Last Two Nakamates (vol. 5)

[Drake_Cloud]

I don't get why people think this chapter's upped Monet's chances. If anything, its basically ended them. She's shown herself to be a completely loyal and competent subordinate of a major villain, and is now actively stopping Luffy from getting to CC. At this point in Alabasta, Robin was clearly shown to have her own personal agenda separate from Croc's and had offered to help out the crew along with saving Luffy's life, which culminated in the underground scene with Luffy and the revelation that she wasn't such a bad guy after all.

Sure Monet said DoFlo was going to kill her if she messed up, but its not like she said that with fear or anxiety, or gave any indication it was anything other than proper villain etiquette (you mess up, you die). It's fairly common in OP for villains to threaten to or actually follow through with killing their subordinates who mess up, and it really just looks like that here. She doesn't sound coareced into this arrangement like Nami was with Arlong, or in any way in need of saving.

There's really no reason to think she's anything other than an unusually-powered henchwoman/spy/bodyguard.

[Urouge]

@nonectra:

I'm still surprised that people use that quote as proof of anything. Ten is probably the minimum number we'll get, yes, but that's from way back in the beginning, back when Oda seriously thought this would be a manga that ran for 5 years. The story and series has expanded since then and I wouldn't be surprised at all if there were more than 10 members of the crew… but not too many more, I hope.

Because it's a legitimate quote and the only answer we have to this point. Oda's pretty good at foreshadowing, you know. It certainly stands better as evidence than "well, maybe he changed his mind!" Especially when, to this point, nothing at all has happened to make us think he did.

So yes, 10 (plus Luffy) is the most likely number. I won't go as far as to say it can be written in stone, but I'd be shocked if it wound up being any other number at all.

[nonectra]

@Urouge:

Because it's a legitimate quote and the only answer we have to this point. Oda's pretty good at foreshadowing, you know. It certainly stands better as evidence than "well, maybe he changed his mind!" Especially when, to this point, nothing at all has happened to make us think he did.

So yes, 10 (plus Luffy) is the most likely number. I won't go as far as to say it can be written in stone, but I'd be shocked if it wound up being any other number at all.

But the line is already ambiguous. It says "I think about 10 men should do." There's nothing definitive in there. I'm well-aware that he's really good at foreshadowing, but this doesn't strike me as a line that's intended to be gospel. Granted, I'm not saying it won't be 10, because that's a very legitimate possibility, but I would be surprised if we didn't get one or two more than that.

[ShrewOne]

@Drake_Cloud:

I don't get why people think this chapter's upped Monet's chances. If anything, its basically ended them. She's shown herself to be a completely loyal and competent subordinate of a major villain, and is now actively stopping Luffy from getting to CC. At this point in Alabasta, Robin was clearly shown to have her own personal agenda separate from Croc's and had offered to help out the crew along with saving Luffy's life, which culminated in the underground scene with Luffy and the revelation that she wasn't such a bad guy after all.

Sure Monet said DoFlo was going to kill her if she messed up, but its not like she said that with fear or anxiety, or gave any indication it was anything other than proper villain etiquette (you mess up, you die). It's fairly common in OP for villains to threaten to or actually follow through with killing their subordinates who mess up, and it really just looks like that here. She doesn't sound coareced into this arrangement like Nami was with Arlong, or in any way in need of saving.

There's really no reason to think she's anything other than an unusually-powered henchwoman/spy/bodyguard.

I wouldn't compare this with Robin. We don't know Monet enough to know her situation. On the last page Luffy is putting his hat back on and it looks like they just got done talking, so it appears he isn't going to fight her. What I'm questioning is why she mentioned being killed by Doflamingo at all. She obviously wanted Luffy to know that if he "kills" Caesar, then she dies as well. It's like she's telling him not to indirectly kill her. Throughout punk hazard, she seems impressed with the Straw Hats power, and in this particular chapter she is impressed by Luffy's strength. I wouldn't be surprised if she wants the Straw Hats help to resolve whatever is going on between her and Doflamingo.

[Elfman]

@Urouge:

Because it's a legitimate quote and the only answer we have to this point. Oda's pretty good at foreshadowing, you know. It certainly stands better as evidence than "well, maybe he changed his mind!" Especially when, to this point, nothing at all has happened to make us think he did.

