Gekko doesn't need my money. He's got tons of it on his exotic moon resort.
Mette, we should totally revive the wiki thread and have waffle battles
Gekko doesn't need my money. He's got tons of it on his exotic moon resort.
Mette, we should totally revive the wiki thread and have waffle battles
Wow this thread for out of hand. I honestly started reading this thread with the idea that there may be something here, and wanting to find out what it was. I asked many times–both here and in the replies to the PMs I;ve gotten on this, and tbh I still do not entirely understand, and while I respect and assume you started with a positive intent, it seems now to be something different. While I hate it when mods say stuff like "this thread has less dumb in it than I expected..." it pales when it comes to comparing mods to evil dictators, and assuming people will be banned for voicing opinions. Smudge, please. Gain some perspective. Its an i-net forum, and mods are volunteers. Its is very insulting to assume negative intent to begin with, but to assume some sort of power-hungry motive behind everything is just too much.
As I already said, the fact that there is a group of mods means there is a built in system of checks and balances. Does that mean the system is perfect, or that a little smug elitism and superiority of the type I mention above won't sneak in here and there--obviously not, but please--mods are people. Real people with real feelings, and an intent to do their best, despite whatever personal feelings they may have. I know for a fact that the rest of the group tries their best to help out when things feel too personal and perspective is lost, as it surely must be at times, because that is simply human--this is in part what having a group is supposed to accomplish--and it does work. It is not a dictatorship--it is a committee. A carefully chosen committee.
As for the hierarchy not being open or those at the bottom not feeling they have a voice, that is ridiculous, and I hope I never said anything to anyone to give them the impression I felt that way. I personally have expressed disagreement with the upper echelon--even the admins, Smudge. I feel nothing holding me back from doing that despite "only" being a sub-forum mod. I generally try to voice my feelings both in PMs and on the forums very carefully to make sure my actual point isn't lost in negativity, so I hope I am not being too direct and personal in this, but I want to be absolutely clear about what I feel. I'm sorry, you know I like you Smudge, but you are being way too emotional about this... and frankly accusations such as that are more than sufficient to create a schism, even if one never existed before. Being a mod is not an easy thing in many ways--and while that of course doesn't excuse staff from trying their best to maintain a positive attitude towards general forum members, it might behoove the general membership to remember more often that they are people, not evil all powerful dictators looking for their next victim to make themselves feel more powerful and big, or whatever it is dictators feel when they do the horrible things they do.
When I make decisions about moving threads, closing threads, deleting posts, I do so on my own. I explain myself because it is the way I work as a mom and a teacher--it is my philosophy to teach so that the person both knows what they did so they can try not to make the same mistake again, and to teach others by example as well. I can't see how people will improve otherwise, and it feels wrong for me not to do it. That is me--that is not the phylosophy of every mod on here, and that is fine. We all have a different style, and I think in the end that is best, since there are a wide variety of posters as well. Each with their own backgrounds and history with authority figures. They all respond to something different--so its good that there is variety. There is no need for uniformity. There is only need for communication.
IMHO mutual respect is the key.
Here is my feedback
You've just created the topic to attention seek
like with the science thread thing "Oh god lets sticky some new idea that no-one really has shown that they care much about because its minnnneeeeee"
and the beelzeforums thing where you went off to create your own forum and slunk back here after it failed
and you're not answering any of ruggies questions because you tapped out onto your keyboard without engaging your brain and you have no answers to your inane questions.
that is my feedback.
Now I need to go back to being oppressed by our hitler admins.
Gekko doesn't need my money. He's got tons of it on his exotic moon resort.
Mette, we should totally revive the wiki thread
and have waffle battles
Or go to fp chat :p
And I still need to make a meet the mods trailer , who wants to be the heavy weapons guy?
@metteminne:
Or go to fp chat :p
And I still need to make a meet the mods trailer , who wants to be the heavy weapons guy?
lol yeah, or that. but you know, that wiki thread I suggested a long time ago was meant as a fun way to get to know people better. It even had a lot of momentum at first. It's might have worked better if the actual thing wasn't on a different website cuz after the 4-week break, people lost interest.
Heavy weapons should obviously go to Urouge. :ninja:
If I was an admin, I would make an e-harmony profile and link it in my sig so all the members can find out how they sync up with me based on thousands of compatibility quotients!
–- Update From New Post Merge ---
In case my totally wacky responses have not indicated anything, I have actually paid a lot of attention to this thread and given it quite a bit of thought and examination. I will not write a large, overbearing post on the subject. I only have one blunt response that sums up my thoughts in relation to this entire topic:
Vague. Indeterminate.
This is also an excellent point i wanted to bring up (not sure if have) about creating a transparent place for staff and members. I know a lot of you are busy, but if would be nice to have something we could openly converse with you on.
Though I think if you want some of your life to remain personal then keep it like that as its your right to do so. But banter and small things can often replace the need for that depth.
Request: When you folks do get around to destroying me, could you post the jaws theme music moments before.
Would be an epic way to go out.
Are you trolling for a ban? Are you really?
They banter all over the damn place. They always have! Did when they were regular posters, still do now. Hell, some of them are bantering in this very thread! There's no need for a "transparent place" because this isn't China, goddamn.
You act like the moment a mod appears s/he's there to trample over your little Precious Moments tea party.
They're in here trying to figure out what you want but "no suh, no siriee, i'ma jus go march up onto dat execution platform n' put my head under dat dere guillotine. For the cause. );" Now folks are feeling adversarial when they never did and your purpose of creating a problem out of what could have been a very helpful discussion has been served. Grats.
Every post you go "they're gonna ban me for speaking, they're gonna ban me, the cruel One Piece forum mod proletariat North Korean regime!" like you're trying to make a non-issue into a self-fulfilling prophecy. You're hurling insults and making off-the-wall conjecture to earnest, sincere answers and ignoring everything that does not agree with your drive - which has been, from the start, to vaguely disagree with how the mods run things. You introduce the notion of "they'll ban me if I say too much…!" as if it were clever, as if it were subtle, and then mention it in every subsequent post despite it not even being on the table. Right: they'll ban you for using the suggestions subforum for suggestions.
It's the furthest thing from the truth.
If they banned you, it'd be for trolling.
–-
May cooler heads prevail for the remainder of this thread? I'd like something good to come of this.
Can we get some people in here willing to have a big boys discussion about things they might like to see?
@Holy:
If I was an admin, I would make an e-harmony profile and link it in my sig so all the members can find out how they sync up with me based on thousands of compatibility quotients!
you had me at free ice cream
wait, there's ice cream…. where?
@metteminne:
Somebody edit this now
And don't forget to add in the rest of the mods. Buster Call is the medic. Robby can be Demo or Soldier.
I really do miss that wiki btw (not greatly or anything). I'm just curious why people stopped posting in the thread.
And don't forget to add in the rest of the mods. Buster Call is the medic. Robby can be Demo or Soldier.
I really do miss that wiki btw (not greatly or anything). I'm just curious why people stopped posting in the thread.
Well, I think people stopped posting because a wall was put up between …. oh wait that's something else O_o
Or, it could have been due to the fact that the profiles for the mods were all made up
maybe next time, the creator could try interviewing the mods/admins :ninja: Oh, I forgot about the wall
Freedom will be the pyro for shit and giggles
And why can't I use Gimp , stupid x11
I've tried reading this thread a few times over and I'm sorry but I still don't really get what's being proposed here. My initial thoughts were an open feedback thread, which makes some sense and all, but it seems to have spiraled into something ridiculous. I don't get why this is even argued when all it takes to get to know an admin or mod is as simple as getting to know a regular member. Drop a PM or a VM! Ask them how they've been or how they are. Even the most quiet of mods are easy enough to talk to. I mean, I randomly struck up a conversation with Windrays when he was still mod and it was just like talking to a regular member. And I'm terrible at talking to people, so if I can do it, anybody can!
Yeah.
I mean Kitsune has to be worried about being turned into a coat, and he stilll pulls it off.
For me personally I'm always fairly active in manga/anime and super active in VG for games I like.
Well in all seriousness I thought it was about better comminucation with mods and that a vm or a pm seems a bit weird if you don't know the person to well
Well, I think people stopped posting because a wall was put up between …. oh wait that's something else O_o
Or, it could have been due to the fact that the profiles for the mods were all made up
maybe next time, the creator could try interviewing the mods/admins :ninja: Oh, I forgot about the wall
What? You mean to tell me that Robby wasn't "abandoned in the Antarctic to be raised by the Bobart husky pack"? M-My world has been shattered!! How dare you toy with the heart of a young maiden!! :shocked:
Oh and another random example of staff related questions: who is mumbo and why is he part of the staff. Nobody knows anything about him and can't see why he should have a position when it could go to somebody more capable or dedicated.
He's not part of the staff. He's an editor.
People being silenced and media being moderated to the extent that the people cannot express themselves at all, nor feel safe doing so. Yeah that comparison is nothing like north koreas mindset.
Though please do indulge us as to one you think is more fitting, though I'm not sure you would know any more from that throne of yours.
I think, in my omnipotent fashion, that you should express yourself through tangible examples rather than vague concepts.
You know what, I'm not even going to bother responding to all these random lies and accusations. Also, a forum is not a government and the two really can't be compared. So just stop.
I haven't been vague nor not given examples of this threads usage. But as you would like them delivered to you directly I'll make another list of issues that would fall under this thread and reasons why they can't be done via the other options i have mentioned several times already. I'm also currently pooling in issues from various members to add to this as the next few days goes on so don't expect it all on a silver platter at once as this is a slow and delicate process.
Why? Just post one. That's enough to start with.
I'm not mentioning names and not mentioning specific situations as im not going to exacerbate it even more. Something that has also been requested to me by those involved due to them being to afraid to discuss it without a backlash.
So basically, you can't stomach the entire point of this thread in the first place. You want a place where you can post this stuff, but you still won't.
It is also here to discuss infractions you have got that are unfair. Or the possibility of having them removed after a set amount of time, or even just after the person has made significant changes after that event occurred. Permanent infractions are ridiculous and should have an expiration date that doesn't go into years.
Those are only visible to you and the staff, and while they act as a warning and deterrent, they also act as a record for us. It's not like we're blind and can't see the dates and look at the posts if we ever have to make a decision concerning them. I don't understand why you ever even look at them.
It should be used for the spoiler section only and nothing else. Something i think we should be able to discuss here as well. Not just this option but other rules at your disposal that we might not think fair or misused.
Bans are not up for debate. Period.
@I:
While I hate it when mods say stuff like "this thread has less dumb in it than I expected…"
That was supposed to be a compliment (to everyone who was posting). :cwy:
@metteminne:
Well in all seriousness I thought it was about better comminucation with mods and that a vm or a pm seems a bit weird if you don't know the person to well
If you have a forum issue you should always feel free to PM us.
Yeah. I mean Kitsune has to be worried about being turned into a coat, and he stilll pulls it off. For me personally I'm always fairly active in manga/anime and super active in VG for games I like.
So… what is your star sign?
You know what's the problem with these kind of threads, threads where we discuss about the forum or about forummembers. It's that they always end up in what I call "gossip-threads".
Gossip can be fun and is entertaining but it mostly only leads to drama and problems. I don't think that, that's the purpose of this site. Let's discuss manga, anime and the latest news.
And about the mods, everybody knows that there is just one evil mod out there. I don't want to get into a name-calling situation but coughrobbycoughbedfartcough.
@metteminne:
Freedom will be the pyro for shit and giggles
And why can't I use Gimp , stupid x11
The correct term is shiggles (shits and giggles) :silly:
I had a lengthy discussion with Smudge on IRC about this, and I basically told him, there's no need to force the situation.
The staff members are just members like everyone else. So, for those that share similar interests (whether staff or not) they'll get into discussions and develop a relationship with the other person.
Hopefully, Smudge will heed my advice and quit looking at the forum as some kind of country with governments and soldiers and prisoners of war.
If you have a forum issue you should always feel free to PM us.
Indeed. Everyone with a forum issue should PM Darkstorm.
@Badass:
Hi .
takes a bite out of Sno Ahhh brain freeze!! You're only partially ice cream anyway! Where's the dairy?
the staff are all just people
you can talk to people
we wont hurt you
takes a bite out of Sno Ahhh brain freeze!! You're only partially ice cream anyway! Where's the dairy?
I spit on dairy.
@taboo:
the staff are all just people
I thought the green symbolized you were all martians.
@RobbyBevard:
Is this just some big joke to you where you WANT to get banned and you're just trying to be as lengthy,drawn out and public about it as possible? So you can be a martyr to a cause that doesn't exist?
Last time i asked to be banned was for more personal reasons. Mostly to make sure i spent more time on my partner then the internet in general.
So that after being banned (which you seem to be asking for?) you can then go to facebook and complain about how unfair we are and feel righteous and vindicated?
I have to admit this is funny, but seriously I haven't or wouldn't ever take such a ridiculous route. I know we've had that in the past with other people, but when have i ever done that?
You've put my into some weird category that i can't see you being able to justify right now.
You have requested a ban in the past, got it, and then adopted a new user name. And then a few months later had the account re-merged with your old one. Is this more of the same?
No. As i said above the time i asked for a ban was for personal matters. When we split up i wanted to come back but under a different alias to start afresh, but people soon cottoned on to who i was so i thought it would be pointless keeping up the charade and return to my original account. Plus i wanted to see jesus banned from the forum. lol
You've shown dissatisfaction in the site before, said that you were bored with it and the people after five years (and that you want to be in an private posting section) and that you'd seen all the conversations before
It just felt like it was stagnating a while back due to several reasons but most of them have been resolved and i'm happier than ever truth be told. In fact it was the fact i've felt so much tighter in the community that I wanted to try and make a way of sharing that and improving feedback between staff and members. This was also spawned from many talks on irc and fb that people felt couldn't be pm'd, thread-worthy or applicable to the current threads we have.
but after five pages and many many lengthy paragraphs, I still have NO IDEA what it is you want.
A stickied feedback page for typical issues that arise. JUst like a one liner question but more aimed at the forum instead of the random unrelated stuff you see there. That way we can avoid the majority of threads that arise here, have an open discussion about issues and such and even give praise to staff that work so tirelessly to improve arlongpark.
If you want a ban, just ask for one, stop teasing with "when the evil personality-less mods that always fight among themselves get around to banning me for being harmless, it'll be a laugh!". You aren't going to be banned for asking questions. You can be by requesting one, thats not a problem, if all you want is an excuse to leave.
I might be misreading you but i honestly sense a lot of hostility in this message and can't see why you are so enraged with this thread or the posts i've made. Sorry if i have been a bit tactless or terse with some of my responsibilities but I just felt it would have been worth it in the long run. May aim here has never been a selfish one.
Also I don't believe the staff are robots. Not in the slightest. I know that from conversing with over half of them on a regular basis. I'm just a little disappointed i haven't had a chance with the rest, be it down to us not sharing interests in certain areas of the forum, or just the different time factors that come into play meaning our work hours make it impossible to get those chances. Though as silence said it would be cool to have a nice area for each staff member like the dude had (though less comedic) where we can converse with them if they agree to it.
We've been patient. Left this thread open for discussion. Asked for clarification, and answered questions. Get around to actually making a point that isn't that YOU personally don't seem to know us very well, despite our regular posting.
Its hard to get to know someone through posting anywhere outside the general section thread tbh. The rest of it is more down to debating than personal topics and outlooks.
You bring up the fact that you and I clashed in the Naruto thread. That's because… it was the Naruto thread, had nothing to do with you personally. (Naruto is its own can worms.) All the misunderstanding, and lack of knowing people, is on YOUR end. You make a ton of assumptions that just... aren't true.
