They put sea stone on his body and then chop him up serial killer style. I'm sure they could have found the one that Wiper used earlier. Then wait for all the blood to drain before removing the sea stone. They could have even smashed his brain or remove his heart while unconscious.
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I always thought that they should have killed Enel. What's to stop him from going back to Sky Island and take over it once again when Luffy is gone? And I wouldn't have minded if Wapol had died. He is the only canon villian to actually annoy me. I've never been able to watch the Wapol fight in its entirety a second time because I just don't like him. The only part I watch is where Luffy wins.
enel is the same as croc in the sense that arabasta and skypiea are not in any danger from them
they have 0 interest in those places
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They put sea stone on his body and then chop him up serial killer style. I'm sure they could have found the one that Wiper used earlier. Then wait for all the blood to drain before removing the sea stone. They could have even smashed his brain or remove his heart while unconscious.
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Seconded.
Hinscher has it right, both used those places for a grander plan, then move on with no interest.
I see him returning to the Blue Sea to see what the fuss is about, but get unerved (scared like a little girl probably.) when he sees Luffy again and shocked at his increase in power and abilities. Do we know if any of his priests are alive?
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Seconded.
Hinscher has it right, both used those places for a grander plan, then move on with no interest.
I see him returning to the Blue Sea to see what the fuss is about, but get unerved (scared like a little girl probably.) when he sees Luffy again and shocked at his increase in power and abilities. Do we know if any of his priests are alive?
Gedatsu should be working on a hot-spring island, not sure about the others.
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Gedatsu should be working on a hot-spring island, not sure about the others.
How Careless!
Forgets to breathe…
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Gedatsu should be working on a hot-spring island, not sure about the others.
i'm sure that the other ones were exiled on a desert cloud
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I always thought that they should have killed Enel. What's to stop him from going back to Sky Island and take over it once again when Luffy is gone? And I wouldn't have minded if Wapol had died. He is the only canon villian to actually annoy me. I've never been able to watch the Wapol fight in its entirety a second time because I just don't like him. The only part I watch is where Luffy wins.
Enel is stuck on the moon with a bunch of Mustached robots. And Wapol's survival led to the eventual discovery of the adaptable alloy Wapolmetal, which allowed Franky to finish Vegapunk's design for a giant transforming Mecha. If he had died, this would have never happened. Plus, compared to several others, Wapol's cruelty seems out of selfishness and stupidity, rather than just sheer cruelty. He technically only killed one person (Hiruluk), who was technically a criminal in the first place. Everyone else he just withheld doctors from like a spoiled child. Arlong killed people and destroyed their homes. Crocodile caused a country-wide drought by cloud-seeding and started a rebellion that cost hundreds of lives. Enel played god and blew up people who disagreed. Kuro attempted to slaughter his entire crew… so on and so forth. Wapol just seems like a immature child rather than a villain. Why, of all the people in One Piece, should he have died?
Also, the only priest that died is the fire lance guy. Wiper hit him in the heart with a Reject Dial. Also, the fat guy probably died too since Robin broke his spine and threw him off a cliff. She broke Spandam's spine and he lived, but she didn't throw him off a sheer cliff, too...
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@Fire Fist:
Everyone else he just withheld doctors from like a spoiled child
Implying people didn't die from this? I agree with your other points though, killing in these instances at least isn't really necessary.
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@Fire Fist:
He technically only killed one person (Hiruluk), who was technically a criminal in the first place.
Wapol never killed Hiruluk. He ordered his men to kill him, but Hiruluk blew himself up before that happened.
Also, the only priest that died is the fire lance guy. Wiper hit him in the heart with a Reject Dial. Also, the fat guy probably died too since Robin broke his spine and threw him off a cliff. She broke Spandam's spine and he lived, but she didn't throw him off a sheer cliff, too…
This is One Piece. A character isn't dead until we see a corpse or someone says so.
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Wapol never killed Hiruluk. He ordered his men to kill him, but Hiruluk blew himself up before that happened.
I know that. Hence the "technically". He forced Hiruluk into a position that would either have him die from Chopper's poison mushroom, or die from being executed. He instead choose a third option: Blowing himself up.
This is One Piece. A character isn't dead until we see a corpse or someone says so.
Yama, fine. But Shura was hit with a reject dial. In the heart. Something that killed Eneru. Eneru's heart stopped and he had to bring himself back to life. Shura can't do that. He's dead.
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All priest that were with Enel, have been banished to a desert cloud by the Shandians.
This includes Shura. He is indeed alive. If he was dead, it would be much more obvious. No character of importance, at the time of the arc, dies without it being obvious.
Sooooooooo… yep... pretty sure hes alive...
Edit - Cause I'm sure I'll get asked how i know this, it was confirmed in SBS. I don't remember which issue, but I remember reading it. All of Priest were banished.... so yeah. That includes Shura
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Seriously?
Yes. Seriously. If you want every character in OP around fine, but I love death in the stories I read.
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Yes. Seriously. If you want every character in OP around fine, but I love death in the stories I read.
Ace and white beard died
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Yes. Seriously. If you want every character in OP around fine, but I love death in the stories I read.
R: Why doesn't Luffy ever kill his enemies? If you look back, he didn't kill Mohji, he didn't kill Helmeppo or Captain Morgan, or anyone. Well, Zoro was the one who beat Morgan, but still. Why?
O: Ahh, good question. First of all, Morgan is still alive. He's being held in prison now by his former subordinates. So why didn't Luffy kill him? In this era, people put their lives on their beliefs and convictions, and fight. When he goes into battle, Luffy is destroying others' beliefs. And when these enemies' beliefs are shattered and defeated, they feel a pain equal to death. I think that for these pirates, killing or not killing is secondary to winning or losing.
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Thanks for sharing the reason why Luffy does not kill his enemies, and I know how broken their will where after their defeat except Wapol. Croc was mentally broken to the point he was willing to stay in IP, and Rob Lucci no longer get a free to kill card to satisfy his sick need to kill. You can't however, explain the reason Enel is happy after commiting mass murder. Wapol who is even richer after all the selvish acts he done agaisnt his people. I just feel these people should just what they deserve. Death…
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Luffy is not a marine, he's a pirate.
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Thanks for sharing the reason why Luffy does not kill his enemies, and I know how broken their will where after their defeat except Wapol. Croc was mentally broken to the point he was willing to stay in IP, and Rob Lucci no longer get a free to kill card to satisfy his sick need to kill. You can't however, explain the reason Enel is happy after commiting mass murder. Wapol who is even richer after all the selvish acts he done agaisnt his people. I just feel this people should just what they deserve. Death…
Sometimes i feel killing the bad guys are much better,
But… There are words like "You shouldnt kill" or "Love your enemies" which to me is we supposed to follow....
I really wanna follow this words, that people said that we should do this.
but the thing is, its not 100% that I feel this words...
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Thanks for sharing the reason why Luffy does not kill his enemies, and I know how broken their will where after their defeat except Wapol. Croc was mentally broken to the point he was willing to stay in IP, and Rob Lucci no longer get a free to kill card to satisfy his sick need to kill. You can't however, explain the reason Enel is happy after commiting mass murder. Wapol who is even richer after all the selvish acts he done agaisnt his people. I just feel this people should just what they deserve. Death…
Enel may have gotten to go to the moon, but his ego is badly injured.
He was unsuccessful in destroying Skypiea, and he knows that there is a man out there that can hurt/defeat him.As for Wapol, if he had died, Franky would have never used Wapometal with his machines, and we wouldn't have Franky Shogun, Brachio Tank V and Kurosai FR-U IV.
Wapol obviously still has a role to play in the story, and we'll probably see him later on in the New World. -
@Fire Fist:
Enel is stuck on the moon with a bunch of Mustached robots. And Wapol's survival led to the eventual discovery of the adaptable alloy Wapolmetal, which allowed Franky to finish Vegapunk's design for a giant transforming Mecha. If he had died, this would have never happened. Plus, compared to several others, Wapol's cruelty seems out of selfishness and stupidity, rather than just sheer cruelty. He technically only killed one person (Hiruluk), who was technically a criminal in the first place. Everyone else he just withheld doctors from like a spoiled child. Arlong killed people and destroyed their homes. Crocodile caused a country-wide drought by cloud-seeding and started a rebellion that cost hundreds of lives. Enel played god and blew up people who disagreed. Kuro attempted to slaughter his entire crew… so on and so forth. Wapol just seems like a immature child rather than a villain. Why, of all the people in One Piece, should he have died?
Also, the only priest that died is the fire lance guy. Wiper hit him in the heart with a Reject Dial. Also, the fat guy probably died too since Robin broke his spine and threw him off a cliff. She broke Spandam's spine and he lived, but she didn't throw him off a sheer cliff, too...
But he's still annoying.
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It's so much better to the story having these 100+ old characters that could come back anytime. And Oda knows how to use those stocked characters well. Writing a character off (specially a villain) by killing it is an easy way to end an arc, but it ends all possibilities with that character. Let's say all the Baroque Works agents had died in the end of the Alabasta arc. It wouldn't have changed much then. In fact nothing would've changed at all. But we wouldn't have had Croc's amazing comeback during Impel Down.
