Don't forget that we will probably see the flame flame fruit again.
General Devil Fruit Discussion
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I think it was stated Magellan didn't become his element but he secreted a layer of it around him immediately (I might be pulling this out my @55 but I remember it from somewhere). Mr. 1 and Mr.3 become their element on the outside but they can't become intangible which is what differentiates "elemental/substance-like" paramecia from logias.
I know people have said Oda said this but I haven't been able to find it. Oda said that he wouldn't create a water logia, I think a Yonkou having it would be awesome and explain a lot.
Wait, who said this?
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Don't forget that we will probably see the flame flame fruit again.
I really hope not. It's just going to ruin everything for me. I know most people don't feel that way of course, but I'm just saying. Ace is the only person I want to see with that fruit and I hope we don't see anyone else with it!
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I really hope not. It's just going to ruin everything for me. I know most people don't feel that way of course, but I'm just saying. Ace is the only person I want to see with that fruit and I hope we don't see anyone else with it!
How about Sabo?
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Water logia is dumb DF users cant get in to the water that will be stupid
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but they could create infinite amounts of it as they wish too? Besides we haven't seen actual proof that someone like akainu could walk into a volcano and come out fine, to be honest the whole "because it contradicts" argument doesn't fly with me anymore, i could see it as possible although i doubt we'd see it anyway.
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How about Sabo?
Hmmm..interesting question you've got there But I guess my answer would still be no. We will see further down the story what happens, but I still hope Oda doesn't give it to anyone else.
As for a Water Logia, you never know.. Oda just might make it work
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I think it was stated Magellan didn't become his element but he secreted a layer of it around him immediately (I might be pulling this out my @55 but I remember it from somewhere). Mr. 1 and Mr.3 become their element on the outside but they can't become intangible which is what differentiates "elemental/substance-like" paramecia from logias.
I know people have said Oda said this but I haven't been able to find it. Oda said that he wouldn't create a water logia, I think a Yonkou having it would be awesome and explain a lot.
Yeah sorry I was a bit unclear about the "becoming". I meant it more like as you said coating themselves in it and/or mutating into them. I didn't mean they would become intangible.
I'm pretty sure that Alvida and Luffy have their powers running at all times.
Um that's more or less what I meant with "having their abilities running in the background". It was a reference to the iPhone apps that have the feature to "run in the background" (like the music player) while another app is open.
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@The:
I don't think Oda's done with Logia DF. I mean…we've had 2 new ones revealed since post-timeskip.
1. Swamp-Swamp
2. Gas-GasAnd Swamp...is definitely a weird "element". Prepare to see more.
Swamp is basically mud, so I don't find it that weird. I'm guessing there will a rock logia, air or steam logia, and something else.
Anytime I've posted a water logia theory someone almost always brings up Oda said it wouldn't happen in a SBS
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Mizu mizu no mi
The power to drown yourself, best devil fruit ever.
Seriously how about them Zoans?
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@Superbear:
Mizu mizu no mi
The power to drown yourself, best devil fruit ever.
Seriously how about them Zoans?
LOL. What if this was the hax DF of DF's? I have a theory that it's possibly Uranus the 3rd ancient weapon. I know that's the general rule but if one could "become the sea" then they'd be god-like power and a good villain. Remember having 2 DF at once was thought to be impossible but Blackbeard did it. I'm not saying it's likely but until someone sends me the SBS it's plausible, damn it!
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Swamp is basically mud, so I don't find it that weird. I'm guessing there will a rock logia, air or steam logia, and something else.
Anytime I've posted a water logia theory someone almost always brings up Oda said it wouldn't happen in a SBS
Yeah an Air fruit is possible and I'm almost certain Oda will introduce it. Don't know why but I just want to see a Rock logia!
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Yeah an Air fruit is possible and I'm almost certain Oda will introduce it. Don't know why but I just want to see a Rock logia!
I've always thought a water logia would be great and unlike other DF users, his only weakness would be salt. lol
I think Dragon might be the air logia you were talking about, and that Caribou and Croc might've been our Rock logias.
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@GolD.:
I've always thought a water logia would be great and unlike other DF users, his only weakness would be salt. lol
I think Dragon might be the air logia you were talking about, and that Caribou and Croc might've been our Rock logias.
=DI can imagine Sanji or someone else coming up against a Water Logia and just throwing salt over him lol I don't think Croc and Caribou would count towards the Rock Logia though and believe we will see a Rock Logia later on. I would love it if Kaidou is one don't know why
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Have we seen a oil logia? Because that would be pretty nice if the consumer would be a decent user.
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the only problem with air and oil is that they're flammable, so anything fire related pretty much murders them.
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the only problem with air and oil is that they're flammable, so anything fire related pretty much murders them.
Well it's the same problem as saying rubber is meltable. And that sand (at extreme temperatures) can be melted into glass. And that darkness can be disintegrated with enough light, and vice versa.
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Best DF is Enel's. Most powerful, and can attack from miles away if the character has mastered CoO perfectly like Enel.
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@GolD.:
I've always thought a water logia would be great and unlike other DF users, his only weakness would be salt. lol
I think Dragon might be the air logia you were talking about, and that Caribou and Croc might've been our Rock logias.
=DWhy does everyone think Dragon is an air logia? Was it because of how the anime showed Dragon holding onto smoker's jutte? I think Dragon is a air logia, although it's only because of the 'green winds' and how his hand was shown passing through the jutte. If that scene was a drawing error, it's possible Dragon is a storm para.
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Best DF is Enel's. Most powerful, and can attack from miles away if the character has mastered CoO perfectly like Enel.
If Enel will ever return he would just kill everybody with his new powers after the timeskip :sad:
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Best DF is Enel's. Most powerful, and can attack from miles away if the character has mastered CoO perfectly like Enel.
O kay.
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If Dragon has a DF, it has to be related with weather. Somehow or the other.
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I'd say Dragon is a weather paramecia as he was able to conjure lightning to save Luffy's life. It would be a very good power to have. Have both lightning to cause damage and wind to blow logias away.
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Weather Weather fruit?
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if his fruit was that powerful why not just run back to back to back to back level 5 hurricanes over marineford? i think an air logia would fit well because oda has found a way to nerf them a bit.
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Maybe because he doesn't want to seem like a dick?
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Yeah, I definitely think Dragon has eaten a wind logia. Wind is supposed to represent freedom, which is what Dragon stands for, so it would suit is character.
I think the lightning at Logue Town was not his doing, rather a fluke.
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Wind also often represents change, something else that Dragon stands for more than anyone else in the whole series. Then there's his green coat. A gust appearing and sending everyone flying conveniently right where he was standing. The wind blast in the Grey Terminal. Baltigo is always windy. Evidence just seems to point more to Air Logia than Weather Paramecia. Only thing really in favor of the latter would be the lightning bolt, but we've seen Nami create and direct lightning with her powers. An Air Logia could easily move clouds around and whatnot so I don't see that as something implausible.
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friction between air currents creates lightning, not that far fetched to believe if he's an airman.
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Dragon will be Nami's final battle! :o
/not serious
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Dragon will be Nami's final battle! :o
/not serious
Yeah right, are you stupid? Guy who takes EVERYTHING seriously
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Maybe because he doesn't want to seem like a dick?
Perhaps it was meant to show just how much luck Luffy has on his side or something
And Dragon as an Air Logia - yes please!
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Kinemon, 16 characters.
But seriously does anyone think Urouge has a devil fruit? I've heard theories of a Karma fruit of some sort, but honestly have super strength as a super power in a world where 90% of people have it naturally is awful. Hopefully there's more to it if he has one.
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I still think he was doing something like Life Return to adjust his sheer bulk.
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I think I read somewhere that on the last databook (Ocean Blue, or something like that) it was hinted that his fruit power was the ability to convert damage in strength (represented by his muscles growing at an absurd speed).
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I admit, don't if was in this thread but I said that there can't be any aquatic Zoans, Smiley disproves so,I was wrong.
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@Superbear:
I admit, don't if was in this thread but I said that there can't be any aquatic Zoans, Smiley disproves so,I was wrong.
It's not as drastic as an actual fish or dolphin Zoan, but yeah…
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It's not as drastic as an actual fish or dolphin Zoan, but yeah…
I guess this does open the doors for such animals as crocodiles.Oh yeah now to have an actual animal that is strictly an aquatic animal would be ridiculous, the person I was arguing against mentioned a penguin Zoan, I'm not sure if that's really plausible seeing as how penguins are at their best in the water however if the creature who eats the penguin fruit has a unique body like Smiley, Lasso, or Funkfreed then I could see it otherwise no.
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@Superbear:
Oh yeah now to have an actual animal that is strictly an aquatic animal would be ridiculous, the person I was arguing against mentioned a penguin Zoan, I'm not sure if that's really plausible seeing as how penguins are at their best in the water however if the creature who eats the penguin fruit has a unique body like Smiley, Lasso, or Funkfreed then I could see it otherwise no.
A Penguin body didn't stop Dogpen from kicking ass.
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A Penguin body didn't stop Dogpen from kicking ass.
That was Sanji and Kage Kage physics at work, like how Oars could use gomu gomu techniques besides not beng made of rubber.
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@Superbear:
That was Sanji and Kage Kage physics at work, like how Oars could use gomu gomu techniques besides not beng made of rubber.
Oars could use Gomu Gomu techniques because Moriah was actively controlling his body to do so.
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Oars could use Gomu Gomu techniques because Moriah was actively controlling his body to do so.
Yeah,Kage Kage physics.
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@Superbear:
That was Sanji and Kage Kage physics at work, like how Oars could use gomu gomu techniques besides not beng made of rubber.
The point is that even a Penguin body can kick ass.
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The point is that even a Penguin body can kick ass.
But it could only kick ass because Sanji's shadow was within it, similar to how Zoro's Zombie could use 36 pound cannon.
On a side note Kinemon is not a Zoan, because like I said each time a person is revealed to have a fruit, if it is a Zoan they'll transform, there's no disproving that.
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@Superbear:
But it could only kick ass because Sanji's shadow was within it, similar to how Zoro's Zombie could use 36 pound cannon.
The fact that the Penguin body could kick is the only relevant one here. A guy could eat a Penguin Zoan DF and train in its animal form through kicking, or slapping, or even pecking.
When I said "kick ass", I was being partially literal.
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The fact that the Penguin body could kick is the only relevant one here. A guy could eat a Penguin Zoan DF and train in its animal form through kicking, or slapping, or even pecking.
When I said "kick ass", I was being partially literal.
I guess, also its not guaranteed that this have to transform fully seeing as how partially transformation is becoming more common, and the penguin is most liking going to be 3tines the size of a normal penguin,so I agree. Also belly sliding as means of movement would be cool.
Now about that Kinemon.
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An aquatic DF doesn't equal swimming ability it probably just means you'll be immobilized but able to breath
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An aquatic DF doesn't equal swimming ability it probably just means you'll be immobilized but able to breath
Which would make it still pretty useless. You would be stuck in the ocean's bottom waiting death to come through either starvation or predators.
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Which would make it still pretty useless. You would be stuck in the ocean's bottom waiting death to come through either starvation or predators.
It it was solely aquatic yes but the salamander is both. Still if you fall into the water and no one is around then I think I'd take being able to breath over drowning, but that's just me