yeah but would his be the bomb bomb fruit or the booger booger fruit
General Devil Fruit Discussion
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Mr. 5 had the Bomb-Bomb fruit.
Fireworks are similar but not ruled out.
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Mr. 5 had the Bomb-Bomb fruit.
Fireworks are similar but not ruled out.
Hurray! Isn't it a cool concept. I can see the user grabbing an opponent and blasting off in the sky or shooting out fireworks from his or her fingers from afar.
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Sounds like Jubilee from the X-Men.
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@S.C.:
Sounds like Jubilee from the X-Men.
Yes exactly!!!!!
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Shoot… huh, so either Mr. 2's Fruit is just unsuited for combat (which is a shame, because his mix-and-match powers could be put to very interesting use) or he's just way too focused on only fighting with his body.
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Actually, the Chopper thing makes me think of something that's a bit weird. Don't most Zoan users return to their base form when they are knocked out? Chopper returns to his hybrid body... Which, granted, is the form he's in the most. Could it be that Zoan users have an internal image of their "true" forms, which determines what they turn into when they lose consciousness? Could that be why Mr. 2 was able to copy Chopper's hybrid form? Because for him, it's his "true" body?
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Shoot… huh, so either Mr. 2's Fruit is just unsuited for combat (which is a shame, because his mix-and-match powers could be put to very interesting use) or he's just way too focused on only fighting with his body.
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Actually, the Chopper thing makes me think of something that's a bit weird. Don't most Zoan users return to their base form when they are knocked out? Chopper returns to his hybrid body... Which, granted, is the form he's in the most. Could it be that Zoan users have an internal image of their "true" forms, which determines what they turn into when they lose consciousness? Could that be why Mr. 2 was able to copy Chopper's hybrid form? Because for him, it's his "true" body?
Or maybe…secretly Chopper is a racoon after all! XD
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Gasp! Chopper is a raccoon that ate the reindeer fruit, and then the yeti fruit!
Nice try Blackbeard, but Chopper was blowing our minds for YEARS already!
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Shoot… huh, so either Mr. 2's Fruit is just unsuited for combat (which is a shame, because his mix-and-match powers could be put to very interesting use) or he's just way too focused on only fighting with his body.
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Actually, the Chopper thing makes me think of something that's a bit weird. Don't most Zoan users return to their base form when they are knocked out? Chopper returns to his hybrid body... Which, granted, is the form he's in the most. Could it be that Zoan users have an internal image of their "true" forms, which determines what they turn into when they lose consciousness? Could that be why Mr. 2 was able to copy Chopper's hybrid form? Because for him, it's his "true" body?
Again I'll cite DBZ. Remember when Ginyu swapped bodies with Goku? He did it to grab hold of a body stronger than his own, only he couldn't use Goku's strength since he wasn't aware of Goku's Kiao-ken. Without Kiao-ken, Ginyu couldn't use Goku's body to any kind of potential.
It's just like that. For Mr. 2's fruit to be a combat-oriented fruit, Bon Clay would have to be an expert on every fighting technique of every fighting style. Ever. Frankly, meeting a character like that would be dangerous even without a Devil's fruit.As for the Chopper in the water, it's an interesting theory. Actually, since I don't know, is there any case of another Zoan user falling into water? Chopper could have reverted to hybrid form when Monster Point fell in simply because he was Hybrid before going Monster. I'd assume otherwise it's the sea robbing the user of strength and control, notnecessarilyrobbing them of the power itself. Cite: Luffy getting stretched underwater at Arlong Park.
As for the Bon Clay copying Hybrid Chopper, I'd say it can happen because half-human is still human enough to work for the Clone-Clone fruit. It's just a guess, but really there's no reason to ask such detailed questions. IMHO.
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Again I'll cite DBZ. Remember when Ginyu swapped bodies with Goku? He did it to grab hold of a body stronger than his own, only he couldn't use Goku's strength since he wasn't aware of Goku's Kiao-ken. Without Kiao-ken, Ginyu couldn't use Goku's body to any kind of potential.
It's just like that. For Mr. 2's fruit to be a combat-oriented fruit, Bon Clay would have to be an expert on every fighting technique of every fighting style. Ever. Frankly, meeting a character like that would be dangerous even without a Devil's fruit.I kind of agree with this, but feel the need to add stuff like center of gravity and such might also be messed up. Plus, getting the body of someone much stronger than himself would probably be difficult unless they let him or he found some way to trick them
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he has to be a talking bear, because it would be weird for a human to be asking about female bears while going to the island of women.
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he has to be a talking bear, because it would be weird for a human to be asking about female bears while going to the island of women.
eh, everyone has their own fetishes.
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A question about Caribou is his power similiar to Blackbeards where he absorbs a body then stores for later use. Cept with blackbeard it ends of destroyed. Cause it seems like thats the case specially with talk of him absorbing the ark.
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A question about Caribou is his power similiar to Blackbeards where he absorbs a body then stores for later use. Cept with blackbeard it ends of destroyed. Cause it seems like thats the case specially with talk of him absorbing the ark.
Since he wants to sell the mermaids, I doubt his devil fruit kills or harms the victims.
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Its a swamp. Only reason the mermaids won't be that harmed is because they can breath underwater. Humans wouldn't survive being locked inside of Caribou.
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Presumably.*
It makes sense since we know mermaids can breathe underwater and we've seen him drown Fake Sanji.And as for him absorbing Noah, my guess as to his infinite body is that it wouldn't destroy the ship or anything it absorbed, but my personal theory is that it can only absorb something he can extend his swamp-mass to encompass. Then he can store it for however long. Things probably decompose at a normal rate as they would in a swamp. Hm. Food for thought on you, Caribou.
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But the Noah is outside Fishman Island in the water! How in the world will Caribou get up there!
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The likelihood of it actually happening is incomprehensible.
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A point about Haki vs Logia.
The Logia user can always dodge Haki attacks - as I believe Akainu just molded his body so that the sword wouldn't cut him (WB commander, can't remember his name). Technically, Buggy has one of the most useful DF abilities out there, he just doesn't know how to use it properly (like Kizaru, although he's a little better at it).
Also it's obvious that Oda chooses which fruits are Logia and Paramecia, based on his own criteria, but the resulting powers are obvious. There are always key abilitiy differences between Logia users and Jozu, Luffy, Daz and Mr. 3.
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@Lazy:
The Logia user can always dodge Haki attacks - as I believe Akainu just molded his body so that the sword wouldn't cut him (WB commander, can't remember his name). Technically, Buggy has one of the most useful DF abilities out there, he just doesn't know how to use it properly (like Kizaru, although he's a little better at it).
Yeah, I remember Aokiji doing the same thing by opening a crack on his torso to let Whitebeard's Bisento pass through him.
And Buggy's DF ability is actually not that impressive, especially compared to the likes of Magellan, Kuma, Jozu and Whitebeard.
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Kuma's limited by the fact that it's only his hands. Magellan has one of the top 3 paramecia abilities out there, as does WB.
I'll reserved judgement for Jozu. I want to see what Haki can do to diamond, plus it's paramecia so he has a serious weakness in that he can only turn his body in to diamond, which means he can't move. There are a lot of counter DFs to Jozu, including Law's.
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Yeah, I remember Aokiji doing the same thing by opening a crack on his torso to let Whitebeard's Bisento pass through him.
And Buggy's DF ability is actually not that impressive, especially compared to the likes of Magellan, Kuma, Jozu and Whitebeard.
you have to think about the what ifs with some of these df's. and you have to think about it like that because the users are not yet skilled in using them. So, if buggy were to say be as skilled at using his df like say Croc. He could be basically be just liek a logia and dodge every attack thrown at him.
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Magellan's I would argue is just he's got great mastery of his fruit, it's not like in the top 3, he's just one of the most talented characters with a paramecia we've seen thus far. Yes it's dangerous, but I feel a lot of fruits could be just as useful/deadly if its user had as great a mastery as Magellan.
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Magellan's difficult to fight. You can't touch him, he can turn the air around you in to poison gas, or just flood you with poison. There's a reason why Doku Doku no Mi is a paramecia, because if it was a logia it would be way too powerful. You see with all these Logia types they have a clear weakness (Ice fire, fire magma, sand water) etc etc, and the reason why Jozu and Magellan are paramecia is because they would be too powerful as Logia types.
However, Magellan is almost as good as a Logia because he can manipulate poison, he himself doesn't have to be made of poison.
But I agree Magellan's got great mastery of his fruit, up there with Croc and Luffy, who if you think about it don't have the best abilities in their class.
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I've honestly viewed Kuma's fruit as incredibly powerful if honed and mastered correctly; the right reflexes means he could practically teleport anywhere and reflect anything, and given the fact that he could expel Luffy's "pain" with his fruit I'm sure there's more to it that we have yet to learn.
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To be fair out of everyone I think he uses his DF ability the best.
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@Lazy:
To be fair out of everyone I think he uses his DF ability the best.
I don't think Kaku does.
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Yeah, I remember Aokiji doing the same thing by opening a crack on his torso to let Whitebeard's Bisento pass through him.
And Buggy's DF ability is actually not that impressive, especially compared to the likes of Magellan, Kuma, Jozu and Whitebeard.
Yea having a good devil fruit helps but its all about whos hands its in, even the somewhat useless ones can be honed into something great depending on the user. Magellan does wonders with his due to like the others have said, and his mastery of it and all its uses. In buggys case he probably still has many untapped uses for it that he has yet to explore, who knows what he may be capable of, for all we know he could separate his body parts down to a molecular level and appear as dust. Its within possibility considering he was turned to julian fries by mihawk and he was just fine. Its one of the many awesome possibilities of any devil fruit, they all have more than one use and its only inhibition is the users creativity.
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@Venomous:
Yea having a good devil fruit helps but its all about whos hands its in, even the somewhat useless ones can be honed into something great depending on the user. Magellan does wonders with his due to like the others have said, and his mastery of it and all its uses. In buggys case he probably still has many untapped uses for it that he has yet to explore, who knows what he may be capable of, for all we know he could separate his body parts down to a molecular level and appear as dust. Its within possibility considering he was turned to julian fries by mihawk and he was just fine. Its one of the many awesome possibilities of any devil fruit, they all have more than one use and its only inhibition is the users creativity.
Magellan has an awesome fruit. He cant be touched without the person being poisoned. Haki might bypass that but it might not. I also dont really see magellan having some amazing mastery of his fruit. He uses lots of abilities but I dont think that has to mean he has mastered it. His only goal is to splash you with his attack because he knows it will kill you if even a few drops hit you. So hydra and his breath actually seem like the easiest ways to use his fruit.
Buggy's fruit could be really really good or really really bad. It just depends on what its limits are established to be. I dont think we will ever get those limits though.
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@Lazy:
The Logia user can always dodge Haki attacks - as I believe Akainu just molded his body so that the sword wouldn't cut him (WB commander, can't remember his name). Technically, Buggy has one of the most useful DF abilities out there, he just doesn't know how to use it properly (like Kizaru, although he's a little better at it).
I don't think that Akainu dodged the attack, but got cut by it. That is how he could tell they were haki users because he was hurt. Haki doesn't exactly cancel devil fruit powers it just allows some one to damage a devil fruit user. Like when Sentomaru hurt Luffy it didn't cancel out his rubber powers it just damaged him.
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Magellan learned to make a number of different poisons, and spread them through a variety of methods. If nothing else, figuring out venom road, hydra, and venom demon show a talent for using his Fruit.
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@Doke:
I don't think that Akainu dodged the attack, but got cut by it.
http://www.mangareader.net/103-47005-7/one-piece/chapter-574.html
So he not only survived having half his throat slashed away but he didn't even bleed from it? Seems more likely he molded his body around the blade.
@Doke:
That is how he could tell they were haki users because he was hurt.
Sentomaru knew Luffy used haki against the pacafista, characters who know haki seem to know when others are using haki.
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I've honestly viewed Kuma's fruit as incredibly powerful if honed and mastered correctly; the right reflexes means he could practically teleport anywhere and reflect anything, and given the fact that he could expel Luffy's "pain" with his fruit I'm sure there's more to it that we have yet to learn.
My exact first thoughts when I saw Kuma's ability. I thought it was way too overpowered. He could teleport and he could deflect any attacks coming his way. Even if you did manage to get a hit in, he's a freaking cyborg. I also think he could deflect the pain out of his body like he did with Luffy. So yeah, with lightning fast reflexes this fruit is almost unstoppable.
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http://www.mangareader.net/103-47005-7/one-piece/chapter-574.html
So he not only survived having half his throat slashed away but he didn't even bleed from it? Seems more likely he molded his body around the blade.
Sentomaru knew Luffy used haki against the pacafista, characters who know haki seem to know when others are using haki.
Akainu is made of magma. If you slice magma with a sword it would return to its original form, just like Akainu did. Haki's effectiveness as far as we know is based on the user's skill. There is a high probability that Akainu is better at using Haki than Vista or Marco.
I mean I guess its possible that once someone is a haki user they are able to tell that others are, but there really isn't any evidence for this. Sentomaru more likely could tell that Luffy was using haki because pacifistas are made out of something that is stronger than steel and he one hit KOed one, where as 2 years before all the strawhats could barely take one out.
Of course I don't know for sure, but in the case of the other logia users we saw that they didn't dodge before being hit, but in stead were hit, but because they were made of whatever element they are the attack just passes through them, with the exception of Black Beard. Enel had mantra and was intentionally not dodging attacks, but still was able to not take any damage from anyone other than Luffy.
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Here’s something I’ve been thinking about, concerning Donquixote Doflamingo
The strangest thing that I've noticed about him, that no else seems to mention is that he’s always wearing glasses. In every time -period that he’s in, he’s wearing glasses, even when he’s wearing goggles(chapter 0), and there always dark in color,why? I think I know, it has something to do with his devil fruit powers. I think, like Luffy he got he’s powers when he was young and eyes have something to do with those powers, what that is, I’m not sure of. What I assume it is something involving eye contact with living organisms.
You see I think he can lock on to people within his field of vision, but he can only manipulate the amount to the amount of eyes that he has in this case two (don’t recall him controlling more than that). The finger movement could be a way of making people preform intricate gestures,or in offense situation, the finger gestures could be used to pin point a specific body part to sever. The lock on is probably canceled if someone makes direct eye contact with him, thus being the reason why he wears dark sunglasses.
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@Superbear:
Here’s something I’ve been thinking about, concerning Donquixote Doflamingo
The strangest thing that I've noticed about him, that no else seems to mention is that he’s always wearing glasses. In every time -period that he’s in, he’s wearing glasses, even when he’s wearing goggles(chapter 0), and there always dark in color,why? I think I know, it has something to do with his devil fruit powers. I think, like Luffy he got he’s powers when he was young and eyes have something to do with those powers, what that is, I’m not sure of. What I assume it is something involving eye contact with living organisms.
You see I think he can lock on to people within his field of vision, but he can only manipulate the amount to the amount of eyes that he has in this case two (don’t recall him controlling more than that). The finger movement could be a way of making people preform intricate gestures,or in offense situation, the finger gestures could be used to pin point a specific body part to sever. The lock on is probably canceled if someone makes direct eye contact with him, thus being the reason why he wears dark sunglasses.
Or maybe he just likes wearing sunglasses all the time…
Still, it's an interesting thing to think about.
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This kind of random and probably already known, but the way I see it, and by the pattern that been developing for the past decade, Paramecia type devil fruit users can be spilt into three groups. They are involuntary, voluntary, and conditioners.
Those who belong to the involuntary group, don’t have to mentally activate their powers and are (fill in the blank all the time). Members of this group include: Luffy, Kuma, Mr.1, Buggy, Alvida, Wapol etc.
Voluntary users have to mentally activate their powers and hold no special qualities when their powers are at rest (Magellan is an exception) Example include: Miss Valentines Day, Kalifa, Miss Doublefinger, Mr.3, Law, Moriah, Kidd, Basil, Apoo, Bonney, Robin etc.
Conditioners are users whose powers only work if certain standards are met or are limited to what the user has on his/her person. Examples include: Bon clay, Decken, Brook, and Shiki (possibly Tsuru).
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I've thought this too, and personally called them Sub-Logias, Inner-based, and Outer/contact based.
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Questions about the Goro Goro no Mi. Could Eneru shoot lightning without transforming himself? And could he wrap electricity around his body so that it moves around his body like in this video?
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Yes to all, El Thor, and him being pissed off are good examples.
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Awesome. So i saw in the anime Enel could also float in the air, but could he actually fly? And we saw Enel travel fast across great distances, so is Enel able to teleport aswell?
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@ShenLong:
Awesome. So i saw in the anime Enel could also float in the air, but could he actually fly? And we saw Enel travel fast across great distances, so is Enel able to teleport aswell?
From various instances, I got the impression that he could teleport, and most logia users have a form of levitation or advanced transportation; the only ones who can "fly" to my knowledge are Crocodile and Smoker.
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Than i wonder which Logia devil fruit is the most powerful, the Goro Goro ni Mi has Teleportation, high destruction properties and near invincibility. I think the only devil fruit which is equal to it is the Pika Pika no Mi.
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@ShenLong:
Than i wonder which Logia devil fruit is the most powerful, the Goro Goro ni Mi has Teleportation, high destruction properties and near invincibility. I think the only devil fruit which is equal to it is the Pika Pika no Mi.
The Yami Yami no Mi should, in theory beat the Pika pika no Mi, because in the real world, gravity from black holes has the power to bend light.
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@Superbear:
Yes to all, El Thor, and him being pissed off are good examples.
Well for El Thor, Ener transforms his arm into a lightning ball and send it to the air before striking with it
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So could Enel shoot lightning without transforming his hand?
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Like making the sky shooting lightning only thanks to his will ? I don't think so.
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@Monkey:
Like making the sky shooting lightning only thanks to his will ? I don't think so.
well he can if there are storm clouds, that was the point of the deathpiea from the maxim arc.
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Even with deathpiea, he has to send a lightning bolt coming from his body into the clouds in order to make them shooting lightnings :
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Oh…I don't know if can shoot lightning bolts from his hand without transforming...I think, but I'm really not sure.