The fact I had five infractions from you after all that made me feel otherwise as well as the responses and lack of humour you ever shared with me. Yeah I deserved half of what i got, but some of it felt more from the fact you were still focusing on the silly debates we had about secondary characters. Now i know that might have been completely opposite to what you had in mind, but from my perspective it felt otherwise. Hence why I spent so long trying to speak to other staff on advice on how to resolve the rift that was between us.
Back in the day when you didn't have your mod powers we would all joke and so on, but then you got them and became quite detached from us. And i know the reason was the fact you had pressure on you from the staff to keep the black naruto hole inside its own thread, but you were stressed and seemed to take it out of staff.
I have no problems with you. The staff is on instant messenger with each other all the time. We agree on things as a staff and ar pretty friendly with one another, and talk about more than just staff work. (The April Fools fight with Zephos as a mod was coordinated behind the scenes, honest.) Most of us post a lot and respond to a lot of people and spend a lot of time on this site..
You know i totally missed all that I just remember coming back to seeing loads of mates banned and chaos everywhere lol.
And there's already half a dozen ways to communicate with the staff, AS STAFF… and plenty of conventional ways to talk to us AS PEOPLE. They aren't incredibly interconnected things, and at the same time they aren't some strange wall barrier either.
Well, maybe could persuade you lot to drop by irc every now and then. Even if once a month or so for 5 minutes. I would say fb but that page is too much of a headache to keep up with.
Anyway if you staff feel this thread is not worth it then its fine by me if you close it. I currently think it would be a nice addition to put on trial but its down to you folks to make the decisions. I've pretty much covered all i want to say on this.
And as i have said before my intention was never to upset the staff/members or create a barrier between the two, but to do the opposite. Something I think i've failed at pretty hard. Either way thank you everyone for taking the time to discuss the subject, much appreciated.
@Badass:
I thought the green symbolized you were all martians.
But what about the grey ones!? and the yellow ones!?
the staff are all just people
you can talk to people
we wont hurt you
http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ls1gbfuJDY1qf0ocgo1_250.gif
So… did you catch that ludicrous display last night?
@metteminne:
But what about the grey ones!? and the yellow ones!?
Moon Men and Yellow Snow Monsters? Duh.
@Badass:
Moon Men and Yellow Snow Monsters? Duh.
Ofcourse! But the red ones then? Ground indians?
What about the blues and purples?
@metteminne:
Ofcourse! But the red ones then? Ground indians?
Yes. But only if you believe.
What about the blues and purples?
Those are just ordinary translators and site editors.
@Badass:
Moon Men and Yellow Snow Monsters? Duh.
Reminds me of that one "astronaut" avatar Brennen once had. It was cool as heck.
My introduction:
Hi! I'm Gekko135… you might wonder why I have numbers in my username? No, there are not 134 other Gekko's on this forum... so I really cannot explain that. I pretend to be rich and like michael douglas cause he was cool in Wallstreet (thanks for the reccomend Darkstorm). Ummm... that's about it if I have to say. I like One Piece, yet don't really talk about it on here cause I have IRL friends to talk about it with. I generally lurk and just am interested in members in general. Not like pets or anything... well sorta... you all are so fun to observe. But then again, I like talking with people and seeing what they say when I talk (like most everyone else who has ever been on a message board). I like members like Silence and Holy Hell. They are really cool and I strive to be as smart as them someday. I don't really feel like talking about my personal life, and those who are more astute and aware will pick up pieces of my real self from my posts. But I will say that I type how I talk.... exactly.
Here is my advice to members wondering... "How should I conduct myself at Arlong Park Forums?"
Think before you post.
Dont be a dick for no reason.
Don't be a bitch (weenie).
And think before you fucking post.
-end
I'm about as disconnected as a (sub)mod can get... yet people seem to like me? I just try to be fair, funny, and down to earth. I come here for fun. But really, don't expect that from all of us. There are people who have waaaaay more responsibilities than me and the other sub mods. And at the end of things... we're all just different people in general.
Ahem~
Replace the word "money" with "forum".
soo..... yeah...!
And honestly people. This place is not the dictatorship some people are making it out to be. There are HOURS on end where i've been the only one watching this place (to my knowledge)... and i'm not really watching everywhere. I've likened the park MANY TIMES to being the wild fucking west. Tons of shit get slipped through the cracks. Or just ignored. Hell my job is to look out for bullshit in general. And that's usually what I take care of or report to my robot masters.
Go to Something Awful. You'll find like... a whole galaxy of different boards to post on with almost an INFINITE amount of topics. You'll feel like a little ant. And if you cross a mod.... you will be swiftly dealt with, made fun of, and told exactly why you fucked up.
So… did you catch that ludicrous display last night?
the show?
yes. yes i did.
still feeling pretty
i'm not sure i like where this is going but Misha Collins is still pretty awesome for playing so many fucking characters in a single show
THE DUDE PLAYING THE DUDE DISGUISED AS ANOTHER DUDE THAT'S POSSESSED BY THE DUDES
Here is my feedback
You've just created the topic to attention seek
If you honestly believe that then you don't know me at all and have taken random specs of my past to create the image you've just thrown at me.
like with the science thread thing "Oh god lets sticky some new idea that no-one really has shown that they care much about because its minnnneeeeee"
Actually I felt we had a lot of news that came up that could be housed under that topic just as we did with the revolutions thread. As for names and ego's you can keep them. My interest was merely trying to improve the news by taking out a portion of interesting topics that fell under it at the time. I even made a thread asking you folks if it was a good idea and got next to no feedback so i made it. By all means remove my name from every single thread I've made. I don't care about that kind of thing.
and the beelzeforums thing where you went off to create your own forum and slunk back here after it failed
I rushed the forum too early to let it pick up. The fact is it is one of the best mangas out there atm, with an anime series before it even reached chapter 80 and won an award. I wanted to give it a forum…end of. Its just a shame I don't have the resources and translators to have kept it going as seen with several other translator sites.
and you're not answering any of ruggies questions because you tapped out onto your keyboard without engaging your brain and you have no answers to your inane questions.
Whatever questions i've had I've answered or left because i felt they were covered earlier.
that is my feedback.
Now I need to go back to being oppressed by our hitler admins.
Yeah i can understand a joke, but this is just really dirty what you are doing here. Your trying to claim i wanted some kind of attention and that this is all some giant game when its not! You think my ego is tied up to half of the actions i have taken when inn truth it was more of me trying to give something back to the park i've enjoyed for so many years.
Now i might as well sit back and watch the crowd gather and make up and completely false image of me that was only ever doing this to create some kind of holy war for my own pleasure.
And finally I don't get why you of all people would say this to me out of the blue when we have never conflicted once or had issues, so why do it now?
the show?
yes. yes i did.
still feeling pretty
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v472/nanu/tumblr_lh8w6ntTQg1qexta1.gif
i'm not sure i like where this is going but Misha Collins is still pretty awesome for playing so many fucking characters in a single show
THE DUDE PLAYING THE DUDE DISGUISED AS ANOTHER DUDE THAT'S POSSESSED BY THE DUDES
I wish I knew what you were talking about. Because it sounds exciting.
! Damn that disconnect.
! >!
Smudger, you asked for some kind of open debate and this is what I genuinely think looking at your posts in this thread, no sugarcoating, nothing. You haven't answered Urouge's questions about what needs to be done at all.
I don't generally strike out at anyone unless they're being a giant douche. Excuse me if I got a bit annoyed when you likened this place and friends of mine to north korea's regime.
I wish I knew what you were talking about. Because it sounds exciting.
! Damn that disconnect.
! >!
!
i thought you were talking about supernatural
on topic:
! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v472/nanu/tumblr_lqt06oBIVX1qbe9r2.gif
i thought you were talking about supernatural
! My interest in urban fantasy ended when Buffy did.
I'm sorry, but I don't see why the mods are that scary to approach. If you mean something along the lines of 'approaching them with a question you're afraid to ask', I can understand that to an extent, but mostly because I've been there.
I'm not going to say names, but I accidentally got a friend banned when we were giggling over a web comic we used to read. When he made a certain inappropriate joke to one of the mods (it was pretty inappropriate….but in terms of the comic we read, pretty tame), he got banned. I felt pretty bummed and guilty, so I decided to speak to the mod. I basically said, "I'm sorry that the two of us got as caught up in our jokes as we did, and I apologize that his joke reached that level. If I could explain the joke, it did have a lesser meaning than what you think and is far more comedic than dirty. It doesn't excuse him, but I'm just curious if this ban is permanent. I'm sorry, but being responsible for this and knowing the source of the joke, I feel it IS a bit harsh if it's a permanent ban or a long term ban."
The mod was no means overjoyed by my message, but actually responded with decency. "I understand your concern, and it's good of you to take ownership. However, I did find the joke to be a bit overboard and disturbing, and he did have other offenses before this post. Still, it is not permanent, and the ban is not that long." That was pretty much the jist, and the member was not only returned to the forum within a week, but he's still a frequent member of this forum.
The thing is, the mods aren't as scary as we think they are (except Freedom....fucker scares the shit out of me). They ARE approachable, and believe me, my stories of previous mods in another forum are so much worse. At least these mods EXIST and can COMMUNICATE. Those might have well been cyborgs.
If you're in the dog house with them, then yeah, it's not going to be easy. But if that's the case, recovery. Show that you can actually post on the forum without problem. Hell, I've been banned. Granted, for a short term and I was apologetic, but I had every reason to be banned for what I did. =/
If you have an issue, just communicate with decency. If you come in demanding or belittling, they're not exactly going to be pleased to do it.
And it's not like, "OH! We have to please the mods! If we approach them with the most minuscule of tasks without 'please' and 'thank you', they'll bark at us with annoyance!" No. You're asking them to do a task, and I don't know about you, I'm not the biggest fan of someone barking at me to do something without that tiniest bit of kindness. I have people do it to me all the time.
And if they say 'No', then just let it go. And if they attack you when you were asking nicely, either you did something wrong in the past or that mod is having a bad day and needs to calm the fuck down (you know who you are....Freedom).
We need to relax. Be cool. Nothing on the Internet is worth that much anger or pain.
Smudger, you asked for some kind of open debate and this is what I genuinely think looking at your posts in this thread, no sugarcoating, nothing. You haven't answered Urouge's questions about what needs to be done at all.
I'll be honest I'm trying to answer a hell of a lot and can't cope doing it all. I'm on a massive amount of medication for some nerve damage and its slowly me down and destroying my concentration. Though I will try and sort out everything if you guys want tomorrow morning before i take the next dosage. I've still got Vanessas post to do and that was days ago..!
I don't generally strike out at anyone unless they're being a giant douche. Excuse me if I got a bit annoyed when you likened this place and friends of mine to north korea's regime.
I'm sorry if that caused offence. I merely was trying to express how i wanted more freedom/voice here. The thing you guys did to the Sea really sparked this as I didn't know you could even use that function outside the spoiler section. And whilst that function being needed for the spoiler section, I feel its something that should stay in the spoiler section. I don't know what Sea did and im not interested, I just didn't agree with the methods used on him.
I've insulted a lot of staff here by trying to use comparisons im familiar with while in my mind removing the horror that is tied with it. You aren't robots, nor dictators or anything like that. i just felt the structure here was similar to a democratic system with tiers of power and workers that make it all run smoothly. The only ting missing was the peoples voice/vote to the extent I thought we could bring it to.
Again I'm sorry if any of you felt offended by my posts. I haven't got an issue with you folk and respect you all. i just wanted a place to voice our side of things. I don't know how else to explain it other than to link you to other sites that have the same system in place?
! My interest in urban fantasy ended when Buffy did.
Maybe what AP needs is a "Meet the Mods!" post.
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Nah, I'm too lazy to draw, so here's this joke instead.
! My interest in urban fantasy ended when Buffy did.
you should give it a chance
then maybe i'll watch an episode of buffy since ive never seen that
@Cuddles:
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Nah, I'm too lazy to draw, so here's this joke instead.
You could edit the Heavy's face on Urouge :ninja: