@'ko:
why can't you accept in naruto is the same?
Because Naruto isn't a manga about weird swords.
Naruto Thread IV
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I was really interested when the seven swordsmen were mention for the first time. But now they're just zombies. Kishi wasted potentially interesting characters.
Same for me. Now it's just like he quickly put all the ideas he had and didn't use before wrapping up the manga: 7 swordsmen, other jinchuriki and bijuu,… and even other countries.
Also, typical ridiculous overhype from Kishi with Suigetsu's brother... and it works on his fans. :getlost:
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It's not a manga about ninjas, either.
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It's not a manga about ninjas, either.
I agree. Ninja's are supossed to be silent and sneaky assassin's, but Naruto ninjas are loud and just like normal shounen figters. Expect for the Anbu, but they're all fodder.
What Kishi did with ninjas is what Stefanie Meyer did with vampires…
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At least One Piece played around with the idea of what it means to be a pirate.
In Naruto, subtlety is optional.
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Because Naruto isn't a manga about weird swords.
but there have been strange swords and unconventional weapons before. i just don't get why you are so surprised now, after 400+ chapters
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Because the group using them is the 7 swordsmen of the mist. If a new group called the Nunchaku Quintuplets showed up and two of them used swords on chains, you'd call foul too.
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You know, though this is probably in vain, I'll be the one to point out that "real" ninjas (historic ones) were feudal serfs that used whatever the hell they could for armor and weapons… they used garden hoes, sickles, metal decorations on their homes... whatever they could find. That said, this has nothing to do with Naruto, and a swordsman using a hammer and an axe is kind of silly.
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The 10 Swords of Ruronin Kenshin weren't
One used a spear, one a schyte and a wrecking ball, Iwango and Anji didn't even use weapons (except Anji's dumb knife), 3 were just support, and the flying one's main weapon were the bombs.
In the end just Shishio, Non-Emo boy, broom head and the giant used swords.
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I think you guys are making to big of a deal about this, they just tried to make them unique, I get it an axe and a hammer aren't swords but it's really not that big of a deal, swords was just a term to generalize the bladed weapons they use, if were gonna complain about something how about something more constructive like the art sucks this chapter ort why they keep using the same clans but not the people we know from them (k11 and their parents)
there's plenty of other things to complain about instead of swords not being swords, I'd rather he call them seven swordsmen of the mist then seven weapon users of the mist the majority of which use swords….. it sounds a lot better, Now come on give me something to laugh about, whoever pointed out that one extremely terrible panel was on a role there, how about comparing the haku sacrifice scenes
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@The:
Because the group using them is the 7 swordsmen of the mist. If a new group called the Nunchaku Quintuplets showed up and two of them used swords on chains, you'd call foul too.
Sword-chucks are both sword and nunchaku.
But I get your argument. I'll point out that it is very ninja-like to hype onself as a "swordsman" then when assassins come expecting a swordmaster, they're up against something completely unconventional and die pretty pitifully.
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The 10 Swords of Ruronin Kenshin weren't
One used a spear, one a schyte and a wrecking ball, Iwango and Anji didn't even use weapons (except Anji's dumb knife), 3 were just support, and the flying one's main weapon were the bombs.
In the end just Shishio, Non-Emo boy, broom head and the giant used swords.
Yeah, but unlike Watsuki, Kishimoto hyped the part of all the Swordsmen of the Mist have powerful swords and things like that, even Suigetsu names the hammer and axe a sword. Watsuki only said the name of the group was ''10 swords'', he didn't hyped like ''Hey, all of them are powerful swordsmen, that's why the are the 10 swords''.
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Stop talking about the swordsmen that use axes or whatever. Or I, the great swordsman, will shoot all of you with my gun.
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Forget the gun just beat him to death with your toilet paper stick.
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@ leo.mysterio I can watch your signature on loop all day and not get bored of it.
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The paper stick explodes.
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Sword-chucks are both sword and nunchaku.
I forgot about those. I just couldn't bring myself to use an example of a Hammer Bros using a chainsaw.
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@Cyan:
Forget the gun just beat him to death with your toilet paper stick.
Can it be the Naruto's new volume? It has more shit, but I think that it can be used.
@ leo.mysterio I can watch your signature on loop all day and not get bored of it.
So can I.
I hope I get one vote at least for it in the Awards. I didn't had the time to vote, unfortunetaly between a relative's death and obligations I didn't had the time.
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Where's Karin in all of this? Locked away in Konoha or will they put her special sensor abilities to use in this war? If they trust her that is. If you forgot who Karin is she's the red headed Sakura on Team Taka.
Everything's Eventual…
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@Cyan:
Practicality - The Failure of Many a Ninja
You now got me thinking about exploding tags.. replacing all toilet paper in all the ninja world. It's factible, konan created 600 BILLION (that's japanesse billions 12 zeros, what you punny americans would call a trillion) in such short notice.
What happens when you swipe an exploding tag?
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(that's japanesse billions 12 zeros, what you punny americans would call a trillion)
Puns are the highest form of art.
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Where's Karin in all of this? Locked away in Konoha or will they put her special sensor abilities to use in this war? If they trust her that is. If you forgot who Karin is she's the red headed Sakura on Team Taka.
No shes naruto worlds one and only "Human Elixir"
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The 10 Swords of Ruronin Kenshin weren't
One used a spear, one a schyte and a wrecking ball, Iwango and Anji didn't even use weapons (except Anji's dumb knife), 3 were just support, and the flying one's main weapon were the bombs.
In the end just Shishio, Non-Emo boy, broom head and the giant used swords.
Are we supposed to care about anything Rurouni Kenshin did?
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But I agree, who cares, when the real problem is that the swordsmen are a rushed out terrible climax on a long promised concept that are predicatebly personality devoid and essentially Bleach like in design.
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So I haven't read Naruto in what..2 years? Has it gotten better yet or is it still as craptastic and anticlimatic as it was during the Itachi fight?
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Wow. Okay I know this quote is a few pages old and all, but I was just checking in and saw this:
the shame they just put sasuke through I mean they had way to many gay vibes in these scene and the kiss
Has Sasuke finally come out of the closet or something?
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The 10 Swords of Ruronin Kenshin weren't
One used a spear, one a schyte and a wrecking ball, Iwango and Anji didn't even use weapons (except Anji's dumb knife), 3 were just support, and the flying one's main weapon were the bombs.
In the end just Shishio, Non-Emo boy, broom head and the giant used swords.
Uhhh they were called the Ten Swords because they were the swords. Figuratively, they were Shishio's "weapons". They weren't called the Ten Swordsmen.
And it doesn't matter anyways.
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So I haven't read Naruto in what..2 years? Has it gotten better yet or is it still as craptastic and anticlimatic as it was during the Itachi fight?
Well lets say this: Turtle penis
That alone should describe its current state.
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Well lets say this: Turtle penis
That alone should describe its current state.Wait, there's turtle penis now, too?
Wasn't armadillo penis enough???
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Oh, that's what it was?
But really armadillo penis? My memory of Naruto is shakey because its become mostly unmemorable.Its worse enough that the author is retreading what he did with Haku several volumes back, when the series was still good.
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So I haven't read Naruto in what..2 years? Has it gotten better yet or is it still as craptastic and anticlimatic as it was during the Itachi fight?
Several of the arcs negated their own purpose; character development has either gone full-circle, nowhere, or off the slippery slope; there's a fairly random zombie apocalypse, and the Uchihas have been given even more powers out of nowhere. Also, Naruto's been retconned into being a child of destiny, a direct descendant of the First Hokage, and related to the Uchiha clan. In addition, armadillo penis.
On the other hand, the Raikage was introduced (see here for more information: http://dl01.mangashare.com/manga/Naruto/463/015.jpg/; basically a giant electrical ninja pro-wrestler who breaks through walls every time he leaves a room and gives Sasuke a well-deserved ass-kicking), and Gai got a decent fight, which is probably the closest we're ever going to get to Lee winning anything. It's up to you to decide which is better.
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@JERK:
But I agree, who cares, when the real problem is that the swordsmen are a rushed out terrible climax on a long promised concept that are predicatebly personality devoid and essentially Bleach like in design.
This, they are focusing on the lesser issue, having way more disruptive and bad things to complain.
Like a guy named Mangetsu dripping inside other people to attack.
Or the fact that they are here because kishimoto made a checklist of "things that I created back then and now I want to finish as soon as possible".
I still liked the swords conceptualy, except the needle, but it has a fun effect.
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So I watched the latest Adventure Time on CN tonight and I noticed…
they were far more ninja-like than Naruto.
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I think the biggest problem in making an anime about ninjas is the realization that real life ninjas are guys who were too poor or sucked too bad to be a samurai.
Kishimoto realizing this, made nearly every samurai in his universe nigh useless.
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Where's Karin in all of this? Locked away in Konoha or will they put her special sensor abilities to use in this war? If they trust her that is. If you forgot who Karin is she's the red headed Sakura on Team Taka.
Who really cares about her?
I think the biggest problem in making an anime about ninjas is the realization that real life ninjas are guys who were too poor or sucked too bad to be a samurai.
Kishimoto realizing this, made nearly every samurai in his universe nigh useless.
But, they do have Lightsabers, which is a plus.
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Eh..so the whole fight-destiny-theme was casually thrown out of the window? It's kind of sad because it was one of the more promising aspects of the manga with Naruto being such an underdog. I always thought he and Sasuke had an interesting parallel going on. Sasuke who was destined to become a powerful and respected shinobi but fails in the end due to his personal agenda and Naruto who despite all odds will finally achieve acknowledgement by the village.
Speaking of the village now their initial hatred for him makes even less sense. The Uzumaki-clan is known as a prestigious clan full of excellent ninjas not to mention the ties the clan has with the leaf. You'd think the villagers would show a little more respect to an Uzumaki offspring and not spit on him. You can see he pulled it out of his ass when you look at Kishi's poor attempt to resolve the villagers resentment towards Naruto during the Pein arc. They practically made him the messiah out of nowhere when they shouldn't even have a proper grasp on Naruto's true abilities. There was no indication for them to believe that he could be stronger than the rest of the village combined. It's like Kishi has been taking writing lessons from Kubo.
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@Badass:
Wow. Okay I know this quote is a few pages old and all, but I was just checking in and saw this:
Has Sasuke finally come out of the closet or something?
i hate sounding like a sasuke fan boy. But what type of question is that??? of course not!
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Sasuke's still in the closet. Just very, very deep in the closet.
Hell, the eventual sin-cleansing/redemption/load of bullshit ceremony may very well involve Naruto descending into the wardrobe to bring Sasuke out of Narnia.
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Eh..so the whole fight-destiny-theme was casually thrown out of the window? It's kind of sad because it was one of the more promising aspects of the manga with Naruto being such an underdog. I always thought he and Sasuke had an interesting parallel going on. Sasuke who was destined to become a powerful and respected shinobi but fails in the end due to his personal agenda and Naruto who despite all odds will finally achieve acknowledgement by the village.
Speaking of the village now their initial hatred for him makes even less sense. The Uzumaki-clan is known as a prestigious clan full of excellent ninjas not to mention the ties the clan has with the leaf. You'd think the villagers would show a little more respect to an Uzumaki offspring and not spit on him. You can see he pulled it out of his ass when you look at Kishi's poor attempt to resolve the villagers resentment towards Naruto during the Pein arc. They practically made him the messiah out of nowhere when they shouldn't even have a proper grasp on Naruto's true abilities. There was no indication for them to believe that he could be stronger than the rest of the village combined. It's like Kishi has been taking writing lessons from Kubo.
The whole "Destiny is overrated/Hark Work rules" idea got brutally murdered with a chainsaw when A. Naruto was revealed to be the direct son of the on the Hokages and also related to two others, who they and his mother's family both come from the original Ninja Jesus and B. when Rock Lee, the epitome of Hard Work does nothing but job.
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@S.C.:
The whole "Destiny is overrated/Hark Work rules" idea got brutally murdered with a chainsaw when A. Naruto was revealed to be the direct son of the on the Hokages and also related to two others, who they and his mother's family both come from the original Ninja Jesus and B. when Rock Lee, the epitome of Hard Work does nothing but job.
Well, it was absolutely obvious that Naruto is Minato's son, I mean they look almost identical.
But I definately agree with the rest.
The "Hard work can beat destiny" theme got raped.
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Well, it was absolutely obvious that Naruto is Minato's son, I mean they look almost identical.
Doesn't mean much in stylized manga. Just means the symbolism of "he reminds me strongly of this person" is there.
I mean, Sakura and Juugo are identical twins down to the haircut, but they aren't related.
But yeah. Its kind of bad that they treat Naruto like shit when not only was his dad hokage, but also apparently being a tailed host is actually a highly honored revered position that has been going on for generations everywhere… as opposed to a desperation emergency one time tactic.
It only made sense when Naruto happened to be the only baby just born at the time, and thus the only suitable canidate. As opposed to some supreme master plan involving multiple keys his dad had planned out all along involving sealing the soul of his mother or something. Once his parents were revealed to be those things, it totally destroyed all the early speeches and themes.
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CHECK OUT THIS LACK OF ORIGINALITY
"What are you talking about? I am me!Nobody else!" —Roxas
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and this lol…
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Old news.
And action scene tracing is an ancient art that boils down to time and budget. Even Disney does that all the time.
That sort of thing is perfectly excusable and fine, its a limitation of the medium and its going to happen when you have deadlines to meet. (I'd show a side by side of the Rescuers Down Under ripping Nausicaa, but I can't find a good example of it.)This however…
There's no excuse for that.
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So I watched the latest Adventure Time on CN tonight and I noticed…
they were far more ninja-like than Naruto.
Agreed.
Though:
http://frederatorblogs.com/adventure_time/2011/01/17/the-chamber-of-frozen-blades-reminder/And the image on the linked page is technically on topic if one notes the lower corners.
Now back to my standard lurking.
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@RobbyBevard:
Doesn't mean much in stylized manga. Just means the symbolism of "he reminds me strongly of this person" is there.
I mean, Sakura and Juugo are identical twins down to the haircut, but they aren't related.
But yeah. Its kind of bad that they treat Naruto like shit when not only was his dad hokage, but also apparently being a tailed host is actually a highly honored revered position that has been going on for generations everywhere… as opposed to a desperation emergency one time tactic.
It only made sense when Naruto happened to be the only baby just born at the time, and thus the only suitable canidate. As opposed to some supreme master plan involving multiple keys his dad had planned out all along involving sealing the soul of his mother or something. Once his parents were revealed to be those things, it totally destroyed all the early speeches and themes.
SAKURA AND JUGGO??
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You sure?
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"What are you talking about? I am me!Nobody else!" —Roxas
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Whatever the fuck the sword guy that turns to water on Sasuke's team is named. I never bothered learning the names of Sasuke's teammates.
Suigetsu.
That guy.
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I'd say the whole screw destiny thing was raped in the Pein arc more than anything when Naruto is LITERALLY a DESTINED child who was prophesized to save the world
