Surprised nobody has mentioned Killua ripping testicles yet.
Also notice how that added some dialogue of Gon being confused at how to play rock, paper, scissors? Oops.
Surprised nobody has mentioned Killua ripping testicles yet.
Also notice how that added some dialogue of Gon being confused at how to play rock, paper, scissors? Oops.
Testicles don't beat like that silly. :ninja:
Surprised nobody has mentioned Killua ripping testicles yet.
Also notice how that added some dialogue of Gon being confused at how to play rock, paper, scissors? Oops.
Gon wasn't confused, he just didn't think the game was that complicated. Seeing as how he instantly figured out how to win once Kurapica explained the situation, I don't think he was confused at the concept at all.
Just watched episode 11.
Hmmm York New is gonna suffer.
Sigh, I see there's still no reason to watch the new anime.
You're really missing something then.
hmm, haven't watched the episode yet, but that pic makes it look like Killua ripped Jones ball sack off.
Looking at the preview for next week's episode, it seems there is going to be a little bit of filler…
I really don't like how they make it look as if Killua grows his nails on command in the new anime. It's too reminiscent of Meg Griffins super power.
I hope the people who watch the new series realize that it's airing at 10am and therefor edits will be made. The way joness was handled was good IMO
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I really don't like how they make it look as if Killua grows his nails on command in the new anime. It's too reminiscent of Meg Griffins super power.
I didn't think so
Just finished the York New arc in the manga. Wow, was I off/on during this arc. Sometimes it was a drag going through the chapters, then today I was able to blast through chapters 97 through 120… This was much, much longer than the exam. Although it dragged at points, overall I was impressed because Togashi continues to present this world that just keeps dragging me back for more (and now after... 50/60? chapters of hearing about it I can finally begin the Greed Island arc).
I can imagine this arc being the hardest to hold an audience during an anime adaption.
Looking at the preview for next week's episode, it seems there is going to be a little bit of filler…
Aww yeah pack your sleeping bag, tooth brush and favorite Bill Murray movie because it's a Hunter X Sleep Over!
Just finished the York New arc in the manga. Wow, was I off/on during this arc. Sometimes it was a drag going through the chapters, then today I was able to blast through chapters 97 through 120… This was much, much longer than the exam. Although it dragged at points, overall I was impressed because Togashi continues to present this world that just keeps dragging me back for more (and now after... 50/60? chapters of hearing about it I can finally begin the Greed Island arc).
Yeah, I felt that York Shin dragged a bit, especially in the 2nd half. There was a long stretch of time where I was just asking "Urgh! Will something just happen already?!"
Anyway, I finished Greed Island (awesome arc. Definitely the best by far) and I'm about 20 chapters into the Chimera Ant arc. Goddamn did this series just get depressingly dark (that is, even moreso than usual). I mean, shit Togashi. This is a shonen manga isn't it?
I actually thought they did the heart scene well. It may have been wrapped up, but it seemed to have more focus set on the heart beating for a bit. I feel Jones reacted a bit more in a way. To me Killua handing it back to him was more awesome than just crushing it. I dunno I enjoyed it lol. When you think about it, that's still plenty vivid for a 10am time slot.
I really don't like how they make it look as if Killua grows his nails on command in the new anime. It's too reminiscent of Meg Griffins super power.
Except that's exactly what he's doing? :wassat:
Anyway, this anime's filler choices are weird. Like Franky actually goading Joness, that was definitely out of character for someone who bluffs all the time.
I'd rather had the cop scene in it. I mean, they could've just said what he did to the cop or had the cop's hand covering the wound, and it still would've sufficed.
I kinda helped show just what kind of person Joness was, him not killing Franky contradicted that.
Yeah, I felt that York Shin dragged a bit, especially in the 2nd half. There was a long stretch of time where I was just asking "Urgh! Will something just happen already?!"
Anyway, I finished Greed Island (awesome arc. Definitely the best by far) and I'm about 20 chapters into the Chimera Ant arc. Goddamn did this series just get depressingly dark (that is, even moreso than usual). I mean, shit Togashi. This is a shonen manga isn't it?
I liked York Shin more then GI. I felt more emotions reading YS and Kuripica having to make such a hard decision and he still isn't sure it was the right thing to do. His demons were in full view at the end of that arc and it was amazing. Hioska manipulating things in his favor to get a duel is enjoyable too.
I found Greed Island a bit confusing from all these cards. And the fact that Bomber and his thugs were left alive pissed me off. Yes, Killua is not a commoner himself, but the argument that they are both murderers and have done a lot of stuff on the main land doesn't hold up. On the island Killua was not killing here and there, while Bomber did what he did. The actions on island itself should matter with deciding whom to get canned on the island.
Greed Island is probably one of the best arcs I've ever read in any shonen.
And it was a training arc of all things.
Except that's exactly what he's doing? :wassat:
TBH I didn't even realize that was the intention in the manga. I guess I just missed that detail, but I always saw him with long nails in other panels. Obviously rereading it now, knowing what I'm looking for, helps me understand it better.
I've never understood why people were praising GI so much. For me it was the worst arc of HxH by far. It wasnt a bad arc per se, but it surely couldnt reach to the high standards of the series.
There was just so many things wrong: From the very unimpressive and flat villains, the large training parts, the not very satisfying conclusion/end fights,… They never really played the game: it just boiled down to beating the "bad guys" and there was no RPG feel. (Obtaining the cards, beating monsters, solving riddles; this all was just some background plot) The whole part with the Ryodan was nice, because we all love these guys, but nevertheless was mostly just fan service.
And finally the whole card system made no sense: It was never explained, how the game functioned. Who enabled the card effects? (Like sending the players to a certain point and so on) There were some guys, who kind of controlled it, so maybe it was their nen ability, but no way in hell did they have enough abilities for all the different card effects. (Like healing every disease or making someone younger etc))
I found Greed Island a bit confusing from all these cards.
Worst part of GI was 4 straight pages listing all 40 spell cards.
And the fact that Bomber and his thugs were left alive pissed me off. Yes, Killua is not a commoner himself, but the argument that they are both murderers and have done a lot of stuff on the main land doesn't hold up. On the island Killua was not killing here and there, while Bomber did what he did. The actions on island itself should matter with deciding whom to get canned on the island.
Yeah, that was pretty bullshit. Especially considering this is a series that's so harsh on secondary characters and innocent bystanders.
Here's the thing about Killua though: when we first met him he seemed like a nice enough kid, but then it totally shocked us when he straight up killed two guys for no real reason. Then he did the same with Jones and that one guy from the Final Exam, but then after the short Zoldick Family he's just kinda….not a heartless murderer anymore. I mean, there was no real transition or any reason for him to change. That really irks me.
Here's the thing about Killua though: when we first met him he seemed like a nice enough kid, but then it totally shocked us when he straight up killed two guys for no real reason. Then he did the same with Jones and that one guy from the Final Exam, but then after the short Zoldick Family he's just kinda….not a heartless murderer anymore. I mean, there was no real transition or any reason for him to change. That really irks me.
I always thought the reason he kinda mellowed a bit and started to be more "compassionate", was because he became friends with Gon. Granted he's only known him for a year or so in the series' timeline, but maybe having a real friend for the first had such a profound impact on him that it changed his personality big time. That's just my two cents though.
I've never understood why people were praising GI so much. For me it was the worst arc of HxH by far. It wasnt a bad arc per se, but it surely couldnt reach to the high standards of the series.
There was just so many things wrong: From the very unimpressive and flat villains, the large training parts, the not very satisfying conclusion/end fights,… They never really played the game: it just boiled down to beating the "bad guys" and there was no RPG feel. (Obtaining the cards, beating monsters, solving riddles; this all was just some background plot) The whole part with the Ryodan was nice, because we all love these guys, but nevertheless was mostly just fan service.
And finally the whole card system made no sense: It was never explained, how the game functioned. Who enabled the card effects? (Like sending the players to a certain point and so on) There were some guys, who kind of controlled it, so maybe it was their nen ability, but no way in hell did they have enough abilities for all the different card effects. (Like healing every disease or making someone younger etc))
Greed Island as RPGjay says is a training arc and in it we got to learn the advancements of nen.
Not to mention the overall story being a millionaire who want nothing more than to gain his lover back.
Worst part of GI was 4 straight pages listing all 40 spell cards.
Yeah, that was pretty bullshit. Especially considering this is a series that's so harsh on secondary characters and innocent bystanders.
Here's the thing about Killua though: when we first met him he seemed like a nice enough kid, but then it totally shocked us when he straight up killed two guys for no real reason. Then he did the same with Jones and that one guy from the Final Exam, but then after the short Zoldick Family he's just kinda….not a heartless murderer anymore. I mean, there was no real transition or any reason for him to change. That really irks me.
Well there was that bit of filler where he went back with Gon to his house and you see that he still solves things with killing and he gets scolded, seems to realize maybe that's not always right? But didn't he always say he didn't want to be an assassin, so maybe he just worked out some stuff…Or whatevs lol.
I found Greed Island a bit confusing from all these cards. And the fact that Bomber and his thugs were left alive pissed me off. Yes, Killua is not a commoner himself, but the argument that they are both murderers and have done a lot of stuff on the main land doesn't hold up. On the island Killua was not killing here and there, while Bomber did what he did. The actions on island itself should matter with deciding whom to get canned on the island.
You're missing one of the largest themes in the series, then. Genthru was a crazy person, but it's not up to Gon and his friends to play judge. They don't need to kill him for what he's done, especially considering that just about everyone he killed ended up screwing over the protagonists too. People do bad things, but it's unlike Gon or Killua to judge anyone for murderous actions unless directly affected.
@Mr.:
You're missing one of the largest themes in the series, then. Genthru was a crazy person, but it's not up to Gon and his friends to play judge. They don't need to kill him for what he's done, especially considering that just about everyone he killed ended up screwing over the protagonists too. People do bad things, but it's unlike Gon or Killua to judge anyone for murderous actions unless directly affected.
They didn't need to heal him though. It's like Batman said, "I won't kill you, but I don't have to save you." And, I was a little unclear on the ending, but didn't they pretty much get off scott free (I mean, aside from the massive beatdown)?
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Not to mention the overall story being a millionaire who want nothing more than to gain his lover back.
"Overall story?" lol. You mean that minor plot device that was shoe-horned in towards the end of the arc?
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Well there was that bit of filler where he went back with Gon to his house and you see that he still solves things with killing and he gets scolded, seems to realize maybe that's not always right? But didn't he always say he didn't want to be an assassin, so maybe he just worked out some stuff…Or whatevs lol.
You lost me at "filler."
They didn't need to heal him though. It's like Batman said, "I won't kill you, but I don't have to save you." And, I was a little unclear on the ending, but didn't they pretty much get off scott free (I mean, aside from the massive beatdown)?
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"Overall story?" lol. You mean that minor plot device that was shoe-horned in towards the end of the arc?
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You lost me at "filler."
Wasn't it filler? I couldn't remember them trying to save the baby bear cat thing in the manga.
Wasn't it filler? I couldn't remember them trying to save the baby bear cat thing in the manga.
Yeah, that was my point. I don't have any interest if it's not in the manga (particularly since I haven't even seen the anime).
Wasn't it filler? I couldn't remember them trying to save the baby bear cat thing in the manga.
He's saying that it was filler, so it's not relevant to Killua's character development.
I think part of it was seeing Hisoka do what he did. The Zoldyck family is a family of contract killers, but they have a conscience… at least some of them do. Remember when Zeno got physcially ill after he (though a misunderstanding) thought that he killed innocent people when he bombed the Royal Palace that the Ants had taken over? Killua knows the difference between right and wrong. I guess you could say he's like Light Yagami (before he went crazy) when it comes to justice. Killing criminals and people in self-defense is one thing. Killing people for bloodlust or the thrill or because it sexually excites you (in Hisoka's case) is just psychotic.
Worst part of GI was 4 straight pages listing all 40 spell cards.
Yeah, that was pretty bullshit. Especially considering this is a series that's so harsh on secondary characters and innocent bystanders.
Here's the thing about Killua though: when we first met him he seemed like a nice enough kid, but then it totally shocked us when he straight up killed two guys for no real reason. Then he did the same with Jones and that one guy from the Final Exam, but then after the short Zoldick Family he's just kinda….not a heartless murderer anymore. I mean, there was no real transition or any reason for him to change. That really irks me.
I am pretty sure tests because of Gon influence on Killuua. Illumi even says Killua can't change his ways and Gon is just a play thing.
I am pretty sure tests because of Gon influence on Killuua. Illumi even says Killua can't change his ways and Gon is just a play thing.
His father, Silva, believes Killua can change, and that's good enough for me. Illumi is a murderous psychopath; I doubt he's the best judge of character.
I found Greed Island a bit confusing from all these cards. And the fact that Bomber and his thugs were left alive pissed me off. Yes, Killua is not a commoner himself, but the argument that they are both murderers and have done a lot of stuff on the main land doesn't hold up. On the island Killua was not killing here and there, while Bomber did what he did. The actions on island itself should matter with deciding whom to get canned on the island.
Now I really need to re-read the series but didn't Togashi show that Gon was against taking the life of anything until the Chimera arc where killing was necessary to survive.
Now I really need to re-read the series but didn't Togashi show that Gon was against taking the life of anything until the Chimera arc where killing was necessary to survive.
I also need to re-read, but I swear I remember a fight in the Tournament Tower Arc where Gon was told to finish his opponent (it was a deathmatch), and he refused, saying it was "stupid to kill someone who already lost" or something like that.
@Fire Fist:
I also need to re-read, but I swear I remember a fight in the Tournament Tower Arc where Gon was told to finish his opponent (it was a deathmatch), and he refused, saying it was "stupid to kill someone who already lost" or something like that.
That's what is so interesting about the series and why I've been glued to the new anime at the moment. Current Gon and the Gon in the anime feel like two completely different characters.
I'm pretty sure Gon doesn't care about killing as long as it's not someone he cares about.
I honestly think the thing that mainly triggers his rage are things he doesn't understand or conflict with his logic. For example, Gon hates people who understand the value of a life and will weep over their friends but not their victims.
Nobunaga and Pitou did this and Gon raged with a thousand suns.
It's not really the fact that Gon and co are refusing to fatality bombers, as much as fact that they simply stayed alive. If they "fell from the staircase on a knife seven times" after parting with cards, that would be alright for me. As a reader I find it displeasing that he survived.
I'm pretty sure Gon doesn't care about killing as long as it's not someone he cares about.
I honestly think the thing that mainly triggers his rage are things he doesn't understand or conflict with his logic. For example, Gon hates people who understand the value of a life and will weep over their friends but not their victims.
Nobunaga and Pitou did this and Gon raged with a thousand suns.
Those two chapters where Gon cannot understand why Pitou is healing Kamugi are probably my favorite of the whole series.
It's not really the fact that Gon and co are refusing to fatality bombers, as much as fact that they simply stayed alive. If they "fell from the staircase on a knife seven times" after parting with cards, that would be alright for me. As a reader I find it displeasing that he survived.
Well who knows, the bomber may make an appearance later in the series. Though knowing Togashi if he does come back he'll simply be used to demonstrate the strength of the next antagonist.
Gon development is one of the most interesting things about HXH. I want to see his logics when he wakes up. He going to look like a freaking hypocrite to Kuripica. This is why I love this manga. They throw the kind hearted Gon who thought his believes were right and his teachings from Mito are to live by. Gon is slowly realizing how hard the real world is. I like characters with flaws and not the the Mary sues who always chooses the right decisions.
Gon development is one of the most interesting things about HXH. I want to see his logics when he wakes up. He going to look like a freaking hypocrite to Kuripica. This is why I love this manga. They throw the kind hearted Gon who thought his believes were right and his teachings from Mito are to live by. Gon is slowly realizing how hard the real world is. I like characters with flaws and not the the Mary sues who always chooses the right decisions.
Can you blame him? Pitou lied to him, then stringed him along briefly before finally revealing that he had already fed Kite's brain to the Queen. He then stitched his body back together and kept it around as a training dummy, basically. Kite was the only father figure Gon ever had; Ging can't even take five seconds to visit him in the hospital (a fact that Leorio made very clear). Gon doesn't even know that Kite's still alive, albeit reincarnated as an Ant hybrid. We saw how well Luffy handled his older brother dying in his arms, and, to add insult to injury, Gon witnessed being killed, and was lied to about it, so he thought everything was okay. Imagine being told that a fatal injury you just witnessed wasn't fatal, and only finding out later that person had died. Now, that's cold.
Worst part of GI was 4 straight pages listing all 40 spell cards.
First time I ever just skipped pages in the middle of a manga.
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Overall, I really liked the Greed Island Arc. Yes, the cards could be confusing but I don't think we were ever meant to fully understand the game. The author just wanted to establish that the characters understood it or were learning.
I really liked the training part too. Just remembering how they started out on the island before their training, they were legitimate noobs. Even Killuala who was trained to fight since brith was novice in the understandings of fighting when it came to properly utilizing nen. I'm glad they did a good amount of training and we saw how their abilities developed throughout the process.
And I especially liked the volleyball game with Hisoka added in the mix...though I'm not much of a fan.
I don't think we were ever meant to fully understand the game. The author just wanted to establish that the characters understood it or were learning.
Is there a point to introduce a concept to the readers that they aren't meant to understand?
Worst part of GI was 4 straight pages listing all 40 spell cards.
Actually I rather enjoyed this. I think it was necessary. It laid out every possible spell card and what each of them does so the rest of Greed Island didn't have the Yu-Gi-Oh "Well my spell card that no one has ever mentioned before counters cards X, Y, and Z" thing.
It's part of why I loved Greed Island so much. I have to give Togashi serious props because he really thought every card out. Which ones can and can't affect eachother (which was strongly emphasized in Genthuru's group in their tough exam), loopholes in the rules, how many of each card can exist at a time, it was just beautiful how intricate Greed Island was. And even from those ideas he takes them into a surprisingly logical mindgame. I mean, right from the get-go Killua and Gon get asked to join Genthuru's group who is monopolizing as many cards as possible to force every other player into a sort of stalemate where no one can win until Genthuru's group (or rather the Bombers as it would eventually turn out) would inevitably win.
And that's not even getting into all of the imposed cards that could be potential prizes for whomever won Greed Island. Fate Cutting scissors, VIP pass, Good luck bankbook, it really seems as if Togashi considered every possibility of what dream items that Hunters would risk their lives for to obtain.
Seriously, I love Greed Island.
Yeah I agree with Jay, I loved GI for all that.And the spells were obviously nen-powered. That just says about everything about the enormous nen-power of the game-masters.It also showed the possibilities of nen. Every spell in the game could be used by an individual nen user if he trained that.Remember how Kurapika healed his broken arm in a second - reminds me of angels breath.
Yeah Greed Island was amazing. Togashi is great at creating battles that turn into chess matches with an elaborate set of rules and as you guys have said GI is an entire arc written in this way. It's fantastic.
Okay I just have to ask, I am watching the current remake and a bit of the original and unfortunately havent't come around to reading the Manga , but anyway I have to ask, isn't Gon the main character? All I have been seeing people talk about is Kurapica, Hisoka and Killua, it just has me wondering whether later on in the story Gon becomes irrelevant to it.
Okay I just have to ask, I am watching the current remake and a bit of the original and unfortunately havent't come around to reading the Manga , but anyway I have to ask, isn't Gon the main character? All I have been seeing people talk about is Kurapica, Hisoka and Killua, it just has me wondering whether later on in the story Gon becomes irrelevant to it.
the anime omitted a little flashback ,that took place in gon's island, which gives us more information about gon's father. Gon's purpose in the story is to find his father. Gon isn't irrelevant to the story.
Okay I just have to ask, I am watching the current remake and a bit of the original and unfortunately havent't come around to reading the Manga , but anyway I have to ask, isn't Gon the main character? All I have been seeing people talk about is Kurapica, Hisoka and Killua, it just has me wondering whether later on in the story Gon becomes irrelevant to it.
Well, if you aren't reading the manga, is normal you don't understand why we don't talk about Gon.
Explain it would be spoiler.
But Gon IS the main character.
Unfortunately Gon is the main character.
Not really. Well, a little.
Feels like there are 3 main characters. Gon, Kurapika and Killua. Each of those characters had been seen without the others at some point for what feels like chapters at a time. Hisoka I wouldn't say was a main character exactly, he's a bit too off kilter for a shonen lead I think…Leorio doesn't really get too many stand alone things that really prove his worth/skill. I like that there's apparently more than one character to focus on. Gon is a happy go lucky stubborn kid for the most part, but I don't think HxH would have been as good if it soley focused on him.
Actually I rather enjoyed this. I think it was necessary. It laid out every possible spell card and what each of them does so the rest of Greed Island didn't have the Yu-Gi-Oh "Well my spell card that no one has ever mentioned before counters cards X, Y, and Z" thing.
There are other ways he could have gone about it. Having to read and memorize a listing of 40 cards seems more like homework to me. I mean, I get that this is a game and all, but that doesn't mean the manga has to read like one. I mean, even after reading the pages once (which is what one reading a manga should be able to do) I still couldn't tell you exactly what each card did.
But yes, I still do have to give Togashi props for thinking all these cards out ahead of time, making them work in a fair and logical way and following their rules and limit throughout the arc.
Feels like there are 3 main characters. Gon, Kurapika and Killua. Each of those characters had been seen without the others at some point for what feels like chapters at a time. Hisoka I wouldn't say was a main character exactly, he's a bit too off kilter for a shonen lead I think…Leorio doesn't really get too many stand alone things that really prove his worth/skill. I like that there's apparently more than one character to focus on. Gon is a happy go lucky stubborn kid for the most part, but I don't think HxH would have been as good if it soley focused on him.
Are u kidding me?? He punched Gin FREAKING Freeks!!!!!! (tho thats the only thing he does in….what.. 5 years?)