a strong guy, but because we'd see him and Zoro teamed up again,) I DO love the idea of Sogeking taking out somebody big. Don't get me wrong.
But one thing that's been bugging me since the beginning is that WHAT would be the point of his mask breaking? We know it's going to happen. But everybody except Chopper (and that wouldn't be very dramatic) and Luffy already knows who he is. So I'm thinking to myself, wow, it'd suck unless Luffy sees it. But how can Luffy see it?
That's where I draw the idea for Usopp v. Frankfried (Spandam) from.
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Paulie, when they say "No double posting" I think that means no triple, quintiple or even pentiple posting either."
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Nah, I don't think Chopper is going to become one of the top tier fighters that easily. While he may possess good qualities, such as physical strength and agility, he has very little battle experience and is only now learning how to fight.
All the other characters had at least some training in combat during their youth. With Zoro and Sanji it's obvious who their mentors are, Usopp trained with his slingshot, Nami already knew how to use a pole deftly when we first met her and Luffy… we'll he's a shonen protagonist, plus growing up with Ace and Shanks must have probably prepared him for a fighting career. But Chopper spent the first fifteen years of his life learning solely how to be a good doctor. Of course, the discovery of the rumble ball was an important advancement, but I doubt he experimented much with its possibilities.
That's why he needs gimmicks like discovering the weak point of his opponent and why he tends to end his battles with a single strike to that weak point. If Chopper, sweet, caring Chopper, truly wants to become one of the main fighters, I think he's going to need a trainer. Raw stength isn't everything, he needs to learn at least the basics of a martial art, like the importance of both attack and defence and so on...
I would prefer if Chopper were to assume the role of "healer" instead of "fighter". Since he's been with the Strawhats, we haven't really seen him doing serious medicine, only setting bones and bandaging wounds (which the others already managed before Chopper joined) and the odd case of unfreezing. I'd truly like Chopper to start tossing about healing potions during fights, or pain-killers so his Nakama can fight longer. That sort of thing. He should really let his doctor job seep into his fighting style, just like Sanji or Nami do. I mean, I personally dislike Naruto, but they had very credible "fighting doctors" in the Tsunade arc.
I had this idea about a possible new ability of Chopper: Reindeers lose their tines every year, but they regrow them for the mating season, so how about Chopper being able to regrow bone tissue, both his one and that of others? Instant fracture repair! No need to take it as far a Kimimaro, though...
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oh man!!
bring on the next chapter
I wanna see Chopper kick some ass :)
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Paulie, when they say "No double posting" I think that means no triple, quintiple or even pentiple posting either."
xD Seven times! Man, this new server…
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suptriple posts, gotta be a record :laugh:
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Mask can break later. Kick ass first, ok?
Or maybe he can get a new mask somewhere. Kaku's dressing room maybe.
Ah, anyhow, I believe that whatever Oda decides will be for the best. I don't care anymore if the douriki matches up or their positions in the colorspread align. It's all up to Oda/God.
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Well, the Sanji thing went better than I thought. At least he made some effort. I'm still a bit disappointed though, but somehow I kind of respect it.
Chopper vs. Kumadori will be kind of cool…. As for Sanji, I'm kind of hoping he'll take Chopper's spot and look for the keys. The other matchups are fine.
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I have another theory on a potential weakness in the Rouskiki techniques. Some one earlier said that they had to yell out their names when they do a technique, but (unless someone can prove me wrong on this) I don't think they can do two moves at the same time. So if they did 'Tekkai' they coundn't use offensive roushiki moves such as 'Rankakyu' or 'Shigan'. Blueno did have an attack he did with the 'Tekkai' though, but it wasn't Roushiki. I think if you are able to hit them in the state of 'Soru' then you can do some damage, but of course you'd have to hit them first. At least thats what I think.
Shounen fights without yelled attack names is just like a cheeseburger without cheese, soccer without beer, porn without sound you get what I mean. Everyone yells the names of their special techniques, it's a must.
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If that was the end of kumadori i'll be really disapointed. It seems sanji turn to get a fight is over. Unless he fights kudomari and chopper goes to look for the key. Which might be califa's so he might ask her and if she says no then he'll run off and maybe sanji will fight with his knifes.
Also why is everyone like omg sogeking must fight someone else cause jyabura is too powerful. I want usopp to fight jyabura personally. It'll be a great fight to see and the boywho cried wolf.
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lol @ paulie's sextuple post. i prefer the idea of franky going after spandam since that will show luffy that what kind of a guy franky is. i want to see luffy and franky bond after they fight both lucci and spandam.
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I just wonder how Sanji will live it down when everyone learns that Nami saved Sanji. And Chopper can't keep a secret, Zoro's never going to let Sanji live this down.
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If that was the end of kumadori i'll be really disapointed. It seems sanji turn to get a fight is over. Unless he fights kudomari and chopper goes to look for the key. Which might be califa's so he might ask her and if she says no then he'll run off and maybe sanji will fight with his knifes.
Also why is everyone like omg sogeking must fight someone else cause jyabura is too powerful. I want usopp to fight jyabura personally. It'll be a great fight to see and the boywho cried wolf.
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Thanks ocean for the chapter and kudou for the translation. :happy:
Awesome chapter, Oda never ceases to surprise me. I believe there isn't anything that hasn't been said about this chapter already. Really looking forward to how the cover story develops. :laugh: