Guess what? A new constitution in Syria was voted for and approved by 90% of the population.
Congratulation, Assad we'll stay in his position for another 14 years. lol
Or until he's son is old enough.
Guess what? A new constitution in Syria was voted for and approved by 90% of the population.
Congratulation, Assad we'll stay in his position for another 14 years. lol
Or until he's son is old enough.
90% of the population as in "90% of the people living in Syria" or as in "90% of the people Assad hires to run around and terrorize people"?
We have an old saying that goes like this: "Silence is a sign of approval".
And Assad thought: "Hey, if you're not voting NO then you're probably thinking YES, right? Right?"
@Monkey:
China and Russia hate eachother as much as any hate for the west. They share a border for one, do you think they aren't more paranoid of the other?
Considering how Stalin was a racist, and stole land and Mongolia from China, China has good reason for hating Russia. On the other hand, China hates Euro-American imperialism more. And China's hate for Japan seems to be unending. Unless you count all the youths that love Anime and Manga.
Russia… I can't really say. I haven't studied Russia all that much.
Stalin didn't steal land from China, those borders were set from a previous era before the Soviet's even.
Mongolia being stolen from the Chinese is a wildly inaccurate description of what happened there as well. For starters claiming Chinese ownership of Mongolia when it was nothing more than a colonial buffer area is misleading. And the fact that it was essentially forced into borders by the Qing, who were kinda sorta NOT Chinese to begin with…
And with the collapse of the Qing the Mongolians made for independence and to avoid Chinese submission they looked to the Russian Empire who through negotiation had the Republic of China give Mongolia autonomy...and the Soviets (before Stalin was in power even) chased out both the Republican soldiers and the White Russians who were fucking with the Mongols, and gave it a sort of independence like they later did to Eastern Europe.
If we cut it the clearest, both China and Russia played tug of war with the Mongolians. But luckily for them they got out scot free and dictatorless by the 90's, unlike other ethnic nations I could think of in both those other countries.
China can hate the west all it wants for they're comparatively menial faults, but the West isn't the one competing with China for influence in Siberia and Central Asia directly on their borders.
Though I guess the West having the terrible imperialist gall to help Burma unthaw it's awful dictatorship when Burma ran away from China squeezing it for cash and investment projects might scare China. That's a border "issue".
@Monkey:
Stalin didn't steal land from China, those borders were set from a previous era before the Soviet's even.
Mongolia being stolen from the Chinese is a wildly inaccurate description of what happened there as well. For starters claiming Chinese ownership of Mongolia when it was nothing more than a colonial buffer area is misleading. And the fact that it was essentially forced into borders by the Qing, who were kinda sorta NOT Chinese to begin with…
And with the collapse of the Qing the Mongolians made for independence and to avoid Chinese submission they looked to the Russian Empire who through negotiation had the Republic of China give Mongolia autonomy...and the Soviets (before Stalin was in power even) chased out both the Republican soldiers and the White Russians who were fucking with the Mongols, and gave it a sort of independence like they later did to Eastern Europe.If we cut it the clearest, both China and Russia played tug of war with the Mongolians. But luckily for them they got out scot free and dictatorless by the 90's, unlike other ethnic nations I could think of in both those other countries.
China can hate the west all it wants for they're comparatively menial faults, but the West isn't the one competing with China for influence in Siberia and Central Asia directly on their borders.
Though I guess the West having the terrible imperialist gall to help Burma unthaw it's awful dictatorship when Burma ran away from China squeezing it for cash and investment projects might scare China. That's a border "issue".
I am not sure what the truth is. Honestly, I believe all Chinese historians, regardless of political affiliation, believe Mongolia has been part of China, and has been so ever since Genghis Khan took reign. You'll have to give me a source article written in Chinese and by a Chinese author to change my mind on this.
Nonetheless, this is a tangential argument to the thread's topic.
Mongolia wasn't part of China between the Yuan and Qing, and saying Mongolia was part of China during Yuan is dumb because really it was China that was part of Mongolia in that instance. The Mongol Empire also included the area of modern Iran, does that make Iran part of China?
And by Chinese historians do you mean historians from Taiwan or Hong Kong? Because Mainland historians work through the prism of the state apparitus and essentially can't be fully impartial. History is the strongest component of state propaganda in any location, you better believe mainland history is rife with bias. This is the country that hid away the Tocharian mummies for awhile because they were afraid of their potential of proving the Uyghur claims to Xinkiang (not that they did anyway).
You're being dumb about this, this is extremely recent history not theoretical achaeology. This ain't the Indus Valley civilization.
The considering of Mongolia as part of China is the same shit seen round the world, it's simple irredentism.
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And you can't really think the people of Mongolia, whose opinions are the only thing that really matters on this (not China's, not Russias, not mine or yours) are wanting to become a state of China do you?
@Monkey:
Mongolia wasn't part of China between the Yuan and Qing, and saying Mongolia was part of China during Yuan is dumb because really it was China that was part of Mongolia in that instance. The Mongol Empire also included the area of modern Iran, does that make Iran part of China?
And by Chinese historians do you mean historians from Taiwan or Hong Kong? Because Mainland historians work through the prism of the state apparitus and essentially can't be fully impartial. History is the strongest component of state propaganda in any location, you better believe mainland history is rife with bias. This is the country that hid away the Tocharian mummies for awhile because they were afraid of their potential of proving the Uyghur claims to Xinkiang (not that they did anyway).
You're being dumb about this, this is extremely recent history not theoretical achaeology. This ain't the Indus Valley civilization.
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And you can't really think the people of Mongolia, whose opinions are the only thing that really matters on this (not China's, not Russias, not mine or yours) are wanting to become a state of China do you?
The Mongolian government is kind of like puppets to the Russians, from the last I heard. The people of Inner Mongolia and Mongolia want to unite, but the governments governing each region oppose each other.
And by Chinese historians do you mean historians from Taiwan or Hong Kong? Because Mainland historians work through the prism of the state apparitus and essentially can't be fully impartial.
I heard this from Taiwanese historians, including an uncle from my extended family in Taiwan who told me that Mongolia was part of China before China's collapse. Oh, and he's a Nationalist (Kuomingtang).
The Mongolian government were puppets to Russia when they were communist.
Inner Mongolia has more Han Chinese in it by now than Mongols so fat chance for that happening. People have to compromise sometimes on this sort of thing, Northern Ireland isn't joining Ireland, and same with Inner Mongolia and the independent Mongolia.
Your uncle was right, he's saying the same thing I said, that Mongolia was part of Qing territory before their collapse. That's nowhere even remotely the same thing as "Mongolia is part of China proper stolen away by foriegners".
This is all especially ironic considering during the early part of the 20th century how quick Chinese were to reject the Qing as foreigners (which they were) and now their conquests are "part of China's soul!!".
@Monkey:
The Mongolian government were puppets to Russia when they were communist.
Inner Mongolia has more Han Chinese in it by now than Mongols so fat chance for that happening. People have to compromise sometimes on this sort of thing, Northern Ireland isn't joining Ireland, and same with Inner Mongolia and the independent Mongolia.Your uncle was right, he's saying the same thing I said, that Mongolia was part of Qing territory before their collapse. That's nowhere even remotely the same thing as "Mongolia is part of China proper stolen away by foriegners".
This is all especially ironic considering during the early part of the 20th century how quick Chinese were to reject the Qing as foreigners (which they were) and now their conquests are "part of China's soul!!".
These are the same people who say lines like "The fact that there is only one China has never changed.".
@No:
These are the same people who say lines like "The fact that there is only one China has never changed.".
And not to go all Godwin, but this sort of thinking is why Germany annexed your country during a certain conflict some years ago.
"Screw the Czechs! Bohemia and Moravia are GERMAN territory!!!"
@Monkey:
And not to go all Godwin, but this sort of thinking is why Germany annexed your country during a certain conflict some years ago.
"Screw the Czechs! Bohemia and Moravia are GERMAN territory!!!"
What I loved most was when Slovak fascist politicians mentioned the "eternal german-slovak friendship" after the breakaway in 39. Most germans proper probably didn't even know they existed till about 1918.
@Monkey:
The Mongolian government were puppets to Russia when they were communist.
Inner Mongolia has more Han Chinese in it by now than Mongols so fat chance for that happening. People have to compromise sometimes on this sort of thing, Northern Ireland isn't joining Ireland, and same with Inner Mongolia and the independent Mongolia.Your uncle was right, he's saying the same thing I said, that Mongolia was part of Qing territory before their collapse. That's nowhere even remotely the same thing as "Mongolia is part of China proper stolen away by foriegners".
This is all especially ironic considering during the early part of the 20th century how quick Chinese were to reject the Qing as foreigners (which they were) and now their conquests are "part of China's soul!!".
So is it really bad to have nationalistic and ethnic pride? It's because of this that people have distorted perceptions on history, and run campaigns that are totally bonkers.
I don't think you are trying to demean the Chinese culture and heritage, and you are probably aware that I have strong, almost religious, faith in my heritage, but I ask you to be more sensitive about your statements. Sometimes, I feel hurt by such criticism. It's very hard for one to accept an idea that assaults one's faith. I have to consider sensitivity when I try to correct religious views about how the Earth came to be when talking with conservative Christians, although some don't try arguing back.
In addition, to the whole cultural/political conflict, I think racism has a huge influence on conflicts around the world. Although I like to be faithful to the majesty of Chinese cultures, I detest my Dad's racism and ethnocentrism. He seriously believes in genetic differences contributing to various qualities people of each race "embody". And I can't argue against him. The last time I did, even though he admitted that I was right, he retaliated violently, destroying the peace of my home for weeks (breaking household items and appliances, like the TV). As I have told you, my Dad has been feeding this attitude of Chinese superiority to me without a choice of rejecting it. How do I choose sides in an environment where I don't have a real choice?
Perhaps, wars are just a manifestation of bigotry and hubris by entire nations. I'm concerned by it, but probably deluded by it as well.
Anyway, I'll have to decline that claim that the Qing are somehow foreigners. It seems completely ludicrous to me.
Anyway, I'll have to decline that claim that the Qing are somehow foreigners. It seems completely ludicrous to me.
And yet many amongst the Han Chinese had no problems calling them such; the fact that seven or eight centuries had passed since the Jurchen ancestors of the Qing had moved down from Siberia to Manchuria didn't mean much to people that hardnosed about foreigners.
And yet many amongst the Han Chinese had no problems calling them such; the fact that seven or eight centuries had passed since the Jurchen ancestors of the Qing had moved down from Siberia to Manchuria didn't mean much to people that hardnosed about foreigners.
Again, I'll have to decline that claim that the Qing are somehow foreigners. It seems completely ludicrous to me.
Edit: Okay, perhaps the meaning I get from the word "foreigners" is ridiculous to me. The Qing are essentially accepted as an ethnicity in China, and has interbred with the Han, just like every other ethnicity in China. Nonetheless, they are Chinese. There is no ethnocentrism prevalent in China that is centered on the Han. Any attitude of Han "superiority" is easily defaced and debunked by the existence of prominent Chinese figures who are not Han. Nonetheless, they are Chinese.
So is it really bad to have nationalistic and ethnic pride?
It is when it inspires territorial disputes. Is war worth pride?
Contrast this with territorial disputes regarding political concern for ethnic/religious diaspora (though this can be warped too).
It's because of this that people have distorted perceptions on history, and run campaigns that are totally bonkers.
I'm pretty sure nationalism and ethnic pride have a far worse history in terms of political abuse than anti-nationalism lol.
I don't think you are trying to demean the Chinese culture and heritage,
Nigga you have no idea how exhausted and swollen my head is right now in preparing for an in depth exam on contrasting Taoism, Confucianism, Legalism, Buddhism, and fucking goddamned extinct Mohism right now.
Well Buddhism isn't Chinese but whatever, you get the point. I'm too in deep to even start belittling it by this point even if I wanted to.
and you are probably aware that I have strong, almost religious, faith in my heritage,
To the point of blindness? What good is that.
Don't you think I have pride in my heritage and current locale?
but I ask you to be more sensitive about your statements.
Wait, what did I even say lol. To make you mad here.
Sometimes, I feel hurt by such criticism. It's very hard for one to accept an idea that assaults one's faith.
Saying Mongolia belongs to the Mongols offends you??
In addition, to the whole cultural/political conflict, I think racism has a huge influence on conflicts around the world. Although I like to be faithful to the majesty of Chinese cultures,
You know Chinese culture isn't all that different from other world cultures, certainly in no way as to make it majestic.
Hell filial piety and ancestor worship was also popular with the Romans. They would have loved Confucius if he just changed his ideas of Tian to ideas of the Greek gods that the Romans stole.
And yeah I guess the Romans are part of my heritage too in a distant way. So let's look here. Should I do as you would and deny the facts that the Romans stole their religious figures wholesale from Greece? Let's ignore that this would piss off my significant other due to her own heritage lol.
But why would you, if you were say…Italian. Deny this?
I detest my Dad's racism and ethnocentrism. He seriously believes in genetic differences contributing to various qualities people of each race "embody". And I can't argue against him. The last time I did, even though he admitted that I was right, he retaliated violently, destroying the peace of my home for weeks (breaking household items and appliances, like the TV). As I have told you, my Dad has been feeding this attitude of Chinese superiority to me without a choice of rejecting it. How do I choose sides in an environment where I don't have a real choice?
Don't argue with him than. And eventually you move out.
Also Chinese genetics? Most of the territory of modern China specifically including the Taiwan and Fujian area used to be the lands of unsettled "barbarian" tribes who were sinicized by the southward conquering of the original Han Chinese from up on the Yellow river area. So the ancesters of most Taiwanese Chinese are probably tribal peoples which I know don't mesh with your dad's ideas. But hey, when you go back far enough so is everybodys.
Anyway, I'll have to decline that claim that the Qing are somehow foreigners. It seems completely ludicrous to me.
So you don't know anything about the Qing than lol.
They were Manchus. They invaded the Ming Dynasty and took it over and forced some of their customs on the Han like those goofy pigtails and clothing styles as well. The Kuomintang ran on some platforms of bigotry against them early on and the first Chinese Republic flag made one of it's five ethnic minority colors the Manchu's. They were an other. Frankly no different from the Mongols, an invading horse people from the North who took the throne, and I'm sure you don't consider Mongols to be Han.
Saying they're Chinese is kind of like saying the Scottish are English.
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Again, I'll have to decline that claim that the Qing are somehow foreigners. It seems completely ludicrous to me.
Edit: Okay, perhaps the meaning I get from the word "foreigners" is ridiculous to me. The Qing are essentially accepted as an ethnicity in China, and has interbred with the Han, just like every other ethnicity in China. Nonetheless, they are Chinese. There is no ethnocentrism prevalent in China that is centered on the Han. Any attitude of Han "superiority" is easily defaced and debunked by the existence of prominent Chinese figures who are not Han. Nonetheless, they are Chinese.
Russians, Tajiks, Koreans, Turkmen, Uzbeks, and Kazakhs are also accepted ethnicities, does that make them Chinese? That would certainly be news for the Russians!
Again, I'll have to decline that claim that the Qing are somehow foreigners. It seems completely ludicrous to me.
And it is ludicrous, but that's racism for you.
Any attitude of Han "superiority" is easily defaced and debunked by the existence of prominent Chinese figures who are not Han.
And African-Americans were elected to Congress during the '40s, '50s, and '60s. Does that suggest that racism against African-Americans didn't exist during that time period?
@Monkey:
It is when it inspires territorial disputes. Is war worth pride?
Contrast this with territorial disputes regarding political concern for ethnic/religious diaspora (though this can be warped too).I'm pretty sure nationalism and ethnic pride have a far worse history in terms of political abuse than anti-nationalism lol.
Nigga you have no idea how exhausted and swollen my head is right now in preparing for an in depth exam on contrasting Taoism, Confucianism, Legalism, Buddhism, and fucking goddamned extinct Mohism right now.
Well Buddhism isn't Chinese but whatever, you get the point. I'm too in deep to even start belittling it by this point even if I wanted to.To the point of blindness? What good is that.
Don't you think I have pride in my heritage and current locale?Wait, what did I even say lol. To make you mad here.
Saying Mongolia belongs to the Mongols offends you??
You know Chinese culture isn't all that different from other world cultures, certainly in no way as to make it majestic.
Hell filial piety and ancestor worship was also popular with the Romans. They would have loved Confucius if he just changed his ideas of Tian to ideas of the Greek gods that the Romans stole.And yeah I guess the Romans are part of my heritage too in a distant way. So let's look here. Should I do as you would and deny the facts that the Romans stole their religious figures wholesale from Greece? Let's ignore that this would piss off my significant other due to her own heritage lol.
But why would you, if you were say…Italian. Deny this?Don't argue with him than. And eventually you move out.
Also Chinese genetics? Most of the territory of modern China specifically including the Taiwan and Fujian area used to be the lands of unsettled "barbarian" tribes who were sinicized by the southward conquering of the original Han Chinese from up on the Yellow river area. So the ancesters of most Taiwanese Chinese are probably tribal peoples which I know don't mesh with your dad's ideas. But hey, when you go back far enough so is everybodys.
So you don't know anything about the Qing than lol.
They were Manchus. They invaded the Ming Dynasty and took it over and forced some of their customs on the Han like those goofy pigtails and clothing styles as well. The Kuomintang ran on some platforms of bigotry against them early on and the first Chinese Republic flag made one of it's five ethnic minority colors the Manchu's. They were an other. Frankly no different from the Mongols, an invading horse people from the North who took the throne, and I'm sure you don't consider Mongols to be Han.Saying they're Chinese is kind of like saying the Scottish are English.
Russians, Tajiks, Koreans, Turkmen, Uzbeks, and Kazakhs are also accepted ethnicities, does that make them Chinese? That would certainly be news for the Russians!
Dude… well, first I'll have to chill out before I tell you to.
I don't want to argue history and politics about China with you. It's not my expertise, and my faith in China is not exactly logical. It's made up of countless lectures of Chinese nationalistic bias ingrained into my personal ideology with conditioning to be submissive to nationalistic propaganda. Arguing doesn't make it better, and only exacerbates my ignorance.
Quite frankly, history of politics and culture has always been my hardest subject, and I simply do not have the skills to really understand it. Logically, I should listen to someone with more expertise, like you, but you know how dogmatic faith is.
Anyway, I haven't really seen distinction in Chinese people other than where they have lived. Han people who have lived in Tibet for multiple generations have more in common culturally with Tibetans than Han in Guangxi, for example. The Scottish distinguishing themselves from the English is really a different story, because they have opted for distinct separation. I do not really know the reason why.
And it is ludicrous, but that's racism for you.
And African-Americans were elected to Congress during the '40s, '50s, and '60s. Does that suggest that racism against African-Americans didn't exist during that time period?
Racism against African Americans has taken far stronger roots than racism in China ever has, as far as I know. Blacks have never been seen as equals by White elitists. There is an almost tangible barrier that prevents racial discrimination from going away. I mean, we still have White racist congressmen despite Barack Obama being in office.
Ethnic cultural variety is still celebrated in China despite what American media depicts. Even the Tibetan and Uighur "uprisings", which were investigated out of sensationalism, have seemingly disappeared from any broadcasting. Have they been oppressed to the point that they're forced to conform to Han demands? I don't think it makes sense, considering that they live in autonomous societies. Also, why haven't the Kazakhs protested Han migration? Or the Koreans? Or the Mongolians?
Btw, I think Iran is wary that China will try to usurp parts of Iran into China if their relations deteriorate. It definitely could happen, as border disputes can degenerate into bullying and justification using shaky, tangential reasoning.
@Monkey:
Saying Mongolia belongs to the Mongols offends you??
Yeah, more then anything I'd like to hear an answer to this.
I don't want to argue history and politics about China with you. It's not my expertise, and my faith in China is not exactly logical. It's made up of countless lectures of Chinese nationalistic bias ingrained into my personal ideology with conditioning to be submissive to nationalistic propaganda. Arguing doesn't make it better, and only exacerbates my ignorance.
Than stop arguing with me.
Anyway, I haven't really seen distinction in Chinese people other than where they have lived.
The south has a ton of varieties of Chinese while the North mostly speaks Mandarin.
Hokka, Gan, Cantonese, Min, Wu, and Xiang among others. That's one difference right there.
And that's partly my point also, that there isn't much difference anymore. The southerners were assimilated AGES ago, over 1000 years have passed. I mean the bulk of Chinese culture even moved to the south for awhile when nomads were fucking around up north.
Han people who have lived in Tibet for multiple generations have more in common culturally with Tibetans than Han in Guangxi, for example. The Scottish distinguishing themselves from the English is really a different story, because they have opted for distinct separation. I do not really know the reason why.
Probably because the Scottish are a completely different ethnic group from the English??
The Scottish are one of the remaining Celtic cultures of Europe, which if you notice only exist on the far western fringe of the continent after waves of Romans and Germanic peoples pushed them there (English is a Germanic culture that came from invaders from north Germany).
They may even become independent again.
Racism against African Americans has taken far stronger roots than racism in China ever has, as far as I know. Blacks have never been seen as equals by White elitists. There is an almost tangible barrier that prevents racial discrimination from going away. I mean, we still have White racist congressmen despite Barack Obama being in office.
You don't think racism in China is a problem lol? We elected a black man, would the Chinese elect a Uyghur? Would Taiwan elect an aboriginal Taiwanese?
Ethnic cultural variety is still celebrated in China despite what American media depicts.
Don't make random assumptions about the west lol. It's a well known fact about the 56 nationalities thing over here.
Even the Tibetan and Uighur "uprisings", which were investigated out of sensationalism, have seemingly disappeared from any broadcasting.
Not uprisings, unrest.
The problem with the PROC is their insistence on harmony even when there is not harmony.
Rather like the Republican parties stance on race relations actually. Just smile and pretend everythings fine since the 60's ended.
I can tell you the Rodney King Riots got more coverage than the Urumqi and Tibet events, and they were much less serious.
And they weren't investigated out of sensationalism.
I know already you wouldn't say this about any other country, that's why this is so dumb.
Have they been oppressed to the point that they're forced to conform to Han demands?
They're economically downtrodden and culturally held down. That's generally how these things manifest. No ones saying there's Jim Crow laws.
I don't think it makes sense, considering that they live in autonomous societies.
They DON'T live in autonomous societies.
Also, why haven't the Kazakhs protested Han migration? Or the Koreans? Or the Mongolians?
For starters all three of those peoples have nation states they can go to.
The Kazakhs and Koreans are also very very tiny groups in China unlike the Uyghurs and Tibetans.
Btw, I think Iran is wary that China will try to usurp parts of Iran into China if their relations deteriorate. It definitely could happen, as border disputes can degenerate into bullying and justification using shaky, tangential reasoning.
Maybe except that China doesn't have a border with Iran. lol
@Monkey:
Than stop arguing with me.
I was going to counter-argue, but I would have missed the point of my own argument.
I guess I'll get my education and tools for researching history from one of my future electives.
Western tech firms are making cash bolstering Arab dictators' surveillance systems as they ramp up crackdowns
After thinking about it for a few days, and listening to my Dad more closely, Zephos was completely right. I simply had a lens over my view on politics and history. Not coincidentally, I get my worst grades in history class.
Syria's deputy oil minister 'defects'
Abdo Hussameldin, a deputy in Syria's oil ministry, has announced his defection in a video posted by activists on YouTube.
If confirmed, Hussameldin would be the highest-ranking civilian official to abandon President Bashar al-Assad's government since the uprising against his rule erupted a year ago.
What does it mean for a minister to defect? Does that mean he just stops working for the government, or is there some way he's directly helping the uprising?
Sometimes people wait for someone else to do it first and then they follow on their foot steps.
Who knows, maybe this guy's defection will encourage others to leave Assad's side, and sooner or later Assad will be left alone. Wishful, I know, but who knows, lol?
Massacre in Homs with atleast 45 women and children dead.
To put this clear, the women and children were literally found with their throats slit like cattle. I know we have crossed the point of no return with the torture hospitals and I am well aware this is a fullblown war now. But even with that in mind this stands out as an act so unbelievable, I can't believe human beings are responsible for it. And this comes a couple of hours after "negotiations" with Kofi Annan.
There have been lots of reports of prisoner abuse, and racism too (thanks to Gaddafi using lots of Tuareg mercs). But so far as the zoo and feeding flags you're going to need an actual source for that. Because RussiaToday sure isn't one.
lol…..kinda. If it weren't set against the backdrop it is.
http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2012/03/14/reading_assads_emails
Assad WOULD be a Chris Brown fan, wouldn't he
Syrian state TV accuses Lionel Messi and FC Barcelona of helping to arm rebels
Here’s something you don’t hear every day. According to ara.cat, Addounia, a Syrian state controlled TV channel, has accused FC Barcelona of helping to arm rebels in the war ridden country.
Even the most fervent of Real Madrid supporters will find this one a conspiracy theory too far. If it sounds ridiculous as a concept, it’s just plain hilarious in execution. The channel claims that if you reverse the image of Lionel Messi‘s run for his famous goal against Real Madrid in last year’s Champions League, then track his movement, it draws a route for rebels to get arms into the country.
We’re not making this up. Seriously.
There are plenty of things going on at the hands of Mr al-Assad that are no laughing matter, but I dare say this is one accusation that FC Barcelona’s legal department won’t need to pursue
Assad must be trying to top Gaddafi's Coca Cola speech. That is utterly batshit insane.
Syrian state TV accuses Lionel Messi and FC Barcelona of helping to arm rebels
This is making Leigh Teabing's begining speach in the Da Vinci Code seem like nuclear physics.
Syrian state TV accuses Lionel Messi and FC Barcelona of helping to arm rebels
And the Denver Broncos funded the Libyan resistance.
Hey does anyone have any good links that explain:
-the causes of the Libyan civil war and
-potential solutions that can help fix the political mess it's in
It would be very much appreciated. :)
1. Where were you on this forum the last year, under a rock?
2. If only anyone had those lol.
Hey does anyone have any good links that explain:
-the causes of the Libyan civil war and
I visited the thread occasionally, but never heavily involved with it. I was hoping you guys, who were, would be able to point to be to better sources than the aljazeera articles I'm gonna use (school project)
I visited the thread occasionally, but never heavily involved with it. I was hoping you guys, who were, would be able to point to be to better sources than the aljazeera articles I'm gonna use (school project)
Ask Bar Kum, he was literally there.
Alright .
http://www.scpr.org/news/2012/03/23/31764/homeland-security-announces-special-refugee-immigr/
Here's some good news at least. Cool.
Damn good thing right there.
Supposedly, Syria has accepted a plan to end the violence.
http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/27/world/meast/syria-unrest/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
It somehow looks like a bad planned Aprilfools joke
First the putschists revolted against a voted government and suspended the constitution.
Now they chicken out, the constitution is valid again and free elections are held out in prospect, just because the touaregs advance.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/apr/01/mali-coup-constitution-rebels?newsfeed=true
How bad are the tuareg insurgents ? I know they mention establishing sharia law, but just how hardline are they ?
@No:
How bad are the tuareg insurgents ? I know they mention establishing sharia law, but just how hardline are they ?
They are linked with the West African branch of Al Qaeda, and they are no fighting alongside them. Worst case scenario seemed to be the partition of the country with one side influenced by Al Qaeda.
@No:
How bad are the tuareg insurgents ? I know they mention establishing sharia law, but just how hardline are they ?
There are resources which report, that the tuareg receive protection money from the Aqim and that they recruit their fighters among the young tuaregs.
Besides that the tuareg destroyed hotels and restaurants, which served alcohol. The Caritas office and the catholic congregation in GOA were attacked by the tuaregs.
Aung Suu Kyi's party has won most of the seats they were contesting in Burma.
Also, the sanctions on the country will be softened. News like these make me feel good.
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/asia-pacific/2012/04/20124419585627384.html