9.0 earthquake hits Japan
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Ahh, that's super super good news.
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some choice quotes
“You don’t want to have that containment pressurized. When the pressure starts building up, the emergency procedure is to start venting They’ve essentially entered a beat the clock game. As long as there is no fuel damage, there will be radioactivity, but it will be very low.”
It's simply a matter of the lesser evil, radiation being leaked into the region or a full blown meltdown catastrophe
Radiation spread by the venting won’t be at a level dangerous to health
Pretty dumb statement.
Temperatures in the control room rose to higher than 100 Celsius (212 Fahrenheit)
My God…
The plant’s operators need to connect to the electricity grid, fix emergency diesel generators or bring in more batteries to power a backup system that pumps the water needed to cool the reactor
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Not sure if it's been posted or not, but Oda's doing fine:
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Yes. We know already. It's in the damn thread title.
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I don't give a damn about One Piece, anime, manga or any of that shit right now. I'm glad to hear Oda and Greg are safe and sound, because I just plain like the guys. I feel for the people of Japan though. When I first read about this, while it still sounded severe, it made it seem like the death toll was low. 24 hours later, I'm hearing many people are confirmed dead or missing… and I'm seeing all the videos and images...
To quote the wife of a southern nuclear plant worker, who was quoting her husband during the earthquakes and tsunamis, "It really makes you feel how small we really are on this Earth when something so powerful surrounds you and takes everything with it into the ocean." It's so true. We human beings act like we're in control, but it's scary to see how fragile and helpless we are against mother nature.
My prayers go out to everyone affected by this.
It's also scary that the aftershock earthquakes are in themselves extremely dangerous categories of their own. Another 6.4ish one hit while I was watching CNN about an hour and a half ago.
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When I first read about this, while it still sounded severe, it made it seem like the death toll was low. 24 hours later, I'm hearing many people are confirmed dead or missing… and I'm seeing all the videos and images...
It was the same when the 04 Christmas tsunami devastated Indonesia, Thailand and etc. The numbers were small, 30 here, 20 there…but they add up. The people missing, disease, everything. In all of those pictures we've seen of houses being dragged away there is probably a family being crushed or drowned or choked by gas leaks/explosions. These are just the numbers that can be accounted for in the mass chaos 24hrs after the fact, last I heard some 20,000 people were missing. And it's not like a small area was affected, Japan has a 1500 mile coastline. There simply aren't enough services, provisions and aid to go around, and on top of that the infrastructure has been decimated too. Folks will be stranded for a while.
Now imagine that devastation, but on a rural 3rd world country like Pakistan, where those floods took place. People are STILL dying there 6 months after, there was a big initial international reaction but it's all died out. The one thing Japan has going for it is organisation.
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Maybe someone with a better understanding of earthquakes or Japan, or simply someone with a better brain than me can answer a question. The area I live in is known for getting rocked by this monster shake every 150 years. We're overdue for it by a bit, and I was wondering if scientifically speaking the quake that just occurred could have any influence over it. Sorry if that sounds stupid, but just something that's been discussed around here.
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@Steven:
Maybe someone with a better understanding of earthquakes or Japan, or simply someone with a better brain than me can answer a question. The area I live in is known for getting rocked by this monster shake every 150 years. We're overdue for it by a bit, and I was wondering if scientifically speaking the quake that just occurred could have any influence over it. Sorry if that sounds stupid, but just something that's been discussed around here.
What is an earthquake? The build up of tectonic pressure and force that is released in an instant, so of course it could. The fact that it hasn't occurred within the immediate period that this 8 point whatever one did makes me think it's unlikely though, as it would have been triggered almost instantly. Are aftershocks still being felt across Japan?
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What is an earthquake? The build up of tectonic pressure and force that is released in an instant, so of course it could. The fact that it hasn't occurred within the immediate period that this 8 point whatever one did makes me think it's unlikely though, as it would have been triggered almost instantly. Are aftershocks still being felt across Japan?
Thanks, I just wanted some insight since it's a scary thought. I have friends on my facebook feed saying they are feeling light shakes, while one news feed said there was a 5 an hour ago, although I haven't heard anything about that elsewhere.
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It was the same when the 04 Christmas tsunami devastated Indonesia, Thailand and etc. The numbers were small, 30 here, 20 there…but they add up. The people missing, disease, everything. In all of those pictures we've seen of houses being dragged away there is probably a family being crushed or drowned or choked by gas leaks/explosions. These are just the numbers that can be accounted for in the mass chaos 24hrs after the fact, last I heard some 20,000 people were missing. And it's not like a small area was affected, Japan has a 1500 mile coastline. There simply aren't enough services, provisions and aid to go around, and on top of that the infrastructure has been decimated too. Folks will be stranded for a while.
Now imagine that devastation, but on a rural 3rd world country like Pakistan, where those floods took place. People are STILL dying there 6 months after, there was a big initial international reaction but it's all died out. The one thing Japan has going for it is organisation.
God… You try not to think of it like that while watching the videos and images, but you're exactly right. Not just the houses either. All the cars, people walking outside... It's too tragic for words. I heard the tsunamis went about 6 miles inland, so many people were not expecting to be hit and were not prepared.
The scariest thing is that so many deaths have been confirmed now, and the large inner city area that was hit has been completely cut off from communication. That area alone could double the death toll.
As for the previous areas were hit, I honestly didn't pay as much attention to the coverage as I should have. Seeing these videos now, I can only imagine how much worse a third world country had it during all this. If Japanese buildings fortified to handle most large earthquakes were swept away like ants in a rain storm, I can't even fathom what happened to their buildings.
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God… You try not to think of it like that while watching the videos and images, but you're exactly right. Not just the houses either. All the cars, people walking outside... It's too tragic for words. I heard the tsunamis went about 6 miles inland, so many people were not expecting to be hit and were not prepared.
The scariest thing is that so many deaths have been confirmed now, and the large inner city area that was hit has been completely cut off from communication. That area alone could double the death toll.
As for the previous areas were hit, I honestly didn't pay as much attention to the coverage as I should have. Seeing these videos now, I can only imagine how much worse a third world country had it during all this. If Japanese buildings fortified to handle most large earthquakes were swept away like ants in a rain storm, I can't even fathom what happened to their buildings.
Well, Aceh (and the rest of Sumatra actually), dont have that much tall buildings n all. So although it got swept away easily, its relatively easier to rebuild and it wont be as dangerous as, say if it happens right here in Jakarta, we got highrise n all. And i'm not sure the majority of em can withstand such quakes. U've seen the vids about the buildings in Japan kinda rocked idly to the quakes, well in Jakarta, I have a feeling they'll just collapse and deathtolls from that alone could at least be in hundreds
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Well, Aceh (and the rest of Sumatra actually), dont have that much tall buildings n all. So although it got swept away easily, its relatively easier to rebuild and it wont be as dangerous as, say if it happens right here in Jakarta, we got highrise n all. And i'm not sure the majority of em can withstand such quakes. U've seen the vids about the buildings in Japan kinda rocked idly to the quakes, well in Jakarta, I have a feeling they'll just collapse and deathtolls from that alone could at least be in hundreds
I could imagine.
It's ironic when you think about it. Man builds all these nice looking things that serve our every needs, only to have them squash us in natural disasters.
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@JERK:
Um, yeah actually Taiwan does. It's a fully developed country like Japan.
True – (some might say "overdeveloped" due to their high population density) -- but for Taiwan, I was thinking more in terms of building with sophisticated earthquake-resistant materials and stuff.
To be honest, I don't really know all that much about Taiwan, though I have several friends from there, so they could very well have those sorts of building codes in place already.
EDIT: CCC -- glad to hear that sister and baby are ok!
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703 people have been confirmed killed.
AFP reports that Japan TV footage shows smoke billowing from Fukushima No.1 nuclear plant (due to an explosion) and that radioactivity there is 20 times normal level.
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Update from www.abc.net.au/news
This was posted on ABC Journalist Mark Willacy's twitter:
@markwillacy Japanese TV showing smoke coming out of nuclear plant 1. Explosion heard
Watching footage on TV right now, scary stuff.
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The explosion at the Fukushima facility:
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703 people have been confirmed killed.
AFP reports that Japan TV footage shows smoke billowing from Fukushima No.1 nuclear plant (due to an explosion) and that radioactivity there is 20 times normal level.
With 100 million people living in such a small island… I was expecting like a few thousands... Looks that japan was well prepared.
Also, oh god i hope that shit doesn't explode... that would be a Huge tragedy... and unlike the tsunami japan won't be able to save much people arround it...
Chernobyl and others would fade in comparasion if something like that blow up. It's not about size, it's because there is millions of people close.PD: At least oda is okay.... for now
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Anyone have that ANN link, I've realised I've heard nothing about Hiro or Shimabukuro.
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@Battle:
The explosion at the Fukushima facility:
Goddamn. On top of everything else, this happens.
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@Battle:
The explosion at the Fukushima facility:
According to Wall Street Journal article, the #1 plant is the smallest of the reactors. Still, that's cold comfort in light of the explosion seen above.
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Oh just noticed.
I'm realy kinda worried.
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They say the explosion may have been hydrogen used to cool Fukushima plant.
Fukushima prefecture says Tepco's no.1 reactor ceiling has collapsed, 4 people taken to hospital.
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I just heard the hydrogen thing myself. NHK says one hour of exposure near the plant is equivalent to a years' worth of natural exposure. Press conference in 25 minutes.
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holy shite that sounds terrible … I so hope they can somehow get that under control. o_o
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@Steven:
I just heard the hydrogen thing myself. NHK says one hour of exposure near the plant is equivalent to a years' worth of natural exposure. Press conference in 25 minutes.
Good thing they evacuated those areas earlier today.
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Forgive my ignorance, but what does exposure to hydrogen do exactly ?
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I don't think this resource has been mentioned yet, so …
"Those trying to contact or locate U.S. citizens living or traveling in Japan can telephone the U.S. Department of State, Office of Overseas Citizens Services, at 1-888-407-4747 or (202) 647-5225"
(from a Wall Street Journal article).
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703555404576195070673775888.html?mod=WSJ_hp_LEFTTopStories -
Good thing they evacuated those areas earlier today.
Keep us posted about updates if/when you can, Steven.That doesn't mean much as the atmosphere will spread it anyway, Chernobyl affected the UK, and that incident happened all the way over in Ukraine in eastern Europe. Of course this isn't of the same scale but it will occur nonetheles.s
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@No:
Forgive my ignorance, but what does exposure to hydrogen do exactly ?
I think its flamable so it is quite dangerous when mixed with air.
And I'll just quote this one from a site to help you out
@http://www.lenntech.com/periodic/elements/h.htm#ixzz1GNDo0SsB:
High concentrations of this gas can cause an oxygen-deficient environment. Individuals breathing such an atmosphere may experience symptoms which include headaches, ringing in ears, dizziness, drowsiness, unconsciousness, nausea, vomiting and depression of all the senses. The skin of a victim may have a blue color. Under some circumstances, death may occur. Hydrogen is not expected to cause mutagenicity, embryotoxicity, teratogenicity or reproductive toxicity. Pre-existing respiratory conditions may be aggravated by overexposure to hydrogen.
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@No:
Anyone have that ANN link, I've realised I've heard nothing about Hiro or Shimabukuro.
Damn, I hope Hiro is okay. So far we know Oda, Kubo and Kishimoto are safe. And for any other Yu-Gi-Oh! fans, Takahashi is safe. Many well-known seiyuus are reported safe as well.
And this nuclear leakage threat is only adding to the stress of this situation for those present. It's like a gigantic domino effect. Again, the irony of the things we invent that backfire on us.
EDIT: What's nuts is people in Japan are still surfing and on the beach the day after a goddamn 30 foot tsunami.
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That doesn't mean much as the atmosphere will spread it anyway, Chernobyl affected the UK, and that incident happened all the way over in Ukraine in eastern Europe. Of course this isn't of the same scale but it will occur nonetheles.s
Yes, of course, but the further out it spreads the less intense it gets.
(I'm old enough to remember Three Mile Island).
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obviously people were told to not drink tap water now and to seal all windows and stay inside .. at least that's what a german reporter said.
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What's nuts is people in Japan are still surfing and on the beach the day after a goddamn 30 foot tsunami.
What .
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Mother nature is being pretty ruthless in the last month or so first the queensland floods along with cyclone yasi, then christchurch earthquake now the 5th largest earthquake in the history in japan.
I can't begin to fathom how the people who just went through the horrifying disasters recently will feel what they are witnessing right now.
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My friend told me some people are thinking to go to the south side due to the supposed meltdown. But it is still unclear what the real situation is, just some bits and speculations of what could have happened. I'm hoping there will be no disaster.
Otherwise our media told us that Japans news disabled the wind data on weather news.
My prayers go to the ones, who still couldn't manage to contact their loved ones.
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@Mr.333:
What .
It's true. I heard it from CNN as their reporters have been observing. It's true stupidity.
Actually, I made a typo. I think that was referring to other areas like California and Chile and Hawaii that are also at risk. Obviously no one in Japan will be surfing now.
@Kaizoku-O:
Mother nature is being pretty ruthless in the last month or so first the queensland floods along with cyclone yasi, then christchurch earthquake now the 5th largest earthquake in the history in japan.
I can't begin to fathom how the people who just went through the horrifying disasters recently will feel what they are witnessing right now.
You have the info a bit mixed up.
It's Japan's largest ever recorded earthquake. And it's the fifth largest earthquake ever recorded in the entire world. Which makes me wonder what the other four higher ones were and where they happened…
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1. Chile 1960 9.5 Kanamori,
2. Prince William Sound, Alaska 1964 9.2 Kanamori,
3. Off the West Coast of Northern Sumatra 2004 9.1
4. Kamchatka 1952 9,0 Kanamori,人事を尽くして天命を待つ
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1. Chile 1960 05 22 9.5 -38.29 -73.05 Kanamori, 1977
2. Prince William Sound, Alaska 1964 03 28 9.2 61.02 -147.65 Kanamori, 1977
3. Off the West Coast of Northern Sumatra 2004 12 26 9.1 3.30 95.78 Park et al., 2005
4. Kamchatka 1952 11 04 9.0 52.76 160.06 Kanamori, 1977What's interesting is that these all happened roughly within a 20-year span of time.
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Well you have to consider the technology involved in measuring them.
Now days perhaps they would all get a different number and if you look at the epicenters none of them was in nearly as populated area as Sendai.
If 9,0 would happen in some other country other than Japan with as dense population but lacking the technology and safety measures they have.
I think 1,000,000+ casulties is not exagerating
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Well you have to consider the technology involved in measuring them.
Now days perhaps they would all get a different number and if you look at the epicenters none of them was in nearly as populated area as Sendai.
If 9,0 would happen in some other country other than Japan with as dense population but lacking the technology and safety measures they have.
I think 1,000,000+ casulties is not exagerating
That's what happened in heiti last year. The measurement was 7.0 but the death toll was more than 300 or 400 thousand.
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Now dumbfuckers are "killing" Satoshi Tajiri and Yuko Shimizu.
Thank you internet for giving me a reason to hate you everyday.
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Damn, I hope Hiro is okay. So far we know Oda, Kubo and Kishimoto are safe. And for any other Yu-Gi-Oh! fans, Takahashi is safe. Many well-known seiyuus are reported safe as well.
And this nuclear leakage threat is only adding to the stress of this situation for those present. It's like a gigantic domino effect. Again, the irony of the things we invent that backfire on us.
EDIT: What's nuts is people in Japan are still surfing and on the beach the day after a goddamn 30 foot tsunami.
Kubo has been listed on the site for quite some time too.
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What the hell is Fukushima having a reactor meltdown? This could lead to tragedy greater than impact of initial earthquake and tsunami.
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They said it was possibly an explotion of the hydrogen they use to cool it off.
Not sure if the two are conected directly.
Oh and just checked MS, all their guys in Japan are accounted for it seems.
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update from http://www.abc.net.au/news/
Hourly radiation at Japan nuclear plant matches allowable annual dose, says Kyodo.
Japan's Meteorological Agency says Fukushima prefecture (which is where the nuclear plant explosion happened) is at high risk of another major tsunami.
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Evacuation radius at Fukushima nuclear plant has been increased to 20 km.
TEPCO says to hold presser at 10:30 GMT
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shit, I just read the story that a nuke plant exploded
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@No:
They said it was possibly an explotion of the hydrogen they use to cool it off.
Media here said that if it actually was a hydrogen explosion, a reactor meltdown would be almost inevitable. ;/
I see the radius has been increased.
What's that about another tsunami? Another quake?
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