I think it's a tricky line to walk when you try to distinguish an artist away from their work. I think even more so when the artist in question is still alive and thus can still likely make profits off of their work. I guess what I'm trying to say is that I probably would not support something, regardless of the quality of the work, if my money would support (thus "condoning") the artist's negative habits.
So if I like your work and you're a douche die already so I don't have to feel guilty. 
The closest I've gotten to that was when I was reading 3001 and was constantly rolling my eyes at Arthur Clarke's soapboxing on religion and his ideal of the future. Fortunately he regained points with the babysitting velociraptors (I burst out laughing after reading that part and then seeing that the book was written shortly after Jurassic Park was released).
By the end of this month I'm supposed to write an essay considering which areas of film jobs I wish to specialize in in my education program. My choices are editing and scriptwriting. Now, I understand scriptwriting is different from writing literature, but two of the questions that I have to answer had me thinking regardless. Among other stuff I need to do research on which qualities and talents are required from the orientations I chose AND state reasons for why I should be allowed to study them.
So, I guess my question for this month for you guys is this: what qualities do you have that you consider being useful or essential for writing? Which of those are your best ones? Do you think you have talent~? Is there always some talent involved in authors or can one become a good writer by simply studying its craft?
Okay that was multiple questions but whatever. This may have been discussed earlier so forgive me if I'm playing a broken record. I just started thinking about those questions since this essay I'm writing may have an effect on whether or not I'm chosen for the scriptwriting/editing groups… so it's kind of crucial to present myself properly. And I also believe that it's important to pat yourself in the back every once in a while and acknowledge your talents.
If you're talking about qualities useful for the act of writing itself and not actually writing, then there's a good little list I believe are qualities most writers should adhere to. Namely: patience, attention to detail, the ability to accept criticism (which I think is a big one), being able to learn from other perspectives and of course, a creative but practical mind. Among these qualities, attention to detail is about the only one I truly excel at and I'm sad to say that I'm sorely lacking in some of the others.
I don't think I'm particularly talented at all. I think talent exists and it's possible for people to have a natural knack for writing but the majority of my writing ability comes from experience, peer reviewing and experimentation and observation. I believe everyone has the ability to be a great writer and that, over time, their writing skill can excel. As long as you're able to accept and acknowledge your mistakes, you can thrive as a writer.
I think orson scott card is a garbage writer and a garbage human being
win-win life right here, it's the bomb
no no NO NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
http://www.mediabistro.com/galleycat/sylvain-reynard-lands-substantial-seven-figure-deal_b55229
brb crying forever
Twilight fanfiction
I'm sensing a pattern
Look forward to a new rewrite of Concerto di Ali.
with vampires and werewolves
and 90% less political intrigue
and over one-hundred and seventeen new scenes involving genitalia ramming against each other in verbal ecstasy
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Twilight fanfiction
I'm sensing a pattern
Look forward to a new rewrite of Concerto di Ali.
with vampires and werewolves
and 90% less political intrigue
and over one-hundred and seventeen new scenes involving genitalia ramming against each other in verbal ecstasy
Sounds like my cup of tea, honestly.
well, to be fair, I already had werewolves.~
Pssh…
Thriller Blend already has vampires and werewolves in the first chapter. Now I just need to quickly accelerate all the characters' ages and have them bump freakies.
I guess this calls for a brainstorming session to figure out how we can shoehorn gratuitous and exploitive Harlequinn sex and emotionally abusive relationships into our stories.
I can smell the middle-aged female audience dollars already!
Well, Kitsune was going to organize another skype session day tomorrow…
YES. Topic: "An Exchange of Ideas Involving the Exchange of Bodily Fluids: A Morning and Evening with Sex"
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In my story, Dwarves can now become werewolves on the full moon.
And no more adventure plot! Three vampire vixens will appear in the next chapter to fall for our heroes.
And it'll be all mysterious and one of the vampires will be all brooding and "You just can't be near me I'm dangerous." But true love will always work in the end, man.
@Kitty:
YES. Topic: "An Exchange of Ideas Involving the Exchange of Bodily Fluids: A Morning and Evening with Sex"
With guest appearances by "that one guy that's completely bad for you and will never be a good option" and "that other guy that's also completely bad for you but is seemingly better by not outwardly expressing his disdain for you, rather, expressing it through feigned kindness in order to use you for your body".
We will be discussing why you should love these men and they will discuss with us how much they can't stand you or your fat hips, face and ass.
