Shit just got real. OK this chapter is pretty predictable but now all the pieces are in place for the strawhats to come in and kick some major ass which is what we've been waiting for since forever.
Chapter 632: "I knew it" -Discussion
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Noah is the arc fishmen will use to get to land??
Again it said that Luffy will destory FI….and jimbe got captured 2 easy! -
Shirley is…Arlong's sister...
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@Sniper:
Shirley is…Arlong's sister...
Uh yeah. Oda once again WTF? Sincerely, the fandom.
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If Decken threw something half the size of FI, then it doesn't look like strength is involved in his powers. And if all he needs is the throwing motion, relative to his body/arm, he could theoretically throw a planet. :blink:
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I find it funny that when Oda actually tries to speed up the arc, he takes out exactly what we actually want to see which is the "fighting". So many unsatisfactory off panel fights. It's the best way to go but it's still kind of disappointing.
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He touched Shira with his left hand and Noah with his right, so maybe the right tracks the left?
Everything he touches with the right hand will follow after the target? But that wouldn't make sense since supposedly touched Hacchi, what if he throws Noah at Hacchi O_O
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Well now that we saw VDD fruit power and yet we don't know the limit it has and we are all "wow wtf just how much he can throw?" maybe this is a good opportunity for Oda to show us:
1)Caribou's swamp DF because IIRC he said that he has infinite "storage"
2)Shirahoshi summoning Sea Kings
3)Hody destroying it,but i don't really believe this he had his "big moment" with the water drop
4)someone from the MT deflect/destroy itPersonally i would love to see someone of the MT destroying it so we can see their new powerup, but i think that Oda will have either Shirahoshi doing it or probably Caribou because in this chapter we saw that VDD is quite strong and maybe this is good chance to see how strong Caribou is.
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He touched Shira with his left hand and Noah with his right, so maybe the right tracks the left?
Everything he touches with the right hand will follow after the target? But that wouldn't make sense since supposedly touched Hacchi, what if he throws Noah at Hacchi O_O
That would be come turn of events lolhe touched shira with his right hand
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No straw hats again. Am I the only one who felt that the cover was badly drawn ?
Kudos to all the ones who predicted Hodi killed the queen.
Dissapointed that the straw hats were not there but excited at the idea of them sweeping over 9000 fishmen !
It is cleaned to bits by the scanlators. In jump, 1/5 of the page is surrounded by advertisements.
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How is the 100,000 fishmen army a joke.
Why will it be a "epicfail".
I agree with the rest, but I have to think that you're only thinking in the now and forgetting how Oda has actually treated his characters over the series. At the end of every arc, almost all major players of arc get some screen time. Like with Water 7, Usopp was a "joke" at first, as he couldn't protect the money, but then look what he turned into.As a general rule of thumb, any time the bad guy assembles a thousand-plus army in One Piece, those people will be ripped through like wet toilet paper.
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What would have been so bad of Jinbei being beaten up by Super-Hody?
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Giving Shirley a bit more screentime is cool i think, but iam not sure why she has to be Arlongs sister.
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On Mr. 9 x Ms. Monday: I should have known that the two of them were still alive, but I wasn't expecting to see them in the coverstory, much less married with a kid. Still, good for them.
On the Princes getting captured: Expected, but I would have liked the three Princes, particularly Fukaboshi, to put up more of a fight… I had a 3v1 scenario in my head of Luffy, Jinbe, and Fukaboshi jointly taking on Hody (so drugged up as to be nigh unstoppable) as a final battle for the arc.
On Shirahoshi/Jinbe getting captured: I actually like this move by Oda... It delivers the two people Hody was really worried about right into his hands, making them appear helpless against the New Fishman Pirates without actually forcing a battle, thereby keeping the full extent of their strength a mystery. While Shirahoshi's power lies in her "Pokemon Master" abilities over Sea Kings make a better "threat of force" in my mind than an "application of force", Jinbe's abilities have been largely unexplored other than the blurb about Fishman Karate back when he and Luffy were dueling. And since I highly doubt that the two of them will remain in chains for the remaining duration of the arc, that means that Jinbe at least is still perfectly capable of having a decent fight at some point.
On Madam Shirley being Arlong's sister: Nice! I'm really liking the additional characterization that Arlong is getting through this arc... And I'm not entirely sure that Oda's not setting us up for his return.
On Hody assassinating Otohime: I love that Hody makes his big reveal only for Shirahoshi to say what everyone reading was thinking... :p Not really a surprise, given what we know about him.
On Decken "throwing" Noah: Well... THAT could cause some problems...
On no One Piece next week: NOOO!!! T_T Feel better, Oda!
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Cover page was nice.
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I find it funny that when Oda actually tries to speed up the arc, he takes out exactly what we actually want to see which is the "fighting". So many unsatisfactory off panel fights. It's the best way to go but it's still kind of disappointing.
He does that because he doesnt want to spoil the fights which would make later fights less interesting. It is lesson one in storytelling.
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What would have been so bad of Jinbei being beaten up by Super-Hody?
Because he has like 10-20 more years of experience in battle but put aside this,he is supposed to be one of the strongest characters in OPverse.Ok he can't win against Admirals/yonko etc etc but he can handle himself against most if not all the high tiers,so being beaten by a random at best mid tier punk because of some pills,for me it would be bad
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Because he has like 10-20 years more experience in battle but put aside this,he is supposed to be one of the strongest characters in OPverse.Ok he can't win against Admirals/shanks etc etc but he can handle himself against most if not all the high tiers,so being beaten by a random at best mid tier punk because of some pills,for me it would be bad
That's why Luffy beat Croc and Moria even pre timeskip and at lease Croc went against DoFla and Mihawk without taken damage and has attacked Akainu without fear as well… Both are Shichibukai as well^^
Seriously... Where was it ever said he is one of the strongest... because he blocked one punch of Akainu and crippled his hand, run away from Magellan or him fighting a rookie Ace?
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I'd say thats more of a Doskoi Panda brand clothing than Pandaman himself.
Oh, that's Pandaman right there, trust me.
Why did they translate Noah as Noir?
Noir is ノワール in Japanese. ノア is Noah from the Biblical tale.
Yeah, this bugged me last chapter already a lot. Especially since they actually had it written as "Ark Noah" when it was first introduced - why change that, especially when the reference is so blindingly obvious?!
I don't know what to make out of this chapter. I expected the princes to be defeated off screen so that didn't disappoint me, and it's nice of the people saying how first they destroyed the NFP but then got defeated after more ES pills…
BIG LOL at Hyozou simply sleeping after the little turmoil.
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! Damn, he's weirdly adorable. Seriously, one of my favourite characters from this arc.After the revelation of Arlong being Shirley's sister… I really wonder if he's going to show up soon. And, wth Jinbe, who did you get captured so easily?! That's just damn pathetic, I expected much, much more from him - that was lame storytelling right there, seriously.
And still no Strawhats?! Come on!…
Well, I wish for Oda to get better soon and all the best. Hope he's not seriously ill with something.
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@S.C.:
As a general rule of thumb, any time the bad guy assembles a thousand-plus army in One Piece, those people will be ripped through like wet toilet paper.
Rule of thumb in any piece of fiction. The more enemies there are the less dangerous they are.
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Odd, thought Mr. 9 would be dead. LOL
I don't like Hodi, but I really like Dekken, so him tossing something that is half the size of fishman island is epicness.
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That's why Luffy beat Croc and Moria even pre timeskip and at lease Croc went against DoFla and Mihawk without taken damage and has attacked Akainu without fear as well… Both are Shichibukai as well^^
Seriously... Where was it ever said he is one of the strongest... because he blocked one punch of Akainu and crippled his hand, run away from Magellan or him fighting a rookie Ace?
I think it's safe to assume that he is one of the strongest characters in OPverse,not in the leauge of the Admirals/Yonko but he is clearly VERY strong.
About the luffy croc/moria,you got a point but i think it's a bit different not only because we are talking about the main char but Luffy had a "reason" if you want which gave him the (will)power to fight against them in beat them.
On the other hand Hody's just an enraged fishman who wants to take down humans.Anyway i personaly would prefer IF they would fight that Jinbe would be able to defeat Hody or at worst to be on equal ground,but if Hody would be able to take him down i would feel dissapointed..
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suspense mode… get well oda-san.
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I think it's safe to assume that he is one of the strongest characters in OPverse,not in the leauge of the Admirals/Yonko but he is clearly VERY strong.
About the luffy croc/moria,you got a point but i think it's a bit different not only because we are talking about the main char but Luffy had a "reason" if you want which gave him the (will)power to fight against them in beat them.
On the other hand Hody's just an enraged fishman who wants to take down humans.Anyway i personaly would prefer IF they would fight that Jinbe would be able to defeat Hody or at worst to be on equal ground,but if Hody would be able to take him down i would feel dissapointed..
And your safe to assume is based on nothing. His powers wasn't potrayed above Croc's during the war after all. Wiper was very strong and stood no chance against Enel. Sanji and Zeff were very strong and still Luffy fought Don Krieg… and so on
Yeah Hody captured Zoro and Co, killed the mother of Shirahoshit and mentor of Jinbei, is treating the island of his new friends like shit and many more...
But yeah he has no reason to fight Hody like he had against Croc... Seriously...
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And your safe to assume is based on nothing. His powers wasn't potrayed above Croc's during the war after all. Wiper was very strong and stood no chance against Enel. Sanji and Zeff were very strong and still Luffy fought Don Krieg… and so on
Yeah Hody captured Zoro and Co, killed the mother of Shirahoshit and mentor of Jinbei, is treating the island of his new friends like shit and many more...
But yeah he has no reason to fight Hody like he had against Croc... Seriously...
I think that shadow said luffy had the willpower to defeat croc but hodi doesn't have the willpower to defeat jinbe. not luffy to defeat hody.
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But who the fuck said that SSJ Hodi is below Jinbei? We have no serious feats from him and Jinbei's feat during the war weren't more impressive than the feats of Croc
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Prety good chapter, even if Hodi is constantly contradicting his doctrine.
"Oh they killed ou queen, wait no she was trash, no wait I killed her !"
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Too bad we won't get a chapter next week but hey, it's for health.
Yeah, I think most knew already or guessed it was Hody…though somehow Shirahoshi knowing it was a bit of a surprise. (not as surprising as that Whiskey Peak intro...IT TOOK THAT LONG TO CONFIRM THE SURVIVAL OF MR. 9 AND MISS MONDAY!?)
Just know that Van Der Decken's gonna cause trouble for next time, though.
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But who the fuck said that SSJ Hodi is below Jinbei? We have no serious feats from him and Jinbei's feat during the war weren't more impressive than the feats of Croc
nobody, but there are people who would feel disappointed if hody defeat jinbe
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He does that because he doesnt want to spoil the fights which would make later fights less interesting. It is lesson one in storytelling.
He's in full control of the story so it's strange that he forced himself into a situation where he had to make so many fights off panel.
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Odd, thought Mr. 9 would be dead. LOL
I don't like Hodi, but I really like Dekken, so him tossing something that is half the size of fishman island is epicness.
It's also kind of bull shit. By the same logic, couldn't he just toss Fishman Island itself onto the surface?
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Found Pandaman!
And this, http://mangastream.com/read/one_piece/32463671/13, Panel 4.. ^_^
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What would have been so bad of Jinbei being beaten up by Super-Hody?
I think the main reason that Oda's keeping Jinbe out of the fighting for the moment is simply because he wants to set up a fight for Jinbe later on… Jinbe getting beat down here would give us a measure of his strength that, as of yet, Oda's been rather coyly avoiding giving out.
Jinbe getting beat down by Hody would give us the impression that he's weaker than Hody. If Oda's planning for a fight between the two later on (whether as the final battle with Hody or as a precursor to Luffy fighting him), it's better to leave Jinbe's power level and his range of techniques obscure.
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nobody, but there are people who would feel disappointed if hody defeat jinbe
Yeah but is it something new, when the person where the hometown or life is treated is beaten/can do nothing against the main villian and later saved by Luffy.
And like I said… Just because he was a Shichibukai doesn't make him automatic stronger than anyone else when you see that this guy are using pills to power themselves up
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Once again. Luffy will fight Jinbei... it would be like Wiper fighting Ener and Luffy eating popcorn and watching him -
I have to admit, Jimbei being captured like that is cheesy as hell.
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What's the point of Hody revealling he was the murderer of the queen? His main goal was spreading the hate against humans among the fishman but now it seems his only purpose was to become the new ruler.
I really don't know what to make out of all this.
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Ah, that makes more sense. Wonder how MS messed that up.
maybe with MS being MS…?
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Yeah I'm pretty fed up. Stopped enjoying this arc a while ago. Might take a month off.
Hodi has been so lame and I don't know why but it seems I can completely see through Oda trying to hype him up as a challenge to Luffy and at the same see that Hodi's in for some near death side effects.
Best part of this chap was Hodi harpooning Madame Shirley though and her being Arlong's sister.
I can see Luffy using that ship to destroy the island.
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And your safe to assume is based on nothing. His powers wasn't potrayed above Croc's during the war after all. Wiper was very strong and stood no chance against Enel. Sanji and Zeff were very strong and still Luffy fought Don Krieg… and so on
Yeah Hody captured Zoro and Co, killed the mother of Shirahoshit and mentor of Jinbei, is treating the island of his new friends like shit and many more...
But yeah he has no reason to fight Hody like he had against Croc... Seriously...
I believe the little skirmishes during the war aren't THAT important because it was CLEARLY to give us a glimpse of the "world's strongest people".Or do you really believe that Croc would have live more than 1 minute against Akainu if not for all the DC,minus jozu..
Wiper stood no chance just because of the gorogoro fruit,same for zoro.If Enel's DF was not a logia we can't say for sure the result of the battle.I think you didn't understand me,i never said Luffy has no reason to fight Hody,only about Jinbe that IF he ever fight with Hody that i wouldn't like to see Jinbe beaten by Hody,that's all.
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So OK… Who can beat Jinbei after all
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Hody crossed the line of no redemption, he's no longer a classic villain, he's a complete monster. I don't understand why Oda didn't just draw him with a twirly mustache.
Favorite part of the chapter: shooting Shirley
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It's like Skypiea all over again. Seems so funny to me. Just replace "slow" with "rushed".
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What's the point of Hody revealling he was the murderer of the queen? His main goal was spreading the hate against humans among the fishman but now it seems his only purpose was to become the new ruler.
He has no more need for more allies. Setting people against the humans was just part of gaining enough support to end up in a position where he can take control and ultimately kill all the humans and their sympathizers.
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But who the fuck said that SSJ Hodi is below Jinbei? We have no serious feats from him and Jinbei's feat during the war weren't more impressive than the feats of Croc
Storywise it happened to have some secret of the fight against hodi before the end fight.
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I'm so glad to see Mr. 9 and Ms. Monday alive. It's been a WHILE and we never saw their fate after the bombing from Mr. 5. Guess we can see what the two of them have been doing for 2 years. Brilliant.
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Fuck you Hody I don't want to hear how your plan started. Let's just get to the action.
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If you actually thought that you'd see the Princes take on the officers, you obviously haven't read this manga before. If they were all taken out, who would the SHs have left to fight?
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It's like Skypiea all over again. Seems so funny to me. Just replace "slow" with "rushed".
Skypiea was a lot better than this. Roland's flashback was great, and Enel kicking everyone assess was a lot of fun.
Storywise was bland, but I prefer a light story over a poorly telled one (which is sadly the case in this arc)
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So OK… Who can beat Jinbei after all
Many characters as i said in my previous post like the Admirals/Yonko but i can't really see Hody on the same league as these guys.
Anyway everyone has his own opinion,all i was saying is that i,personaly,would prefer them to be somehow equal at best,but i wouldn't like to see Hody overpowering Jinbe with some pills that's all!