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Oda's reluctance to kill a character is why I love One Piece. I am actually allowed to like a character that is not part of the main cast without him randomly dying. What makes One Piece even better is that unlike some mangas, it does not kill off every villain in every arc, in fact the only major characters to die were good guys! This added so much more to help separate one piece from the others. If you don't like Oda's lack of killing, read Berserk on the side, it is what I do. One Piece is a happy adventure-themed manga, dark themes should not play a prominent part nor should romance, it would remove the fun.
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I tried to watch/read Beserk. It was kind of boring. I fell asleep through most episodes. I'd rather see characters like Kuro or Lucci come back rather than Wapol. Or even Gin. If the character is interesting, I don't mind them coming back later in the story. Others I'd more likely groan to have to see them in another arc.
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Ah I think Wapol appearing in the CS means that he won't show back up, or at least for a long time, while Krieg(not Kuro since he lacked ambition) may be somewhere in the grandline, maybe even the new world. Half of surviving the NW seemed to be up to luck anyways, there were plenty of below 100 million pirates.
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Was Hody Jones already mentioned in this topic? He has to be the most boring arc villain ever since Don Krieg.
Its so ironic how people think Hodi is lame when he's probably one of the more developed villains in all of One Piece loool.
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Its so ironic how people think Hodi is lame when he's probably one of the more developed villains in all of One Piece loool.
Yea, he is definitely at the top of arcvillains though he doesn't quite compare with the saga ending villains except for boring ol' Lucci.
Hm and since Don Krieg? I thought the only bad East Blue Villain was Kuro, Krieg was awesome. Though I can see why you are comparing him and hody, they have very similar personalities.
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Yea, he is definitely at the top of arcvillains though he doesn't quite compare with the saga ending villains except for boring ol' Lucci.
Hm and since Don Krieg? I thought the only bad East Blue Villain was Kuro, Krieg was awesome. Though I can see why you are comparing him and hody, they have very similar personalities.
I actually liked Kuro better than Krieg. Smart assholes are just better than an average asshole (in terms of villainy, of course). Kuro also had a more interesting motive and objective for his actions.
I'm still not sure what exactly Hody wants, which is why I dislike him. In one chapter, he says that he wants to rule over Fishman Island, then in the next one, he is trying to destroy it.
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I actually liked Kuro better than Krieg. Smart assholes are just better than an average asshole (in terms of villainy, of course). Kuro also had a more interesting motive and objective for his actions.
I'm still not sure what exactly Hody wants, which is why I dislike him. In one chapter, he says that he wants to rule over Fishman Island, then in the next one, he is trying to destroy it.
Hmm I see what you mean and it certainly looks like that could be what is happening. However, Hody did did say he could use what Decken was doing to his advantage so I assumed that meant to beat the strawhats and take over the island. I guess we will have to wait until Wednesday.
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Hody have the same objective that arlong, create a fishman empire, control all the humans, etc…
First he had to take over fishman island because he wants the humans to fear the fishman race, and a whole kingdom full of fishman who befriends with humans interpose with his plans.
Now, he can't take over the island because of luffy, so it's better to destroy it, this way he kills most of the fishman friends of humans, forces the strawhat pirates to fight underwater,.. and this way his only serious threat would be jinbe. -
Hody have the same objective that arlong, create a fishman empire, control all the humans, etc…
First he had to take over fishman island because he wants the humans to fear the fishman race, and a whole kingdom full of fishman who befriends with humans interpose with his plans.It's not just for this reason that he wants to be the king of ryuuguu kingdom. By being the king and thanks to the Tenryubito letter, he'll be able to acceed to the upcoming Rêverie in Marie Joa, and from here he intends to slaughter all the humans kings.
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Oda's reluctance to kill a character is why I love One Piece. I am actually allowed to like a character that is not part of the main cast without him randomly dying. What makes One Piece even better is that unlike some mangas, it does not kill off every villain in every arc, in fact the only major characters to die were good guys!
I think it is very hard to do this in a manga and that he walks a fine line, because when you read Bleach your like man nobody ever dies in this manga. I commend Oda for creating characters we like to see loose but not want to see die. kudos to him.
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@Monkey D, yes, i forgot that, it doesn't matter if fishman island is destroyed becuase the ryuguu kingdom is bigger than that (fishamn district, forest of sea, ryuguu palace) So if he destroys the island he take a big advantage against the strawhat pirates and he still can take over ryuguu kingdom.
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@Monkey D, yes, i forgot that, it doesn't matter if fishman island is destroyed becuase the ryuguu kingdom is bigger than that (fishamn district, forest of sea, ryuguu palace) So if he destroys the island he take a big advantage against the strawhat pirates and he still can take over ryuguu kingdom.
But all of Hodi's (known) allies are on FI. It seems he just does not care as he got his revenge.
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But all of Hodi's (known) allies are on FI. It seems he just does not care as he got his revenge.
Why would someone seek revenge??http://www.mangafox.com/manga/one_piece/v59/c611/15.html
zeo: we will execute the plan whatever the cost
http://www.mangafox.com/manga/one_piece/v59/c630/3.html
http://www.mangafox.com/manga/one_piece/v59/c630/4.html
dosun: boss hody is an irrational, extreme man, if you try to use us as hostages, he wouldn't think twice about tossing our lives away, he's been like that as long as anyone can remember, etc….
you can see that hody is disposed to sacrifice anyone as long as (as you said) he get his revenge. we'll have to wait for his motives. -
Leads being one of the cause of Tiger's death. []
I understand he had to go down quick for the sake of pacing, but still…... I was quite shocked myself.
If he died in some other plausible ways, it would've made me feel much better,
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What is unplausible about dying to bloodloss when he himself didn't accept getting more blood?
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What is unplausible about dying to bloodloss when he himself didn't accept getting more blood?
He kinda died from being shot…......
I believe that answers being unplausible. []
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He kinda died from being shot…......
I believe that answers being unplausible. [][/QUOTE]
Technically Whitebeard died from being shot, too. I think the point wasn't that he died from being shot, he just lost too much blood. He was shot a lot and to add to that caught by surprise.
Maybe I'm just being picky, but I don't see the issue here. Then again many characters have had worse and survived, that might be the real issue here. Who knows, maybe the anime adds some weight to it, flashbacks are usually better in the anime. -
To be fair, it seems even after being shot, he was tough enough that if he did accept the blood loss, he would have lived.
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But he's still annoying.
Well that's it then, lets kill off all the characters we find annoying in One Piece.
Anyone left after that? :P
Oda doesn't necessarily preach a forgive and forget mantra (No, I'm not talking about COO. :P) with villains, but it's interesting redemption is possible for them despite their past crimes. Croc's 'transformation' during the Marineford war would have surprised (and may have disappointed) many I thought.
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Do people think Crocodile wanted to help Luffy or that he just wanted to screw over the marines?
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@Lazy:
Do people think Crocodile likes Luffy or that he just wanted to screw over the marines?
He's gay for Luffy.
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He's gay for Luffy.
I could've probably have phrased it better. In fact, I will.
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Well that's it then, lets kill off all the characters we find annoying in One Piece.
Anyone left after that? :P
Lol you seem a bit offended that I want Wapol to die. Don't worry, my opinion won't make it happen.
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Lol you seem a bit offended that I want Wapol to die. Don't worry, my opinion won't make it happen.
I was been sarcastic don't worry. Clue is is in the smilie. :P
I only found Wapol mildly annoying tbh. He's deffo not the worst.
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Technically Whitebeard died from being shot, too. I think the point wasn't that he died from being shot, he just lost too much blood. He was shot a lot and to add to that caught by surprise.
Maybe I'm just being picky, but I don't see the issue here. Then again many characters have had worse and survived, that might be the real issue here. Who knows, maybe the anime adds some weight to it, flashbacks are usually better in the anime.…Well, TECHNICALLY Whitebeard was already dying from the start, you know.. illness. []
Plus, let us not forget:- the stab to the stomach
- half-blown face
- the other gunshots, cuts and etc.
top it off with illness.... you get a legitimate, plausible death right there.
no clear-cut cause..... well not really since he was sick from the beginning.What I'm saying is this.... Tiger's death is kinda like if Oda said:
"Whitebeard died because of the illness worsening and he refused to get any more of the medical treatments with IV injections."
He 'could have' lived, but he chose not to, and if WB really DID die like so.. it would be dissappointing as hell.
He died after showing us his best!!! Which made us at least feel at ease knowing how monstrous he was, "if".....Tiger's death was not like that, therefore ackwardly dissappointing. []
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@cooldud_21:
I shared your disappointment and it took me a lot of time to come around to the 'loss'. But,
- It has not been confirmed if the eye is lost or if he simply keeps it closed to look badass.
- Losing one eye does not make him Usui or the awesome blind swordsman from Ninja Scroll. That is, having one eye is better than having none. With this, he could arguably have the best of both worlds. Enhanced hearing and visual perception.
- It could be argued that he lost the eye early on in the timeskip and took the better part of two years to overcome that handicap. And at the intense levels he trains, I think he can make up for it well enough.
I just realised maybe luffy wound on his chest was caused by akainu during 'war of the best'