So yes, 10 (plus Luffy) is the most likely number. I won't go as far as to say it can be written in stone, but I'd be shocked if it wound up being any other number at all.

Of course there will be more then 10 everybody can figure that out, we're almost at 10 already and the story is just at the half way point. Are you trying to say that when Jinbe joins we only have one person from the New World who will join ?

Besides for the crew dynamics Oda needs new charachters to keep it refreshing, otherwise the pervert, super, disease, skull, beli, dark, dumb, getting lost, compliment jokes will get old really fast. New members -> new relationships -> new interactions. Just like Kinemon is fitting in right now, his samurai jokes are distracting from the fact that we don't have to hear the same old Strawhat jokes.

Just like nonectra said Oda never imagined OP would run this long so how can it be good foreshadowing >.>

[RomanceDawn]

@Elfman:

Of course there will be more then 10 everybody can figure that out, we're almost at 10 already and the story is just at the half way point. Are you trying to say that when Jinbe joins we only have one person from the New World who will join ?

Besides for the crew dynamics Oda needs new charachters to keep it refreshing, otherwise the pervert, super, disease, skull, beli, dark, dumb, getting lost, compliment jokes will get old really fast. New members -> new relationships -> new interactions. Just like Kinemon is fitting in right now, his samurai jokes are distracting from the fact that we don't have to hear the same old Strawhat jokes.

Just like nonectra said Oda never imagined OP would run this long so how can it be good foreshadowing >.>

I personally think it will be 11 members total, not counting honorary members Vivi and Caroo.

But those beli, disease, skull, pervert jokes have been the staple for almost 15 years and they will last another 10 years. The fact that they are always traveling and partnering with new people won't allow their quirks to become stale when you consider how Oda has handled them all this time.

So yeah Jinbe and one more guy or girl for the rest of the series. That is until Black Beard is revealed to have a crew of 14, not counting Stronger/ Strong Heart.

Oh and it's good foreshadowing because within the story Oda has basically kept his word on all major declarations. He may have a bad mental time frame for what goes on in real life, but within the story he super consistent.

[BobLoblaw]

I'm still betting on 10 total. For every new SH that Oda adds, he'll have to give them an entire arc and I just can't see that happening in the NW, especially with so many storylines already set up. Not only that, but he'd have to also had a corresponding number to each crew in my avatar. Right now, with Jinbei, the SHs equal the main pirates in the BB pirates and Red Hair Pirates. Also, 10 is a nice round number. Too many more than that and characters start to disappear (i.e. Franky).

[Urouge]

@nonectra:

But the line is already ambiguous. It says "I think about 10 men should do." There's nothing definitive in there. I'm well-aware that he's really good at foreshadowing, but this doesn't strike me as a line that's intended to be gospel. Granted, I'm not saying it won't be 10, because that's a very legitimate possibility, but I would be surprised if we didn't get one or two more than that.

How much do you really know about that line? I'm hesitant to quote stephen's translations as much as I used to since he's working for Viz now, but his translation of that line was "ten should do it!" There's nothing ambiguous about it at all that I'm aware of. This manga has already gone far longer than Oda thought it would, but even so many years later he's still on course to finish with the same number he planned for, so I see no reason to assume that will change.

Now, take this part with a grain of salt as I don't treat it as proof, but I do feel that it's worth mentioning. This scene from chapter 1 in the manga was never animated until the end of Luffy's flashback after the war. If I remember his schedule correctly, Oda works with the anime team two days per week, and that line was left ENTIRELY untouched.

@Elfman:

Of course there will be more then 10 everybody can figure that out, we're almost at 10 already and the story is just at the half way point. Are you trying to say that when Jinbe joins we only have one person from the New World who will join ?

Besides for the crew dynamics Oda needs new charachters to keep it refreshing, otherwise the pervert, super, disease, skull, beli, dark, dumb, getting lost, compliment jokes will get old really fast. New members -> new relationships -> new interactions. Just like Kinemon is fitting in right now, his samurai jokes are distracting from the fact that we don't have to hear the same old Strawhat jokes.

Just like nonectra said Oda never imagined OP would run this long so how can it be good foreshadowing >.>

Yes, that's what I'm saying. Are you saying that someone will join near the end of the series with little to no time left for character development? Brook and even Franky joined near the end of the first half of the grand line, and if not for them there'd only be two who joined in the entire first half. I seriously doubt something like that will happen for the new world, because there would be very little time left to integrate them into the crew.

Kinemon is living proof that Oda can bring in new characters to do all those things you worry about without having them actually join the crew.

[Blowfish]

Does anyone remember the databook where Oda wrote "Will they at least add another person in the New World?" next to a picture of Luffy before setting out to sea declaring his ten that he wanted for sure.

What confuses me is that Oda says there are currently 9 Straw hats.

So maybe he does count Luffy?

[Crocodyne]

@Blowfish:

What confuses me is that Oda says they're currently 9 Straw hats.

Where's exctly stated? I'm not sure about that :
Oh, hey, maybe he already counts Jinbe in the crew :ninja:

[Blowfish]

@Crocodyne:

Where's exctly stated? I'm not sure about that :
Oh, hey, maybe he already counts Jinbe in the crew :ninja:

I think it was in OP Green.

And between you and me yea he does. :ninja:

Hell even the fandom have pretty much accepted he'll join.

[[except a few Jinbetheists]]

[Urouge]

@Blowfish:

Does anyone remember the databook where Oda wrote "Will they at least add another person in the New World?" next to a picture of Luffy before setting out to sea declaring his ten that he wanted for sure.

What confuses me is that Oda says there are currently 9 Straw hats.

So maybe he does count Luffy?

Zoro was labeled as "the first" and Brook was labeled as "the eighth" (and most others got corresponding numbers in between) which should carry a significant amount of weight. Evidence suggests that Oda sees it as captain and crew. So while there are 9 straw hats, there are 8 crew members.

I also seem to recall Oda wanting the crew to emulate a soccer team, which uses 11 total people, and further supports the idea. I don't remember which interview that was in order to reference it, though.

[gemadog7]

He's going to have ten people, at least that's what he said, Luffy always get's what he wants.

Spoiler Alert

Accept of Ace dieing but hey, he was helpless.

[Strelok]

Sabo is not dead.

He is the last nakama. :ninja:

[Drake_Cloud]

@Urouge:

I also seem to recall Oda wanting the crew to emulate a soccer team, which uses 11 total people, and further supports the idea. I don't remember which interview that was in order to reference it, though.

That would be an interesting SBS actually. If the SH were a soccer team, who would play what?

[Strelok]

@Drake_Cloud:

That would be an interesting SBS actually. If the SH were a soccer team, who would play what?

I don't know about soccer but I can tell you about football. :ninja:

[Don Quichotte De Flamingo]

Luffy as goalkeeper
Franky as a defender
Brook as a defender (because he is tall)
Nami as a coach
Chopper as medical support
Sanji as a forward

Rest would play in the middle or as forwards..don`t see special goods for either position for them

[Pookiez]

Just leaving this here:

[Autumncomet]

@Urouge:

Zoro was labeled as "the first" and Brook was labeled as "the eighth" (and most others got corresponding numbers in between) which should carry a significant amount of weight. Evidence suggests that Oda sees it as captain and crew. So while there are 9 straw hats, there are 8 crew members.

I also seem to recall Oda wanting the crew to emulate a soccer team, which uses 11 total people, and further supports the idea. I don't remember which interview that was in order to reference it, though.

Would he be counting Vivi and Carue and giving them numbers eventually? Merry and the Thousand Sunny?

[Drake_Cloud]

@Don:

Luffy as goalkeeper
Franky as a defender
Brook as a defender (because he is tall)
Nami as a coach
Chopper as medical support
Sanji as a forward

Rest would play in the middle or as forwards..don`t see special goods for either position for them

What? How can you miss Robin for Keeper? I think she'd be very handy there.

[Strelok]

@Drake_Cloud:

What? How can you miss Robin for Keeper? I think she'd be very handy there.

Or guard point Chopper. :ninja:

[KaizokuJinbei]

Don't know about soccer but for football

QB: Usopp (he is the Sniper so he can be more precise with throws)
LB: Zoro and Franky
Center: Nami
RB: Luffy (Gear second speed makes for a good RB)
HB: Brook
WR: Chopper (jump point), Robin, and Sanji (Robins DF power, Sanji Sky Walk, and Choppers jump ability make for good WRs)

[Strelok]

@KaizokuJinbei:

Don't know about soccer but for football

QB: Usopp (he is the Sniper so he can be more precise with throws)
LB: Zoro and Franky
Center: Nami
RB: Luffy (Gear second speed makes for a good RB)
HB: Brook
WR: Chopper (jump point), Robin, and Sanji (Robins DF power, Sanji Sky Walk, and Choppers jump ability make for good WRs)

I think you mean rugby. :ninja:

[Sagippio]

@Strelok:

I think you mean rugby. :ninja:

I think he means eggball. :ninja:

[Urouge]

@Strelok:

I don't know about soccer but I can tell you about football. :ninja:

Yeah, I get that the name is different on the other side of the world, but there's a key difference. When I say soccer, everyone knows what that means, so it's what I'll always use on an international forum. When I say football, there's a lot of disagreement (so I tend to use American football for our kind if I remember to).

@Autumncomet:

Would he be counting Vivi and Carue and giving them numbers eventually? Merry and the Thousand Sunny?

No. Vivi and Carue are honorary members, but they declined their invitations. We never got numbers for Chopper and Robin, while only 5 and 6 are unaccounted for, and that's probably at least partially because Oda didn't want to show his hand with the uncertainty of who was joining and whether or not Robin was going to betray them. If Vivi and Carue were deserving of numbers, it would have been in that 5-6 range, which are obviously reserved for Chopper and Robin.

Merry and Sunny are ships, not crew members. Even being alive doesn't change that. Merry's chance of being allotted a number, much like Vivi and Carue, has long passed.

[Free awesomness]

IMO there will be around 11-12 members, but i wouldnt mind if there would be only 10\. Dont forget that there will be a lot of allied people/groups with the SH and supporting characters have always been good. So we don`t need to worry about variety. The last member must be a girl though (we lack females).

[BobLoblaw]

@Free:

IMO there will be around 11-12 members, but i wouldnt mind if there would be only 10\. Dont forget that there will be a lot of allied people/groups with the SH and supporting characters have always been good. So we don`t need to worry about variety. The last member must be a girl though (we lack females).

I have a hard time understanding why some people think that the SHs need another female aside from the T&A factor. I mean, how many pirate crews in the OP world have two, much less three, female pirates? Big Mom (assuming the three-eyed girl is a member) and the Foxy Pirates are the only ones that I can think of? Pirating is a male dominated "job" in OP as well it should be. I think having two women is enough. Having more than that and you'll probably end up with women fighting men (which is tricky seeing a man beat up on a woman) or them not having much to do (Nico Robin's last true one on one was how long ago?). Don't get me wrong, I don't have anything against women, I just don't think there needs to be three in the SH crew. Of course, if Oda wanted to troll Sanji and have a hideous woman (who was infatuated with him) join I might bite, but other than that, I think we already have a decent amount of supporting women in the OP world considering how male dominated it is anyway.

[gemadog7]

Your post feel sexest.

No offense.

[King Cannon]

@Don:

Luffy as goalkeeper
Franky as a defender
Brook as a defender (because he is tall)
Nami as a coach
Chopper as medical support
Sanji as a forward

Rest would play in the middle or as forwards..don`t see special goods for either position for them

No. Franky would be the goalkeeper. Even Oda thinks so.

Luffy and Sanji = Forwards
Chopper and Brook = Defenders
Nami and Usopp = Playmakers (the creative ones)

Zoro and Robin could play anywhere, I think.

[Peal]

@gemadog7:

Your post feel sexest.

No offense.

One Piece is a story for young boys(shonen), it's going to cater to boys. There is no quota for the crew, and simply wanting something because it fills a quota is rather dumb if you ask me. I would rather have a fishman or another girl because I like their personality and character, as opposed to just filling some niche of not having a certain thing. One Piece doesn't need a lot of women because historically not many women were pirates; and if they were on a ship they were pretty much just there to be comfort women, tossed around between men and what not against their will. The crew doesn't NEED more women, the fans just want more fap-fuel.

Honestly you should probably be thankful for what we got now, as far as "sexism" goes, Nami and Robin are kind of actually really innovating for the medium of shonen.

People bitch about them being in swimsuits and whatnot, I myself would just call it liberation. Freedom. They're pirates, they do what the fuck they want, as does Franky in his bikini bottom, hehe. But yeah seriously, Nami and Robin might not be the "strong" members of the crew that win all the fights, but who says they need to be? Oda oddly portrays women with a sort of real strength to them, albeit with exceptions here and there. Nami and Robin are good as crew members like Usopp is, they're helpful in their own different ways. They don't need to be ultra-badass. Nami is the navigator and generally the person who keeps the goofballs in line, while Robin is the quiet one that can offer wisdom on a few subjects.

They're really underlooked characters if you think about it. Compare them to how females are handled in Fairy Tail or Naruto and I think you'll find that One Piece handles it's ladies in a much more dignified manner, yet down to earth enough to the point where it's not "FUCK YEAH ULTRA FEMENISM".To be entirely honest; as a heterosexual man I am totally okay with Oda adding another pair of TnA to the ensemble. However what most people don't seem to get is that's it's not a requirement, it's not some sort of checklist that needs to be filled out, and that can apply to anything in One Piece really. We could've had a carpenter back when the foxy arc ended, yet I think it's pretty obvious why we didn't. Oda doesn't fill quotas, he drafts characters that mesh well together and puts them on a ship, so we can enjoy them for years to come.

Will we be having another lady friend onboard? That's hard to predict. All I can garuntee is that if there is one, they will be an interesting and unique addition.

…. And somehow I got to that from the sexism thing. Sorry about that tangent folks.

[MiyamotoMusashi]

I recently read an article stating that 88% of OP readers or rather buyers (in Japan) are adults, 12% are even over 50 (i was like WTF). The number of female buyers is even slightly above the male number. These are probably numbers that Oda also knows. The thing is though, Oda never striked me as a mangaka who thinks too much about how to please the audience (of course it is part of it) but he rather writes a story he really wants to write himself. Obviously, he has to follow the restrictions of Jump, which is a Shonen Magazine, but other than that i do not think that Oda necessarily has a main target as audience, thus if he really wanted another female in the crew he just would write it.

[BobLoblaw]

@Peal:

One Piece is a story for young boys(shonen), it's going to cater to boys. There is no quota for the crew, and simply wanting something because it fills a quota is rather dumb if you ask me. I would rather have a fishman or another girl because I like their personality and character, as opposed to just filling some niche of not having a certain thing. One Piece doesn't need a lot of women because historically not many women were pirates; and if they were on a ship they were pretty much just there to be comfort women, tossed around between men and what not against their will. The crew doesn't NEED more women, the fans just want more fap-fuel.

Honestly you should probably be thankful for what we got now, as far as "sexism" goes, Nami and Robin are kind of actually really innovating for the medium of shonen.

People bitch about them being in swimsuits and whatnot, I myself would just call it liberation. Freedom. They're pirates, they do what the fuck they want, as does Franky in his bikini bottom, hehe. But yeah seriously, Nami and Robin might not be the "strong" members of the crew that win all the fights, but who says they need to be? Oda oddly portrays women with a sort of real strength to them, albeit with exceptions here and there. Nami and Robin are good as crew members like Usopp is, they're helpful in their own different ways. They don't need to be ultra-badass. Nami is the navigator and generally the person who keeps the goofballs in line, while Robin is the quiet one that can offer wisdom on a few subjects.

They're really underlooked characters if you think about it. Compare them to how females are handled in Fairy Tail or Naruto and I think you'll find that One Piece handles it's ladies in a much more dignified manner, yet down to earth enough to the point where it's not "FUCK YEAH ULTRA FEMENISM".To be entirely honest; as a heterosexual man I am totally okay with Oda adding another pair of TnA to the ensemble. However what most people don't seem to get is that's it's not a requirement, it's not some sort of checklist that needs to be filled out, and that can apply to anything in One Piece really. We could've had a carpenter back when the foxy arc ended, yet I think it's pretty obvious why we didn't. Oda doesn't fill quotas, he drafts characters that mesh well together and puts them on a ship, so we can enjoy them for years to come.

Will we be having another lady friend onboard? That's hard to predict. All I can garuntee is that if there is one, they will be an interesting and unique addition.

…. And somehow I got to that from the sexism thing. Sorry about that tangent folks.

Couldn't have said it better myself. Kudos!

[Money and Spades]

People keep criticizing PH cuz its alot like Alabasta, BUT ITS STILL A PIMPIN ARC!! And the only reason people thought this is becuz Monet gave Chopper a map, but nothin up to that was anything like Alabasta. And wasnt Robin personality unknown until she join?

[Autumncomet]

Well, not all of us are straight/bisexual men or lesbian/bisexual women. If Oda brings in another crew member, and they happen to be female, great. If they don't, great. Whatever works for the story; I don't think demographics, appeal, or fanservice will really have anything to do with it.

@BobLoblaw:

you'll probably end up with women fighting men (which is tricky seeing a man beat up on a woman)

Nothing wrong with this. If that female character is a really good physical fighter or someone with a DF that works well with one-on-one fighting, then they should get that fight, male opponent or not. Showing women beating up and getting beat up just as much as the men is a good next step towards equality!

e: I love the similarities to Alabasta, that was one of my favorite arcs with my favorite villain.

[Money and Spades]

WHY THE F DO PEOPLE THINK MONET WILL JOIN LAW!? THEYVE ONLY TALKED 3 panels max.

[Noqanky]

@Money:

WHY THE F DO PEOPLE THINK MONET WILL JOIN LAW!? THEYVE ONLY TALKED 3 panels max.

I suppose it's mostly the fact that she seems like someone who schemes, and shares that with Law.
Also, Law has her heart.
Also, her telling Chopper to chill could imply that she and Law were scheming together.
Also, the fact the chains put on Law happened to be made of normal metal implies Monet made sure of that.

Not saying she's in on the scheming or anything, but I can see why people would consider she's working with Law. Although after this last chapter the issue is considerably more confusing.

[Money and Spades]

@Noqanky:

I suppose it's mostly the fact that she seems like someone who schemes, and shares that with Law. Also, Law has her heart. Also, her telling Chopper to chill could imply that she and Law were scheming together. Also, the fact the chains put on Law happened to be made of normal metal implies Monet made sure of that. Not saying she's in on the scheming or anything, but I can see why people would consider she's working with Law. Although after this last chapter the issue is considerably more confusing.

Good comeback, bro. But Law is the only one to have been shown recruiting somone already. I personality dont care who she joins, but the SH have to go kick Doflamingo's ass soon.

[nonectra]

@Money:

Good comeback, bro. But Law is the only one to have been shown recruiting somone already. I personality dont care who she joins, but the SH have to go kick Doflamingo's ass soon.

A little off-topic, but this made me think that a Luffy + Law tag-team against Doflamingo would be pretty awesome and a really good way to counter Doflamingo's probable String-related ability with Law's Room and Op-Op stuff.

[Pookiez]

@Money:

Good comeback, bro. But Law is the only one to have been shown recruiting somone already. I personality dont care who she joins, but the SH have to go kick Doflamingo's ass soon.

You are forgetting buggy, his crew is massive due to recruits in impel down.

Edit: Just realized BB also has a lot of recruits.

[Robby]

@MiyamotoMusashi:

I recently read an article stating that 88% of OP readers or rather buyers (in Japan) are adults, 12% are even over 50 (i was like WTF).

Because the series has been running for 15 years. Anyone that was 10 when it started is a 25 year old adult now.

[MohMoo]

@RobbyBevard:

Because the series has been running for 15 years. Anyone that was 10 when it started is a 25 year old adult now.

and the fact that in Japan, manga is not considered to be just for kids
no social stigma for adult manga readers

[Free awesomness]

@BobLoblaw:

I have a hard time understanding why some people think that the SHs need another female aside from the T&A factor. I mean, how many pirate crews in the OP world have two, much less three, female pirates? Big Mom (assuming the three-eyed girl is a member) and the Foxy Pirates are the only ones that I can think of? Pirating is a male dominated "job" in OP as well it should be. I think having two women is enough. Having more than that and you'll probably end up with women fighting men (which is tricky seeing a man beat up on a woman) or them not having much to do (Nico Robin's last true one on one was how long ago?). Don't get me wrong, I don't have anything against women, I just don't think there needs to be three in the SH crew. Of course, if Oda wanted to troll Sanji and have a hideous woman (who was infatuated with him) join I might bite, but other than that, I think we already have a decent amount of supporting women in the OP world considering how male dominated it is anyway.

I agree with you. I never said Sh need a female, i think it would be refreshing. It was a subjective statement, i`d prefer woman over man. Anyway i will probably like anyone that joins the crew.

[rereboy]

@MohMoo:

no social stigma for adult manga readers

That's not exactly true.

[MasterKingJC]

@Money:

And the only reason people thought this is becuz Monet gave Chopper a map

Since when did Monet give Chopper a map?

All we know is that Chopper got a piece of paper that read "Don't do anything yet." Whether it's from Monet or not is yet to be revealed.

[Urouge]

@Noqanky:

Also, her telling Chopper to chill could imply that she and Law were scheming together.
Also, the fact the chains put on Law happened to be made of normal metal implies Monet made sure of that.

I don't agree that either of these things happened. I'd sooner credit Law with both.

[Free awesomness]

@MasterKingJC:

Since when did Monet give Chopper a map?

All we know is that Chopper got a piece of paper that read "Don't do anything yet." Whether it's from Monet or not is yet to be revealed.

Indeed it hasnt been revealed yet, but think logicaly for a moment. We can be pretty sure that Vergo and Caesar didnt throw the paper for obvious reasons. Who is left then? Monet, those horsy-guys, maybe sheep-dudes or someone who we don`t know yet (momonosuke). If you take these in concern with the fact that Monet saw Choper, while he was escaping the room, Monet is the most plausible person.

Do not neglect the most obvious options, just because you don`t like it.

[MiyamotoMusashi]

@Free:

Indeed it hasnt been revealed yet, but think logicaly for a moment. We can be pretty sure that Vergo and Caesar didnt throw the paper for obvious reasons. Who is left then? Monet, those horsy-guys, maybe sheep-dudes or someone who we don`t know yet (momonosuke). If you take these in concern with the fact that Monet saw Choper, while he was escaping the room, Monet is the most plausible person.

Do not neglect the most obvious options, just because you don`t like it.

The most obvious option would be Law throwing the paper since he was the only one who knew that Chopper was there. Besides, what reason would she have to help Chopper after doing something like this:

http://www.batoto.net/read/_/107517/one-piece_ch671_by_mangarule/16

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There's also the fact that we saw what was on the paper, and it was not a map.

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@MiyamotoMusashi:

The most obvious option would be Law throwing the paper since he was the only one who knew that Chopper was there. Besides, what reason would she have to help Chopper after doing something like this:

http://www.batoto.net/read/_/107517/one-piece_ch671_by_mangarule/16

Damn it, i forgot Law. I still have a feeling that she was the one who throw the paper. Her background is too much of a mystery for now. I always thought they have some kind of a relationship between them, as they both worked for Bird-guy. I wouldn´t be surpised if she was in cahoots with him from the begining.

Offtopic: Amazing avatar by the way. Your work?

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@Free:

Damn it, i forgot Law. I still have a feeling that she was the one who throw the paper. Her background is too much of a mystery for now. I always thought they have some kind of a relationship between them, as they both worked for Bird-guy. I wouldn´t be surpised if she was in cahoots with him from the begining.

Offtopic: Amazing avatar by the way. Your work?

Like the link above already suggested, she would have no reason whatsoever to give Law´s heart to Vergo if she was working with Law. Besides, the moment they were alone in the lab, the situation was rather awkward. We also do not know when Monet started working for DD and when Law stopped working for him. Vergo said that Law grep up pretty well suggesting that it has been a long time that Law worked for DD.

Concerning the Avatar, i did not draw but saw it here: http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=19702427