You hate Robin's looks? You have rather strange tastes.
She lost her bangs :((( I love bangs bro
You hate Robin's looks? You have rather strange tastes.
She lost her bangs :((( I love bangs bro
Robin is fail - Personality and creativity with devil fruit
What is wrong with her personality?
What is wrong with her personality?
She is boring, going on about how grizzly the death of a person will be is not funny and she doesn't bring anything to the crew.
she seems tacked on, even franky and brooke fit in with the rest of the crew better than her
She is boring, going on about how grizzly the death of a person will be is not funny and she doesn't bring anything to the crew.
she seems tacked on, even franky and brooke fit in with the rest of the crew better than her
Humor is subjective. I find Robin dark humor to be the funniest out of all of them for example.
However, saying she brings nothing to the crew is blatant ignorancy. Explain your hate for her in a better way. Making yourself look like you haven't been paying attention to the story and how the characters fit in it only hurts your case.
Humor is subjective. I find Robin dark humor to be the funniest out of all of them for example.
However, saying she brings nothing to the crew is blatant ignorancy. Explain your hate for her in a better way. Making yourself look like you haven't been paying attention to the story and how the characters fit in it only hurts your case.
Enlighten me then?
Enlighten me then?
This isn't hard you know. Just take out the things that wouldn't have been possible without Robin's character.
The tidbits made on how to get to Skypeia
The discovery of Montblanc Cricket
The entire Water 7 and Enies Lobby story arc and what resulted from it
Ohara, the Void History, it's undoubtedly important focus on what's to come for the story ahead and how none of the other strawhats have any ambition or ability to decipher or make any good of what it means.
I feel like a kindergarden teacher. I hope your reply is extremely intelligent.
This isn't hard you know. Just take out the things that wouldn't have been possible without Robin's character.
The tidbits made on how to get to Skypeia
The discovery of Montblanc Cricket
The entire Water 7 and Enies Lobby story arc and what resulted from it
Ohara, the Void History, it's undoubtedly important focus on what's to come for the story ahead and how none of the other strawhats have any ambition or ability to decipher or make any good of what it means.I feel like a kindergarden teacher. I hope your reply is extremely intelligent.
Hurrah, a walking history book. Read the post what has she brought to the crew, not what is she going to do? Also get your head out your ass
Hurrah, a walking history book. Read the post what has she brought to the crew, not what is she going to do? Also get your head out your ass
Well, I feel that Luffy relies on her a lot to explanations of things he doesn't know about or doesn't understand (the rest of the crew tens to just call him an idiot). She is also a link between the monster trio and the weakling trio, in that she is level headed but also enjoys adventure. But then again maybe I'm just seeing what I want to be there because I really like her character and laugh hysterically at her humor.
To each their own. I just don't like her character, being there just to provide background knowledge on ______ is meh, and her humour is pretty lame in my opinion. If Oda made one of the other crew members learn to read phonoglyphs Robin wouldn't be missed
I would miss her :sad::unsure::cwy:.
Eh, it would be better if she was also a doctor, chopper just seems too much of a marketing tool. I hate Sanji too, but he at least pulls his weight by being ridiculously strong and having cool moments.
Eh, it would be better if she was also a doctor, chopper just seems too much of a marketing tool. I hate Sanji too, but he at least pulls his weight by being ridiculously strong and having cool moments.
Sanji's also clever, like when he was Mr. Prince and during EL and a few other times, he thinks of things none of the other crew think of.
Chopper is kind of a marketing tool but more by accident than anything else.
I'm satisfied with everything. I can't find a single flaw in one piece. Now how odd is that?
OP is perfect in every sense of the word.
With any group, balance is essential. I think Robin provides that stoicism necessary to allow Chopper, Franky, Brook, Nami and Usoop to be nuts. If the entire crew were constantly funny with trademark reactions - it would diminish the whole. Robin is the straight man as such and her expertise also helps facilitate this. If you got rid of Robin you would tip the scales too far towards constant silliness. Not the worst thing in the world, but nice to have some dry humour, some cutting remarks at the expense of the rest etc.
I'm satisfied with everything. I can't find a single flaw in one piece. Now how odd is that?
OP is perfect in every sense of the word.
You dumb son.
Disclaimer : This is just an opinion and isn't a fact in any ways.
I don't like Brook. He's just a weaker Zoro imo.
This topic hurts my brain sometimes.
Disclaimer : This is just an opinion and isn't a fact in any ways.
I don't like Brook. He's just a weaker Zoro imo.
I thought that too for a while - but then when you think about it - Zoro is the big hitter he fights the other big Swordsmen they fight. He will be busy but then there are numerous other swordsmen out there and Brook is perfectly able to handle mass fodder.
He is by no means weak in swordfighting but he wont be the greatest swordsmen like Zoro aims to be. While other members of the crew can also handle fodder even when armed with swords I like Brooks Bard like buffing/debuffing potential.
I thought that too for a while - but then when you think about it - Zoro is the big hitter he fights the other big Swordsmen they fight. He will be busy but then there are numerous other swordsmen out there and Brook is perfectly able to handle mass fodder.
He is by no means weak in swordfighting but he wont be the greatest swordsmen like Zoro aims to be. While other members of the crew can also handle fodder even when armed with swords I like Brooks Bard like buffing/debuffing potential.
Idiots who hate Brooke incapable of thinking of characters past combat, news at 11.
Ugh OP is all about fighting, exchanging lethal blows guyz.-A bunch of goddamned fools.
I would argue it is more about imagination and adventure personally
@JERK:
Idiots who hate Brooke incapable of thinking of characters past combat, news at 11.
Well not all - what if someone has a passionate dislike of the Anthrimorphic representation of Death. I think hating on Brook's appearence alone may be acceptable in that case
But yeah this crew seems to be full of heavy hitters - just their specialisation differs crew to crew. Seems some people forget that between battles.
With any group, balance is essential. I think Robin provides that stoicism necessary to allow Chopper, Franky, Brook, Nami and Usoop to be nuts. If the entire crew were constantly funny with trademark reactions - it would diminish the whole. Robin is the straight man as such and her expertise also helps facilitate this. If you got rid of Robin you would tip the scales too far towards constant silliness. Not the worst thing in the world, but nice to have some dry humour, some cutting remarks at the expense of the rest etc.
I'm not a Robin hater. She has her moments of interest (like when she was with the Rev Army), but overall I think she's an empty character. You pretty much pointed out the problem with Robin - that she is a tool, a facilitator. She has no personality; she has a role. She's just there to balance shit out; to be the one sane one in the whole crew. Her purpose is straight-forward and empty.
On the other hand, one could argue that she just doesn't have a SHINING GREGARIOUS personality, and so gets lost in the evaluation of things. Lots of introverted girls are like that, but the thing is with these real-life girls is that you actually get to know them. All we 'got to know' is her past history; that she's hell-bent on discovering the Blank History…. aaaand that she's terrified at the Buster Call, like uselessly shivering type terrified. My beef with her is that she's always like "Oh, you mean you didn't know that?" She frequently holds back on info that may or may not be of interest, and really there is no need to do that. Speak you mind more dammit! It's such an annoying character device. I get that she's used to be a spy withholding information, but she's home now, with the only people she'll ever trust..... so SHOW IT
Might be too soon. After a lifetime of betrayal I cna imagine one would be heavily inclined to the personlity trait of stoicism. The fact she does that highlights her past, instant gratification or near instant would ruin her and turn her into another Nami.
I can agree that perhaps we can't get to know her as we would an introverted person in the real world, but I don't find that. Still this is just me. Another factor is that with the increasing number of crew members, it makes her personlity type more difficult to showcase. Tbh I am not sure how one would best deal with focusing on Robin more. I felt the Ohara incident was well handled and her involvement since has shown a very gradual warming to the crew, but transforming her into someone who would agree to the docking emperor robot thingy would be a huge mistake lol! I am content to agree to disagree as I really wouldn't change her and think her role as balance and being serious is vital.
Correct me if I am wrong - the crews formation on Sunny to going underwater has only happened in approx real time of what a couple of hours?
Hell the first few chapters of them sinking was full of exposition on how things all worked underwater. Hate on Robin now if you want to - but 1 thing I have learnt is people can sometimes be a little too fickle for their own good. Me I am happy to wait and see her when her time to shine comes right now it's just seems they're spending more time tryin to get safe then to have a meeting and discuss indevidual growth.
Well not all - what if someone has a passionate dislike of the Anthrimorphic representation of Death. I think hating on Brook's appearence alone may be acceptable in that case
But yeah this crew seems to be full of heavy hitters - just their specialisation differs crew to crew. Seems some people forget that between battles.
What kind of weirdo hates walking skeletons. How do you object to walking skeletons.
"Oh fuck, a walking skeleton, I hate that look, of a skeleton I mean."
Brooke is one of those character designs you don't get to hate, because it's fucking random and dumb to do so.
@JERK:
What kind of weirdo hates walking skeletons. How do you object to walking skeletons.
"Oh fuck, a walking skeleton, I hate that look, of a skeleton I mean."
Brooke is one of those character designs you don't get to hate, because it's fucking random and dumb to do so.
You won't get me arguing that point - DEATH from Discworld is one of my favourite characters - and while Brooke doesn't have his voice or personality he is charismatic - and it is a good display of how to show expression with essentially only a skull.
(My previous statement was based on making a parralel between the look of Death and Brooke and someone with a fear of Death personifying it onto Brookes appearence and hating him for reminding him of Death - the joke was probably pretty fail)
Glad to see I'm not the only one with a lack of enthusiasm for Robin. Being bookish and sensible aren't bad character traits, but when you browse through the cover pages and spreads, a veritable showcase for Odas imagination and fun characters, Robin will always be either
a) Reading
b) Posing
c) Doing something anyone could do, like…shopping.
Whereas the others are boxing, using alligators for weight training, or battling a giant hippo with a crown.
Anyway, now that the anime has reached it, my intense dislike for Crocodiles new status as "Redeemed Villain" has flared up again. Sir Crocodile, evil asshole extraordinare, protecting his underling for fucks sake. He better be drying up innocent villages for sport by his next appearance.
Crocodile was never plain evil, he was a standard mafia type, greedy and out to get his. Him standing by Mr. 1 isn't out of character or strange even considering their obvious continued affiliation. They are associates.
Croc hasn't shown any kind of shit for Mr. 3 or 2 has he?
Nor has he been "redeemed", you're talking like he's Hatchied out. Which hasn't happened at all.
You're under a completely fantastical and nonexistant impression of the character if you think random cruelty and acts of evil was ever in any way part of what he did. You either haven't read Alabasta in a long time or were constantly projecting some weird fan-fiction on him of what he was.
He's not The Joker for christ sakes, nowhere near.
Speaking of Hatchan, Nami saying that he was ''harmless'' made me facepalm. Uh, you do remember that he was the one who spilled the beans on Bellemere, and was guffawing right along with all the other Fishmen while Arlong beat and killed her, right? I don't have anything against him trying to be a better person and acknowledging that what he and the Arlong Pirates did to her was awful, but that line just made me cringe.
Oh, and Crocodile. It's bullshit that none of the Alabastians apparently had anything to say about Luffy freeing the guy who nearly destroyed their country. Way to sweep that one under the rug.
Wasn't Hatchan innocent in nature? By fishman standards I mean? The other guys that were working under Arlong outright hated humans. Hatchan was just following orders and trying his best to fit in. While his comrades still respected him, he was still the weakest link without much ambition when it came to conquest. Atleast that's my impression.
@JERK:
You're under a completely fantastical and nonexistant impression of the character if you think random cruelty and acts of evil was ever in any way part of what he did.
He was acting like a fucking bastard towards Vivi and even the Tsumegeri. I wouldn't say he is some kind of Joker, but everytime he did something evil, he was laughing and seemed to take a lot of pleasure.
He's been redeemed in that he saved Luffy from being killed by Akainu. The only reason Croc came to the war was to exact revenge on Whitebeard, and suddenly he's risking his neck to save Luffy after WB was dead and he just should've just set off.
And Him being present at the war hinges on the monumentally stupid decision to get send to Impel Down with no plan in mind whatsoever. But that's a totally different issue.
And Croc was pretty damn evil. After not even giving a suicide squad the dignity of a last fight and mocking their deaths, he spends chapter 198 utterly crushing Vivis ideals before letting her fall to her death while laughing diabolically.
Or how about leaving Luffy for dead twice, and again spitting all over his near paralyzed foes struggles in chapter 207.
As for Mr 1, how is he any more of an associate than Mr fed-to-bananadiles-3, the billions or 7 pair that would've died in the explosion, or Robin whom he even told that he never trusted anyone? Croc hadn't shown any kindness for Mr 2 because there never was a reason to, and he even complimented mr 3 on holding off Magellan.
And when "out to get his" involves killing millions, you're ruthless. When you laugh at their deaths, crush peoples beliefs for sport and spam sandstorms on Yuba for fun then you're pretty damn evil.
Alabasta Croc showed no redeeming qualities whatsoever, and would've killed Mr 1 to further his own agenda in a heartbeat.
Now he's in a colour spread with Ivankov and Buggy.
You can say that it was a few isolated acts of cruelty, but that could be said for everyone. Like, "Spandam was a guy trying to bring justice to the world, doing a few nasty things here, but not an evil character".
He was acting like a fucking bastard towards Vivi and even the Tsumegeri. I wouldn't say he is some kind of Joker, but everytime he did something evil, he was laughing and seemed to take a lot of pleasure.
Robin did the same, she mocked Kohza when he had his crushing realization of starting a civil war for no reason. It makes him a dick, not EVUL INCARNATEE!!!!
And guess what, he is still a dick. And no it wasn't "every time", he was showing constant bemused apathy at stuff, he's still done that minus the humor.
@Daz:
He's been redeemed in that he saved Luffy from being killed by Akainu.
No, he hasn't.
You seem to be under the impression that Croc has undergone some sort of change of conscious and is now preaching the gospel or some shit.
He's grinning and planning his next ambitious something or other, wherin he will no doubt trample over dreams and lives to get what he wants.
One act of good motivated more by his own involvement in a huge flow of anger and resentment against the Government.
Even if you deny that aspect to it, and see it as one good pure act, it reverses nothing, shows no regreat, no change of heart.
The only reason Croc came to the war was to exact revenge on Whitebeard, and suddenly he's risking his neck to save Luffy after WB was dead and he just should've just set off.
Because clearly Croc is a robot programmed to do evil and is not capable of getting emotionally swept up in one of the most major conflicts on earth and in history. The entire Marine force was getting out of control and rampaging, and you find issue with Croc also being caught in the torrent of confusion and chaos. He's a human being too, you guys absolutely want your Joker don't you.
And Him being present at the war hinges on the monumentally stupid decision to get send to Impel Down with no plan in mind whatsoever. But that's a totally different issue.
Me and Vanessa were preaching against this bullshit nonstop a year ago or so, I guess you missed out.
Croc was resigned to his fate. It was as obvious as anything. He was done at that moment. Ambitions crushed and nothing new on his plate. It fit beautifully with his character being a former dreamer cracked by bitter failure into a cynical exploiter.
The fact that he's now apparently feeling ambitious again is if anything the oddity, though it remains to be seen exactly what's changed his mind, maybe the whole new generation vibe of a Whitebeardless world.
And Croc was pretty damn evil. After not even giving a suicide squad the dignity of a last fight and mocking their deaths,
All within battle with warriors, correct me if I'm wrong but nothing involving that is really evil so much as dickish.
Evil is torturing children and innocent non-combatants.
he spends chapter 198 utterly crushing Vivis ideals before letting her fall to her death while laughing diabolically.
Same here, mocking opponents. Not sociopathic evil.
Or how about leaving Luffy for dead twice, and again spitting all over his near paralyzed foes struggles in chapter 207.
How dare Croc try and kill a complete enemy!
As for Mr 1, how is he any more of an associate than Mr fed-to-bananadiles-3,
Because Mr. 1 is reliable and has stood by Crocodile. Mr. 3 was a cowardly Steve Buscimi ratty type and still is.
That's pretty normal Mafia shit, a paisano who stood by you when in the pen.
Mr. 3 is a Paulie, Mr. 1 is a Clemenza.
You need, you all need, to stop thinking of Croc as a psycho and as a mob boss. Because he's a mob boss.
the billions or 7 pair that would've died in the explosion,
The 7 Pair?? loll, what are you even saying anymore? They were launching the bomb, fully aware of what was going on. The sporadic billions in the battle were never said to be unaware of the bomb and as we saw had already left combat and gone Vivi hunting, probably planning on running off after completing that task.
or Robin whom he even told that he never trusted anyone?
Of course a Mafia type doesn't trust. It doesn't exclude them of emotional connection or degrees of trust based around loyalty and past performance.
Do you watch any mob films?
Croc hadn't shown any kindness for Mr 2 because there never was a reason to, and he even complimented mr 3 on holding off Magellan.
That was an impressive moment that was out of Mr. 3's character (he even said as much himself). Why is it such a big deal to remark on it?
Mr. 2 was completely independent of Crocodile by then, as would any of the rest of Baroque Works be, Croc and him have no connection anymore.
And when "out to get his" involves killing millions, you're ruthless.
Quick reminder, when did Croc kill millions? And how many of the actual number that you pumped full of steroids were not soldiers?
When you laugh at their deaths, crush peoples beliefs for sport and spam sandstorms on Yuba for fun then you're pretty damn evil.
Yuba had a purpose, so did all of this. He was pulling a coup.
Actually a better question is do you think actual people who pull bloody coups don't have emotional resonance with anything? Because real life wouldn't stand up to your pretty stupid critique of plausible behavior.
Alabasta Croc showed no redeeming qualities whatsoever, and would've killed Mr 1 to further his own agenda in a heartbeat.
Crocodile isn't riding a wave of ego and success. He's been dragged through the gutter and made something of a punchline, he's shown as much apathy as before, but minus the gleeful aspect. He's one combatant in a major battle, he can't afford to strut around like a big dick and throw away anything he doesn't like. You're looking at humbled Crocodile, and best of all for you? Once he's back on top of something, as he's clearly planning on, you'll probably see the old Croc again.
Now he's in a colour spread with Ivankov and Buggy.
Oh for godsakes, get over it.
You're verging on scorned fanboy when you make complaints as irrational as this.
You can say that it was a few isolated acts of cruelty, but that could be said for everyone. Like, "Spandam was a guy trying to bring justice to the world, doing a few nasty things here, but not an evil character".
Spandam is a complete sleaze with no dignity or pride. Croc had those things, he wasn't acting out of pure wormy panic, but desire.
He was acting like a fucking bastard towards Vivi and even the Tsumegeri. I wouldn't say he is some kind of Joker, but everytime he did something evil, he was laughing and seemed to take a lot of pleasure.
Imagine Crocodile is a more extreme Jerk Disease; while Vivi and other victims are anime-only watchers and Perona supporters.
Jerk Disease for Arlong Park Troll of the Year 2010!!
While I'd agree with Daz about Croc being an evil son of a bitch. I don't exactly dislike what he did during the war. I don't really see his acts of "compassion" as evidence that "oh he's really not so bad." To me it's more that even he couldn't stand by the injustice and over-bearing oppressiveness of the Government. I see in Croc a hatred for authority, and above all he is a Pirate who wants power. No doubt he's a bad motherfucker, and I'm sure he wanted to exact his revenge on WB, but everybody knows WB is a symbol of the Pirates. Defeating WB is an act for power, or rather gaining power, but nothing is worse than letting the Gov take WB's head. Croc is smart enough to know this. He's definitely one of my fav characters.
@Sea:
Imagine Crocodile is a more extreme Jerk Disease; while Vivi and other victims are anime-only watchers and Perona supporters.
So what you're saying is, Vivi deserved it?
…I can dig it.
Jerk Disease for Arlong Park Troll of the Year 2010!!
While I'd agree with Daz about Croc being an evil son of a bitch. I don't exactly dislike what he did during the war. I don't really see his acts of "compassion" as evidence that "oh he's really not so bad." To me it's more that even he couldn't stand by the injustice and over-bearing oppressiveness of the Government. I see in Croc a hatred for authority, and above all he is a Pirate who wants power. No doubt he's a bad motherfucker, and I'm sure he wanted to exact his revenge on WB, but everybody knows WB is a symbol of the Pirates. Defeating WB is an act for power, or rather gaining power, but nothing is worse than letting the Gov take WB's head. Croc is smart enough to know this. He's definitely one of my fav characters.
Does anyone seriously even know what trolling means anymore? I can't recall a single time Zephos has ever trolled.
That aside, if Crocodile as evil of a bastard as you're making him out to be, then why did he help out Luffy and Whitebeard's crew after Whitebeard kicked the bucket?
@Cyan:
So what you're saying is, Vivi deserved it?
…I can dig it.
In Crocodile's eyes, Vivi was…a dumb, naive, bland, boring, stubborn, unfunny bad poster who had different opinion with him, strongly believed in her theory and ideal, and lectured about being nice with each other in the Internet, and was just plain wrong. She walked into the nakama thread to tell people to stop fighting.
So Crocodile made fun of her, insulted her, and traumatized her.
Does anyone seriously even know what trolling means anymore? I can't recall a single time Zephos has ever trolled.
That aside, if Crocodile as evil of a bastard as you're making him out to be, then why did he help out Luffy and Whitebeard's crew after Whitebeard kicked the bucket?
Trolling has evolved, though JD is not exactly trolling in his last post. When I typed that I hadn't seen his reply yet. However, I assure you he's quite capable, and most worthy of the nomination.
As for your question re: Croc. Read JD's long post
Trolling has evolved, though JD is not exactly trolling in his last post. When I typed that I hadn't seen his reply yet. However, I assure you he's quite capable, and most worthy of the nomination.
As for your question re: Croc. Read JD's long post
Look at Almost Legendary if you want a troll
Neither of them is troll you silly boys.
AlmostLegendary is just plain stupid.
Jerk Disease is just angry; highly pugilistic in the argument sport; and remarkably impatient with posters that ain't bright.
Oh, and even Greg thinks he is just trolling for trolling's sake, so I can see why some people think the same.
To each their own. I just don't like her character, being there just to provide background knowledge on ______ is meh, and her humour is pretty lame in my opinion. If Oda made one of the other crew members learn to read phonoglyphs Robin wouldn't be missed
The fact is that he won't because she's the character that can read the poneglyphs. Same thing as saying if he made another member instead of Sanji who could cook like him, he wouldn't be missed. Dwelling on "what if's" simply don't belong in an argument against what the character brings to the table.
It's okay to have an opinion. I have no problem with that. It's an entirely different matter when things start being stated like facts.
I also don't believe that there was someone insane enough to suggest that she doesn't have a personality (Not you). It may not be one that's particularly interesting to some people or easy to identify but saying there's no personality there (whether it be a good one or bad one) is being ignorant too.
To JD, I must say we have slightly different definitions of evil. For one thing I usually take intent into account not just actions, although those are important too. Crocodile started a war, and, in case you haven't heard, wars are kind of bad things, lots of pain and death and such. Then after the war started he planned on killing everyone involved. That, in my book, is evil.
Crocodile wasn't seen doing anything particularly evil onscreen but his intentions were quite plainly shown throughout that whole arc to be evil. To some jaded folks that might not have the same emotional impact as actually seeing him kill and torture people but, to my innocent self, it seems pretty horrible.
He had reasons for all he did, and don't get me wrong, I love his character, but just because he was very logical about why he wanted to kill a thousand or so people, doesn't make that less evil.
I don't think he is arguing that point.
What he is saying is Croc is not psychopathically evil like the Joker that some people are making him out to be.
He is speaking accurately about the Mob Boss mentality - they have people under them they are prepared to lose and people they do not want to lose but have to be prepared to kill if betrayed.
Mob bosses are always on the look out for the person looking to fill dead mans shoes and so they have to be very firm.
And above all they have a plan - Croc's plan was escaping - Luffy was escaping - Help Luffy Escape.
No boats - Luffy gets a boat - Follow Luffy on boat.
Luffy takes crew to War - WB unable to be attacked - Stuck in war - Goverment wants to capture him - Choose to fight them.
War called off - WB dead - Luffy gone - Escape with Mr 1
Pretty logical - Joker would probably have been released and just killed Luffy there and then. Or tried to.
Ahh, after going over it again I suppose you are right. He did say "Crocodile was never plain evil"
It was a combination of him calling Croc a dick rather than evil incarnate, and the general opinion about evil acts onscreen being more important than evil acts off screen that led to think he was saying Croc wasn't particularly evil.
Ahh, after going over it again I suppose you are right. He did say "Crocodile was never plain evil"
It was a combination of him calling Croc a dick rather than evil incarnate, and the general opinion about evil acts onscreen being more important than evil acts off screen that led to think he was saying Croc wasn't particularly evil.
Afterall evil is only what the victors get to call the losers.
The WG can call the Pirates evil and wrong because the WG remained in charge but had they won and set up their own government then those who oppose them became the evil ones.
Croc made the King of Alabasta out to be the bad guy and him to be the saviour of them all even when planning a major civil war/coup over power.
But it is easy in here to skim things and miss the point - I've done it a ton of times.
Does anyone seriously even know what trolling means anymore? I can't recall a single time Zephos has ever trolled.
That aside, if Crocodile as evil of a bastard as you're making him out to be, then why did he help out Luffy and Whitebeard's crew after Whitebeard kicked the bucket?
Already explained it. To not let WG get it's way. It was fighting a loosing battle at that moment though.