YES. Topic: "An Exchange of Ideas Involving the Exchange of Bodily Fluids: A Morning and Evening with Sex"
I have a serious urge to call in sick just so I can experience this.
REWRITE OF THE CLIMACTIC BATTLE BETWEEN ALYSA AND DIMITRI (NSFW)
! Alysa stared at Dimitri as he unsheathed his sword and held it to her throat. On the battlefield, she would never allow a man to get his sword three feet near her, but in here, it did not matter. The strong woman facade melted away as Alysa felt those primal needs well up to the surface. A need to be ravaged that boiled underneath every inch of her untouched skin.
! She felt his eyes as they scanned every inch of her frame. His eyes were filled with complete hatred. Anger. Lust. She could feel his intense emotions radiate off of this thick chest and bear down on her like a boulder. Her own feelings began to erupt from within as she gasped excitedly.
! In response to this, Dimitri sheathed his blade and clenched her arm tightly. The strength of his grip would surely bruise her, but she did not care. It was merely to be a "battle scar", a well-deserved one. He pulled her body close as his strong breath invaded her skin, the scent of his earlier supper awakening a deep hunger within her. A hunger to sup.
! She pounced him fiercely and shredded away at his clothes. She wanted nothing more than to take him. And for him to take her. A mutual murder. Yes, that would be ideal. When finally they were bare skinned, she sank her teeth into his neck and tried her damnedest to suckle on his blood. Of course, her teeth did not break his skin, but she still allowed herself to imagine the sweetness of his life force dribbling into her throat. Though of course, blood was not the only life force she planned to drink tonight.
! Before that, she moved her ravenous lips to Dimitri's, locking them in a passionate prison of sheer lust. She began to suck, stealing away his breath, another source of life. She nibbled at his tongue, careful to tighten her own around his, surely to rip it out when the time was right.
! While her lips and tongue continued to torture the enemy's respiratory system, her small hands ran along his chiseled stomach and down to his large pulsating manhood. She clenched it tightly and nudged it along into her vagina, trapping her opponent in an unwavering clenching maw. She had all of him where she wanted him as she squeezed her legs together as he continued to pulsate inside of her. She moved her hands to his back, holding on tightly, as with every push and every thrust her prey struggled to escape. She could not allow that. She would not allow that.
! She meant to strike the killing blow, but she felt her own lifeforce begin to pulsate as she reached an untimely climax. She felt his penis charge forth inside her as all of her senses blurred.
! But then Jorvan arrived, stark naked. He leapt on Dimitri's back and thrust himself into Dimitri's flank, ready to prove himself a soldier of Vitrasbaen.
:I This stopped being fun a while ago…
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I should rewrite the upcoming battles in Stargazer to be full of nothing but S&M allusions, but I'm lazy.
REWRITE OF THE CLIMACTIC BATTLE BETWEEN ALYSA AND DIMITRI (NSFW)
! Alysa stared at Dimitri as he unsheathed his sword and held it to her throat. On the battlefield, she would never allow a man to get his sword three feet near her, but in here, it did not matter. The strong woman facade melted away as Alysa felt those primal needs well up to the surface. A need to be ravaged that boiled underneath every inch of her untouched skin.
! She felt his eyes as they scanned every inch of her frame. His eyes were filled with complete hatred. Anger. Lust. She could feel his intense emotions radiate off of this thick chest and bear down on her like a boulder. Her own feelings began to erupt from within as she gasped excitedly.
! In response to this, Dimitri sheathed his blade and clenched her arm tightly. The strength of his grip would surely bruise her, but she did not care. It was merely to be a "battle scar", a well-deserved one. He pulled her body close as his strong breath invaded her skin, the scent of his earlier supper awakening a deep hunger within her. A hunger to sup.
! She pounced him fiercely and shredded away at his clothes. She wanted nothing more than to take him. And for him to take her. A mutual murder. Yes, that would be ideal. When finally they were bare skinned, she sank her teeth into his neck and tried her damnedest to suckle on his blood. Of course, her teeth did not break his skin, but she still allowed herself to imagine the sweetness of his life force dribbling into her throat. Though of course, blood was not the only life force she planned to drink tonight.
! Before that, she moved her ravenous lips to Dimitri's, locking them in a passionate prison of sheer lust. She began to suck, stealing away his breath, another source of life. She nibbled at his tongue, careful to tighten her own around his, surely to rip it out when the time was right.
! While her lips and tongue continued to torture the enemy's respiratory system, her small hands ran along his chiseled stomach and down to his large pulsating manhood. She clenched it tightly and nudged it along into her vagina, trapping her opponent in an unwavering clenching maw. She had all of him where she wanted him as she squeezed her legs together as he continued to pulsate inside of her. She moved her hands to his back, holding on tightly, as with every push and every thrust her prey struggled to escape. She could not allow that. She would not allow that.
! She meant to strike the killing blow, but she felt her own lifeforce begin to pulsate as she reached an untimely climax. She felt his penis charge forth inside her as all of her senses blurred.
! But then Jorvan arrived, stark naked. He leapt on Dimitri's back and thrust himself into Dimitri's flank, ready to prove himself a soldier of Vitrasbaen.:I This stopped being fun a while ago…
I need a cigarette.
And dry pants.
REWRITE OF THE CLIMACTIC BATTLE BETWEEN ALYSA AND DIMITRI (NSFW)
! Alysa stared at Dimitri as he unsheathed his sword and held it to her throat. On the battlefield, she would never allow a man to get his sword three feet near her, but in here, it did not matter. The strong woman facade melted away as Alysa felt those primal needs well up to the surface. A need to be ravaged that boiled underneath every inch of her untouched skin.
! She felt his eyes as they scanned every inch of her frame. His eyes were filled with complete hatred. Anger. Lust. She could feel his intense emotions radiate off of this thick chest and bear down on her like a boulder. Her own feelings began to erupt from within as she gasped excitedly.
! In response to this, Dimitri sheathed his blade and clenched her arm tightly. The strength of his grip would surely bruise her, but she did not care. It was merely to be a "battle scar", a well-deserved one. He pulled her body close as his strong breath invaded her skin, the scent of his earlier supper awakening a deep hunger within her. A hunger to sup.
! She pounced him fiercely and shredded away at his clothes. She wanted nothing more than to take him. And for him to take her. A mutual murder. Yes, that would be ideal. When finally they were bare skinned, she sank her teeth into his neck and tried her damnedest to suckle on his blood. Of course, her teeth did not break his skin, but she still allowed herself to imagine the sweetness of his life force dribbling into her throat. Though of course, blood was not the only life force she planned to drink tonight.
! Before that, she moved her ravenous lips to Dimitri's, locking them in a passionate prison of sheer lust. She began to suck, stealing away his breath, another source of life. She nibbled at his tongue, careful to tighten her own around his, surely to rip it out when the time was right.
! While her lips and tongue continued to torture the enemy's respiratory system, her small hands ran along his chiseled stomach and down to his large pulsating manhood. She clenched it tightly and nudged it along into her vagina, trapping her opponent in an unwavering clenching maw. She had all of him where she wanted him as she squeezed her legs together as he continued to pulsate inside of her. She moved her hands to his back, holding on tightly, as with every push and every thrust her prey struggled to escape. She could not allow that. She would not allow that.
! She meant to strike the killing blow, but she felt her own lifeforce begin to pulsate as she reached an untimely climax. She felt his penis charge forth inside her as all of her senses blurred.
! But then Jorvan arrived, stark naked. He leapt on Dimitri's back and thrust himself into Dimitri's flank, ready to prove himself a soldier of Vitrasbaen.:I This stopped being fun a while ago…
This is… like... the most terrible thing I've ever read.
It's decided. I'm greenlighting Concerto di Ali - OVERSEXED EDITION, right after Concerto di Ali for Furries.
Fucking smart.
So, I guess my question for this month for you guys is this: what qualities do you have that you consider being useful or essential for writing? Which of those are your best ones? Do you think you have talent~? Is there always some talent involved in authors or can one become a good writer by simply studying its craft?
For qualities that would be very helpful for writing I put attentiveness to detail, experimentation, perserverance, the patience to do the same scene over and over to improve it (even if it means waiting some time to see what you should add or take away), acceptance of criticism and overall having a desire to tell a better or more distinct story/chapter than the last one you wrote. So mostly what Kenny said.
I certainly have talent and so do many other people here, but when it comes to skill….I think skill can make you a better editor and give yourself the chance to make a better overall voice, but I don't think skill alone makes one as good a writer as one with the talent and/or vision. Skill without either of those would probably just end up being outright mimicry of other people with nothing of your own to add. You can tell an okay story sure but not only will not look like anything new, it won't be yours. It's why I'm half involved in teaching myself new styles and half going in blindly. I'll read King and Martin to learn a few tricks but I'll never read 'A Hero with 1000 Faces' if you catch my drift.
Oh and Yukino is going to grow up to be a werepire and beat the shit out of all you other guys while adult Program will be a hit with the more mature ladies in his universe. >:) > :) >:) > :)
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REWRITE OF THE CLIMACTIC BATTLE BETWEEN ALYSA AND DIMITRI (NSFW)
! Alysa stared at Dimitri as he unsheathed his sword and held it to her throat. On the battlefield, she would never allow a man to get his sword three feet near her, but in here, it did not matter. The strong woman facade melted away as Alysa felt those primal needs well up to the surface. A need to be ravaged that boiled underneath every inch of her untouched skin.
! She felt his eyes as they scanned every inch of her frame. His eyes were filled with complete hatred. Anger. Lust. She could feel his intense emotions radiate off of this thick chest and bear down on her like a boulder. Her own feelings began to erupt from within as she gasped excitedly.
! In response to this, Dimitri sheathed his blade and clenched her arm tightly. The strength of his grip would surely bruise her, but she did not care. It was merely to be a "battle scar", a well-deserved one. He pulled her body close as his strong breath invaded her skin, the scent of his earlier supper awakening a deep hunger within her. A hunger to sup.
! She pounced him fiercely and shredded away at his clothes. She wanted nothing more than to take him. And for him to take her. A mutual murder. Yes, that would be ideal. When finally they were bare skinned, she sank her teeth into his neck and tried her damnedest to suckle on his blood. Of course, her teeth did not break his skin, but she still allowed herself to imagine the sweetness of his life force dribbling into her throat. Though of course, blood was not the only life force she planned to drink tonight.
! Before that, she moved her ravenous lips to Dimitri's, locking them in a passionate prison of sheer lust. She began to suck, stealing away his breath, another source of life. She nibbled at his tongue, careful to tighten her own around his, surely to rip it out when the time was right.
! While her lips and tongue continued to torture the enemy's respiratory system, her small hands ran along his chiseled stomach and down to his large pulsating manhood. She clenched it tightly and nudged it along into her vagina, trapping her opponent in an unwavering clenching maw. She had all of him where she wanted him as she squeezed her legs together as he continued to pulsate inside of her. She moved her hands to his back, holding on tightly, as with every push and every thrust her prey struggled to escape. She could not allow that. She would not allow that.
! She meant to strike the killing blow, but she felt her own lifeforce begin to pulsate as she reached an untimely climax. She felt his penis charge forth inside her as all of her senses blurred.
! But then Jorvan arrived, stark naked. He leapt on Dimitri's back and thrust himself into Dimitri's flank, ready to prove himself a soldier of Vitrasbaen.:I This stopped being fun a while ago…
You frighten me Fox. Frighten and amaze me at the same time.
It's porn that's so bad, even porn writers are disgusted with it apparently. I just know there are writers on the internet who could do the porn better. No puns intended. But could you imagine?! What if porn had character development and plot?! :0
It's porn that's so bad, even porn writers are disgusted with it apparently. I just know there are writers on the internet who could do the porn better. No puns intended. But could you imagine?! What if porn had character development and plot?! :0
Then it wouldn't be porn.~
What if porn had character development and plot?! :0
Nukka/Tikaani slowly uncovers the truth surrounding her sister's death through a series of increasingly expositionary sexual encounters.
This is revolutionary and revolting!
But could you imagine?! What if porn had character development and plot?! :0
I thought the movie Shame was kind of like that.
No wait it's still about Michael Fassbender's big schlong.
Wouldn't that be classified as erotica?
Please leave mine untouched by this phenomenon, I would hate to be accused of copying Berserk.
I thought the movie Shame was kind of like that.
No wait it's still about Michael Fassbender's big schlong.
pffft haahahaha. laughing at this way harder than I should be. funny you should mention it though, I was thinking about checking it out. ….THE MOVIE. Not Fassy's dick.
You've already shown us your cards, Mari, you can't ask us to pretend we never saw them.~
pffft haahahaha. laughing at this way harder than I should be. funny you should mention it though, I was thinking about checking it out. ….THE MOVIE. Not Fassy's dick.
Oh but checking out this movie and Fassy's massive manhood is one and the same. Literally within the first five minutes of the movie you get a perfect view of his genitals.
I bet it would've been quite an experience seeing it on the silver screen. "Oh okay there's Michael on a bed, he gets up, empty sheets okay, that's from the poster, I wonder what's coming up ne- HOLY OVARIES FASSY SCHLONG ALERT I THINK I JUST CHOKED ON MY POPCORN"
Wouldn't that be classified as erotica?
oh right. then maybe porn that doesn't use such absurd phrases like…
dammit Kitsune.
I think its safe to say that these recent writing developments have left our stories…
…fucked. 
Can we have an erotica theme for the Monthly
The stories must have an interesting climax.
Ladies and gentlemen, for once it has been proved that the writer section folks and/or the IRC people ARE capable of starting up and having internet orgies without the presence of a certain female dolphin person.
Let us be proud of ourselves, for we have accomplished something great today.
Oh but checking out this movie and Fassy's massive manhood is one and the same. Literally within the first five minutes of the movie you get a perfect view of his genitals.
I bet it would've been quite an experience seeing it on the silver screen. "Oh okay there's Michael on a bed, he gets up, empty sheets okay, that's from the poster, I wonder what's coming up ne- HOLY OVARIES FASSY SCHLONG ALERT I THINK I JUST CHOKED ON MY POPCORN"
okaaaay, that makes one movie I'll never be able to watch. Especially not when my family likes to come busting into my room every other minute for no reason. WHY MUST I BE TOLD THESE THINGS. If I do watch it, I don't have the excuse of pretending I didn't know.
Must be a hard turn coming here from those conversations with Sai-Sai, eh Mari?~
The stories must have an interesting climax.
ba-dum-HNNNGH
okaaaay, that makes one movie I'll never be able to watch. Especially not when my family likes to come busting into my room every other minute for no reason. WHY MUST I BE TOLD THESE THINGS. If I do watch it, I don't have the excuse of pretending I didn't know.
Yeah, I would definitely suggest watching it alone. One other thing is for sure, too: I don't think I'll ever be able to see another movie with Fassy in it without thinking of… schlong.
I now see a key difference between the art subforum and writing subforums. In the writing subforums the likelihood of an orgy is very high. totally opposite when me and Sai-chan are in the same place as each other.
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ba-dum-HNNNGH
Yeah, I would definitely suggest watching it alone. One other thing is for sure, too: I don't think I'll ever be able to see another movie with Fassy in it without thinking of… schlong.
LaCa, someone should give you an award.
duly noted. note to self: watch Shame last.
On the other hand, my username would make a great pen name for this transformation.
Mine wouldn't. Sadly.
Unless…
In Loving Memory of Toraish, Rex Avium: http://apforums.net/showthread.php?t=40786 | 3DS Friend Code: 3196-4274-7836
I go to lunch and the story thread becomes an orgy
keep up the good work?
I go to lunch and the story thread becomes an orgy
keep up the good work?
replace story thread with… "AP forums" and that's pretty much the forums in a nutshell. :ninja:
I will certainly be coming here to see this
So, who's gonna be writing the memberfic erotica?
apparently BFF is to blame for a lot of it
I wasn't even here!
I'm not here now either…...
Handsome man save me from the monsters. 
Avatar credits to rcerione
I would recommend hearing the full segment that I couldn't find. >>;
http://www.scpr.org/programs/patt-morrison/2012/08/14/27892/people-subconsciously-mimic-fictional-characters/
Basically the segment was about how fictional characters can influence our thought process or habits (usually temporarily) the less aware we are of our submersion into them, which can be a useful tool for explaining other POVs but can 'backfire' if they have traits you don't like (I'm thinking of Dumbledore being gay when I say 'backfire', since it was the example they used).
(….They weren't being homophobic or anything it was just a good example of being shocked about a character people related with).
Have this happened to any of you guys (books, movies or otherwise?) What do you think this says about the power of stories and what kind of effect would you like your works to have?
For me, obviously I've been influenced by Shion and Spades Slick (somewhat and mostly in a transiet way), but I've also picked up traits from Tyrion, Nostalgia Critic and even Basil from The Great Mouse Detective from time to time. Hell Kenny's Britney Brite got me to say 'yo' a few times at the end of a sentence. Considering how stories always have some undertones of how the author sees/views the world, himself, society, etc. it's only natural that the better written characters can seep in new ideas or habits that look attracting or interesting, whether it's something new or something you can relate with. Or both.
I do kind of hope (not holding my breath) that one day my characters can have this power for the petty purpose of bragging about it, but the one story I have with an actual agenda would be anything relating to the Concrete Nation, where I use the character's lives to speak out against corporatism and greed run amok (more specifically the evils of private prisons).
...What, I can promise it will be both an intelligent and entertaining message at the very least. :ninja:
