They wouldn't believe that. They'd saw it's fabrication and that it makes no sense.
Felch Discussion Part 4
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Kiba and squad 4.
Aim of the fullbringers.
0 espada.
Ichigo still now knowing what's going on despite his father actually promising him to tell him.
Where is Kon?
Where were the fullbringers during the Aizen invasion?
That whole hell-SS-living world thing also is one huge fuckup.
Gin attacking and nearly killing that annoying loli vizard. Looking back, that made no sense.
Aizen switching places with Hinamori.
Origin of fullbring abilities.
The whole fullbring bullshit itself. It is just inconsistent as hell. -
…They were standing in water? Okay, it's one thing to go minimulist (and that's being pretty damn generous) with your backgrounds and panel layout because you're trying to be artsy, it's another thing entirely when doing so makes it so that the reader can't tell what is supposed to be going on!
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Good god guys.
I was told that it doesn't matter how many conflicting explanations were given for Chad's power as long as one can "understand" his powers.
http://www.narutoforums.com/showpost.php?p=37948549&postcount=75
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@No:
Good god guys.
I was told that it doesn't matter how many conflicting explanations were given for Chad's power as long as one can "understand" his powers.
http://www.narutoforums.com/showpost.php?p=37948549&postcount=75
And I understand what it means to be alive, but that doesn't change the fact that there are hundreds of conflicting different ideas behind my creation and existence. Does that also mean I have comprehension issues?
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Also the person said I failed at english and I should try reading the series like a book…...
which means I should remember what was written previously.
But aparently noticing conflicting information about the same thing being presented is aparently unecessary.
I eagerly await his reponse. My next argument will be Isshin's broken promise, and Aizen's nonsense defeat and his nonsense "let's go kill some random people who would stil die if I made the key anyway!" side quest.
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@No:
Good god guys.
I was told that it doesn't matter how many conflicting explanations were given for Chad's power as long as one can "understand" his powers.
http://www.narutoforums.com/showpost.php?p=37948549&postcount=75
You do know it's considered retardation if your signature has big fuckin' pink letters telling the world you're the best? If so, we are now laughing from someone who's disabled.
But still… Kubo, you genius. Kubo is the king of trolls, m00t of 4chan and meme master in one body. And he still acomplishes to teleport behind our backs.
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@No:
Also the person said I failed at english and I should try reading the series like a book…...
which means I should remember what was written previously.
But aparently noticing conflicting information about the same thing being presented is aparently unecessary.
I eagerly await his reponse. My next argument will be Isshin's broken promise, and Aizen's nonsense defeat and his nonsense "let's go kill some random people who would stil die if I made the key anyway!" side quest.
Are the people at NF also telling you that butterflaizen was an seraph?
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Btw you're from Poland ? Hi neighbour :P
Oh and no reponse yet guys. I wonder why :ninja:
Oh btw: I do not support anyone going there and trolling. Okay ?
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Are the people at NF also telling you that butterflaizen was an seraph?
No, just that Bleach has no plot holes and that Kubo started to plan his series.
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Don't forget Aizens monitoring/planning of Ichigos life. All the Magic Ball wish granting stuff like Rukia forgetting how to fight piss weak hollows.
And his unrevealed Bankai.
And his unrevealed motivation for doing all he did (besides "He was too strong and wanted to be weak, secretly!!!")
Nells allegiance, and being gone for "years".
Gin being a good guy.
Ulq and Orihimes Romance
Two hands.
Agglutinating zanpakuto nth dimension bpskdgnldhglf
The bodies Mayuri found being pointless
The espada being pointless
Ichigo being the only one not weak to Aizens shikai…........pointless.
Ichigo sacrificing his powers for no reason.
And so on, and so forth.I admire your patience No Maam, it's a lonesome battle out there at NF
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Two hands…..oh Kenpachi. Could you remind us about all the technical info behind why that was dumb again ? Kubo constantly changes how his powers work so I sort of forget.
Thanks Daz :D
Well I have Edward Newgate on my side, but he mostly just points minor little snarky comments in the library. But he's a good poster.
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The gist of the Kenpachi thing is
Kenpachi without eyepatch <ichigo with="" zangetsu="" power="" boost<bankai="" ichigo<grimmjow<vaizard="" ichigo="" optimized="" mask="" control="Nnoitra<" kenpachi….with="" two="" hands!<br="">And if anyone dares bring up "lol Ichigos power fluctuates" Just point out that that means Ichigo, despite all his hundreds of chapters of training and powerups in the arrancar arc, had "fluctuated" to be somehow weaker than halfway through the SS arc.
Yes, shikai Ichigo being stronger than Bankai Vaizard Ichigo through the power of fluctuation! Makes perfect sense!</ichigo>
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The guy pussied out aparently.
But others will follow.
This is a good time to discus our project idea in public.
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You go ahead, I need to catch some Z's. My usual chapter rant may get delayed until saturday; this weeks' got me riled up something fierce, and I need time to properly express how much jackies comments on the spinning swastika infuriate me.
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I thought it was dumb but it actualy infuriates you ?
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Oh and now aparently looking for "sense" in a fantasy story is aparently dumb
http://www.narutoforums.com/showpost.php?p=37949971&postcount=84
its a fantasy shonene manga.
your trying to search something that make sense out of magicals character in a comic book for kids/teens with people that fly in the air and shooting laser beams out of their fingers with super power with living sword that fight ghost monster that humans cant see.what do you expect ? to be realistic ?
man some peoplehttp://www.narutoforums.com/showpost.php?p=37950429&postcount=86
And now aparenlty Chad's already existing hollow given powers were awakened by Ichigo's reiatsu and advanced by the hougyoukou.
Yeah, you keep telling yourself that. Especialy when neither was necessary for all other fullbringers we have so far seen.
I love how people constantly say "Oh Kubo totaly, absolutely planned this out, it's such a smart refference!" and when you point them to what the man himself said about planning they go "LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU!!!!" or say "Well he IS planning now". Seven years in.
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Oh btw guys, do I remember correctly that Kubo said he didn't have a definite plan on whether Ichigo would keep his powers or not ?
His incredibly stupid remarks and attitudes just keep piling up so I'm not that sure.
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Tell the person to speak English first before trying to argue.
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^ This
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Which one ?
Also I kinda need an answer to that question, I need to respond to the typical bleach fan argument "just cause he doesn't have every aspect of the story planned out doesn't mean he didn't plan any of the characterisation and powers".
Also there is a longer post that I have yet to examine, but I notice it mentions Ichigo's character and powers ae an "enigma". Well he got that right.
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reads trolling
Look, I'm all for loving stuff, but it's infuriating to see people make up shit to cover their tracks. I have to question their intelligence. No one can be that blind.
Say that any good writer has at least an outline. And reads his past material as to not create inconsistencies. Kubo doesn't even use a fucking outline.
I would bring up the brilliance that is One Piece, and how Oda has at least a general outline of where he wants to go (the current flashback proves this), but something tells me that would not be the best course of action.
I would also like to add that that is the sorriest excuse for a goatee I have ever seen. All I see is shadow on his lip and a miniscule amount of hair on the bottom of his chin.
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These people said backgrounds in an emotional scene can distract from the characters.
I think they'd just call me an optard, because never mind the fact I do read this and many other series, I'm a blind fanboy if I critisize the marvel that is Bleach.
Oh and
http://www.narutoforums.com/showpost.php?p=37950618&postcount=89
Gonna try to pull a Cross or Daz on this one.
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Exactly. That's what I meant when I said that would be a bad idea.
Hell, even Dragon Ball (Z part) has backgrounds. And Yu-Gi-Oh! If any series could get away with no backgrounds, it would be the Duelist section of Yu-Gi-Oh!
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Oh and people aparently think Ichigo has "surpassed Yamamoto in less then a year".
No. Looking aside the fact the man has 2000 years of battle experience, his regular bankai, which he has used more then once in the series, is capable to level cities.
Ichigo's is a generic slash.
And the attack he used to defeat Aizen not only made him lose his powers but it didn't even defeat Aizen !
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The ending of Decide felt so… sudden, so rushed, so anticlimactic. Although, to be fair, I was not a big fan of:
Shanks: "llolol im shanks end the war no lololol"
Sengoku: "lololololololo k"Also felt anticlimactic.
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At least there that sort of made sense.
Unlike "he spent several hundred years planning to lose because he wants to be weak and masterminded several people's whole lives to do so".
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@The:
The ending of Decide felt so… sudden, so rushed, so anticlimactic. Although, to be fair, I was not a big fan of:
Shanks: "llolol im shanks end the war no lololol"
Sengoku: "lololololololo k"Yeah… cuz it's not like they made a big deal about having the ENTIRE NAVY and the goddamn Admirals PLUS the Shichibukai present for ONE Yonkou...
So what's the arrival of a SECOND Yonkou with a fresh crew?
lolololol indeed
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So maybe we can end this thread with a song before post #10000? And add a rating system like Naruto threads do?
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Bleach does deserve ridicule like that.
The problem is trying to figure out what was "bad" and what was "terrible" within the confines of mediocrity that is Bleach.
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The problem is trying to figure out what was "bad" and what was "terrible" within the confines of mediocrity that is Bleach.
That's like trying to separate turds in an outhouse.
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Exactly.
Whoever is the brave soul has my blessing…
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Well, I can think of one rating.
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Kenpachi Bankai would be GDLK rating (even if it's confined to Fan Fics)
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Yeah… cuz it's not like they made a big deal about having the ENTIRE NAVY and the goddamn Admirals PLUS the Shichibukai present for ONE Yonkou...
So what's the arrival of a SECOND Yonkou with a fresh crew?
lolololol indeed
I'm aware of that. I just felt it was really sudden and kind of a cop out.
P.S. I am also aware of the fact that Shanks was on his way. I was expecting him to show up.
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Just making sure, the way you worded it made it sound like it was a random occurence that had should've had no impact on the story.
I would call it a cop out too, but did you REALLY want a second part to that war consisting of the Red Hair Pirates Vs. Marine HQ?
Cuz that would've been an exercise in patience right there.
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Well, I can think of one rating.
Kenpachi Gold - Chapters with Kenpachi.sadly, not even. He was been reduced to shit along with everything else. Was his little fight with yammy and byakuya that good? not really. and then his return after off-paneling yammy was just pissy as piss. So sadly, he cannot make a chapter great.
if we wanted a ranking system, it would have three levels: horrible, bad, and tolerable. because bleach does not get better than that.
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Aww come on. It's not Kenpachi's fault that Kubo off-screens shit like the plague. To me he's still a badass. I'd rather have him be the main character than that pussy Ichigo.
and if Kenpachi is gold, can we rank Hitsugaya as transparent or something? I don't know how people feel about him, but I think Hitsugaya is the Marco of Bleach. I mean wow, he ever done shit? Hey look at me I'm awesome. oh no wait actually my powers are completely useless and whenever there's a crisis I'm just standing around not helping.
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I almost sprung to defend Hitsugaya, then I realized I hate his ass.
Marco… is a Phoenix?
I got nothing...
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If Bleach ever comes out with a "great" chapter.
People will shit their pants.
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I predict in the first page of the next chapter absolutely every plot hole and wall banger in the entire series will be explained and fixed to everyone's satisfaction. Followed by eighteen pages of shots of walls and characters' rad sneakers.
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Okay this has absolutely nothing to do with what we were just talking about, but I found this on deviantart and it reminded me of the McBleach conversation from awhile back that got deleted:
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! I lol'd
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Just making sure, the way you worded it made it sound like it was a random occurence that had should've had no impact on the story.
I would call it a cop out too, but did you REALLY want a second part to that war consisting of the Red Hair Pirates Vs. Marine HQ?
Cuz that would've been an exercise in patience right there.
No. I was tired of the war. I was expecting Blackbeard to take down Sengoku, which may have given the same effect (though Akainu would have become an even bigger problem). There really was no good way for it to end: either drag it on or end it abruptly. An extra month could have been acceptable, but that would be pushing it.
Alright, I'm going to stop now. I'm extremely offtopic.
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Either I'm reading wrong, or you fellas did not mention the Yammy plothole. If 0-9 surprise can be turned into "What a twist!" you can't ignore unleash(actually double unleash!) of said strongest espada in a place that would crumble if №3 decides to warm-up his joints. I wonder what will fanatics say on that one.
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I think we tried to make a rating's system but the only color we could come up with was gray.
I think we can do this! The scale can be: white emptiness, speed lines, wall, blocky generic buildings, and actual effort.
I give this last chapter 'speed lines', because the water really mattered and Chad actually followed through with trying to find out what happened to Orihime. That last one was practically a plot twist in the manga of "Guys…" and "No need to reveal your bankai against the #1 espada".
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@Tokoro:
The only bit of good news is the latest crap has been out of the top five for a while. But Bleachtards are a fickle-bunch: the moment we get Rukia or Shrimpo, it's going to rival OP and Naruto again.
Edit: just to add more fuel to the fire:
http://narutoforums.com/showthread.php?t=715479
Apparantly he doesn't care what people thinks and his "ten year plan" is for the most part screwed and he's trying to get faster in telling his story.
(Sees all the blank pages and the continuing storyboarding)
Yeah…
Hm… Not trying to defend NF, but it seems more like they admire Kubo for doing what he loves without faltering rather than just for his "AWESOME WRITING".
But one girl called the guy who called Kubo's manga shit a "hater", so I'm not 100%.
Either way, This chapter could've been some nice development for Ichigo with the whole "fighting for survival" thing.... then Kubo shit all over it.
If Kubo were smart, he would keep Ichigo this way, and then let the Shinigami keep their DBZ battles, while Ichigo goes HxH. But.... That would be too entertaining. >:/
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Chances are that "guy" is me :ninja:
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@No:
Chances are that "guy" is me :ninja:
Oh, my bad. Sorry to hear you go on NF. :sad:
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NF is just like SS, full of deceived souls living in a shit life without any changes, but they don't care about that and even like the opressing absolutist monarchy of Troll King Kubo over them.
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Would Hitsugaya have to even do anything to get Bleach back into the top 5? Or will we get a spoiler that's just "HITSUGAYA" so everyone who loves him can go "I can't wait to see him so I can draw fanart!"
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Would Hitsugaya have to even do anything to get Bleach back into the top 5? Or will we get a spoiler that's just "HITSUGAYA" so everyone who loves him can go "I can't wait to see him so I can draw fanart!"
He just did something in the latest Anime episode, though it was to kill a regular Hollow… hardly dramatic.
On another note, the episode's ending stated that Bleach is starting a new series next episode, so it's not cancelled, apparently. Anyone wanna guess guess the title of the Time Skip Anime? I'll go with:
Fullbring: Kubo attempts to retcon Chad's power and gives Ichigo a new one, the series.
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Oh so the fillers feature the shota ?
So, no reason to watch them then ?
