The site's already been taken down and the owners indicted. This is some 1984 shit.
Currently, Eastasia is to blame for the Great Republic of Oceania's problems.
The site's already been taken down and the owners indicted. This is some 1984 shit.
Currently, Eastasia is to blame for the Great Republic of Oceania's problems.
"Some people steal food before they pay out! The whole restaurant chain should be shut down!!"
Yeah, fuck this. I'm considering helping Anonymous on this one.
Can never be too much les mis
FBI website is down.
Rupert, I meant Rupert.
Currently, Eastasia is to blame for the Great Republic of Oceania's problems.
The Two Minutes Hate against Sam Ferguson, leader of internet piracy, will begin shortly.
They can't censor the net especially this !
I don't want to go back to TV and watch reality shows and horrible music videos.
All moral and economical issues aside, Sanji's got a point. With the torrent system you can get literarly anything, if you can't find a torrent for it you just put out a request on a forum, wait two hours and voila some person was nice enough to scrounge it up for you. To take an example thanks to the torrent system i've been able to finda whole bunch lesser known classic Swedish movies from the 1940's that i haven't been able to find in any movie store on or offline, you can't even get them from the swedish film institutes archives. That right there is fucking amazing, the range you can choose from is beyond compare in the history of entertainment, you want korean soap operas? we've got it, you want to watch midget wrestling from albania? You better belive we got that.
and after this freedom, this complete freedom to chose and find anything that's been made on the planet you expect people to go back to a system where you can barely get anything other than the latest Ben Stiller movie?
[http://www.whitehouse.org/cgi-sys/suspendedpage.cgi
T](http://www.whitehouse.org/cgi-sys/suspendedpage.cgi)he power of the Internet… is just amazing.
I'm pretty sure the White House is whitehouse.gov.
Though, seriously, I understand why people are mad, but DDoSing federal agencies really doesn't help one's case, Anonymous.
I'm willing to bet there are a lot of One Piece readers who won't subscribe to Shonen Jump Alpha because they have easy access to scanlations.
Oh, look, another one who thinks that most of arlong park is in north america.
Well, you know, the legitimate protest that worked wonderfully was ignored.
I'm not saying it's right to do this but what happened was bullshit.
George Orwell should have named his book 2012 instead of 1984. When 1984 passed, and the Soviet Union collapsed, people calmed down and thought it was over…
i doubt that fbi would take some action this large unless they had some real evidence. and megaupload did contain tons of pirated stuff, moreover they paid those uploaders too.
It also contained a lot of legitimate stuff such as self-made media and back ups. I liked the analogy posted earler: Ford trucks are often used as getaway vehicles for criminals. Do you shut down the entire Ford company for that?
Right when I was about to watch the Scooby Doo Mystery Incorporated movie special… this happens.
Oh well. I won't unleash unholy anger until Mediafire or Sourceforge is taken down. Really. Those uploaders rule and it would be shame to see them get taken down too.
Down.
Well, you know, the legitimate protest that worked wonderfully was ignored.
I'm not saying it's right to do this but what happened was bullshit.
Fully agreed.
When proper protests have been made, and made in vain, then if it's still against the will of such a huge number of people, you do what you have to. You cannot talk things around in every situation, sometimes you need to stand up and rattle some cages.
i doubt that fbi would take some action this large unless they had some real evidence. and megaupload did contain tons of pirated stuff, moreover they paid those uploaders too.
Also, of all file sharing sites, megaupload was the one most likely to take down pirated content.
Also, yesterday I downloaded no less than 3 Open Source SDKs from megaupload, I doubt that they already made new mirrors from those, specialy one that hasn't been updated in a while.
It's not possible to create a catch all for piracy without killing freedom of speech.
Not trying to defend the closure, but the thing is megaupload didn't do much to stop illegal uploads on its server. E.g if one illegal file was reported, it didn't delete all other copies of same file. It didn't close the accounts of ppl uploading illegal content despite multiple warnings. And above all even after knowing that the points user had earned were from illegal uploads. It didn't detect them. And in end paid uploader.
Also, of all file sharing sites, megaupload was the one most likely to take down pirated content.
Also, yesterday I downloaded no less than 3 Open Source SDKs from megaupload, I doubt that they already made new mirrors from those, specialy one that hasn't been updated in a while.
It's not possible to create a catch all for piracy without killing freedom of speech.
This is honestly the biggest issue here. I can see taking down Megaupload, because it is a hotbed of piracy (all over Twitter, people complaining that they can't watch TV now). I completely understand that side of it. It's illegal. I read there was roughly $175 million of illegal profit.
But as you said, it's hard to just put the hammer down on piracy alone in cases like this. Innocent people got caught in the crossfire. It could have been done a lot better than just a blanket shut down. I just don't think DDoS as a retaliation is the right way to go about it.
Not trying to defend the closure, but the thing is megaupload didn't do much to stop illegal uploads on its server. E.g if one illegal file was reported, it didn't delete all other copies of same file. It didn't close the accounts of ppl uploading illegal content despite multiple warnings. And above all even after knowing that the points user had earned were from illegal uploads. It didn't detect them. And in end paid uploader.
How are they supposed to search ever single file uploaded to the site to make sure it's not in violation of copyright laws? That's impossible. They did, to my knowledge, delete copyright violations if reported or if they were found. It's impossible to do that for everything considering how much traffic went through the site.
Oh, yeah, I meant "Freedom of speech on the Internet"
After all it's very hard to pirate something through tv.
How are they supposed to search ever single file uploaded to the site to make sure it's not in violation of copyright laws? That's impossible. They did, to my knowledge, delete copyright violations if reported or if they were found. It's impossible to do that for everything considering how much traffic went through the site.
Nops its not. Hotfile does it. Rapidshare does it. Filesonic does it even inside zip and rar files.
You're saying there are no files in violation of copyright laws on Hotfile, Rapidshare, or Filesonic? I find that VERY hard to believe.
You're saying there are no files in violation of copyright laws on Hotfile, Rapidshare, or Filesonic? I find that VERY hard to believe.
What i am saying is that if you report one copyrighted file on one of those. All other copies with same md5 will be deleted. Don't believe me? try yourself :P
Hotfile will even delete your account (after 20 or so violations).
I am shocked and appaled
Yeah, the masterminds who don't change the MD5 of a file when they re-upload it, the criminal minds of piracy.
What i am saying is that if you report one copyrighted file on one of those. All other copies with same md5 will be deleted. Don't believe me? try yourself :P
Hotfile will even delete your account (after 20 or so violations).
So a movie file is uploaded, and a string of code it made to identify it. Later, another person uploads that same movie, of a different file size, with a different name, is uploaded and it is assigned the exact same line of code?
I don't know how this works but it sounds like bullshit.
@Thousand:
It seems to me that since SOPA's a bust, corporations are starting to take more drastic measures.
Good to know that I am not the only one who thinks that's possibly the case.
Honestly, it'll be interesting to see where this goes in the next couple days/weeks/months, if anything else is taken down, and what comes out during due process.
As long as Silicon Valley lobbyists are against SOPA and the like, those will never pass, so that scenario should be avoided.
Plus, on the off chance it does, you know Google has that take-over-the-world plan on the backburner, so we'll be good. And I, for one, welcome Google-world. It could end up being fun.
So a movie file is uploaded, and a string of code it made to identify it. Later, another person uploads that same movie, of a different file size, with a different name, is uploaded and it is assigned the exact same line of code?
I don't know how this works but it sounds like bullshit.
no :s
people usually upload same copy of movie (with same filesize) in their account, which is why it usually has same string to identify it (no matter what name). Actually what happens is that instead of downloading and reuploading… they just reupload from one server to other. So in end it usually has same size.
I am shocked, shocked I say, to find gambling going on in this establishment.
You're a bigger loan shark than Gekko, Rup.
Anyway i'll be interested in seeing where this goes. I don't think megaupload will be last. Predicting fileserv/filesonic to be next.
Oh, look, another one who thinks that most of arlong park is in north america.
I didn't mention Arlong Park.
I think he's saying that only people in North America can subscribe to Shonen Jump Alpha.
Though the circumstances aren't quite the same, this reminds me of the onemanga brouhaha a little while back. I dunno, I doubt that this is going to be the apocalypse of file uploading sites. Cut off the head…
I think he's saying that only people in North America can subscribe to Shonen Jump Alpha.
No, I got that. I know there are people who can't subscribe or watch Funi's sub of One Piece. Admittedly, I probably should of qualified my statement, but I don't want to be called out for something I didn't say in the first place.
I still believe there are many North American readers who are fully able to subscribe, but won't because they have a free alternative. And I'm not referring exclusively to AP forum readers who can subscribe. If anything, I feel members of this forum would be more likely to support a legal alternative, if they can.
This might be a very large exaggeration, but it's still a REALLY good comic.
http://imgur.com/a/M5a2O
How does Americans think they have the right to go and arrest people and shut sites down even if they are not based in USA? I hate this. I had LEGAL, PERSONAL stuff on Megaupload, and I'm really upset.
@Crossword:
Though the circumstances aren't quite the same, this reminds me of the onemanga brouhaha a little while back. I dunno, I doubt that this is going to be the apocalypse of file uploading sites. Cut off the head…
Well, that didn't really stopped online manga readers, so I don't think this will stop file uploading sites.
Though the circumstances aren't quite the same, this reminds me of the onemanga brouhaha a little while back. I dunno, I doubt that this is going to be the apocalypse of file uploading sites. Cut off the head…
Onemanga! That's it. Ive been trying to remember the name of that one site everyone went to that had everything before it was pulled… and we started going to three other sites instead.
Thing is, Onemanga was entirely copyright violating material. Megaupload was not.
The title of this thread made laugh at first SOPA means soup in portuguese so the setence made me laugh(also PIPA is associated with certain instrument and wine).
I apologize, i wonder where they are going strike first if this is aproved.
This might be a very large exaggeration, but it's still a REALLY good comic.
http://imgur.com/a/M5a2O
I enjoyed reading it, nice find.
http://gawker.com/5877707/the-evil-new-tactic-behind-anonymous-massive-revenge-attack
Anonymous is spreading a link that tricks internet users into DDoS'ing websites. Watch what you click people.
Thing is, Onemanga was entirely copyright violating material. Megaupload was not.
Sure, some of it wasn't illegal, but Megaupload had a TON of copyright violating material, and it was making a lot of money off doing so. is anyone going to even try to deny that? The sheer quantity of bootlegging on the site, and how big it is (4% of all internet traffic? cripes) means of course it was an obvious target. THAT much traffic? Even if only 1% of that traffic was illegal uploads, it'd be pretty significant… and I'm pretty sure much, much, MUCH higher percentage than that was movies, soundtracks, games, etc.
What would be the cutoff of fair? If it was 49% illegal (and millions of downloads daily) would it be okay to keep it running? does it then become righteous to take it down when its 51% illegal? If it was as low as 1%, and completely out of their power to deal with, is that fair to shut down? What if it was as high as 92%? Where do you draw the line and set the standard?
Smaller sites will be ignored and a dozen websites will pop up to replace it by morning and it'll spread out, just like it did with scans.
http://gawker.com/5877707/the-evil-new-tactic-behind-anonymous-massive-revenge-attack
Anonymous is spreading a link that tricks internet users into DDoS'ing websites. Watch what you click people.
forgive but what does "DDoS'ing" mean?